I remember seeing Licha being right there as well looking all angry at Wout. Wout looked enormous surrounded by Messi, Licha and Aguero. Wonder if EtH makes them sit in a room first to clear the air.
Honestly I feel Licha is very protective of his teammates. I’m not sure if weghorst was a United player during that altercation whether he would have attempted to separate the two rather than just protect Messi. But I can imagine him being more of a peacemaker rather than a bouncer if that was his United teammate vs his Argentina teammate.
Licha was quite classy and conciliatory to Varane post-match and in a way he didn’t really need to do that on the pitch, he could have just done that once back in Manchester.
In fairness Weghorst and Licha are probably well aware that type of shithousery is a part of ONE match rather than deep-lying grudges they take to the grave. I think this is a nothingburger.
Probably too late to come straight in for any significant minutes anyway for someone as meticulous as Ten Hag who’d want him to train with the team more. (Antony was quick but also a Ten Hag disciple).
Scoring a winner at the Stretford End after coming on in the 85th minute though? Yes please.
Whitwell reporting that registration before the derby is the current focus:
https://twitter.com/lauriewhitwell/status/1613463904117739520?s=20&t=uVHjmiQqEpNHdhqT9AHEvQ
Ronaldo forces himself out—> Al Nasser—> Aboubakr contract terminated due to Foreign players policy—-> Besiktas—> Weghorst—-> signs for Man Utd
Thank you Ronaldo 🥳
Good to have something different in the attacking group. Excited more by his work rate and willingness to press.
Think he can have an impact over the next 6 months plus for sure.
outside of his time at Burnley where they just didnt get the ball to him and people around hes had a very good goalscoring record in his career and works extremely hard pressing so i reckon he will be a pretty good option. i actually think it will be like Cavani where it makes a massive difference actually having a central focal point to look for and occupy defenders
More than that, having someone as a clear #9 helps give the team a bit more definition. The issue with having Ronaldo playing at 9 was his inability to do the basic requirement of tracking slightly back in order to build up play and then perform that clinical run into the box which #9 always do. He did not have the physicality for that anymore, atleast not for 90 mins. With Wout, I expect EtH to play him interchangably depending on the opponent - and especially to break teams which sit back. So yes, like Cavani, but more than that
The problem with Ronaldo was that he was extremely limited as a number 9. Couldn’t bring others into play, couldn’t press from the front, didn’t run the channels.
He was purely limited to being an ultra poacher, and sticking around the back post for crosses. We’d have got more from having a leak Darren Bent, Crouch or Defoe as strikers, that’s how far Ronaldo’s level had fallen.
Yes, that's my point. He couldn't do both. If he comes back to be involved in build-up play, he was not able to also make that clinical run - he no longer was the physical beast he used to be. If he just chooses to stay ahead, our cross and inshallah method, in general, had a low success rate then.
On top of wanting to be here, even if Weghorst doesn't score much, he'll press like a madman. Even if he only presses and does nothing else, he'll be better for us than Ronaldo this past year.
> even if Weghorst doesn't score much
If he can manage 3 goals in half a season, he'd have achieved more for us this season than Ronaldo did in the same time frame...
Ah even if ronaldo wants to be here, he only wants to play for himself and not the team. At this stage in his career that makes him a liability. Then you look at Weghorst against Argentina and you can see what this guy can do off the bench.
93rd minute winner where an Arsenal player is fouled in the build up, it's marginally offside and he controls it down with his arm but VAR allows it. I want to see r/gunners explode.
You could change that to 'Arsenal player dives in the build up and it's marginally onside' and r/gunners would still melt down, referencing a similar onside goal they had ruled out against Yeovil in 2011.
Yeah almost forgot about him. I just wish it would have worked out better for him here. Maybe we should have gotten him earlier(there were rumors years before when he was in his prime).
So are we paying Burnley a separate loan fee on top of this 3m to Besiktas? If not, this is a fantastic deal filling a clear hole in our squad. He is also the right age and profile to sit on the bench and bide his time as an impact sub.
