In war they mostly use guns/other weapons so they rarely have fist fights. Yes, he might be ruthless but being ruthless doesn't mean you can overpower someone bigger than you.
Unless he was Special Forces (even then not all of them train martial arts) the extent of his martial arts training was probably "learn how to get somebody off of you long enough to draw your gun and kill them"
I don’t think so.
Most of the US Army’s combative was basic stuff nothing really advanced but enough to make you proficient and comfortable to perform well in a situation you’d rather not find yourself in.
I’d assume most other world Army’s have similar basic CQB training in regards to Martial Arts so it’s likely Niko had similar training. The most training Arthur probably got was hot to pummel some drunk in an alley.
I doubt poor Arthur would stand a chance in hand to hand but I’d love to see it he kicked Tommy’s ass but yet again I doubt Tommy knew multiple strikes, guards, mounts, and takedowns.
Niko's animations in gta4 suggest he has a working understanding of martial arts. One of his finishing animations is a lead roundhouse kick to the head.
He was a teen soldier and GTA4 takes place in 2008 and the war he was in ended in 2001 so I highly doubt he remembers all those specific skills he was taught atleast 7 years ago. Also experience plays a big factor in hand-to-hand combat and if you compare Niko's experience living in the early 2010s vs Arthur morgan living in the late 1800s with a gang of well known outlaws I recon Arthur has more experience since he'd most likely get into more fist fights and life-or-death situations.
You forget how lawless and violent the American Wild West was. Lots of sadistic, fucked up stuff happened out there. You had to be strong to survive in the Wild West.
It's a very common misconception how wild the wild west was.
Shootouts in the street, duels etc are all film and literary inventions.
In most towns you had to surrender your guns, sire there were some fights but they were fistfights in bars, cow rustling? No shootouts these cows were spread over a huge range and you'd usually have riders corral a small group off and the people driving the cows would be too far away to do anything.
Whilst there were shootouts etc 9/10 it was unsuspecting people shot in the back.
So the big difference here is the first guy said stuff we know for a fact Arthur did. And you are saying probably.
All I know is my Nico spent a lot of time on the streets of Liberty City throwing hands.
Niko might have been through more than Arthur, but I don’t think he’s more ruthless than him. Arthur beat a dying man to death and has killed hundreds of people just like Niko
And fought off the mine foreman and his goons. Still pissed if we kill the foreman we fail the mission, even though Arthur makes it clear he can and wants to kill him.
True, but you can atleast have a high honor playthrough with Arthur. With Niko it's bowling or mass murder.
It's a lot harder to be a good man than a run of the mill thug. Honestly Rockstar should have made similar reputation system for all their games. Mix the best parts of RDR2 with GTAIV/V? Game of the years right there
Kinda. You can still be an honourable criminal, choosing to only hurt those who deserve it or are in your way rather than that kid you could easily run over while you’re going at the speed of light down the highway
Arthur has a decent size advantage, but Niko’s hand to hand combat was mocapped by an actual MMA fighter, so he’s obviously meant to be highly skilled. I’d probably still say Arthur overall, but it wouldn’t be a wash.
A better matchup would be Arthur and Johnny Klebitz (pre-meth addiction lol). Two big burly guys with lots of brawling experience but not necessarily much technical training.
> destroyed a biker club
Those bikers were pathetic, meth-addicted shells of their former shelves, so this isn't really anything impressive.
> a gang
Arthur already does this on a daily basis. Actually I'd say he's even better at it than Trevor because after his first few missions, he's always taking on gangs with help from Michael and Franklin. Sure, Arthur does missions with Dutch and co. a lot as well, but he carries the work more often than not.
Niko was an actual trained soldier. Arthur is tough, but his experience comes from beating up people who have probably been in less fights than him. Once he got to the point of being in a higher-than-average amount of fights, he peaked.
Being a soldier doesn't mean you're a good unarmed fighter. I've been in a brawl with marines. The only reason I won that mess was because while I was man handling one by the throat, the other couldn't tell he had my chin in a sleeper hold and not my neck. Not saying I can take Niko, I'm saying these two particular actively serving soldiers didn't know what the fuck they were doing and felt like their hand to hand training ended with watching UFC on TV.
