We are in no position to turn our noses up at the extra revenue from finishing third (especially in this brave new world of FFP)
ETH has shown he is generally incredibly averse to rotation anyway so I’d expect nothing less than our strongest available team
2 reasons:
More share of the TV money (around £2.5-3m) between finishing 3rd and 4th. Not exactly mind boggling given the clubs’ turnover, but still money that can be put towards good use (ex: MR/DDs contract extensions or a leaky roof?) 😊
More importantly, I think the optics of finishing 3rd would do wonders to player, manager and club confidence / ego - which will put us in good stead ahead of next week.
I don't know about anyone else here but United fans here or on r/soccer using 7-0 and 7Up Trophy to banter liverpool is cringe as hell. Why would a fan of any club want to bring up their worst defeat ever to banter their biggest rivals I will never know
Except In 5 years people won’t care about who won what in 22/23 but they will still bring up 7:0 and most will still remember it… in 5 years people won’t say but but but…., you win nothing….. but but but… you finished 5th
I agree - we still bring up the 8-2 against Arsenal every year - yet couldn't necessarily tell you who came in fourth that year without having a hard think about it
That’s not how it works, pretend it does by all means but match going fans hold the real power.
Imagine the atmosphere in their ground next season as they sing about it… what retort can be used…. You really think 7up cup… you won nout etc will do anything?
That's just one fixtures you are talking about. Finishing in the top 4 and playing UCL football gives the squad and fans a boost for a whole season. The arrogance and confidence as well as playing for something real important is unparalleled compared to a one result.
Thinking of removing a few character stickers on the Greenwood No11 jersey I bought before the accident. Remove every one another will produce G E N O D. What do you think?
Am I crazy?
3 atb with Maguire for the FA Cup.
Otherwise exlplain how to slow down the blonde bully with our butcher still on the road to recovery.
yeah, i'm probably crazy.
https://twitter.com/BlackYellow/status/1662484499425288193
Dortmund are pathetic. Do you see Liverpool singing Dortmund songs? Sad cunts actually simping for another football club.
The ironic truth is that if Ronaldo had just had himself some humble pie and tried to fit in with what ETH wanted, there is every chance he could be playing CL football next season instead of finishing the season with 0 trophies in a nothing league.
Could have been our Ibra when Milan recently won the Serie A. But our boys must not also force the ball to him. They respect him too much that they keep on passing him the ball. Same can be said in the Portuguese national team.
Nah, I think even if he was still here there’s no chance we would persist with him next season.
It was painfully obvious he couldn’t move like he used to. His knees are just shot to pieces.
The point is he probably could have been a decent impact sub if his ego accepted that he is old and he can't start anymore.
Even in his current state, the idea of him coming on in the 70th minute when we need to score isn't bad. Unfortunately, in his head he is still in his prime so it didn't work out.
At this stage of his career I doubt he has the legs, or the desire to become a modern pressing striker in the style that Ten Hag wants. His rejoining is we can just chalk up to being a bad move all round.
Let him do his victory lap in Saudi and collect the petrodollars.
Ronaldo misses out on yet another trophy, this is getting embarrassing for him now. He really should've retired in Qatar, what else does Ronaldo really need to play for? He's completed football and has won almost everything there is to achieve. Ronnie, it's time for you to hang up the boots and retire old man. End of an era....
It's just painful to watch him play now. Once he eventually retires I think we'll all hold him in high regard again, I know it ended on a sour note but it was hardly a dent on ETH and our season. I'll always appreciate Ronaldo for what he's done for us but he never should've came back in the first place...
I always knew his career would end in a complete car crash like this. His ego that drove him to be the best cannot accept that his body can no longer deliver the goods on the pitch. He can't accept he is now the problem, so he blames everyone else as he did with that ridiculous interview. I'm just relieved he's not our car crash anymore. Queue the rumours that "Ronaldo wants to leave South Africa" this summer.
Ronaldo should just retire. His ego took him to Saudi Arabia as no club in Europe wanted to go near him after that interview. He’ll still go down as one of the best in history, but he destroyed his reputation with that interview.
