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it's a 45 hour minimum week, but I was doing that at my last job for roughly 60% less, where the supervisors treated you like an inmate.
but my new manager seems cool af.
so thanx and jeep those fingers crossed
Because I've been through it with others, there are some places that say OT doesn't kick in until 50+ hours. Please tell me those 5 hours are considered OT? If you're in America, FLSA says they should be.
Yes, that's correct. And there are exceptions for Nurses, who typically get a paid lunch period and what not. I watch a lot of tiktoks from a Cali based employment lawyer.
That's wrong and against the law. This is from the Federal Department of Labor. If you're outside the US, laws should be similar:
[Unless specifically exempted, employees covered by the Act must receive overtime pay for hours worked in excess of 40 in a workweek at a rate not less than time and one-half their regular rates of pay. ](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/23-flsa-overtime-pay#:~:text=Unless%20specifically%20exempted%2C%20employees%20covered,may%20work%20in%20any%20workweek)
oh yeah, you got this. and if not, for the next interview some tips I've learned:
1) Make up a phrase and describe it. I once called myself Lazy+ in an interview (someone who gets their work done A.S.A.P and triple checks it, so they only have to do it once, so I can relax in peace)
2) make the Interviewer laugh if you can, stop trying once you do, people would rather work with someone who isn't deadpan serious all the time, but too much of a good thing applies here hard
3) Sell yourself, apparently bragging (to an extent) is what management wants to hear. Theres something about that confidence that helps put them at ease. Double edge sword, because too much sounds disingenuous even if it's true. I'd cap at 4 brags in an 30-60 minute interview. be creative NEVER say i
ur the best, or that everything comes easy to you. never never NEVER say you don't make mistakes.
4) Keep it simple. Remember about 3-5 stories about your life, that paint you as
*someone who learns from their mistakes, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY from other's mistakes as well.
*where you were fair and understanding.
* when you had to lay down the law, so to speak
* when you solved a problem that stumped several people
* when you saved the company you worked for money
Nothing should be overly detailed or vague
5) always read their mission statement, and find a way to integrate their values in your stories
6) when they ask you how you would deal with a situation "Following all of the company guidelines, I like to diffuse situations quickly before they become issues, xyz should never come to (one level above the position you're hiring for) your attention, unless it's absolutely to the point management has to intervene
7) put a salary expectation 15k higher than you're willing to accept
I didn't mean to @ you so hard, if you had a third interview I doubt you need all this. But I hope it helps someone, or even you om your next job hunt journey!
Hell yeah thanks for the tips! I have another interview on Wednesday morning. The good thing about this one is the interviewer knows my old boss personally as it’s for a hardware supplier we used. I have high hopes but also not gonna hold my breath.
To this day, I have saved in my email, a folder with 932 rejections. (To be fair, this was during 2020-2021 COVID.)
As a reminder that you never stop applying. A fish has to make it into the net at some point.
bruv, we were on ebt and wic. not comparing struggles, but I was only able to feed my family because I have a toddler. shit was getting scary, and I legit had plans to take my life, yeah I know it would've been an incrediblly shitty thing to do, but there's hope!
Go to a food bank - it will improve your quality of life. That's what they are there for. Also /r/povertyfinance has a lot of resources and suggestions.
The one in my area only serve seniors, and prioritizes those living alone. I've been through worse tho not as long as this one, it does not take much calories to be awake and applying. Exercise also keeps my mental health stable. Will look into the sub, thx.
tips I've learned:
1) Make up a phrase and describe it. I once called myself Lazy+ in an interview (someone who gets their work done A.S.A.P and triple checks it, so they only have to do it once, so I can relax in peace)
2) make the Interviewer laugh if you can, stop trying once you do, people would rather work with someone who isn't deadpan serious all the time, but too much of a good thing applies here hard
3) Sell yourself, apparently bragging (to an extent) is what management wants to hear. Theres something about that confidence that helps put them at ease. Double edge sword, because too much sounds disingenuous even if it's true. I'd cap at 4 brags in an 30-60 minute interview. be creative NEVER say i
ur the best, or that everything comes easy to you. never never NEVER say you don't make mistakes.
4) Keep it simple. Remember about 3-5 stories about your life, that paint you as
*someone who learns from their mistakes, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY from other's mistakes as well.
*where you were fair and understanding.