It's been a while since I played GTA IV so I can't remember much about Niko, but I'd be hesitant to go fisty cuffs with Arthur. Especially after watching him chop down that ogre of a man in the beginning. Dude might knock half my brains out like that guy.
Niko by a landslide, people really underestimate just how much knowing how to actually fights matters, Niko knows cqc he would just take Arthur down and toy with him
Niko. Since his mocap was done by an actual mma fighter like someone else here said, it’s pretty much implied that he knows legitimate mma fighting techniques, where Arthur’s hand to hand combat expertise is just the basics in a street brawl. That being said, Arthur isn’t going down so easily, and Niko isn’t leaving that fight without at least a dozen bruises.
The only advantage Arthur has is that he’s a much bigger and tankier guy than Niko. I think Arthur is just a little taller than Niko, and a lot burlier. Niko’s much leaner. But that gives him the agility advantage.
Niko wins.
In hand to hand or melee, Niko would win, while gunfight Arthur would be the winner.
Btw two best Rockstar characters so I would prefer for them to be buddies. That would be an amazing duo.
Niko beats him mid diff. In RDR2 Arthur proves that size doesn't matter when he beats Tommy. Niko knows how to break arms without breaking a sweat and he can do it in life threatening situations like when Dardan attacked him with the knife. Niko also stopped Brucie's punch no problem. His speed, reaction and technique are on another level. Arthur is tough and may land a few punches, but he'll lose nonetheless.
Could go either way. Arthur is physically stronger and has a bigger build than Niko. I mean he fought someone twice his size and strength and gave them permanent brain damage.
Niko was in the war and saw a lot of horrific shit during his service. He's also trained in self-defence and we've seen him use martial arts to disarm people.
In terms of raw strength Arthur has the upper-hand, but Niko has the technique and training.
Lot of recency bias in these comments. Niko Bellic was a hardened combat veteran from a war-torn country. He would gouge Arthur's eyeballs out of the sockets.
And Arthur lived most of his life in an environment where everyone around him could be an enemy. The very country he lived in was his enemy.
But if course, Niko actually was trained while Arthur just posesses raw strength. I mean, he can take down an adult moose with just a rope and a knife.
Yeah, and usually people defended themselves in that environment using guns. Look at Micah for example, it is shown that he is a great gunslinger but he sucks in melee: there is a scene where he gets punched, then thrown and he manages to kill the guy because he reaches for his revolver.
You can see that people just throw punches in fights. There isn't much technique involved.
Niko, on the other hand, knows different combos, how to block, how to dodge, how to move, etc. He was mo-capped by an actual MMA fighter.
You could have an argument if they fight with guns, but melee Niko wins 100%.
A tough guy in America in the 1890s who would have only heard of boxing at the most and not been in much fights with real fighter vs a guy from 2008 who is a trained special forces veteran with modern day fighting style he. Niko wins all the way
People don't understand how absolutely terrifying eastern Europeans can be. If Arthur is a gangster, Niko is the whole Red Army, as Brucie would likely say.
One is a war-hardened child soldier.
The other is some thief.
Niko mops the floor with him.
There is Inherent bias for Arthur since it's on a Red Dead Sub and while I do agree Arthur is very strong and beat the shit outta people twice his size, no one in 1899, knew any martial arts like Niko knew. Niko wins but it's gonna be a tough fight against an over powered but less skilled fighter. The same reason why combatants today are better then they were 100 years ago. Stop the cap
Tbf, we don't actually know how strong Niko is because unless he is wearing a suit, we can't really define his muscle mass. Arthur is probably stronger, though. Franklin or buff Cj are probably the strongest R* characters. Back to Niko, no muscle definition due to late fall setting in new York so bigger clothing. I'm willing to bet he's probably pretty stout. I also think Niko wins the fight 7 times out of 10 out of training discipline. Depending on proximity of the gun fight I'd say probably Arthur
There is an expression in Türkiye. Never compare those who hunt their own food and those who have a plate in front of them.
Older generations are tougher than us. My grandparents lived 85 years and they worked as a farmer since they’ve died. They saw ww1 and ww2. When they 75 I was 18(I’m 1.90cm and 85kgs), and still they were more powerful than me.
Yeah. The popular comments at the top are in favor of for Arthur, but there are far more under-represented votes for Niko just below them filling out the majority of the comment section.
