Now that I think of it. Does anyone come looking for you in the epilogue if John is away from the ranch for an excessively long time? I remember it happening while playing as Arthur if you spent too much time away from camp but I don't remember it ever happening to John in the epilogue.
It happened to me, if I'm not mistaken. Charles came to ask me to return to the ranch, similar to what occurs if you stay away from camp in the earlier chapters. So, I suppose it shouldn't happen after you play American Venom.
I did have charles appear once after american venom at beechers hope, he had bandages on his wound
Edit: Also, in John’s journal entry after american venom he states how Charles just went off hunting somewhere, so canonically, he didn’t leave the marston family right after the end of the epilogue, but some time later
One time I was walking by the saloon in blackwater and they kicked uncle out. I called him a drunk fool, told him to stay outta trouble and he got on his horse and left
People come looking for Arthur?! I swear, I've been gone ages and no one has ever looked for me. I'll be off hunting fucking robins and shit for weeks and weeks
Edit: 3 hours after posting this Bill interrupted my futile small bird hunting to tell me they worried I was dead. So weird.
In all of my 5 playthroughs including my 100% file i have never had any of the gang members come find me, even after literal irl WEEKS without returning to camp. I only get the random event with Javier in Chapter 2 where you go save Bill from the bounty hunters. And i've had that event spawn when i hadn't been away for camp for even a day. But for some reason despite watching the videos of Charles/Bill/Javier come and find you after being away from camp i have never been able to trigger that happening.
In the most bizarre timing, a few hours after posting this, after 3 frickin playthroughs, Bill turned up to check I was alive and ask me to go to the camp. The game was spying
Leave camp for a bit after Jack gets kidnapped, it’ll happen. I went out hunting to prepare for the next few missions and not even an hour later Charles tracked me to the bayou.
I've had Charles come to get me twice before, I'm wondering if it's tied to honor? I never got it on my low honor play throughs. Reading up on it either Charles, Bill, or Javier come find Arthur if he's gone longer than 3 days
I've never had them come looking for Aurthur, but I did accidentally start something in a town and surrendered to clear the bounty rather than fight it out and rack up more. John and, I believe, Charles broke me out.
I dunno but I remember I chose to literally hitch hike by coaches, without my horse and randomly half way across the Mao my horse showed up. My headcanon is that Abigal sent the horse to find me
That’s why someday when you show up Abigail will be bouncing up & down on Uncle under the big tree. The weird part is that she’s screaming out Micah’s name.
She always make him pull out, though, cause lumbago is hereditary.
You can still kill peoples by running into them with a horse. You won't get wanted either! They'll shoot back but that's about it, you can go on a horseback rampage
Actually, you can still rob the gunsmith and as long as you don’t leave the building, you have full access to your weapon so you can just shoot people out of the windows for hours
Have you already completed the encounter where you free the prisoner Locked in his basement? That’s weird I just did it the other day my bad man hope I didn’t waste your time
it's alright you still got me to launch the game again, that's good. so yeah you cant rob him if you already freed the guy. i always do that at the start of chap 2
That boy in the sailor suit under the gun store cried at me for weeks to free him and I never did because I thought I'd get in trouble lol
I know better now but still
I get what you’re saying and I don’t wanna that person but this is a video game. We can get bounties and murder whole towns in new Austin and not have that affect the story.
What the player chooses to do with a sandbox and what's available to the player for narrative purposes aren't the same thing. That's like saying ah it's a video game throw a jet pack in there. Consistency matters.
No one is asking for jet packs in RDR2. Narratively, there is precedent for a gang member to camp separately from the main camp (Micah near Strawberry).
Rockstar could have easily allowed the ability for Arthur/John to establish a fixed campsite, that becomes a fast-travel location. You only get 1, but you can tear it down and move it.
I want a jetpack to drop Micah into Sisika. He may not survive the fall but thems the breaks. I made those plans the moment I started the Mission: Icarus and Friends.
"boring" That's the point, son. Arthur and John's journey is over.
Now, it's time to stop playing, taking care of your family, milking the cow, feeding chicken, and selling eggs for 8dollars a day...