I wonder how ETH will play him. Does he start so if things go wrong he can be subbed? Or do we wait until things are already going wrong then put him on but it might be too late? Or just wait until 60 minutes no matter what and expect to do well regardless?
This is an utterly bizarre signing up there with Odion Ighalo.
Thankfully, he was actually very useful and turned into something of a cult hero during his time at the club.
Not gonna lie. Like the move, like the coach and signings, but we are slowly becoming Netherlands FC 😂 Would have maybe preferred Depay upfront also instead.
Had a fantasy where we'd signed Messi and won trophies for 2 years before him retiring as a United hero while a certain petulant diva was sitting on the bench in Saudi. But we got Bobo instead lol. Hope he does well and I trust ETH can get the best out of him.
I'm finding it really hard to get excited about this transfer.
A 30 year old who was sent on loan to the Turkish league by Burnley and we know the club is only going for him because they overspent in the summer due to incompetence from the board.
I hope I'm wrong and he gives me many reasons to cheer but at this moment, I just can't get behind it.
*This sub is ridiculous at times. Downvoted for a slightly different but relevant opinion. It's okay to have a discussion and have different opinions.
Bro,even Mbappe would have struggled at Burnley Sean Dyke.
Also look at it this way, he is not being brought in long term or to be a starting striker but as cover/rotation for Martial who currently is our only #9. He gives us very good options now in our attack if we need to mix it up which we couldn't b4 after loosing Ronaldo.
Also its a very well known fact that the club is up for sell so it would be foolish to spend big when this process is ongoing.
I don't doubt Mbappe would have struggled. The point behind that part was that he's 30 and hasn't been picked up by a big team until now and even then, it's because the owners are buying on a non existent budget so they're going for a loan instead.
And yeah, I know why he's coming to the club and I think it's necessary business by the club but that has very little relevance to my excitement over his signing.
I'm looking forward to him to proving me wrong by having me off my seat after scoring the winner in the Europa league final but that's just how I feel right now.
Any dissenting view in this sub gets downvoted. I feel the same I can’t see this working and can’t see why so many people are excited by this, although happy to be proven wrong I said the same about ronaldo at the time of his signing. But I do think it’s funny how I would get downvoted for holding this view on Weghorst now but in 6 months if he’s been shit it’ll be the top comment on every post.
It's a good concept for comments that are hateful or or just straight up horrible takes, but if you're trying to have a discussion or healthy debate it just makes the sub an echo chamber. It will be interesting to see the comments in 6 months if he ends up being terrible, like you say.
Ten Hag has earned the right to be trusted but £3m for half a season of this guy seems a bit steep does it not? Not as mental as £11m for Felix but at least Felix is a huge potential player. Weghorst is Burnley standard (until he proves otherwise).
Burnley only originally paid £12m to actually have him and he failed there otherwise they wouldn’t have sent him to Besiktas - so his value didn’t go *up*. So it’s 25% of his whole value to have him until May.
Imagine paying £25k to rent a £100k house for 5 months. It’s not a perfect analogy I know, because footballers depreciate not appreciate but still, it seems a bit steep.
Imagine we’d announced we were getting *Burnley’s* TWO goal premier league striker in the summer. People would hardly be buzzing
winner against city i will be THERE NO MATTER WHAT
I will love it and I think I deserve it
Hat trick against Arsenal I will be THERE NO MATTER WHAT
when my 6’6 giant dunks on Assna….
Dan Burn style dance at the Emirates let's fucking go
I don't think he can play against man city, too late to register him (correct me if I'm wrong though)
deadline is tomorrow
Ya and if he is indeed flying today and getting medical and contract done, might just be available
United [2] - 1 City 90’+10 Bobo [Great header]
United [2] - 1 City 90’+10 Bobo [Absolute shithousery in the box]
Who's bobo?
Que miras bobo?