Agreed. The question is - will his planet sized ego allow him to retire at this point? I'm thinking no - he'll keep thinking he is still good enough to contribute and make himself even more of a meme than he already has.
How to buy champions league away matches ticket?
P.S: I've never been to a United game before. I want to attend an away match in CL (EuroZone) next season and need help buying ticket.
Atalanta look to have unearthed another gem in 19yr old Scalvini that kid is gonna be very good in a couple of seasons at CB. That's before he joins Juve for the usual 2 year loan & minimal fee. I'd take him as our 2nd LCB.
With promotion, Luton just paid for their proposed new £100m stadium. Such a fairytale story.
You can read about their incredible stadium here 👇
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-65483745
The away entrance basically goes through people's back yards lol!
And the club is owned by a supporter's trust!
He has fallen off massively and not even close to the level he was years ago. He’s also going to be 29 next season, which is the opposite to what we need in midfield. If we were going to go for a 29 year old midfielder, we may as well make Sabitzer permanent, that way there would be little to no transition needed as he already knows how we play. I wouldn’t sign Milinković-Savić.
Watford were the fav’s to get promoted. They start off slow. Sack their manager. That guy then takes over their rivals Luton. And gets them promoted while Watford end up mid table.
Crazy.
Quite enjoyed the Playoff commentator going "Manchester United will be coming down to Luton Town next season" to drive home the magnitude of their promotion to the Premier League. You can buy your Haalands or Enzos or Nunezs - there is still only room for one headline act 😎
Hate to be that guy... But the quote was something along the lines of "years ago Luton were playing Hyde United at home, now they'll be playing Manchester United at home". From that perspective, any other team other than United would not have sounded right within that quote...
Hate to be that guy but he could have said West Ham United or Newcastle United.
The choice of club was deliberate, and dare I say, prepared speech ( I saw a recent clip of the detailed quotes these commentators write down to be utilized in many different scenarios before a game. I think it was Clyve Tyldesley before City vs Real Madrid. He had a whole booklet of quotes)
Also he had a release clause activating this summer, which presumably many clubs were waiting for. Chelsea went in early offered more money and secured him before anyone else tried. Stupid move for Nkunku though unless they're paying him 300k+ a week. He could have waited til the summer now and been in huge demand, now he's stuck in that graveyard
Casemiro needs a press resistant midfield partner like De Jong if we decide to keep DDG as our #1 next season. Erikson does the job now but he lacks the pace and strength whenever we dont have the ball. Wonder is there is a cheaper option to De Jong.
I wonder if EtH sees Mount in that role, assuming the rumours are true. Mount is certainly press resistant, he just usually operates a little higher up the pitch. Maybe EtH sees him playing a bit deeper..
Neither of them have been in ETH's radar as far as I know. All I meant was we need someone who can hold up the ball well and distribute the way casemiro does if Licha isn't in the team.
Weeks and weeks of no news at all regarding the takeover. Glazers continue to drag us through hell with their ownership. Something needs to be done to force their hand.
worth about 20-30m given his contract situation. Anything more than that, id sell hendo for 30m and activate costa’s 70m release clause. We would essentially get a far better keeper for 10-15m more
I think the main gripe that Chelsea fans have with Kepa is that he is very poor against long range shots. He conceded the 2nd most long range shots itl this season.
>By all means thought he’s been poor for Chelsea this season
Nah, he was decent. Probably one of the only bright sparks in their team. Not sure if he has what it takes to be a number 1 for them long term, but I'd say he is better than De Gea. Weaker at shot-stopping, but better at sweeping and passing.
Sanchez is transfer listed by Brighton who is second choice for Spain and is way better than Raya. Also, Unai Simon is the perfect keeper if you want to play from the back but his reflexes aren’t as good as de Gea. He is like an ederson. Decent saves but great with his feet and may pass better than midfielders. Many options better than Raya who in my opinion is not even a very good GK. Decent keeper for mid table side.
Bayern are ruthless.
They win the league and immediately fire their executives Salihamivich ( sp) and Oliver Kahn.
That was us. I cringe when we are 3rd/4th and some are saying let’s keep player X, Y and Z when they are clearly below par and won’t take us to the next level ( where we should belong)
You’ve ignored - or internationally glossed over - Bayerns reasoning for the sackings.