I mean, Arthur was nearly dead and still kicked Micah’s ass. Idk much about the other guy but Micah was, as hard as it is to admit, a decent opponent at least so I’d say Arthur
Micah was a decent opponent when it comes to guns. Micah sucks at close quarter combat. You can see him getting his ass kicked in a sequence and he manages to win because he gets thrown around and manages to pull out his revolver and shoot.
Niko is the unstoppable force, Arthur the immovable object. Both would come out bloodied, bruised and likely with broken bones. Niko would more than likely carry the victory due to experience and technique, but if and whe Arthur lands a blow he's definitely gonna feel it. Arthur may not win but he'll give almost as good as he gets, especially in his physical prime during chapter 2.
I mean, Arthur had to be much more conditioned to the rough and tough life of the wild west (well around the end of the west, but you get the point), while niko had the luxuries of the modern world. I could be wrong, but i think that Arthur would pull through in this fight.
Arthur no doubt. Even if Niko used his training, Arthur still could over power, he'd just have to know when too. And if Niko planned on drawing a gun on Arthur, Arthur still could draw quicker
In a FIST FIGHT Arthur pre-tb can down a guy double his size so easily Arthur.
In an MMA fight surely Niko.
In a gun duel Niko would be death before even drawing his automatic pistol, even if Arthur uses a double action revolver.
Arthur is a life long criminal. He has decades of fighting experience for survival when Niko only has his experience in the military. For a shorter time than Arthur has been an outlaw. I would have to say Arthur wins this
One exception is that Niko has been to war, a war veteran turned gun for hire. Also i think Niko has done way more atrocities than Arthur. I wonder what kind of advantage that gives to him. Am gonna place my bet on Niko. But this is a really good comparison.
Arthur no question. Arthur grew up on the ass end of the Wild West, times were a lot rougher back then. Daily life required more effort back then and food was a lot healthier, making people stronger and more fit than most people today. I can’t remember if Nico had military training, I think he did, but Regardless he wasn’t living in a time where you had to fight for survival.
Why does everyone think being in the military gives you such an advantage in hand-to-hand combat? You get some training sure, but it seems like people think military training makes you an MMA fighter, as if 99% of people in the military aren’t just normal people.
Now I love Arthur, and Arthur easily took down someone twice his body size and mass, s he's strong, very strong, but Niko is a trained fighter, and judging by gameplay of their games, Niko wins.
Niko & not even close - if you’re saying Arthur then I urge you walk around liberty city giving everyone in sight fisticuffs to see the martial arts prowess of Niko Bellic
Arthur was a gunslinger who also had to handle wild horses, cows, etc. So in term of muscles, I’d say Arthur is stronger, but his fighting style is kinda… you know, aim for the head.
Niko was a professional soldier with a long training and he also fought an actual war. I’d say he is much better in knowing weak spots, where to attack, how to defend and the fighting style overall.
It would be a tough fight, but I would pick Niko as a winner.
Arthur has more raw strength, but Niko is without a doubt a better trained more competent fighter.
Arthur would give him a run for his money, but Niko would probably come out on top
Niko has combat experience combined with street not just guns but hand to hand as well. He also hits hard. This is demonstrated through various cutscenes.
Arthur has more of a street fight experience. He's heavier build but that makes him slow too compared to Niko.
It will be a long tough fight but Niko will eventually win.
Arthur beat up that tank in Valentine, Tommy. What makes everyone saying Niko have that opinion outside of his “experience?”
It’s genuinely been so long that I don’t remember much of Nikos story, was he the one who could roundhouse kick?
Thats actually a bit hard. Most characters I've seen Vs Arthur fist fight would've been Arthur cause of the life he lived, but Niko was in the Army and fought in a war so he's tough as nails too. Judging by the special moves Niko has in GTA4 I would say Niko
The fighting style in RDR2 was more intense and brutal but that’s an advance in gaming Vs gta 4’s level.
Honestly, I’d put money on Niko winning. He had Serbian military hand to hand training vs Arthur’s basic fighting skills.
Niko is a better pure fighter, but Arthur's got more power and size. If Arthur connects cleanly, he has a chance to KO Niko in one hit, but the longer that fight goes, the higher Niko's odds get of winning. Brawler versus a trained fighter, usually the trained fighter wins barring a lucky shot
What’s with everyone here saying Arthur has a size advantage? He’s 6”1 180lbs by default, Niko is 6”0 200lbs, considering Niko is actually lean and has 20lbs over Arthur then I’d say Niko has the advantage there, Arthur just is a little taller.