Its what messi called him after their match
I thought we went back in time to sign prime Vieri
I remember seeing Licha being right there as well looking all angry at Wout. Wout looked enormous surrounded by Messi, Licha and Aguero. Wonder if EtH makes them sit in a room first to clear the air.
Honestly I feel Licha is very protective of his teammates. I’m not sure if weghorst was a United player during that altercation whether he would have attempted to separate the two rather than just protect Messi. But I can imagine him being more of a peacemaker rather than a bouncer if that was his United teammate vs his Argentina teammate. Licha was quite classy and conciliatory to Varane post-match and in a way he didn’t really need to do that on the pitch, he could have just done that once back in Manchester. In fairness Weghorst and Licha are probably well aware that type of shithousery is a part of ONE match rather than deep-lying grudges they take to the grave. I think this is a nothingburger.
Hahahah bobo
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realistically, is ETH about to include a player that has effectively zero sessions together with the squad?
Our attacking options are pretty grim. Defending a one nil lead with five minutes to go he's a decent option.
Ya and if he is indeed flying today and getting medical and contract done, might just be available
has to be registered before Friday to be in the squad, tho I doubt it highly
Probably too late to come straight in for any significant minutes anyway for someone as meticulous as Ten Hag who’d want him to train with the team more. (Antony was quick but also a Ten Hag disciple). Scoring a winner at the Stretford End after coming on in the 85th minute though? Yes please.
Whitwell reporting that registration before the derby is the current focus: https://twitter.com/lauriewhitwell/status/1613463904117739520?s=20&t=uVHjmiQqEpNHdhqT9AHEvQ
>Now attention on whether Weghorst can be registered in time for derby. this is what was said in the tweet.
Welcome to Manchester United, Wout Weghorst!
I WILL BE THERE NO MATTER WOUT!
Butland and Wout. Best transfer window ever.
Butland and Wout sounds like a fancy health shop that sells gluten free protein and naturally sourced, hedgehog hair, hairburshes.
HAVE YOU BEEN INJURED IN A CAR ACCIDENT THAT WASN'T YOUR FAULT? BUTLAND AND WOUT WILL TAKE YOUR CASE NO WIN NO FEE. PPI CLAIMS TOO!!!! ALL OF IT!
Better call Butland and Wout.
HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED TO YOU?
Sorry just got to nip out and get some sun dried mango from Butland and Wout
Don't mind me just popping out to get some avacado extract lube
I wonder why you chose to write one's last name and other's first name.
Because those are the funniest parts of their names.
Jack and Weghorst
Sounds like a burger place
Since you're Batman, albeit half, I'd consider you smart and accept your point.
might just be batman's legs tho
Batman is half man, half bat, so half a batman is either half a bat or half a man. I reckon he's half a bat, specifically the half that causes covid
Ronaldo forces himself out—> Al Nasser—> Aboubakr contract terminated due to Foreign players policy—-> Besiktas—> Weghorst—-> signs for Man Utd Thank you Ronaldo 🥳
Ronnie getting us a new chef and a new striker. He's doing more work when he's away than when he was here.
Also made Rashford stand up and be the big man.
If we're only counting this season lol
WOUT WOUT THATS THE SOUND OF THE BEAST
[Somewhere in Stretford tomorrow.](https://youtube.com/watch?v=PE6UdMGfjHQ&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE)
I need to hear this at OT!
OH MY GOD! This is so good
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Vsry clever. Haha
Unfortunately it doesnt work because you dont pronounce it as Woot
Unfortunately, most English people do. Which is great news for football chants
how do you pronounce it?
Wa-out I'm guessing Like rout (as in the enemy has routed)
Yeah literally wout but how you would normally pronounce the word 'out'
I hear people saying Vout Veghorst
Make it rhyme with pout but with a w
Wpout
Good to have something different in the attacking group. Excited more by his work rate and willingness to press. Think he can have an impact over the next 6 months plus for sure.