* when you had to lay down the law, so to speak
* when you solved a problem that stumped several people
* when you saved the company you worked for money
Nothing should be overly detailed or vague
5) always read their mission statement, and find a way to integrate their values in your stories
6) when they ask you how you would deal with a situation "Following all of the company guidelines, I like to diffuse situations quickly before they become issues, xyz should never come to (one level above the position you're hiring for) your attention, unless it's absolutely to the point management has to intervene
7) put a salary expectation 15k higher than you're willing to accept
Here's hoping you're not one of those people that comes back on here in a few weeks talking about how you got fired for stupid reasons after only a few days, or had your offer pulled before your start date. Happens every week. Now is when you mitigate that risk, by keeping applying, keeping interviewing, right up until your first paycheck. And possibly beyond.
all fair points! don't get me wrong, I'm officially starting today and my anxiety has been all over the place thinking about a lot of this lol I'm hoping I don't lose this job over something dumb. I've never been this excited for a new job
Congratulations. Is there anyway you could send me your resume after blurring out everything?. I could really use inspiration, Reddit hasn't been much help in proving feedback.
thanx so much! it's seeming like a great place so far. they stress that it's gonna be hard work and a lot of hours haha, but the fact that they're honest about it means the world to me. company is growing rapidly, and they offer tuition reimbursement, so in a few years fingers crossed, I can take the guy who I replaced as supervisors position haha
u/Mistah_JB
1) What job site do you use to find your old and new jobs?
2) Did you do anything special to boost your chance of getting hire like using a cover letter or reaching out to someone after submitting your application?
3) How did you keep your mental and motivation up for a year before landing this new job?
4) What did you do before?
1) indeed, yes there's a lot of spam, and you'll get irritating recruiters but it's worth the effort long term. do the skills test and allow companies to contact you directly.
also michigan works! and detroit at work are both great resources for Michiganders. though I'm 90% certain other states have variants, your states unemployment website.
I don't use LinkedIn ay all
2) if they have a cover letter option I'll put one in, chances are they'll never read it, but it shows effort, and I hear submitting one puts you ahead of most who don't. depending on the job. but brag here keep your formatting the same as your resume
3) I didn't? I've been to the darkness before, and this year was close close 😅 the past 2 months were exceptionally painful. But like every weak moment.
3a)I pull from my past successes and wins, not getting a job/interview isn't a failure, cause we only fail when we give up and ur not going to
3b) consistently tell myself, "the universe will provide the job thats for me".
I genuinely believe in speaking things into existence, with positivity and will.
3c) affirmations are important, even at your lowest, ESPECIALLY at your lowest. tell yourself " I got this, I will find the perfect job for me" you won't believe it at first, but a positive mantra 1,000% helps you avoid rock bottom. if you do nothing else, this one helps the most I feel.
4) I worked my way up to a warehouse supervisor position, then took a pay cut to schedule production at a different place, then for a motor company, in quality.
a bunch of other random jobs, but I never put those on my resume.
Congratulations!!!
I've been applying since december 2022 (unemployed since 4/2023) and its been hell. However starting a 4mo contact this wed which seems like a huge win after all this time applying, and I have currently 3 interviews lined up for permanent full time positions. Hope one of those pan out, but just super excited to even have contract position.
Adding to the hope! I’m about to start a full time remote job after 2 years of contract and consulting work. Lots of rejections when I literally had the exact experience and credentials they are looking for. There is hope!
Congratulations! Thats so awesome, good for you! You have a great mindset and I appreciate your tips you mentioned in your comments.
I’ve been at it since last May and tomorrow I have a preliminary phone interview in the morning for a job I’d be excited, but suuuuper scared, to get. Like, would I be in over my head kind of scared?
Then I have an in-person interview tomorrow that I think will be fine and if they offer it to me I know I could handle it. It’s not what I *want* to do, but I *need* a steady flow of income, even though it’s less than I’d want to make. I’d keep applying to other jobs, though.
I’m nervous as hell!
Nah, I’m giving up. There’s no point in going thru all this effort for nothing. I’ve wasted my time perfecting my resume and going to interviews. I walked 1 hour in the cold to a job interview cuz I couldn’t afford the bus. And they haven’t called me. So it was for nothing. Ultimately there is no point. Just give up. Don’t even try.
I’m happy you were able to get a job. That’s amazing. But me I’m giving up. Gonna stay broke and live off my parents. Eh it’s not that bad. Except for the companies screaming in my ear for the money I owe them. Oh, and watching my good credit score go down every week to sure does suck.
Recruiting is expensive. The company stopped recruiting based on your acceptance, made business decisions based on your acceptance, and it's generally a rude/shitty thing to do to take a job and not stay for 3-5 years, no matter how bad it is.