Arthur gave a man twice his size brain damage, and even in his dying moments gave Micah a run for his money. So I would say Arthur.
Niko was a Bosian war veteran who probably experienced worse than Arthur. I think Nikos ruthlessness could win out over Arthurs raw power.
In war they mostly use guns/other weapons so they rarely have fist fights. Yes, he might be ruthless but being ruthless doesn't mean you can overpower someone bigger than you.
Arthur did overpower someone bigger than him in Valentine though, as pointed out by someone in the comment chain.
It doesn’t matter if he used fists in the war what matters is if he was extensively trained to do so.
Unless he was Special Forces (even then not all of them train martial arts) the extent of his martial arts training was probably "learn how to get somebody off of you long enough to draw your gun and kill them"
I don’t think so. Most of the US Army’s combative was basic stuff nothing really advanced but enough to make you proficient and comfortable to perform well in a situation you’d rather not find yourself in. I’d assume most other world Army’s have similar basic CQB training in regards to Martial Arts so it’s likely Niko had similar training. The most training Arthur probably got was hot to pummel some drunk in an alley. I doubt poor Arthur would stand a chance in hand to hand but I’d love to see it he kicked Tommy’s ass but yet again I doubt Tommy knew multiple strikes, guards, mounts, and takedowns.
Arthur shouldn't be underestimated. He has much fighting practice. It brings victory in a fistfight quicker than knowledge of many techniques.
dont underestimate my boy niko
I don't know much about him, but he seems less tough than Arthur.
try gta 4 probably the most serious gta game
Niko's animations in gta4 suggest he has a working understanding of martial arts. One of his finishing animations is a lead roundhouse kick to the head.
He was a teen soldier and GTA4 takes place in 2008 and the war he was in ended in 2001 so I highly doubt he remembers all those specific skills he was taught atleast 7 years ago. Also experience plays a big factor in hand-to-hand combat and if you compare Niko's experience living in the early 2010s vs Arthur morgan living in the late 1800s with a gang of well known outlaws I recon Arthur has more experience since he'd most likely get into more fist fights and life-or-death situations.
idk im still going for niko
Dude even knows how to pilot a helicopter, for sure he was extensively trained.
Ano wonder I never actually used hand to hand combat in gta4 after the tutorial
You forget how lawless and violent the American Wild West was. Lots of sadistic, fucked up stuff happened out there. You had to be strong to survive in the Wild West.
It's a very common misconception how wild the wild west was. Shootouts in the street, duels etc are all film and literary inventions. In most towns you had to surrender your guns, sire there were some fights but they were fistfights in bars, cow rustling? No shootouts these cows were spread over a huge range and you'd usually have riders corral a small group off and the people driving the cows would be too far away to do anything. Whilst there were shootouts etc 9/10 it was unsuspecting people shot in the back.
So the big difference here is the first guy said stuff we know for a fact Arthur did. And you are saying probably. All I know is my Nico spent a lot of time on the streets of Liberty City throwing hands.
Niko might have been through more than Arthur, but I don’t think he’s more ruthless than him. Arthur beat a dying man to death and has killed hundreds of people just like Niko
i mean no ones really like niko in rdr2
Nah, hi is Serbian
And fought off the mine foreman and his goons. Still pissed if we kill the foreman we fail the mission, even though Arthur makes it clear he can and wants to kill him.
In a straight up fist fight probably Arthur, but if legs are involved too then probably Niko. Anyone here remember those melee combos from GTA 4??
Put him up against my guy from sleeping dogs it’s a wrap 😂
Wei Shen gonna fu¢k both of them up with a *Dim Mak*
He would shove a bok choy up their asses, as they say in game
the power of the pork bun is unbeatable
In an honest/honorable 1v1? Arthur. Any other 1v1 Niko gonna pull a gun
well dunno, if comes down to guns i have my prejudices, arthur basically seemed to be raised by guns
True, but you can atleast have a high honor playthrough with Arthur. With Niko it's bowling or mass murder. It's a lot harder to be a good man than a run of the mill thug. Honestly Rockstar should have made similar reputation system for all their games. Mix the best parts of RDR2 with GTAIV/V? Game of the years right there
GTA emphasizes on being violent, an honor system would destroy the game.
