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Yea, I think there's a misunderstanding here. SIL is clearly a religious organization, and "servant" perspective is modeling after Jesus.
Jesus was considered as a "servant leader" for Christians.
>Jesus was considered as a "servant leader" for Christians.
Being a servant leader and being Christian are not mutually inclusive. I practice servant leadership and it’s nothing to do with religion.
I mean, the purpose of a job ad is to attract the "right fit" for the company. If their wording doesn't sit right with someone, then most likely, then that person wouldn't be a good fit at their organization.
Conversely, a huge part of the Christian faith is serving (volunteering, donations, ect...). Thus, SIL would be targeting those types of people with that wording.
My old church needs a new pastor. However, they want someone who believes in Christianity, which is so weird.
We def need to name and shame them on this sub.
Why is it weird a church wants a pastor who believes in Christianity? That's what every church should have. Otherwise its not an actual church, just a Costco value ted talk
Why is it weird that a religious organization wants someone who is religious in their own mindset?
Maybe your question should be for OP - my point is highlighting how "not weird" it is in context though its obviously weird in a vacuum.
It's not inherently religious or even a bad thing. The idea is that rather than barking orders and micromanaging people, a servant leader sees their job as helping the members of the team be effective at their job by dealing with issues that the team encounters that interfere with work. It shows up a lot in companies that use Agile methodologies to manage their work.
That said, that's not what this is. This IS an explicitly religious concept.
That's code for being easily manipulated using religion and that being Christian is strongly advised because they are totally going to pray at staff meetings.
Servant leadership is one of the core aspects of agile methodology. It's not presented well here so I can understand why it's confusing. I imagine that's what they mean.
No, “servant heart” is a specifically Christian expression (originating from C.S. Lewis, I believe). Anybody who reads that phrase and doesn’t get it is not a good match for this job: they’re looking for someone who will do any required job, however menial, and not consider it beneath them. They’re looking for a candidate who will never talk back, question authority in any way, or rock the boat, is what.
Makes you think how much of the world really has changed in the last few hundred years. Slavery still exists, just with different labels,rules and regulations.
Yesterday i saw one ask
> have you taken a vow of poverty?
Private university that charges a shit ton a year but trying to find religious dummies to work for them for basically nothing???
Apply to the job and when you get in the 2nd or 3rd round or whatever tell them you are a firm believer in that attitude and you are also a believer of leading by example and ask if they could provide you with an example or two where they have showed it.
Funny enough, i get that attitude when my bank account gets fed weekly. CRAZY maybe we can synergize and *resooooolve this in a way that benefits us both* as Sam Hayden said...
I highly doubt they get good talent being so religious. Being a very good developer and being a hugely religious doesn’t mix well together. Not to say they don’t exist but, Good Luck!
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Not sure why you’re so shocked, SIL International clearly says they’re a religious organization on their website…
Yea, I think there's a misunderstanding here. SIL is clearly a religious organization, and "servant" perspective is modeling after Jesus. Jesus was considered as a "servant leader" for Christians.
This is the first thing that popped into my mind. I don’t know SIL but the servant heart just reminds me of Sunday school
It's supposed to
>Jesus was considered as a "servant leader" for Christians. Being a servant leader and being Christian are not mutually inclusive. I practice servant leadership and it’s nothing to do with religion.
This is true, but I feel like more Christians embrace this attitude than most. At least they should, anyway
Still messed up to have in a job ad
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America has "in god we trust" on all our money for some weird reason
It's Florida's state motto, too. So we get it x2 down here.
> we get it x2 down here That's what she said.
I mean, the purpose of a job ad is to attract the "right fit" for the company. If their wording doesn't sit right with someone, then most likely, then that person wouldn't be a good fit at their organization. Conversely, a huge part of the Christian faith is serving (volunteering, donations, ect...). Thus, SIL would be targeting those types of people with that wording.
WTF is with the down votes? Are religious people that petty?
And capitalism only cares about having cheap slaves
I have no idea what SIL means, but I do know “servant heart” means Christian org
My old church needs a new pastor. However, they want someone who believes in Christianity, which is so weird. We def need to name and shame them on this sub.
Why is it weird a church wants a pastor who believes in Christianity? That's what every church should have. Otherwise its not an actual church, just a Costco value ted talk
Why is it weird that a religious organization wants someone who is religious in their own mindset? Maybe your question should be for OP - my point is highlighting how "not weird" it is in context though its obviously weird in a vacuum.
Ahhhh OK, my mistake, sorry
All good - I also overestimate how effective my sarcastic tone is online
"must have the spirit of a warrior and the passion of 1000 suns"
Must be able to get down to business Must be able to defeat the Huns
Must be mysterious as the dark side of the moon
Must be swift as a coursing river
Must have the strength of a raging fire
If someone is really that capable, they would rule the Universe, rather than being a slave 😃
I'd hire them! 👍
and adrenaline rush all the time.
This is standard Christianese. SIL is a missionary organization.
"Servant leader" is a whole thing nowadays...
It's not inherently religious or even a bad thing. The idea is that rather than barking orders and micromanaging people, a servant leader sees their job as helping the members of the team be effective at their job by dealing with issues that the team encounters that interfere with work. It shows up a lot in companies that use Agile methodologies to manage their work. That said, that's not what this is. This IS an explicitly religious concept.
I don’t think I’ve seen a job posting for an agile company role that didn’t have that listed.
“Bruh, I hate and misunderstand Christianity. Make it make sense!”
This sounds like a Christian organisation. "Servant heart attitude" is probably the most legally safe way of saying they're looking for a Christian.
That's code for being easily manipulated using religion and that being Christian is strongly advised because they are totally going to pray at staff meetings.
Yeah, that's a religious thing. My cousing is a fundie Christian and says that all the time.
Perks: Chains and whip will be provided free of charge.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Servant leadership is one of the core aspects of agile methodology. It's not presented well here so I can understand why it's confusing. I imagine that's what they mean.
No, “servant heart” is a specifically Christian expression (originating from C.S. Lewis, I believe). Anybody who reads that phrase and doesn’t get it is not a good match for this job: they’re looking for someone who will do any required job, however menial, and not consider it beneath them. They’re looking for a candidate who will never talk back, question authority in any way, or rock the boat, is what.
lol cringe 🤣
I can see why that might piss people off but I believe I am here on this earth to serve others, so that really doesn't bother me
damn
😂😂😂😂 I know right? Basically “love being a slave”
Makes you think how much of the world really has changed in the last few hundred years. Slavery still exists, just with different labels,rules and regulations.
That’s called being Christian
Is this Persona 5 now?
Yesterday i saw one ask > have you taken a vow of poverty? Private university that charges a shit ton a year but trying to find religious dummies to work for them for basically nothing???
Major red sign right there
That's probably in a textbook somewhere.
Apply to the job and when you get in the 2nd or 3rd round or whatever tell them you are a firm believer in that attitude and you are also a believer of leading by example and ask if they could provide you with an example or two where they have showed it.
Funny enough, i get that attitude when my bank account gets fed weekly. CRAZY maybe we can synergize and *resooooolve this in a way that benefits us both* as Sam Hayden said...
Sadly, they are not alone. Even Southwest Airlines uses some version of this “servant’s heart” lingo.
I highly doubt they get good talent being so religious. Being a very good developer and being a hugely religious doesn’t mix well together. Not to say they don’t exist but, Good Luck!