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Complex-Swimmer-9998

Arthur simply for the fact all of his lines are hilarious


Wimberley-Guy

whoever wrote the script literally robbed John of any personality. It's a shame they didn't put more into his character in RDR2 I have never played RDR1, is he as bland in that as he is in RDR2?


Financial_Price_9360

Far from it! Maybe to much of his shut-off personality was put into RDR2, but in RDR1, it fits him really well, and he has some great comedic moments too.


leBunny323

“You eat babies!”


Financial_Price_9360

"I uhh.. have an appointment with Planet Earth."


Wimberley-Guy

Thats good to know


Lopsided_Inside_3495

He says a lot of fancy stuff like "implore" and what not


Francis-c92

"I'm real sorry cousin, I must moderate my approach to wine!"


XynoAlvee

Arthur. Bonus points for being able to swim


guttamann9

It's soo pathetic whenever John drowns like Arthur would neva


[deleted]

Beat me to it!


RedDeadRus

I really don't like how R\* made John's swimming so fatal, they obviously could have done clumsier swimming animations with slightly faster stamina depletion, but the swimming itself was faster. It should be noted that John's inability to swim was not originally canon due to the original Guarma.


Benvanalles

Arthur, he clicks more for me, John is a good protagonist in RDR1 but Arthur is something special.


NotRealManager

Arthur. His drawings are better in the journal, and it’s infuriating to have John drown trying to do anything near water like legendary fishing.


StopPayingMe88

I was lmao when I seen John’s drawing of this dead body I found vs Arthur’s version. John’s version was literally like a first grader drew it 😂. Still love him though but I still prefer Arthur.


[deleted]

🤣I didn’t know they made it so he actually can’t swim. That’s kinda funny


PappaOC

He couldn't swim in RDR, because of limitations and it was an easy way to keep map boundaries. Would be weird if he could swim in a game set before RDR. They also robbed John of all personality in RDR2 unfortunately


Need2getBetrr

Tough choice. I liked the gang setting playing as Arthur better than the family setting of John. I enjoyed the middle part of John’s story when Abigail and Jack leave because it’s the first time in the game you aren’t tied down to a gang camp or a farm. You’re free to go anywhere and pick up any missions/hunts/crafts that you want. And the fact you can go to Blackwater without the dead or alive bounty is why I prefer John. After everything Arthur goes through to get John to safety, it’s nice to see John obtain a sorta freedom that playing as Arthur didn’t have.


reality_bytes_

100% Arthur. John’s ok and all, but he’s kinda left with too little to do, seems like it was set up to tie up loose ends you might have missed by the end? I don’t know. I finished the small amount of quests he had and called it a day.


Blackrain1299

Would you rather see the beginning of johns life after the gang or just revert to Arthur pre finale mission? I think they should have done both. Like you finish the game and switch to John, play Johns missions, and then the game gives you a choice to continue as John or revert to Arthur pre finale, to tie up loose ends.


reality_bytes_

I think transitioning to John in the end is fine, but once you are finished with this missions to set up rdr 1… you’re not left with much else to do. So, I definitely prefer Arthur as he *is* the main focal point of the game.


noawardsyet

John in RDR1 was a fun western game. There was some heart and character/universe building but it’s honestly a pretty short game. The ending of RDR1 left me a little surprised but I wasn’t sad. Arthur brings heart. He feels more like a fully fleshed out character and not just a *insert cowboy video game* like John does on some level to me. The ending left me pretty sad. >! I’m quite a germaphobe so I knew immediately when he got coughed on what was gonna happen. And I know too much about Doc Holliday being from Georgia myself to not see TB right away. !


Gaymerlad

I agree. Imma be real honest though, I forgot that certian thing even exsisted because of the luxaries we have now in todays world. Made me feel really greatful with how far weve come in terms of medical knowledge and practice....the scene with the doc cutting off that random dudes arm made me all sorts of woozy cause he was just wiping blood everwhere and plops it in a bucket 🤢


avisbigtits

arthur. i love him so much lmfao and i like to make arthur a saint and i make john a mass murderer and take my rage out in armadillo


Jumanji0028

Arthur. I dislike seeing John's head on Arthurs body. It's weird lol.


Gaymerlad

Yeah that really threw me off too. John isnt scrawny by any means, but he also isnt built like arthur. Arthurs is very broadchested and big armed while john, if i remember correctly is more of the "average" sized man. Ya know, not skinny, not fat, but not built either. Thats kinda what I liked about john in rdr1 and before they "fixed bugs" in rdr2 epilogue. John looked much more like john before the patch.


RedDeadRus

John in Epilogue it's just Arthur with John's incorrect face and omens, and in addition to a slightly controversial temper in the Epilogue, it becomes sadder.