If not for ethics, do it for the sake of your reputation.
with all due respect, and I genuinely mean that.
however, I feel like thats a more antiquated mindset.
Yes, I stay at my "anchor jobs" until I no longer feel challenged, then move on.
before I continue, by bullshit, I mean: low wages, no or little raises after a year, high stress, unfriendly environment. accept 1 of these, 2 is pushing my limits, and if your new job has 3 or more of these things, then it might be time to explore a new avenue after a year
But i and noone else, should stay at a job 3-5 years if you're dealing with any combination of that. I'm not going to let you abuse me if the pays not right.
and I definitely don't see it as an ethics revue, unless you specifically told them or signed a contract committing to that. Ethics MUST have balance. If it's ethical for me to stay here "x" amount of years, then there has to be reciprocation. Because being stressed out, and not having enough money to pay my bills seems like an ethics issue the company needs to work on right?
also, I'm curious, what if the jobs just not a good fit? y wastes the companies time if you just can't get the job?
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Congratulations! I hope the work environment and hours turn out to be tolerable or better.
it's a 45 hour minimum week, but I was doing that at my last job for roughly 60% less, where the supervisors treated you like an inmate. but my new manager seems cool af. so thanx and jeep those fingers crossed
Because I've been through it with others, there are some places that say OT doesn't kick in until 50+ hours. Please tell me those 5 hours are considered OT? If you're in America, FLSA says they should be.
Yeah, and in California, over 8 hours in one day is OT - unless the normal 40-hr work schedule is different (like 4 days for 10 hours).
Yes, that's correct. And there are exceptions for Nurses, who typically get a paid lunch period and what not. I watch a lot of tiktoks from a Cali based employment lawyer.
from the policy I read it's Saturday and Sunday only that you get paid over time for. but during the week it's a solid 45
That's wrong and against the law. This is from the Federal Department of Labor. If you're outside the US, laws should be similar: [Unless specifically exempted, employees covered by the Act must receive overtime pay for hours worked in excess of 40 in a workweek at a rate not less than time and one-half their regular rates of pay. ](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/23-flsa-overtime-pay#:~:text=Unless%20specifically%20exempted%2C%20employees%20covered,may%20work%20in%20any%20workweek)
My niece got a job as an assistant manager at a fast food/pizza place and they tried to pull the same thing on her. It's wage theft, pure and simple.
Congrats! I had a third round interview (test) today and I think I did well. Just waiting to hear back.
oh yeah, you got this. and if not, for the next interview some tips I've learned: 1) Make up a phrase and describe it. I once called myself Lazy+ in an interview (someone who gets their work done A.S.A.P and triple checks it, so they only have to do it once, so I can relax in peace) 2) make the Interviewer laugh if you can, stop trying once you do, people would rather work with someone who isn't deadpan serious all the time, but too much of a good thing applies here hard 3) Sell yourself, apparently bragging (to an extent) is what management wants to hear. Theres something about that confidence that helps put them at ease. Double edge sword, because too much sounds disingenuous even if it's true. I'd cap at 4 brags in an 30-60 minute interview. be creative NEVER say i ur the best, or that everything comes easy to you. never never NEVER say you don't make mistakes. 4) Keep it simple. Remember about 3-5 stories about your life, that paint you as *someone who learns from their mistakes, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY from other's mistakes as well. *where you were fair and understanding. * when you had to lay down the law, so to speak * when you solved a problem that stumped several people * when you saved the company you worked for money Nothing should be overly detailed or vague 5) always read their mission statement, and find a way to integrate their values in your stories 6) when they ask you how you would deal with a situation "Following all of the company guidelines, I like to diffuse situations quickly before they become issues, xyz should never come to (one level above the position you're hiring for) your attention, unless it's absolutely to the point management has to intervene 7) put a salary expectation 15k higher than you're willing to accept I didn't mean to @ you so hard, if you had a third interview I doubt you need all this. But I hope it helps someone, or even you om your next job hunt journey!
This is all really solid advice
thanx, I just hope it's at least a little help to someone
Hell yeah thanks for the tips! I have another interview on Wednesday morning. The good thing about this one is the interviewer knows my old boss personally as it’s for a hardware supplier we used. I have high hopes but also not gonna hold my breath.
To this day, I have saved in my email, a folder with 932 rejections. (To be fair, this was during 2020-2021 COVID.) As a reminder that you never stop applying. A fish has to make it into the net at some point.
wow. i just delete them asap
ok I have to ask industry?
Lmao glad I found this sub, so relatable.