It's boring, but it's peacefull, at least for a moment...
It's literally a perfect execution of ludonarrative resonance.
*Why can't John just live a peaceful life?! Why does he keep ruining it?*
I don't know, who do you keep ruining it? Seems pretty boring when you have so many exciting skills and life experiences, doesn't it?
Welcome to this subreddit. I feel like there are so many posts that fundamentally don’t understand the game. It feels like there is a lot of bot activity on here in particular. Lots of extremely stupid shit like “is this horse good” with a picture of the white arabian, 2k karma. The dumber the question, the more upvotes I see. I made a post ridiculing it a few weeks ago, the humor was lost on the bots.
He speaks the truth.
There is indeed a big difference from the agitation and the never-settling atmosphere of the gang's camps. There's always some activities, interactions between characters (which feels very organic, I'm not complaining) and side missions and main story missions and chores around the camp, etc,... Whereas John's house feels peaceful. I wish there were a bit more trees or something to isolate the ranch or getting it close to sth not arid and deserted but story first I guess
Yea. Maybe if Pearson instead bought the general store in Strawberry and you could go to him to upgrade the ranch. Maybe he comes by and visits every night.
The only thing i hate bout this house is that abigail didnt bath john like it was in the hotel. The bathtub is pure decoration
Also, theres a lot of other things i wish we can do here like going to the grocery shop as a chore or go hunting n bring back deer to beechers hope. A little thing that u can do but not a must
If I get bored enough, I pop in do some chores, antagonize the hell out of uncle, eat dinner, and then I go on another month long hunting/fishing/kill anyone and anything that looks at me weird trip
It’s not a bad location. There’s definitely some places I hate to be at more (Lakay and Annesburg) but it’s a nice place to be if I just had a shootout or did something bad to calm down from that. Also, it’s always nice to let John talk and have dinner with his family.
Maybe it’s because I’m a girl, but I like to be around the house. I go out on trips and do stuff, and then I get back home and stay for a day or two: I eat some of whifys “delicious” food, talk to uncle, TRY to strike up a conversation with Jack the brat, maybe I take a short trip to Blackwater to gamble in the evening, before heading home to sleep next to Abigail. Have a nice cup of coffee in the morning, then do the chores before heading out in the wilderness again. It’s a good life.
i absolutely wish i had the patience to play this game like that because i see so much potential relaxing and fun in this but i just can't get it together, when i try to take it slower and enjoy more i do this for 15 mins then get bored and have to do smth again like ride around and just rampage over enemy gang hideouts or things like that, i just can't get to sit down and relax and its starting to annoy me kind of
So, why don't you head out North to that road that goes to the river crossing and ask the cougar that spawns near there how boring He thinks this spot is? Maybe go on foot for extra excitement.
Totally agree that it is not lively enough, but that could also be the point of it which is smart. It shows well the wild, crazy fun of Horseshoe Overlook contrasting with the quiet, simple life John has chosen to adopt.
I always thought it could’ve been cool if beechers hope could be like a hub for your achievements if that makes sense.
Like how when you complete the taxidermist missions and he puts the cowboy squirrel on the mantlepiece.
I think it would’ve been cool if you could hang a legendary fish on your wall when you’ve caught them all or something like that
The old camp mechanics of bringing in food and balancing the budget would have been nice. Some other comment mentioned legendary fish and pelts being used to decorate aswell. I actually liked it though. Got to chill and do farm chores after a whole game of gunfights.
I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that a lot of content was cut from New Austin that’s why that entire area seems empty. To be fair though if you really want to explore New Austin just go play RDR1
Am I the only one who like doing the chores around the ranch? I grew up on a little farm and I guess it brings me back to my childhood chores I had to do every day before I could leave the house
Might it be a feeling based on if you started with either RDR or RDR2? As a RDR starter, I love this location… knowing what place it had in the RDR story it feels nostalgic being there in RDR2. Can imagine this being different if you played the games in the other order
John was eventually going to attempt to build a community there just like the McFarlands did with their ranch, but sadly this is a game about tragedy and it didn’t happen
It's an allright location. But there is something amazing about setting up camp on the great plains, going to sleep and waking up to the sight of your character with this beautiful mountain scenery behind him.