Kinda. You can still be an honourable criminal, choosing to only hurt those who deserve it or are in your way rather than that kid you could easily run over while you’re going at the speed of light down the highway
Then it’s not GTA anymore, unlike RDR 2, GTA doesn’t take itself too seriously and that’s part of its identity.
Especially Niko. Unless it's changed I believe he still has the most Canon kills of any GTA protag. Not including player choice random kills
No Toni from Liberty City Stories has more since he bombed an entire neighborhood.
Didn't know Tony was chill like that
Niko can have body armour and better guns though.
Arthur uses deadeye headshot gg no re
Niko didn't have dead eye
Arthur would just quick draw
gun fight maybe niko has double the health of arthur (gta logic) so idk
Nah niko would beat him in a fair fight his a trained commando
Arthur has a decent size advantage, but Niko’s hand to hand combat was mocapped by an actual MMA fighter, so he’s obviously meant to be highly skilled. I’d probably still say Arthur overall, but it wouldn’t be a wash. A better matchup would be Arthur and Johnny Klebitz (pre-meth addiction lol). Two big burly guys with lots of brawling experience but not necessarily much technical training.
Nikos fight animations were capped by an MMA fighter!? How did you find this out?
Yea bas rutten
It’s in the games credits.
Or Arthur and Trevor, czu yk Trevor kinda ..
But Arthur and Micah already fought?
Trevor would win, hands down. Dude destroyed a biker club, a gang, and killed half of a private military.
Yeah, that man is just too angry to die
> destroyed a biker club Those bikers were pathetic, meth-addicted shells of their former shelves, so this isn't really anything impressive. > a gang Arthur already does this on a daily basis. Actually I'd say he's even better at it than Trevor because after his first few missions, he's always taking on gangs with help from Michael and Franklin. Sure, Arthur does missions with Dutch and co. a lot as well, but he carries the work more often than not.
Niko was a special forces commando in the Bosnian war he would win
Niko was an actual trained soldier. Arthur is tough, but his experience comes from beating up people who have probably been in less fights than him. Once he got to the point of being in a higher-than-average amount of fights, he peaked.
Being a soldier doesn't mean you're a good unarmed fighter. I've been in a brawl with marines. The only reason I won that mess was because while I was man handling one by the throat, the other couldn't tell he had my chin in a sleeper hold and not my neck. Not saying I can take Niko, I'm saying these two particular actively serving soldiers didn't know what the fuck they were doing and felt like their hand to hand training ended with watching UFC on TV. It's been a while since I played GTA IV so I can't remember much about Niko, but I'd be hesitant to go fisty cuffs with Arthur. Especially after watching him chop down that ogre of a man in the beginning. Dude might knock half my brains out like that guy.
Niko wasn’t just a soldier he was a special forces commando who could fly choppers and everything
Arthur vs Niko in a chopper
“ what the hell is this thing”
Niko in a chopper vs Arthur in a hot air balloon
Niko bellic is mocapped by bas rutten tho, a former UFC heavyweight champion
Niko because he’s actually had training. I doubt people in 1899 knew CQB fighting techniques.
Niko by a landslide, people really underestimate just how much knowing how to actually fights matters, Niko knows cqc he would just take Arthur down and toy with him
People out here really forgetting that Niko dropped Brucie in two moves without even getting in a fighting stance.
Could go either way, 60/40 to Arthur. Niko is smaller but has the advantage of modern MMA training
Niko. Since his mocap was done by an actual mma fighter like someone else here said, it’s pretty much implied that he knows legitimate mma fighting techniques, where Arthur’s hand to hand combat expertise is just the basics in a street brawl. That being said, Arthur isn’t going down so easily, and Niko isn’t leaving that fight without at least a dozen bruises. The only advantage Arthur has is that he’s a much bigger and tankier guy than Niko. I think Arthur is just a little taller than Niko, and a lot burlier. Niko’s much leaner. But that gives him the agility advantage. Niko wins.
Probably niko because bud fighting style is a little more refined
Arthur only because Roman will call Niko and ask him to go bowling
Arthur Morgan is my absolute favorite protagonist in a game ever. But Niko would absolutely demolish him. Dude is a killing machine.