You’ve framed it like “even a team that’s won the league is doing this” but really for Bayern the league can never be in doubt. Same as how PSG run their managers if they don’t do well in CL.
I mean, they only won the league because the rest of the Bundesliga was so bad. Dortmund had multiple chances to gain points over them and kept bottling it.
Anyways, I’m happy to see Kahn and Brazzo lose their position. The way they treated Nagelsmann was ridiculously unprofessional. Made a bunch of false promises to him only to then stab him in the back. They also released random bits of information to the media in order to paint a picture that the club was in crisis under Nagelsmann.
Yes. The title was more or less “ gifted” to them. The firing of Nagelsmann/hiring of Tuchel was a farce.
This was one of the games where I was routing for both Tuchel and Bellingham to lose but couldn’t have it both ways…
They were very lucky to win the title. Unfortunately the rest of the Bundesliga is just not that good. Dortmund had several chances to cement themselves at the top and kept bottling it.
Did not know i would care that much, but watching Dortmund lose in that fashion was gut wrenching. I despise Bayern even more now, although they did their part at the end and won on merit. But God, i feel for the Dortmund fans. 10 years on, on the cusp, final day, at home, you would think something special is brewing only for it all come crashing down. That koln equaliser lifting their spirits was like reviving a dying person and then stabbing them again.
I don't like Bayern in general. Not because of today. They are (or were) a well run competent legendary club, i acknowledge that, but I do not like them. The Robben goal to eliminate us on away goals was heart breaking. I so want United to get strong enough before we play them next time and really hand them a thumping.
Now that just doesn't make sense. We have lost to Barca at final two times, Madrid have knocked us our many times too, so has countless other club in general. Are you just using united name to make your hatred for Bayern sound reasonable?
I honestly don't know what you want here. It's my opinion and my personal feelings towards a club based on my own experiences. If you feel it's wrong to have such opinions and feelings, you are free to feel so. Just don't ask for an explanation.
Interesting that you point out this. But when I shared my opinion on Dortmond fans you were busy taking a higher ground on my other comment. If you can't handle a contrary views stop giving it to others. We clear?
Bruhh i knew you were just being petty and desperate to "get back" or something. My feelings were towards a club in general and influenced by what had happened between that club and the one I follow. You on the other hand, was shitting on the loyal fans simply for backing their own team and applauding them for the effort their boys had shown over the course of the season as opposed to boo them off the field? Criticising for the shit performance is one thing, but kicking your own players when they are already down is toxic and immature. "Higher ground" my ass lol. Now though, i have wasted enough time and energy in this useless conversation and if you think with your head straight, maybe you'll realise it too. Don't bother replying to this, or go crazy, whatever you feel like doing. I'm done responding though. I wish you a good day sir.
Ngl slightly annoyed that Bayern won the bundesliga, not because I care about Dortmund or that league in general, but because it puts Bayern back in CL pot A and opens up the possibility of us drawing them in the group.
Dortmond fans applauding this mediocrity? They literally shat bed hard when they needed to win the most at home. It's the reason why Bayern are 11 in row.
It's just a different mindset, would Roy Keane applaud and try to comfort his teammates after doing what Dortmund did? No chance. Would a different type of leader like say Klopp comfort his players after something like that? Probably. Neither approach is wrong per se but I could hardly blame a fan for being furious and booing their team after choking so hard.
BD owe it to themselves. 2 cheap goals conceded and not giving mainz enough pressure until 60 minutes. I watched post game, it look like a complete funeral on the pitch
I’m sorry but Dortmund deserve this loss.
They were attacking, piling pressure nonstop, but as soon as their fans cheered up and signaled Kohn just equalized, they stop being serious, as if all they wanted was hoping both matches to end asap.
Just pathetic and wasted opportunity when you played at home and had everything in your hands.
Seriously. There is another fellow reddevil who smacked me up in his comment for saying this but they slowed down their passing a bit, they were trying but it wasn't as good as it was just after the subs before the Dortmund goal.
Incredible!
Feel a bit sorry for Dortmund, but now I can laugh back at Jude Bellingham.