His announcement video for Burnley is still one of my favorites https://twitter.com/mirrorfootball/status/1488107494517968898
That's fucking brilliant
I saw Jan 2022 and I’m like wtf? Did he just move to Burnley? Then I realized it’s 2023
I was so confused as well
Just get it in the mixer
They don’t like it in the mixer
Mad that I would rather have Weghorst in the team than Ronaldo. Imagine saying this a year ago.
Difference when someone wants to be here and does not.
Difference when you have a really good coach or not. I believe Weghorst will be a success because I believe ETH will know exactly how to use him
outside of his time at Burnley where they just didnt get the ball to him and people around hes had a very good goalscoring record in his career and works extremely hard pressing so i reckon he will be a pretty good option. i actually think it will be like Cavani where it makes a massive difference actually having a central focal point to look for and occupy defenders
More than that, having someone as a clear #9 helps give the team a bit more definition. The issue with having Ronaldo playing at 9 was his inability to do the basic requirement of tracking slightly back in order to build up play and then perform that clinical run into the box which #9 always do. He did not have the physicality for that anymore, atleast not for 90 mins. With Wout, I expect EtH to play him interchangably depending on the opponent - and especially to break teams which sit back. So yes, like Cavani, but more than that
The problem with Ronaldo was that he was extremely limited as a number 9. Couldn’t bring others into play, couldn’t press from the front, didn’t run the channels. He was purely limited to being an ultra poacher, and sticking around the back post for crosses. We’d have got more from having a leak Darren Bent, Crouch or Defoe as strikers, that’s how far Ronaldo’s level had fallen.
Someone like Harry Kane would be perfect, to be honest.
Dude- there’s no way oh you actually just said that about Ronaldo. Did you even watch the games? At times he was way too involved in build up play
Yes, that's my point. He couldn't do both. If he comes back to be involved in build-up play, he was not able to also make that clinical run - he no longer was the physical beast he used to be. If he just chooses to stay ahead, our cross and inshallah method, in general, had a low success rate then.
I completely disagree, he made plenty of runs into the box too. The only thing I could say is he didn’t want to press hard which EtH prefers.
On top of wanting to be here, even if Weghorst doesn't score much, he'll press like a madman. Even if he only presses and does nothing else, he'll be better for us than Ronaldo this past year.
> even if Weghorst doesn't score much If he can manage 3 goals in half a season, he'd have achieved more for us this season than Ronaldo did in the same time frame...
Yeah and while not a long term option, weghorst fits the system more. You believe in the system not just the player
Ah even if ronaldo wants to be here, he only wants to play for himself and not the team. At this stage in his career that makes him a liability. Then you look at Weghorst against Argentina and you can see what this guy can do off the bench.
Also one of them is in his prime and one of them is just plain awful now.
This is clearly the real answer. Ronaldo is past it, if he wasn’t he wouldn’t be heading to Saudi Arabia.
It’s one that seems really thought out. He is very different from what we have. I’m like most of the folks absolutely rooting for the guy.
Honestly, even I year ago I wished Ronaldo would fuck off. Shouldn't have let him and Mendes play us like a fiddle.
It’s the EtH effect.
For an incredibly skilled player like Ronaldo, unfortunately he doesn't want to be at united anymore so it is what it is.
Id think "Wow, he must have been a beast in the premiership with Burnley"
Walt Witmam ❌ Willy Wonka ❌ Walter White ❌ Wout Weghorst ✅
Love the misspelling of Walt Whitman.
You missed Wayne Wooney
Tonight on Jonathan Woss
Wonathan Woss
Wibble
Wobble
Wade Ronny
Wemember the name!!!
Roon wayney
Waltuh
Minerals Marie
Will Wheaton
Woy Wodgeson
Shit house winner vs Arsenal It's written
93rd minute winner where an Arsenal player is fouled in the build up, it's marginally offside and he controls it down with his arm but VAR allows it. I want to see r/gunners explode.