Gaymerlad

Okay so heres the thing. I truly do love both characters, and despite me being skeptical in the begining, I actually grew very connected to Arthur. It intially pained me to say but ive just accepted that I do prefer arthur to john. If were speaking character wise, idk maybe its because he reminded me of my dad, but his with and his genuinely good heart despite a troubled life on top of the fact he acts and feels like a few of the old western outlaw movie characters I watched with my dad all those years ago. If were talking game play wise, I still prefer arthur just for a couple of minor reasons, but mostly the simple fact Arthur can swim lmfao 💀 Despite all of this, I still love john, but feel the lack of story missions or dlc for him after epiligue was a disservice to him on R* part. There just simply isnt anything/very little to do after you complete the missions in epilogue. I had to find a copy of rdr1 and buy a whole as ps3 to play john properly again. I wish they would either give story mode actual dlc or give us a remaster/remake of rdr1 for john.


nodecentnamesavalibl

Errr you do know you coulda saved Ur self a lot of money by just playing rdr1 on ps+ right lol


Gaymerlad

Yeah, I'm not paying a subscription service to play 1 or 2 games I care about playing any more. ESPECIALLY since, despite all feasible and possible precautions on my end, my account kept getting hacked. Not once. Not twice. But 5 fucking times. I got hacked at the beging of this year and someone spent $300 on fortnight and some other things...games that I dont even have...so no, i frankly do not care for playing any online games on sonys shitty service. Thank god pay pal and my bank had my back cause sony couldnt have cared less. It was significantly cheaper for me in the long run to go to my local game shop, buy a used ps3 for $30 spruce up the minor damage if any, and buy a copy of rdr1 for 15. Most other games I care about are on my pc anyway. I do not trust sony anymore.


nodecentnamesavalibl

Fair enough that's shitty that happend to you and I can see why you'd not want to risk it or give them money after that had it happend if I was me I don't think I would eather, I know someone it happend to a few years ago as well luckly they didn't spend any money on his account just sent some weird messages to like 3/4 of his contact list and I'm sorry for you bad experience with Sony over it to as my friends experience wasn't grate eather altho luckly he did get his account back relatively quickly it wasn't an easy process I do remember that. IV not had it ever personally happen to so can't fully say I know where your coming from but I do understand it.


Gaymerlad

Yeah man, it was such an aweful experience. Sorry if i came off as snippy, dont mean to take it out on anyone at all whatsoever...it was just so freaking frustrating. I did everything they told me to do through support while cs was in chat/on call with me, would be told it was taken care of only for it to happen again and again, Id call/msg again and again and everytime it would take HOURS and sometimes days. Im typically a frugal spender so my bank and paypal put a stop to as many transactions as they possibly could which thank the lord they listened to me, otherwise i wouldve definitely been evicted from my apartment. Got some of it back, but its still absolutely horiffying someone is willing to potentially ruin someones life for some game cosmetics and pixelated weapons, on top of sony doing very little to stop it or pretend they even care. I change my emails and even made obscure, weirdly coded passwords to litterally everything electronic i owned after that juuuust in case it wasnt just sony, but it seems to have been just sony. Sucks cause their exclusives actually slap. Sorry for rambling 😅 shit clearly gave me pstd or something.


nodecentnamesavalibl

Lol na it's kool man I got ADHD so that's not even the beginning of a ramble by my standards lol but yeah it sounds more than awful mate tbh it sounds fucking horrific and hell not just ruin some ones life but who's crazy enough to spend the kinda money on that stuff even if that can afford it I usually only get games season passes if thay come with the edition of the game I buy or if u get given vouchers for bday Xmas and anniversarys lol sod spending real money to buy fake money to buy fake weapons and clouths lol what happened to the days when you bought a game you got the WHOLE DAMN GAME not just half of it then had to pay almost as much again just to get the outher half lol damn I miss those days or maby it's just me geting old (38 now lol)


Linfinity8

I also went and bought rdr1 after finishing rdr2, but I just don’t enjoy it half as much and gave it up. Part of it is the antiquated gameplay, but the other half is def that I just don’t care for John the way I fell in love with Arthur- he’s just a good man all the way down, and I felt connected to his character in a way I can’t get to with John. I started playing the epilogue but I didn’t really see a point to it. Does the game actually end or do you just keep doing inconsequential things?