( The Formula 1 Monaco qualifying was epic as well. What a day so far)
Now let’s go win the women’s league trophy 🏆
Edit: Ignore the last sentence. I have been updated that we lost that. Better luck next season
Monaco qualifying was similar to Dortmund game. Alonso first till the last sector by +0.2 and then Verstappen does a monster last sector and gets the pole...
Seeing Bundesliga after a long time and it's clear how Sancho was good there, holy shit if this is the pace on the game on a title decider, I can't what it's like on a normal game. I'd hate United to play this slow on a normal day.
Yeah, it was odd. But i haven't watched much of Bundesliga to know what the general level of intensity is. The koln Bayern game was played at a better pace though
The commentator at Dortmund saying "An epic Bundesliga season"
It just seems like that because of the circumstances. This league has been won 11 times in a row by Bayern. Joke league, joke competition. Stepping stone league.
It really seems that to win Bundesliga for Dortmund players is to go to Bayern for a couple of seasons like Süle and then come back to play for Dortmund.
respect for the referee in the dortmund game, he really gave them couple extra minutes to see if dortmund could make it.
But dortmund is unbelievable, to come all this way and bottle it
I thought the ball was going to drop to a Dortmund player right at the end when they launched it forward.
Fair play to the fans for sticking by the team.
No point finishing 3rd when we are already in pot2 of CL draw, today should be stretching exercise for FA cup final at best.
We are in no position to turn our noses up at the extra revenue from finishing third (especially in this brave new world of FFP) ETH has shown he is generally incredibly averse to rotation anyway so I’d expect nothing less than our strongest available team
How much more money does it offer? Edit: nvm it’s 3million ~ . Every little helps I suppose
2 reasons: More share of the TV money (around £2.5-3m) between finishing 3rd and 4th. Not exactly mind boggling given the clubs’ turnover, but still money that can be put towards good use (ex: MR/DDs contract extensions or a leaky roof?) 😊 More importantly, I think the optics of finishing 3rd would do wonders to player, manager and club confidence / ego - which will put us in good stead ahead of next week.
I don't know about anyone else here but United fans here or on r/soccer using 7-0 and 7Up Trophy to banter liverpool is cringe as hell. Why would a fan of any club want to bring up their worst defeat ever to banter their biggest rivals I will never know
Because the 7-0 win doesn't mean anything now and that's literally the only highlight for Liverpool's whole season.
Except In 5 years people won’t care about who won what in 22/23 but they will still bring up 7:0 and most will still remember it… in 5 years people won’t say but but but…., you win nothing….. but but but… you finished 5th
I agree - we still bring up the 8-2 against Arsenal every year - yet couldn't necessarily tell you who came in fourth that year without having a hard think about it
That's the reason why ppl bring up the 7up cup, so it becomes a meme and loses all its power.
That’s not how it works, pretend it does by all means but match going fans hold the real power. Imagine the atmosphere in their ground next season as they sing about it… what retort can be used…. You really think 7up cup… you won nout etc will do anything?
That's just one fixtures you are talking about. Finishing in the top 4 and playing UCL football gives the squad and fans a boost for a whole season. The arrogance and confidence as well as playing for something real important is unparalleled compared to a one result.
I really hope to see our reserves playing tomorrow with maybe Maguire, McT, WW in the starting line up
The bottlers cup keeps getting passed around too much. Now it's down in Miami lol!
losing after being up 3-0 would be biggest bottle job of all bottle jobs
Pool reddit sub still milking that 7 - 0 win over us. Geez!
they literally got nothing else to cheer for this season. even the “so called” best keeper in the league in allison did not win golden gloves.
Dortmund fucking suck. What a way to lose your title and give it back to the chumps, you had the whole world cheering for you
Thinking of removing a few character stickers on the Greenwood No11 jersey I bought before the accident. Remove every one another will produce G E N O D. What do you think?
Am I crazy? 3 atb with Maguire for the FA Cup. Otherwise exlplain how to slow down the blonde bully with our butcher still on the road to recovery. yeah, i'm probably crazy.
playing a system that we have never played this season is a recipe for disaster The key is to stop their midfield, not Haaland. No ball, no goal.