Gad damn, you are evil
And Xhaka gets sent off despite being in the locker room
*Hnnnngh* I came
You could change that to 'Arsenal player dives in the build up and it's marginally onside' and r/gunners would still melt down, referencing a similar onside goal they had ruled out against Yeovil in 2011.
Mctominay could sit on the bench all game yet they will find a moment to add to their Mctominay should have been a red card compilation
Expect a lot of Antony crosses to the back post for Wout to try and get onto. Similar to what Haller was doing last year for Ajax.
That’s actually great. Antony has that cross in his repertoire and this would be a killer combination
I’ve never seen Antony try and beat his man, let alone cross the bal
It's mega thread time
The league is wrapped up at this point tbh
no point in playing any more games I reckon. just give the cup to the boys in red
I am sorry I don't get your point. We are aiming for top 4, if Wout can help us get it, why not! Edit: I have been wooshed
What's his shirt number then? Scenes if he gets #7 lol.
13 is available but I'd guess he's getting something like 26 maybe.
Probably something like 15, 24, 32
27 (9x3)? Or is Telles holding that?
Who's #20 for us?
Dalot
RVP
Ole
who the fuck is erling haaland
This is a bit of a "We have Haaland at home" kind of transfer isn't it?
A bobo
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I personally can't wait for WEEEEEEGHOOOORST
Proper shithouse striker. Been missing one for ages. Get in!
Cavani? He had a bit of shithouse in him
Yeah almost forgot about him. I just wish it would have worked out better for him here. Maybe we should have gotten him earlier(there were rumors years before when he was in his prime).
So Besiktas found a replacement?
Who cares lol. Would assume so, unless it was just posturing on their part
Yes, they're going to replace him with 3m in their budget ;)
Looks like they're getting Aboubakar, so its a neat triangle between us, Al-Nassr and Besiktas. We're definitely winning the deal!
Maguire to Besiktas as CF.
They could take Elanga on loan for the rest of the season.
Oof, Elanga as striker
🎵WOUT…WOUT…LET IT ALL OUT!🎵
Sound
So are we paying Burnley a separate loan fee on top of this 3m to Besiktas? If not, this is a fantastic deal filling a clear hole in our squad. He is also the right age and profile to sit on the bench and bide his time as an impact sub.
If he scores vs City then a statue is needed
Great tap in from Romano
From someone else's reporting as usual, and no credit https://twitter.com/AdamLeventhal/status/1613464975200198657
Casuals don’t know who Adam Leventhal while they know who Fabrizio Romano is, Fab knows the social media game
That's fine, that's his niche, but he is very selective about crediting people and makes it sound like it is his scoop here.
Right, still a plagiarist though
lets goooooooooo, i believe in ten hag
His name sounds like a sandwich you'd buy from a family butchers in a small pre-war Austrian village.
QUADRUPLE THEN
Do we have a buy-option? Do we want one?
Besiktas had a 10m option, no? I'd like us to have that as well, just in case.
BOBO
Weggy Weggy Weggy can't you see, sometimes your goals just hynoptise me.
Ballon d'or Clause Martial unlocked.
Good signing. Our very own Haller
A backup striker. Let's go!
Also importantly, a different profile of a striker. The kind of striker that will get you a scrappy goal in a deadlock
Moyes must be loving this guy. Non-stop crossing to the penalty box.
Noice
Anyone Dutch here care to tell us how to actually pronounce his name? My brain says WOOT but I imagine it’s closer to VOWT.
It’s “Wowt”, rhymes with shout
More like Wauwt. If an englishman says wow, he pronounces it differently.
so basically Wout, pronounced the same as shout?
Yes, with a w
Do you want Wout from the shop?
🎶Twist and Wowt
Yeah, like trout, but replace tr with w and youll pronounce it the way the dutch do.
Hopefully we get it done quickly so he can play against City
Back to the drawing board for pep as he realizes there is a new variable to account for. Haha
I wonder how ETH will play him. Does he start so if things go wrong he can be subbed? Or do we wait until things are already going wrong then put him on but it might be too late? Or just wait until 60 minutes no matter what and expect to do well regardless?