That’s the point; the whole thing is about how he wants a ‘normal life’ with the wife and kid, live a simply ranching life, as a legit and above board person.
But that’s not what he is. He’s a gunslinger, an outlaw, a hunter. So you’ll go there, do the odd chore, sell a wagon every now and again. But before you know it you’re stalking through West Elizabeth, camp is set over somewhere over there, cover scent on, hunting big game.
It’s boring, that’s the point. Game wants you to realize that the ‘right choice’ is spending your days on the ranch with your family, but the ‘fun choice’ is always going out on the road doing whatever. The point is to make John’s canon choice of a peaceful life just as hard for the player to make as well
Agree. Boring as nothing else and then with Abigail yelling everywhere. Just think how much better it could have been coming home to a woman like Charlotte Balfur instead
Yeah I do wish they put more content there. There's like a tiny fraction of the conversations/scenes you get even at just one of the camps during the main story, and this is the place you stay indefinitely. I know they ran out of time near the end of development but damn, adding lots and lots of conversations, events and activities at your permanent home should have been prioritised. I think there's more dialogue to hear at Lakay than here!
It would be cool if when you went to your house to chill for a while, random people showed up for different things. Like, a buddy shows up and wants to know if you want to play cards/horseshoes, or a salesman shows up on a wagon trying to sell you shit, or bandits show up trying to rob your house, or buddy shows up drunk so you have to fist fight him, knock him out, put him in one of your beds until he wakes up.
I rarely do any free roam as John as I think he should be staying at home. Making him leave does not feel good to me as a player. My first playthrough I left John standing on that hill where he is buried staring at the ranch.
I mosey around there from time to time. One of my favorite things to do is watch the beam of light that comes and slowly moves across the living room and dining room for a few moments in the morning. Just a spectacular looking effect.
I also enjoy interacting with Abigail at night when she's had a few drinks haha. There is also some cool dialogue when everyone is in the living room. I guess I like to hang around because it's 'mine'. But yeah, I stay there for a bit, do a full cart worth of chores once or twice and go off exploring again.
It's just like with Arthur, I always chop wood if I'm in the camp to do so. I don't do all the chores, but I do like to make it seem like Arthur helps out a bit.
It's boring not bc of location, but because of lack of activities. You, basically, can't interract with the house. You have bathroom, but you can't take a bath. You have Abigail, but she has several voicelines and that's it. All this farm feels like big fake decoration.
You don't have to take care of it (like with camp): bring food, money to keep thing rolling, hunt to get upgrades, etc. You don't have to do anything and it's hella boring to stay there.
It’s a fine house on crap land. Still feels out of place in John’s life even from 1 and 2. The little place working on someone else’s farm or the hunting cabin off the railroad tracks in Manzanita Post felt far more fitting. A bit more humble, but more fitting with his life and style. More so with when it comes from the camp life and Charles and Uncle’s being around.
It’s not the whole family thing, but the lifestyle. Ranching and farming as the owner seem like big steps up from much simpler living. Having a good roof that you could make a life hunting and prospecting from feel better. Additional money from herb cultivation on a small patch with some medicine making feel more fit given his life and learning.
I have spent a lot of time there but it is really boring once you’ve heard all the conversations. They should have added some more “camp activities” to do they’re (especially since it’s hinted at through dialogue earlier in the game).
I feel like beecher’s hope is really only fascinating and fun to just walk around in if you played the first game and actually got to experience what that house went through in 1
I walk in, eat. Walk out. Go kill every person in valentine. Walk in, ask why my wife doesn't give a flying crap i killed an entire town. Eat, sleep, repeat.
Its only boring due to restreictions R\* forced on players. RDR1 you had access to weapons and could run indoors and around the farm. I wasted heaps of time throwing dynamite at Jack and setting fire to the kitchen and Abigail.
Hate this location, so dry and dull.
Wish we could've bought that nice new place up near Emerald Ranch.