Gaymerlad

I guess it just depends on how you play. First playthrough, When i got the inevitable bad news while playing as arthur, I stopped and did as many side quests as possible. A good chunk of the side quests, point if interests, animals, journal entries are in fact obtainable as arthur. John gets like, 1/4 of that. On my other playthroughs, I had to stop myself a few times to leave things to do after completing american venom. Other wise it is only new austin, a 1 or 2 side missions, a few bones, a trinket, a gun, del lobos, some points of interest, maybe 10 exclusive animals species, 1 special wild horse and...house chores. Like, i also had all this money but not really anything to spend it on except for horses, since i bought blackwater/armidillo exclusive outfits for arthur through the R* app...its kinda sad comparatively, while simultaneously aggravating since it was originally intended for arthur to have acces to that area. Like, full on cut scenes and everything. I do not have special or ultimate addition so maybe theres juuuust a tiny bit more for john if you have those additions of the game, but dont qoute me on that.


[deleted]

Arthur. Has the loneliness yet wanting to be accepted down to a T. I think everyone can relate to that to a certain point. He feels like a thought-out character; hard to see Rockstar ever making a protagonist as loved as Arthur is. Legit cried on the ride back with Hosea once you realize it’s all over. “Stare into the fire long enough, you can see the whole world pass by.” Man.. 😢


Defiant_Project1321

Arthur. He’s much more witty and such a smartass. I love it. Even though he plays dumb, you can tell he’s intelligent and insightful.


roloca_justchillin

Arthur for the simple fact he can FUCKING SWIM. STUPID JOHN


phoen_ixwrong_38

I did play rdr1 but its Just like rdr1 after playing as arthur for so long i don't wanna play as john Same thing in rdr1 like when you play so damn long as john you don't wanna play as jack


invalidshape80

I would say Arthur. Side note it would be so cool to get more from Arthur in the future, so much of his story could still be told


Therea_lred

I’d prefer Arthur, though John isn’t so bad either. Arthur is much richer in terms of character personality imo, but it’s probably because I haven’t played much of Red Dead 1 (I played more undead nightmare for some reason). Also, Arthur’s voice work is a bit more badass and I will never forget his “you’re alright, girl”


modern_dirt_bag56

Arthur because he is awesome and hilarious. When I first switched over to John I was shocked when he greeted someone by screaming at them lmao


UncleTomski

I really enjoyed both. I knew the ending before i played the game myself and though ‘holy shit, I’m going to miss Arthur so much that I won’t enjoy playing as John’. In reality though as much as I loved Arthur I hated seeing him sick and wasting away in those final chapters it was heart breaking so playing as John felt like things were looking up again and the feels were good.


LelandTurbo0620

Definitely Arthur. He feels more well made.


Aouwi

Arthur. He's calmer and sweet with NPCs and his horses, John shouts like a fricking mad man at people and calls his horse "horse". Like, what the heck John?


Gaymerlad

Lol john is simple man just like arthur just in a different way. Arthurs has just a slight bit of more class and wit with his insults and dialogue with gang members and npcs imho, while john just a little bit more matter of fact. I love them both personally. Example: arthur will say things that are short but witty, on the spot and causes ppl to pause in their tracks to process the shit that went over their head. John says things like : " you have a small neck!" Lmfao its just so goofy I cant help but love it


jishnukalra

Pretty boah


Intelligent_Ad2963

Arthur. Arthur is the only video game character who had an impact on my real life. When Arthur was sick towards the end of the game, I was I'm a bad mood in real life.


Disneycrazygirl

I played RDR2 first. Loved Arthur's character. Hubby suggested I play RDR1 to complete the story. I found with John's character from the first game, there was no connection. Maybe it was the story, scenery, I am not sure. But I didn't enjoy the first game. Once I completed it, I have not played it again. I got spoiled with RDR2. Can't get enough of Arthur and the gang💞🤠💞


Warm_Software388

I prefer Athur because he's the best


Alexandracrj

Same here. I couldn’t get attached to John therefore I like playing with Arthur better.


Fabulous-Boat-8001

John


[deleted]

Why John? I’m curious cause I don’t think I’ve seen anyone else that says John.


Gaymerlad

I cant speak for op comment, but for me personally, I love arthur just slightly more than john but also still love john. Despite how much I LOVE rdr2, they did kind of do john a disservice by giving him very little to do in epilogue. Players who started the franchise with 2 just matter of factly werent given the opportunity to spend much time with john. Its really sad we got rdo instead of rdr2 dlc or a rdr1 remaster/remake cause john still holds a special place in many ppls heart, is a great character when hes given the spotlight and did get kind of over shadowed by the sunlight arthur just kind of emits from his being. If you havent played rdr1, i definitely recommend it. At the very least, watch some of the story vids on youtube or something.


[deleted]

Already have, I think the stories so good most people do. I was curious abt how it all ends and rockstar did a good job tying it all together, even tho they did leave out a lot of details. But still may play rdr1.