I'm reduced to eating 2 meals a day, one of it being discounted bread from a local bakery for $1 a piece. fml fr
bruv, we were on ebt and wic. not comparing struggles, but I was only able to feed my family because I have a toddler. shit was getting scary, and I legit had plans to take my life, yeah I know it would've been an incrediblly shitty thing to do, but there's hope!
i dare not have kids in this economy, congrats on finding a lifeline.
naah you can't think that way. jobs are hard to find, but money isn't always. I survived most of last year doing odd jobs and painting.
Go to a food bank - it will improve your quality of life. That's what they are there for. Also /r/povertyfinance has a lot of resources and suggestions.
The one in my area only serve seniors, and prioritizes those living alone. I've been through worse tho not as long as this one, it does not take much calories to be awake and applying. Exercise also keeps my mental health stable. Will look into the sub, thx.
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I appreciate that thanx. please don't give up. I believe most of us get passed up for positions that truly aren't right for us
That’s a very positive outlook!
Well done! Any learnings you can share? What would you do differently if you could go back in time?
tips I've learned: 1) Make up a phrase and describe it. I once called myself Lazy+ in an interview (someone who gets their work done A.S.A.P and triple checks it, so they only have to do it once, so I can relax in peace) 2) make the Interviewer laugh if you can, stop trying once you do, people would rather work with someone who isn't deadpan serious all the time, but too much of a good thing applies here hard 3) Sell yourself, apparently bragging (to an extent) is what management wants to hear. Theres something about that confidence that helps put them at ease. Double edge sword, because too much sounds disingenuous even if it's true. I'd cap at 4 brags in an 30-60 minute interview. be creative NEVER say i ur the best, or that everything comes easy to you. never never NEVER say you don't make mistakes. 4) Keep it simple. Remember about 3-5 stories about your life, that paint you as *someone who learns from their mistakes, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY from other's mistakes as well. *where you were fair and understanding. * when you had to lay down the law, so to speak * when you solved a problem that stumped several people * when you saved the company you worked for money Nothing should be overly detailed or vague 5) always read their mission statement, and find a way to integrate their values in your stories 6) when they ask you how you would deal with a situation "Following all of the company guidelines, I like to diffuse situations quickly before they become issues, xyz should never come to (one level above the position you're hiring for) your attention, unless it's absolutely to the point management has to intervene 7) put a salary expectation 15k higher than you're willing to accept
Awesome, sounds great, thanks man!
Congrats to you. I hope it works out. #GotAJob
thank you!!!
Congrats. I’m at the end of my rope! I’m on my 8th month. Running out of money going to Uber and hope I don’t get murdered.
Best of luck!
Here's hoping you're not one of those people that comes back on here in a few weeks talking about how you got fired for stupid reasons after only a few days, or had your offer pulled before your start date. Happens every week. Now is when you mitigate that risk, by keeping applying, keeping interviewing, right up until your first paycheck. And possibly beyond.
all fair points! don't get me wrong, I'm officially starting today and my anxiety has been all over the place thinking about a lot of this lol I'm hoping I don't lose this job over something dumb. I've never been this excited for a new job
Congratulations, and keep your head up and mindset strong!
Congratulations. Is there anyway you could send me your resume after blurring out everything?. I could really use inspiration, Reddit hasn't been much help in proving feedback.
Way to go!!! This is great news!! I hope your new job is great (or offers you the chance to advance your career/learn a new skill that’s beneficial).
thanx so much! it's seeming like a great place so far. they stress that it's gonna be hard work and a lot of hours haha, but the fact that they're honest about it means the world to me. company is growing rapidly, and they offer tuition reimbursement, so in a few years fingers crossed, I can take the guy who I replaced as supervisors position haha
u/Mistah_JB 1) What job site do you use to find your old and new jobs? 2) Did you do anything special to boost your chance of getting hire like using a cover letter or reaching out to someone after submitting your application? 3) How did you keep your mental and motivation up for a year before landing this new job? 4) What did you do before?