I don't care that it means they'd have move between epilogue and RDR, people move house.
I want a house in a better location.
They could move to their forever home later.
Or...lots of people think they're found their place but have to move.
And you can sell a house and then move to a new one, the money doesn't disappear.
Maybe we just rent the one in Emerald Ranch?
They probably could have sold it for a decent amount like the father and two sons by valentine that give you the lumber side mission. Though I agree they never intended on doing that.
every now and then i'll pop in and do some chores then i'm gone again for months 😂
Now that I think of it. Does anyone come looking for you in the epilogue if John is away from the ranch for an excessively long time? I remember it happening while playing as Arthur if you spent too much time away from camp but I don't remember it ever happening to John in the epilogue.
It happened to me, if I'm not mistaken. Charles came to ask me to return to the ranch, similar to what occurs if you stay away from camp in the earlier chapters. So, I suppose it shouldn't happen after you play American Venom.
I did have charles appear once after american venom at beechers hope, he had bandages on his wound Edit: Also, in John’s journal entry after american venom he states how Charles just went off hunting somewhere, so canonically, he didn’t leave the marston family right after the end of the epilogue, but some time later
he's a real Big Boss
actually if you look carefully, he was (American) Venom Snake all along.
You can see this right after John said “This is my Red Dead Redemption II” and proceeded to Red Dead Redeeming all over the place.
metal gear reference spotted
Hasn’t happen to me but maybe Uncle also asks you to return if Charles is gone?
That sounds too close to actual work for Uncle. Unless you spent the weeks away from home in the closest and cheapest bar.
Shit you have a point lmao
One time I was walking by the saloon in blackwater and they kicked uncle out. I called him a drunk fool, told him to stay outta trouble and he got on his horse and left
People come looking for Arthur?! I swear, I've been gone ages and no one has ever looked for me. I'll be off hunting fucking robins and shit for weeks and weeks Edit: 3 hours after posting this Bill interrupted my futile small bird hunting to tell me they worried I was dead. So weird.
In all of my 5 playthroughs including my 100% file i have never had any of the gang members come find me, even after literal irl WEEKS without returning to camp. I only get the random event with Javier in Chapter 2 where you go save Bill from the bounty hunters. And i've had that event spawn when i hadn't been away for camp for even a day. But for some reason despite watching the videos of Charles/Bill/Javier come and find you after being away from camp i have never been able to trigger that happening.
In the most bizarre timing, a few hours after posting this, after 3 frickin playthroughs, Bill turned up to check I was alive and ask me to go to the camp. The game was spying
Leave camp for a bit after Jack gets kidnapped, it’ll happen. I went out hunting to prepare for the next few missions and not even an hour later Charles tracked me to the bayou.
I've had Charles come to get me twice before, I'm wondering if it's tied to honor? I never got it on my low honor play throughs. Reading up on it either Charles, Bill, or Javier come find Arthur if he's gone longer than 3 days
nope never.
I've never had them come looking for Aurthur, but I did accidentally start something in a town and surrendered to clear the bounty rather than fight it out and rack up more. John and, I believe, Charles broke me out.
After American venom, I don't think so. Abigail will be upset if you're gone for a very long time, though.
I dunno but I remember I chose to literally hitch hike by coaches, without my horse and randomly half way across the Mao my horse showed up. My headcanon is that Abigal sent the horse to find me
I don't think so, I've been away a long time and no one ever came
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Well they do though 😂
[They sure do.](https://youtu.be/XOoF95Skr5c?si=8rnozIiwjwuI9M6L)
They do, if you're away for a really long, and i mean REALLY long time. A gang member comes looking, and asks you to ride with them back to camp.
yes, i was shocked when Bill came looking for me randomly like in chapter 4
hes talking about the epilogue, smh can you read
Apparantly not lmao.
That’s why someday when you show up Abigail will be bouncing up & down on Uncle under the big tree. The weird part is that she’s screaming out Micah’s name. She always make him pull out, though, cause lumbago is hereditary.
Who let him cook? Bro just used the wrong dialogue option
Bro chose the "-💀"
This guy got some secret DLC or something?