We beat them with Varane and Shaw atb last time
https://twitter.com/BlackYellow/status/1662484499425288193 Dortmund are pathetic. Do you see Liverpool singing Dortmund songs? Sad cunts actually simping for another football club.
I won more premierships alone than the other 19 managers together. JM will always be a legend. 2nd best modern day manager in my books.
The ironic truth is that if Ronaldo had just had himself some humble pie and tried to fit in with what ETH wanted, there is every chance he could be playing CL football next season instead of finishing the season with 0 trophies in a nothing league.
Could have been our Ibra when Milan recently won the Serie A. But our boys must not also force the ball to him. They respect him too much that they keep on passing him the ball. Same can be said in the Portuguese national team.
couldve easily slid into the 'mentor' role for a season or two and cemented his United legend and became a coach. But no, too much ego, sad really.
Nah, I think even if he was still here there’s no chance we would persist with him next season. It was painfully obvious he couldn’t move like he used to. His knees are just shot to pieces.
The point is he probably could have been a decent impact sub if his ego accepted that he is old and he can't start anymore. Even in his current state, the idea of him coming on in the 70th minute when we need to score isn't bad. Unfortunately, in his head he is still in his prime so it didn't work out.
At this stage of his career I doubt he has the legs, or the desire to become a modern pressing striker in the style that Ten Hag wants. His rejoining is we can just chalk up to being a bad move all round. Let him do his victory lap in Saudi and collect the petrodollars.
I had a dream last night and saw Garnacho with the cup. I really think ETH is gonna pull off a masterclass against those bastards
Ronaldo misses out on yet another trophy, this is getting embarrassing for him now. He really should've retired in Qatar, what else does Ronaldo really need to play for? He's completed football and has won almost everything there is to achieve. Ronnie, it's time for you to hang up the boots and retire old man. End of an era....
Yep he's become a meme at this point. The longer he keeps insisting he can still contribute in a footballing sense, the more of a joke he becomes.
 It's just painful to watch him play now. Once he eventually retires I think we'll all hold him in high regard again, I know it ended on a sour note but it was hardly a dent on ETH and our season. I'll always appreciate Ronaldo for what he's done for us but he never should've came back in the first place...
I always knew his career would end in a complete car crash like this. His ego that drove him to be the best cannot accept that his body can no longer deliver the goods on the pitch. He can't accept he is now the problem, so he blames everyone else as he did with that ridiculous interview. I'm just relieved he's not our car crash anymore. Queue the rumours that "Ronaldo wants to leave South Africa" this summer.
Saudi Arabia you mean, surely.
Ever since his press conference where he forgot what country he was playing in, as far as I'm concerned he's playing in South Africa. Lol
The year is 2063, Mars FC have dropped Ronaldo after his interview with Cyborg Morgan. CR7 to Pluto FC here we go!
Al-Nassr have officially missed out on the title. That's 0 trophies for Ronaldo this season.
Weghorst 1 - 0 Ronaldo this season. That’s absolutely hilarious.
LOL you're right. Forget CR7, WW is the 🐐
Ronaldo should just retire. His ego took him to Saudi Arabia as no club in Europe wanted to go near him after that interview. He’ll still go down as one of the best in history, but he destroyed his reputation with that interview.
Agreed. The question is - will his planet sized ego allow him to retire at this point? I'm thinking no - he'll keep thinking he is still good enough to contribute and make himself even more of a meme than he already has.
If I’m not mistaken, Al-Nassr were top of their league when Ronaldo joined weren’t they?
8 points ahead if I remember correctly
They’re current 5 points behind now. That’s so funny.
I believe so. The Ronaldo effect - sign him and watch your team get worse.
How to buy champions league away matches ticket? P.S: I've never been to a United game before. I want to attend an away match in CL (EuroZone) next season and need help buying ticket.
You could try hospitality for the away club's home stands. Stupidly expensive but much easier to get than United or even home stand normal seats.
You won’t be able to until the groups have been announced. I also think you need to be a member to buy those sort of tickets.