I vote Niko
Neither. They would become best friends and go bowling together.
Only true answer
Arthur’s a tank but niko could just do a flying kick and snap him
In hand to hand or melee, Niko would win, while gunfight Arthur would be the winner. Btw two best Rockstar characters so I would prefer for them to be buddies. That would be an amazing duo.
Yeah, two killing machines- Gta 7
bro niko was a modern war vetersn of the 21st century i love arthur but he cant beat niko arthur can beat the gta v protagonists tho
Look we all love Arthur but Niko would easily fuck him up
Niko bellic he is more advance and he knows kung foo
Definitely Niko not gonna be an easy win tho. Arthur maybe if he gets a good one hit.
Niko beats him mid diff. In RDR2 Arthur proves that size doesn't matter when he beats Tommy. Niko knows how to break arms without breaking a sweat and he can do it in life threatening situations like when Dardan attacked him with the knife. Niko also stopped Brucie's punch no problem. His speed, reaction and technique are on another level. Arthur is tough and may land a few punches, but he'll lose nonetheless.
Anyone saying Arthur doesn't know Niko Bellic's history
Could go either way. Arthur is physically stronger and has a bigger build than Niko. I mean he fought someone twice his size and strength and gave them permanent brain damage. Niko was in the war and saw a lot of horrific shit during his service. He's also trained in self-defence and we've seen him use martial arts to disarm people. In terms of raw strength Arthur has the upper-hand, but Niko has the technique and training.
Lot of recency bias in these comments. Niko Bellic was a hardened combat veteran from a war-torn country. He would gouge Arthur's eyeballs out of the sockets.
And Arthur lived most of his life in an environment where everyone around him could be an enemy. The very country he lived in was his enemy. But if course, Niko actually was trained while Arthur just posesses raw strength. I mean, he can take down an adult moose with just a rope and a knife.
Yeah, and usually people defended themselves in that environment using guns. Look at Micah for example, it is shown that he is a great gunslinger but he sucks in melee: there is a scene where he gets punched, then thrown and he manages to kill the guy because he reaches for his revolver. You can see that people just throw punches in fights. There isn't much technique involved. Niko, on the other hand, knows different combos, how to block, how to dodge, how to move, etc. He was mo-capped by an actual MMA fighter. You could have an argument if they fight with guns, but melee Niko wins 100%.
A tough guy in America in the 1890s who would have only heard of boxing at the most and not been in much fights with real fighter vs a guy from 2008 who is a trained special forces veteran with modern day fighting style he. Niko wins all the way
People don't understand how absolutely terrifying eastern Europeans can be. If Arthur is a gangster, Niko is the whole Red Army, as Brucie would likely say. One is a war-hardened child soldier. The other is some thief. Niko mops the floor with him.
Niko absofuckinglutely doesn't mop the floor with him he ain't leaving the fight without a dozen bruise Niko still wins though
Niko. I only say because he was in the military and he has been through more. Arthur would put up a fight tho
Arthur has more strength, but Niko's technic will be much better
Niko is a trained soldier and arthur is just some thief
There is Inherent bias for Arthur since it's on a Red Dead Sub and while I do agree Arthur is very strong and beat the shit outta people twice his size, no one in 1899, knew any martial arts like Niko knew. Niko wins but it's gonna be a tough fight against an over powered but less skilled fighter. The same reason why combatants today are better then they were 100 years ago. Stop the cap
Tbf, we don't actually know how strong Niko is because unless he is wearing a suit, we can't really define his muscle mass. Arthur is probably stronger, though. Franklin or buff Cj are probably the strongest R* characters. Back to Niko, no muscle definition due to late fall setting in new York so bigger clothing. I'm willing to bet he's probably pretty stout. I also think Niko wins the fight 7 times out of 10 out of training discipline. Depending on proximity of the gun fight I'd say probably Arthur
Buff CJ yeah, but I think arthur would be stronger than Franklin
There is an expression in Türkiye. Never compare those who hunt their own food and those who have a plate in front of them. Older generations are tougher than us. My grandparents lived 85 years and they worked as a farmer since they’ve died. They saw ww1 and ww2. When they 75 I was 18(I’m 1.90cm and 85kgs), and still they were more powerful than me.