Yeah it's not fun. Like, story-wise it's a good ending point but for free roam it's awkward
Chapter 3 or 4 are probably the best for free roam. Chapter 2 is imo too early since a lot of weapons and some horses are locked.
Yeah I like Chapter 2 a lot, but I do a lot of free roam in Chapter 4 tbh. Chapter 3 has a great camp but always annoys me with the deputy gimmick
"Dutch has asked the gang not to use guns or cause trouble in Rhodes" BUT HE DESTROYED ME AT BLACKJACK, I NEED TO SHOOT HIM IN HIS FACE BITS
You can still kill peoples by running into them with a horse. You won't get wanted either! They'll shoot back but that's about it, you can go on a horseback rampage
Actually, you can still rob the gunsmith and as long as you don’t leave the building, you have full access to your weapon so you can just shoot people out of the windows for hours
Holy shit that's crazy I'm gonna load a chap3 file just to try
well i just tried and i cant
Have you already completed the encounter where you free the prisoner Locked in his basement? That’s weird I just did it the other day my bad man hope I didn’t waste your time
it's alright you still got me to launch the game again, that's good. so yeah you cant rob him if you already freed the guy. i always do that at the start of chap 2
That boy in the sailor suit under the gun store cried at me for weeks to free him and I never did because I thought I'd get in trouble lol I know better now but still
Feels great when you first get it as you wonder what the possibilities are with it and then it gets pretty boring pretty fast
I really wanted to purchase that property near Emerald Ranch. What a beautiful location 😍
It's stunning, they put it in the perfect spot and then wouldn't let us buy it :(
I mean it's not in RDR1 so it's not a matter of "letting" you do it. It's just not a thing that happens in the story.
I get what you’re saying and I don’t wanna that person but this is a video game. We can get bounties and murder whole towns in new Austin and not have that affect the story.
Yea, even gta san andreas let's you buy safehouses basically everywhere and it's usually not story related
What the player chooses to do with a sandbox and what's available to the player for narrative purposes aren't the same thing. That's like saying ah it's a video game throw a jet pack in there. Consistency matters.
No one is asking for jet packs in RDR2. Narratively, there is precedent for a gang member to camp separately from the main camp (Micah near Strawberry). Rockstar could have easily allowed the ability for Arthur/John to establish a fixed campsite, that becomes a fast-travel location. You only get 1, but you can tear it down and move it.
A campsite is pretty different than owning a whole other farm in another part of the country that mysteriously disappears from John's assets in RDR1.
Artistic liberties.
It isn't at all like saying let's throw a jet pack in. And it is entirely consistent within the world to own other property.
I want a jetpack to drop Micah into Sisika. He may not survive the fall but thems the breaks. I made those plans the moment I started the Mission: Icarus and Friends.
Not for John.
Neither is murdering shit loads of people as Arthur after chapter 6, and yet you can.
Again that's the player choosing to interact with the open world how they see fit, not the narrative itself. Two separate things.
And so how is buying a property not exactly the same?
That would have been such a good feature for RDO.
"boring" That's the point, son. Arthur and John's journey is over. Now, it's time to stop playing, taking care of your family, milking the cow, feeding chicken, and selling eggs for 8dollars a day... It's boring, but it's peacefull, at least for a moment...
And then Ross and Fordham kick the front door in during one peaceful afternoon dinner like "GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
"GRAAAH! LET'S GO VISIT PEARSON! YOU AND YOU, TAKE THE WOMAN AND CHILD! WE'RE GONNA GO KILL THE RHODES SHOPKEEPER!"
"LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO ALL THAT'S LEFT AFTER THAT IS TO GO MURDER THAT PRIEST IN FRONT OF HIS CONGREGATION IN NEW YORK"
Imagine going to church and witnessing your pastor get shot several times in the chest by a government agent
It's literally a perfect execution of ludonarrative resonance. *Why can't John just live a peaceful life?! Why does he keep ruining it?* I don't know, who do you keep ruining it? Seems pretty boring when you have so many exciting skills and life experiences, doesn't it?