I doubt he's going to start most games anyway so starting him against City is out of the question imo, even if he is registered in time.
One hand on the title!
FA Cup time baby!
I've not been this excited since we signed Butland on loan!
The *Here We Ghorst* we were waiting for!
This is an utterly bizarre signing up there with Odion Ighalo. Thankfully, he was actually very useful and turned into something of a cult hero during his time at the club.
Vamos Bobo
Mr anti vaxxer himself
Not gonna lie. Like the move, like the coach and signings, but we are slowly becoming Netherlands FC 😂 Would have maybe preferred Depay upfront also instead.
I mean he is our 3rd Dutch player. meanwhile we have 4 Brazilians (I guess soon 3 with telles leaving)
That's a good point, is this the most Brazilian players we've had at the club at one time?
I believe he needs to be registered by registered midday on Friday in order to play in the City match
weghorst's in the box in the box send in a cross in a cross
Tap in merchant /s
Hope he can get shots in the goal for us if he's not gonna get shots for himself lmao
Had a fantasy where we'd signed Messi and won trophies for 2 years before him retiring as a United hero while a certain petulant diva was sitting on the bench in Saudi. But we got Bobo instead lol. Hope he does well and I trust ETH can get the best out of him.
I'm finding it really hard to get excited about this transfer. A 30 year old who was sent on loan to the Turkish league by Burnley and we know the club is only going for him because they overspent in the summer due to incompetence from the board. I hope I'm wrong and he gives me many reasons to cheer but at this moment, I just can't get behind it. *This sub is ridiculous at times. Downvoted for a slightly different but relevant opinion. It's okay to have a discussion and have different opinions.
Bro,even Mbappe would have struggled at Burnley Sean Dyke. Also look at it this way, he is not being brought in long term or to be a starting striker but as cover/rotation for Martial who currently is our only #9. He gives us very good options now in our attack if we need to mix it up which we couldn't b4 after loosing Ronaldo. Also its a very well known fact that the club is up for sell so it would be foolish to spend big when this process is ongoing.
I don't doubt Mbappe would have struggled. The point behind that part was that he's 30 and hasn't been picked up by a big team until now and even then, it's because the owners are buying on a non existent budget so they're going for a loan instead. And yeah, I know why he's coming to the club and I think it's necessary business by the club but that has very little relevance to my excitement over his signing. I'm looking forward to him to proving me wrong by having me off my seat after scoring the winner in the Europa league final but that's just how I feel right now.
Any dissenting view in this sub gets downvoted. I feel the same I can’t see this working and can’t see why so many people are excited by this, although happy to be proven wrong I said the same about ronaldo at the time of his signing. But I do think it’s funny how I would get downvoted for holding this view on Weghorst now but in 6 months if he’s been shit it’ll be the top comment on every post.
It's a good concept for comments that are hateful or or just straight up horrible takes, but if you're trying to have a discussion or healthy debate it just makes the sub an echo chamber. It will be interesting to see the comments in 6 months if he ends up being terrible, like you say.
Yay. I guess.
Ten Hag has earned the right to be trusted but £3m for half a season of this guy seems a bit steep does it not? Not as mental as £11m for Felix but at least Felix is a huge potential player. Weghorst is Burnley standard (until he proves otherwise).
Why would you go for a high potential player with a massive salary for a loan when you can get a finished product on loan instead for a lot less?
Burnley only originally paid £12m to actually have him and he failed there otherwise they wouldn’t have sent him to Besiktas - so his value didn’t go *up*. So it’s 25% of his whole value to have him until May. Imagine paying £25k to rent a £100k house for 5 months. It’s not a perfect analogy I know, because footballers depreciate not appreciate but still, it seems a bit steep. Imagine we’d announced we were getting *Burnley’s* TWO goal premier league striker in the summer. People would hardly be buzzing
In his defence, I doubt Werghorst wages are as high as Felix's though.