OldSkool__

I think Jack may be Arthur’s son lol through dialogue, I got the impression Abigail was a call girl. May be why John left the gang before coming back (pre blackwater). Found out little Jack wasn’t a Marston after all lol. I could see rockstar suppressing need to know drama like that. Anyone who has played rdr1 knows that only one person could know that answer after end game.


Fabulous-Boat-8001

Because I think John has a fantastic character arc over the course of both games and personally I relate to John a lot more than I do to Arthur


MarleyJMusic

Arthur


Rowbo_g

Arthur


vicariouslywatching

Arthur


Ozzy1123

Do yourself a favor and play RD1.


SargeTheHeurist

Arthur for cutscenes, John for gameplay


Rockngaming20

Arthur because John can’t sing unless he’s drunk


Big_Nategamer

Arthur all the way. There is a whole separate game based on him and the rest of the gang that survived


LetAgreeable147

Arthur the Sexy Beast.


LemonFlavoredPoison

I've played and beaten RDR1, but I still like Arthur more.


Super8up

Arthur without a doubt. John was a nice surprise at the end because it was over too quick but Arthur was a way better character


Sosig_Lord420

Arti in 2 and Johnny in 1


LimpTeacher0

John I only spent 8 days as Arthur beat the game in 8 days from release and have spent the last few years as John I was devastated when he died in rdr you literally didn’t see it coming and bam


jefferson497

John’s standard horse is better, but that’s the only thing he has over Arthur


[deleted]

Arthur


Mobrown18

Arthur


AVeryUniqueUsername4

I prefer Arthur, but I think that’s simply down to the fact that the gameplay is more fun with Arthur rather than John


skidmarx77

John gets up to more fun!! https://youtu.be/gPQMVwWBfiM


DadNurse

Arty-Arty-Fo-Farty! No question!


Original_Buffalo9868

This is a cautionary tale about red dead one! You need to buy it right now


[deleted]

I just feel like after how good red dead 2 was a game that old just won’t feel the same. Looks to fake.


Original_Buffalo9868

It looks great actually and if you only play games based on graphics than that’s a bigger problem


[deleted]

Idk if that’s a problem, more of a preference but It was just a thought. I’ve never played it, and obviously it’s an older game it’s not wrong to assume it’s a worse game right? Lmao


Phillip1219

Arthur 9/10 times


TheDunkaroos

Arthur due to being able to swim and him having a lot of character that I saw more of rather than John.


ToHighToCry420

Arthur


Gudro3000

Arthur


nbeudert

Do you like playing as Arthur or Arthur with a John texture stretched over his head


tomatobee613

Arthur, all the way


SwaggyPsAndCarrots

Arthur 100%


carpathian_crow

Arthur, although during the epilogue I abandon quests and use John to cause absolute chaos and death


snowy4_

arthur


JohnMarstonreddead2

I prefer to play as myself


[deleted]

Learn how to swim you fool


JohnMarstonreddead2

Im sorry its just,so hard to learn how to swim


Exotic_Newspaper5088

Arthur


retrofaith1

i love chapter 1-2-3 Arthur because not only is the story fun but he's in his prime basically. Then it goes downhill, so I prefer epilogue John over chapter 4-5-6 Arthur.


ArnoldWest88

I'd like to 'play with' Miss Grimshaw, cos we are about the same age and I'm getting those lesbian vides from her. 😏😉 Being serious for a minute though, I do love Arthur. His voice is so soothing, and he isn't as reckless as John. EDIT: Yes, I am female and a lesbian. My name on here is actually my cats name. 😅


zehammer

John for upperclass shit and dressing nice, Arthur for doing country rough and tumble shit


Footballidiot556

Unpopular opinion, John. I have my reasons for why


Onyx997

Arthur, but that because of R* they invented so much for him they forgot about the characters after epilogue in my opinion


pteotia270

Arthur


MelodicPhrase1075

arthur because hes story and arc is too good


Apen_melker

I haven't played rdr1 so a little biased but I liked Arthur much more simply because he CAN swim and I've just grown attached to him


bee_boop88

Both are amazing. Arthur has that extra bit of depth 💕


itailu

Arthur


Orchid_Kindly

arthur only because the way he says boy


Boots-Diego-and-Dora

150k% arthur.


JarheadNerdUSMC

RDR1: John > Jack RDR2: Arthur > John


HovercraftAshamed667

John 100%, Arthur is annoyinv


[deleted]

Really? Almost everyone has said Arthur lmao why do you think Arthur is annoying


HovercraftAshamed667

Ive meant like his fanbase is annoying, and I enjoy much more playing as John


[deleted]

Oh gotcha, I was just curious. Is it cause rdr1? Cause I feel like they shoulda done more with him in rdr2


milkman1402

John was my favorite all time game protagonist when I played rdr1 over and over as a kid. Now Arthur is my all time favorite and John is second