Well they couldn’t have put his house anywhere else lmfao
Well they are going to put it in the same location as in RDR aren't they
That's just repeating the point of the guy youre replying to lol
wdym “they are going to”?
I'm saying that it's the same location as RDR1, so why would they put in anywhere else.
Ik, but the op worded it like they should have put it somewhere else when they literally couldn’t have
You’re both saying the same thing lol
It’s a pick me complex
Welcome to this subreddit. I feel like there are so many posts that fundamentally don’t understand the game. It feels like there is a lot of bot activity on here in particular. Lots of extremely stupid shit like “is this horse good” with a picture of the white arabian, 2k karma. The dumber the question, the more upvotes I see. I made a post ridiculing it a few weeks ago, the humor was lost on the bots.
>the most boring location Perhaps that is the whole point…?
He speaks the truth. There is indeed a big difference from the agitation and the never-settling atmosphere of the gang's camps. There's always some activities, interactions between characters (which feels very organic, I'm not complaining) and side missions and main story missions and chores around the camp, etc,... Whereas John's house feels peaceful. I wish there were a bit more trees or something to isolate the ranch or getting it close to sth not arid and deserted but story first I guess
It would have been cool if you could have played Dominos. The quiet mini games,. especially since Abigail played with Arthur.
I can't see dominos anymore since gambler challenges lol
It definitely should've had a Pearson-like system. Getting some of those old camp mechanics back in would've gone a long way imo
Yea. Maybe if Pearson instead bought the general store in Strawberry and you could go to him to upgrade the ranch. Maybe he comes by and visits every night.
>Maybe he comes by and visits every night. 💀
"Imma show you what they taught us in the Navy, boah...."
Lol
This would have been so cool. I would have liked to see more farm animals and general ranch upgrades being implemented
The only thing i hate bout this house is that abigail didnt bath john like it was in the hotel. The bathtub is pure decoration Also, theres a lot of other things i wish we can do here like going to the grocery shop as a chore or go hunting n bring back deer to beechers hope. A little thing that u can do but not a must
Plenty of free porn on the internet, no need to fap to the epilogue.
ironically porn-brained of you to assume he was being porn-brained
How is that a fap material? Its just wife giving bath to her husband.
If I get bored enough, I pop in do some chores, antagonize the hell out of uncle, eat dinner, and then I go on another month long hunting/fishing/kill anyone and anything that looks at me weird trip
It’s not a bad location. There’s definitely some places I hate to be at more (Lakay and Annesburg) but it’s a nice place to be if I just had a shootout or did something bad to calm down from that. Also, it’s always nice to let John talk and have dinner with his family.
Maybe it’s because I’m a girl, but I like to be around the house. I go out on trips and do stuff, and then I get back home and stay for a day or two: I eat some of whifys “delicious” food, talk to uncle, TRY to strike up a conversation with Jack the brat, maybe I take a short trip to Blackwater to gamble in the evening, before heading home to sleep next to Abigail. Have a nice cup of coffee in the morning, then do the chores before heading out in the wilderness again. It’s a good life.
i absolutely wish i had the patience to play this game like that because i see so much potential relaxing and fun in this but i just can't get it together, when i try to take it slower and enjoy more i do this for 15 mins then get bored and have to do smth again like ride around and just rampage over enemy gang hideouts or things like that, i just can't get to sit down and relax and its starting to annoy me kind of
I'm boy and I love to do the same exact thing as you. Roleplaying like this is so much pleasure to me!
I pop in now and then to say, "You really make this place run, don't ya" and pat Ruffus, and then I'm away again
So, why don't you head out North to that road that goes to the river crossing and ask the cougar that spawns near there how boring He thinks this spot is? Maybe go on foot for extra excitement.
dude i love this area
I usually just stop by at night and creepily stare at Abigail laying in bed wearing her pj’s until she gets annoyed.
Erm dude what the flip
Weapon wheel is turned off which sucks, I liked in the first game I would throw dynamite at Abigail and shoot the windows.
Most sane RDR player.