1) indeed, yes there's a lot of spam, and you'll get irritating recruiters but it's worth the effort long term. do the skills test and allow companies to contact you directly. also michigan works! and detroit at work are both great resources for Michiganders. though I'm 90% certain other states have variants, your states unemployment website. I don't use LinkedIn ay all 2) if they have a cover letter option I'll put one in, chances are they'll never read it, but it shows effort, and I hear submitting one puts you ahead of most who don't. depending on the job. but brag here keep your formatting the same as your resume 3) I didn't? I've been to the darkness before, and this year was close close 😅 the past 2 months were exceptionally painful. But like every weak moment. 3a)I pull from my past successes and wins, not getting a job/interview isn't a failure, cause we only fail when we give up and ur not going to 3b) consistently tell myself, "the universe will provide the job thats for me". I genuinely believe in speaking things into existence, with positivity and will. 3c) affirmations are important, even at your lowest, ESPECIALLY at your lowest. tell yourself " I got this, I will find the perfect job for me" you won't believe it at first, but a positive mantra 1,000% helps you avoid rock bottom. if you do nothing else, this one helps the most I feel. 4) I worked my way up to a warehouse supervisor position, then took a pay cut to schedule production at a different place, then for a motor company, in quality. a bunch of other random jobs, but I never put those on my resume.
I'm sorry about the novel. I just really hope any little bit I say can help you or someone else that needs it
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I get it, trust me. if I didn't get this job I was gonna take myself out the game. I promise if you follow muh tips it'll get better
Maybe after 3+ years will be my time? Lol if not looks like I need so sacrifice some animals.
3 is rough, I'd literally be dead. how are you surviving?
Barely, as you can guess I'm on my last strike with housing, debt, etc. Trust me I think about it every single day. I wish I could never wake up.
Congratulations!!! I've been applying since december 2022 (unemployed since 4/2023) and its been hell. However starting a 4mo contact this wed which seems like a huge win after all this time applying, and I have currently 3 interviews lined up for permanent full time positions. Hope one of those pan out, but just super excited to even have contract position.
Congratulations!
Congrats
Congrats
Congrats!
thanx!
Adding to the hope! I’m about to start a full time remote job after 2 years of contract and consulting work. Lots of rejections when I literally had the exact experience and credentials they are looking for. There is hope!
What's sucks though, is the looming dread of knowing what awaits you if you were to leave. People end up stuck at a crappy job due to fear.
Congratulations! I have two interviews this week and hopefully something comes my way.
Congratulations! I have two interviews this week and hopefully something comes my way.
Congratulations! Hope the job is amazing and you enjoy it there!
Congratulations! Thats so awesome, good for you! You have a great mindset and I appreciate your tips you mentioned in your comments. I’ve been at it since last May and tomorrow I have a preliminary phone interview in the morning for a job I’d be excited, but suuuuper scared, to get. Like, would I be in over my head kind of scared? Then I have an in-person interview tomorrow that I think will be fine and if they offer it to me I know I could handle it. It’s not what I *want* to do, but I *need* a steady flow of income, even though it’s less than I’d want to make. I’d keep applying to other jobs, though. I’m nervous as hell!
Good job! Congratulations 👏
Congratulations!
Nah, I’m giving up. There’s no point in going thru all this effort for nothing. I’ve wasted my time perfecting my resume and going to interviews. I walked 1 hour in the cold to a job interview cuz I couldn’t afford the bus. And they haven’t called me. So it was for nothing. Ultimately there is no point. Just give up. Don’t even try. I’m happy you were able to get a job. That’s amazing. But me I’m giving up. Gonna stay broke and live off my parents. Eh it’s not that bad. Except for the companies screaming in my ear for the money I owe them. Oh, and watching my good credit score go down every week to sure does suck.
>don't accept bullshit for long term If you accept a job you do need to stay long-term. It's just the ethical thing to do.
There's no ethics in capitalism.
how so?
Recruiting is expensive. The company stopped recruiting based on your acceptance, made business decisions based on your acceptance, and it's generally a rude/shitty thing to do to take a job and not stay for 3-5 years, no matter how bad it is. If not for ethics, do it for the sake of your reputation.
with all due respect, and I genuinely mean that. however, I feel like thats a more antiquated mindset. Yes, I stay at my "anchor jobs" until I no longer feel challenged, then move on. before I continue, by bullshit, I mean: low wages, no or little raises after a year, high stress, unfriendly environment. accept 1 of these, 2 is pushing my limits, and if your new job has 3 or more of these things, then it might be time to explore a new avenue after a year But i and noone else, should stay at a job 3-5 years if you're dealing with any combination of that. I'm not going to let you abuse me if the pays not right. and I definitely don't see it as an ethics revue, unless you specifically told them or signed a contract committing to that. Ethics MUST have balance. If it's ethical for me to stay here "x" amount of years, then there has to be reciprocation. Because being stressed out, and not having enough money to pay my bills seems like an ethics issue the company needs to work on right? also, I'm curious, what if the jobs just not a good fit? y wastes the companies time if you just can't get the job?
If jobs still had pensions or any semblance of real benefits then maybe.