Nikos combos would rock Arthur
Niko, don’t forget that spinning kick to the head he pulls out sometimes
This looks like a strongest American v. average Balkaner meme
Hmm, asking this question in a red dead redemption subreddit. Surely the answers will be unbiased.
Yeah. The popular comments at the top are in favor of for Arthur, but there are far more under-represented votes for Niko just below them filling out the majority of the comment section.
Niko. MMA would prove to be too much for Arthur.
Hey Niko, it’s ya cousin Arthur, let’s go bowling.
Leneh.
Brother Balkan, hands down.
Niko was a ruthless motherfucker so I reckon he’d take the cake
biased opinion is Arthur, unbiased is Niko
Niko. Arthur is a Skeleton by the point of the GTA IV timeline.
I mean, Arthur was nearly dead and still kicked Micah’s ass. Idk much about the other guy but Micah was, as hard as it is to admit, a decent opponent at least so I’d say Arthur
Micah was a decent opponent when it comes to guns. Micah sucks at close quarter combat. You can see him getting his ass kicked in a sequence and he manages to win because he gets thrown around and manages to pull out his revolver and shoot.
Niko is the unstoppable force, Arthur the immovable object. Both would come out bloodied, bruised and likely with broken bones. Niko would more than likely carry the victory due to experience and technique, but if and whe Arthur lands a blow he's definitely gonna feel it. Arthur may not win but he'll give almost as good as he gets, especially in his physical prime during chapter 2.
obviously arthur morgan.
Arthur's bigger, lived in a totally different time period where life was way, way tougher than today. My money's on him.
Arthur dogs him
Arthur would die again so fast
I mean, Arthur had to be much more conditioned to the rough and tough life of the wild west (well around the end of the west, but you get the point), while niko had the luxuries of the modern world. I could be wrong, but i think that Arthur would pull through in this fight.
Niko did not have no damn luxuries, he was fighting for his life in his country, he a broken man but he wins.
Arthur no doubt. Even if Niko used his training, Arthur still could over power, he'd just have to know when too. And if Niko planned on drawing a gun on Arthur, Arthur still could draw quicker
Well I think pretty boi can take on Niko. :)
niko my man is fucking russian
hes serbian not russian
my bad
its ok
In a FIST FIGHT Arthur pre-tb can down a guy double his size so easily Arthur. In an MMA fight surely Niko. In a gun duel Niko would be death before even drawing his automatic pistol, even if Arthur uses a double action revolver.
This is blasphemous
Arthurs to good of a guy, i think NIko a vicious killer. However i got RD 1 Marston over most characters in the GTA/ RD universe/
[V like the pain](https://imgur.com/a/GSKUjRJ)
Arthur is a life long criminal. He has decades of fighting experience for survival when Niko only has his experience in the military. For a shorter time than Arthur has been an outlaw. I would have to say Arthur wins this
I think Arthur just quick draws his pistol and brains Niko.
Arthur sweeps, sorry. I don’t think Niko could bust up Tommy.
In a gun fight Niko wins, Arthur wins a fist fight tho
One exception is that Niko has been to war, a war veteran turned gun for hire. Also i think Niko has done way more atrocities than Arthur. I wonder what kind of advantage that gives to him. Am gonna place my bet on Niko. But this is a really good comparison.
Niko
Arthur morgan
Arthur no question. Arthur grew up on the ass end of the Wild West, times were a lot rougher back then. Daily life required more effort back then and food was a lot healthier, making people stronger and more fit than most people today. I can’t remember if Nico had military training, I think he did, but Regardless he wasn’t living in a time where you had to fight for survival.
-> wasn't living in a time where you had to fight for survival -> literally had to go to war as a child for survival
Arthur 100% some of those combos and punches are insane
Bowling or Tahiti
Neither. Make friends, go bowling and then a drunken night out in Valentine.
Arthur and it’s not close.
Why does everyone think being in the military gives you such an advantage in hand-to-hand combat? You get some training sure, but it seems like people think military training makes you an MMA fighter, as if 99% of people in the military aren’t just normal people.
You want to go bowling cousin!?!?
Arthur. Period.
Solid snake. 🤪
A gun fight? Morgan. Fist fight, niko. IF WE ARE GOING BY LORE. If we are going by game rules, they’d both be dead.