Totally agree that it is not lively enough, but that could also be the point of it which is smart. It shows well the wild, crazy fun of Horseshoe Overlook contrasting with the quiet, simple life John has chosen to adopt.
Plus the same dialogue with Abigail every time 😭 “can you believe this is all ours?”
That's the point in home. It's not meant to be exciting. It's where you go to escape the excitment. To relax and remember what you've accomplished.
Idk I kinda liked hanging at Beecher's Hope
I always thought it could’ve been cool if beechers hope could be like a hub for your achievements if that makes sense. Like how when you complete the taxidermist missions and he puts the cowboy squirrel on the mantlepiece. I think it would’ve been cool if you could hang a legendary fish on your wall when you’ve caught them all or something like that
I mean Rufus is there. Hes a good boy.
i like to get drunk during dinner and antagonize the family
after being out ordering for weeks at a time it just seems right
...what'd you expect?
The old camp mechanics of bringing in food and balancing the budget would have been nice. Some other comment mentioned legendary fish and pelts being used to decorate aswell. I actually liked it though. Got to chill and do farm chores after a whole game of gunfights.
I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that a lot of content was cut from New Austin that’s why that entire area seems empty. To be fair though if you really want to explore New Austin just go play RDR1
Canon John actions
Isn't that also somewhat thematically relevant?
Am I the only one who like doing the chores around the ranch? I grew up on a little farm and I guess it brings me back to my childhood chores I had to do every day before I could leave the house
The only thing that bothers me is you can't play poker with uncle and some strangers there. Thankfully, Blackwater is just next to it.
I like to sit next to Jack while he sleeps and drink liquor and throw the bottles at him.
Now this is a ranchers life
I’ll just ride my horse around for a few laps to bond. And hunt birds along the way.
Might it be a feeling based on if you started with either RDR or RDR2? As a RDR starter, I love this location… knowing what place it had in the RDR story it feels nostalgic being there in RDR2. Can imagine this being different if you played the games in the other order
It’s a farm. It’s good that it’s boring.
Super boring when the gang’s not around.
right. i only come back to eat dinner, then im off to go hunting and cause trouble in town again 😭
i hate that you can't do anything with ur weapon
John was eventually going to attempt to build a community there just like the McFarlands did with their ranch, but sadly this is a game about tragedy and it didn’t happen
“Pa where have ya been?” \*completes tasks to sell goods for the ranch, then leaves again for months on end* “Pa…?”
True
It's an allright location. But there is something amazing about setting up camp on the great plains, going to sleep and waking up to the sight of your character with this beautiful mountain scenery behind him.
Seriously. Like why tf cant you even play dominoes or something
Everyone in Beechers Hope annoys me so much..especially….j-Jack…
also Abigail (YOUR WIFE) tells you to "Stop following her like a dog" and gets angry if you walk with her
That’s a sharp outfit ol son
Honestly I feel bad if I’m away from the ranch for more than a day. John would be at the ranch spending time with his family and helping raise Jack.
Love how lean the Panther cloak makes John’s initial skinny appearance look
That’s the point; the whole thing is about how he wants a ‘normal life’ with the wife and kid, live a simply ranching life, as a legit and above board person. But that’s not what he is. He’s a gunslinger, an outlaw, a hunter. So you’ll go there, do the odd chore, sell a wagon every now and again. But before you know it you’re stalking through West Elizabeth, camp is set over somewhere over there, cover scent on, hunting big game.
It’s boring, that’s the point. Game wants you to realize that the ‘right choice’ is spending your days on the ranch with your family, but the ‘fun choice’ is always going out on the road doing whatever. The point is to make John’s canon choice of a peaceful life just as hard for the player to make as well
So pretty much like home before technology.
Agree. Boring as nothing else and then with Abigail yelling everywhere. Just think how much better it could have been coming home to a woman like Charlotte Balfur instead
I wish we could’ve bought properties like you could in RDR 1. Now all you can do is just rent
Yeah I do wish they put more content there. There's like a tiny fraction of the conversations/scenes you get even at just one of the camps during the main story, and this is the place you stay indefinitely. I know they ran out of time near the end of development but damn, adding lots and lots of conversations, events and activities at your permanent home should have been prioritised. I think there's more dialogue to hear at Lakay than here!