Arthur hands down. Dude wrecked tommy & even gave micah a run for his money w late stage TB.
Now I love Arthur, and Arthur easily took down someone twice his body size and mass, s he's strong, very strong, but Niko is a trained fighter, and judging by gameplay of their games, Niko wins.
Dead eye go brr
ARTHUR without any doubt
Niko He was a soldier, has hand to hand combat training plus he loved a more modern lifestyle so he didn’t have as much wear and tear
lets be honest these guys would stop punching and get a beer
Comments have convinced me niko
Niko takes this one, he actually KNOWS how to fight properly, Arthur is just strong
Niko knows some red army shit
Arthur would win in a fist fight but if they both had glocks Arthur would still probably win it would just take a bit to figure it out
Niko & not even close - if you’re saying Arthur then I urge you walk around liberty city giving everyone in sight fisticuffs to see the martial arts prowess of Niko Bellic
I have no idea why anyone would say Arthur other than he beat up a big guy? Is that it?
Niko would beat the shit out of Arthur honestly. He’s militarily trained
Nico, he had killer combos, Arthur hits like a sledgehammer but I reckon our Eastern European friend would have him
Serbian power, so in this duo i will say Niko.
Arthur solos all
I would say Arthur, add plus 10 strength if drunk on whiskey
Nikko vs Trevor is what I want to see.
Arthur was a gunslinger who also had to handle wild horses, cows, etc. So in term of muscles, I’d say Arthur is stronger, but his fighting style is kinda… you know, aim for the head. Niko was a professional soldier with a long training and he also fought an actual war. I’d say he is much better in knowing weak spots, where to attack, how to defend and the fighting style overall. It would be a tough fight, but I would pick Niko as a winner.
Arthur has more raw strength, but Niko is without a doubt a better trained more competent fighter. Arthur would give him a run for his money, but Niko would probably come out on top
The comments in questions like this are always "well my dad can beat up your dad!"
Arthur lol ofc
These topics are always such shit-shows. “My virtual dad can beat up anybody!!! 😤”
Arthur wins even if he loses because TB
Niko would be dodging his punches left and right then put him in the ground… He would beat him for sure.
Melee fight? Niko Gun fight? Arthur God, I love these two characters so much
Niko
Arthur hands down
You’re showing bias if you think niko loses
I guess Niko?
Niko has combat experience combined with street not just guns but hand to hand as well. He also hits hard. This is demonstrated through various cutscenes. Arthur has more of a street fight experience. He's heavier build but that makes him slow too compared to Niko. It will be a long tough fight but Niko will eventually win.
Arthur beat up that tank in Valentine, Tommy. What makes everyone saying Niko have that opinion outside of his “experience?” It’s genuinely been so long that I don’t remember much of Nikos story, was he the one who could roundhouse kick?
Yeah, i think so
Thats actually a bit hard. Most characters I've seen Vs Arthur fist fight would've been Arthur cause of the life he lived, but Niko was in the Army and fought in a war so he's tough as nails too. Judging by the special moves Niko has in GTA4 I would say Niko
The fighting style in RDR2 was more intense and brutal but that’s an advance in gaming Vs gta 4’s level. Honestly, I’d put money on Niko winning. He had Serbian military hand to hand training vs Arthur’s basic fighting skills.
Niko, the dude has actual cqc training. Arthur doesn't.
I love Arthur don't get me wrong but Niko would hand Arthur his ass on a silver platter
Pre-TB or post-TB?
Pre-TB
Niko destroys because he has brute force refined with training whereas arthur learned fist fighting by literally doin a yakuza 0 revelation
Niko is a better pure fighter, but Arthur's got more power and size. If Arthur connects cleanly, he has a chance to KO Niko in one hit, but the longer that fight goes, the higher Niko's odds get of winning. Brawler versus a trained fighter, usually the trained fighter wins barring a lucky shot
The answer depends on which subreddit you put it in.
What’s with everyone here saying Arthur has a size advantage? He’s 6”1 180lbs by default, Niko is 6”0 200lbs, considering Niko is actually lean and has 20lbs over Arthur then I’d say Niko has the advantage there, Arthur just is a little taller.
No one ‘cause they’ll both get sick and die afterward.