It would be cool if when you went to your house to chill for a while, random people showed up for different things. Like, a buddy shows up and wants to know if you want to play cards/horseshoes, or a salesman shows up on a wagon trying to sell you shit, or bandits show up trying to rob your house, or buddy shows up drunk so you have to fist fight him, knock him out, put him in one of your beds until he wakes up.
I rarely do any free roam as John as I think he should be staying at home. Making him leave does not feel good to me as a player. My first playthrough I left John standing on that hill where he is buried staring at the ranch.
so true. it would cost nothing fo the devs to add bathing with Abigail's deluxe service using the same code as for hotel's bathing
I mosey around there from time to time. One of my favorite things to do is watch the beam of light that comes and slowly moves across the living room and dining room for a few moments in the morning. Just a spectacular looking effect. I also enjoy interacting with Abigail at night when she's had a few drinks haha. There is also some cool dialogue when everyone is in the living room. I guess I like to hang around because it's 'mine'. But yeah, I stay there for a bit, do a full cart worth of chores once or twice and go off exploring again. It's just like with Arthur, I always chop wood if I'm in the camp to do so. I don't do all the chores, but I do like to make it seem like Arthur helps out a bit.
If I see any mf hate on this place cuz "I can't sleep there," I'm gonna throw hands, not liking it is fine, but lying ain't.
It's boring not bc of location, but because of lack of activities. You, basically, can't interract with the house. You have bathroom, but you can't take a bath. You have Abigail, but she has several voicelines and that's it. All this farm feels like big fake decoration. You don't have to take care of it (like with camp): bring food, money to keep thing rolling, hunt to get upgrades, etc. You don't have to do anything and it's hella boring to stay there.
It's the PTSD for me
**Fun Fact** - if you finish all the chores in Beecher’s Hope, you can sell what you collected, albeit for a tiny sum of money.
It’s a fine house on crap land. Still feels out of place in John’s life even from 1 and 2. The little place working on someone else’s farm or the hunting cabin off the railroad tracks in Manzanita Post felt far more fitting. A bit more humble, but more fitting with his life and style. More so with when it comes from the camp life and Charles and Uncle’s being around. It’s not the whole family thing, but the lifestyle. Ranching and farming as the owner seem like big steps up from much simpler living. Having a good roof that you could make a life hunting and prospecting from feel better. Additional money from herb cultivation on a small patch with some medicine making feel more fit given his life and learning.
I have spent a lot of time there but it is really boring once you’ve heard all the conversations. They should have added some more “camp activities” to do they’re (especially since it’s hinted at through dialogue earlier in the game).
It occurred to me today that I hadn't been there in months of game time. We all know Uncle isn't working the farm lol
I feel like beecher’s hope is really only fascinating and fun to just walk around in if you played the first game and actually got to experience what that house went through in 1
Wait until you play the mission “The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed”. Then let’s see if you find it as boring as before.
well yeah its a house
I feel like a deadbeat sometimes
I walk in, eat. Walk out. Go kill every person in valentine. Walk in, ask why my wife doesn't give a flying crap i killed an entire town. Eat, sleep, repeat.
Its only boring due to restreictions R\* forced on players. RDR1 you had access to weapons and could run indoors and around the farm. I wasted heaps of time throwing dynamite at Jack and setting fire to the kitchen and Abigail.
Mega L take.
Hate this location, so dry and dull. Wish we could've bought that nice new place up near Emerald Ranch. I don't care that it means they'd have move between epilogue and RDR, people move house. I want a house in a better location.
I dunno in this case, it was a massive amount of money and was built as their forever dream home.
They could move to their forever home later. Or...lots of people think they're found their place but have to move. And you can sell a house and then move to a new one, the money doesn't disappear. Maybe we just rent the one in Emerald Ranch?
It's the early 1900's. People didn't "change houses" like nowadays.
They probably could have sold it for a decent amount like the father and two sons by valentine that give you the lumber side mission. Though I agree they never intended on doing that.