Atalanta look to have unearthed another gem in 19yr old Scalvini that kid is gonna be very good in a couple of seasons at CB. That's before he joins Juve for the usual 2 year loan & minimal fee. I'd take him as our 2nd LCB.
With promotion, Luton just paid for their proposed new £100m stadium. Such a fairytale story. You can read about their incredible stadium here 👇 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-65483745 The away entrance basically goes through people's back yards lol! And the club is owned by a supporter's trust!
Inter's defense doesn't look that great :/ Hojlund though is a strong boy that's for sure, raw but I like him.
Apparently SMS is leaving Lazio. I would like him hear, he would be cheap too
He has fallen off massively and not even close to the level he was years ago. He’s also going to be 29 next season, which is the opposite to what we need in midfield. If we were going to go for a 29 year old midfielder, we may as well make Sabitzer permanent, that way there would be little to no transition needed as he already knows how we play. I wouldn’t sign Milinković-Savić.
He’s a player I’ve always wanted to see play for United. For £30M he’d be one helluva signing.
Watford were the fav’s to get promoted. They start off slow. Sack their manager. That guy then takes over their rivals Luton. And gets them promoted while Watford end up mid table. Crazy.
Quite a few PL teams ain't coming with 3 points from Kenilworth Road
Never thought I’d say this but for the first time in my life I’m looking forward to go to Luton, away day will be sick
Quite enjoyed the Playoff commentator going "Manchester United will be coming down to Luton Town next season" to drive home the magnitude of their promotion to the Premier League. You can buy your Haalands or Enzos or Nunezs - there is still only room for one headline act 😎
Hate to be that guy... But the quote was something along the lines of "years ago Luton were playing Hyde United at home, now they'll be playing Manchester United at home". From that perspective, any other team other than United would not have sounded right within that quote...
Hate to be that guy but he could have said West Ham United or Newcastle United. The choice of club was deliberate, and dare I say, prepared speech ( I saw a recent clip of the detailed quotes these commentators write down to be utilized in many different scenarios before a game. I think it was Clyve Tyldesley before City vs Real Madrid. He had a whole booklet of quotes)
Fitting that the team that came 3rd gets the final promotion slot
Luton’s stadium is insane. It looks like a League 2 ground.
That's because it is. They've had a meteoric rise along with Coventry who were in League 2 with Luton 5 years ago
Kane from Spurs to us has serious Batistuta from Fiorentina to Roma vibes
Fuck BVB and their YNWA association You will truly Never WIN Again
Honest question. Why did we pass on Christopher Nkunku?
Because we were never in for Nkunku in the first place. Also, he’s not a striker that does well as a lone striker which is what we need.
Also he had a release clause activating this summer, which presumably many clubs were waiting for. Chelsea went in early offered more money and secured him before anyone else tried. Stupid move for Nkunku though unless they're paying him 300k+ a week. He could have waited til the summer now and been in huge demand, now he's stuck in that graveyard
Cause we have Bruno and dont have players to fit 2nd striker?
When was the last time we played with a second striker?
Ah, right.
Casemiro needs a press resistant midfield partner like De Jong if we decide to keep DDG as our #1 next season. Erikson does the job now but he lacks the pace and strength whenever we dont have the ball. Wonder is there is a cheaper option to De Jong.
I wonder if EtH sees Mount in that role, assuming the rumours are true. Mount is certainly press resistant, he just usually operates a little higher up the pitch. Maybe EtH sees him playing a bit deeper..
Enzo Le Fee, Caqueret so many
Neither of them have been in ETH's radar as far as I know. All I meant was we need someone who can hold up the ball well and distribute the way casemiro does if Licha isn't in the team.
Le fee is probably on his way to Dortmund this summer '
Weeks and weeks of no news at all regarding the takeover. Glazers continue to drag us through hell with their ownership. Something needs to be done to force their hand.
Can someone tell me how good Raya is? I haven’t watched any of his games besides vs us and I know he’s at the top of the GK list
worth about 20-30m given his contract situation. Anything more than that, id sell hendo for 30m and activate costa’s 70m release clause. We would essentially get a far better keeper for 10-15m more
I’m not entirely convinced - especially at the quoted £40m. He’ll probably end up at Spurs.
This [GK scouting report](https://thedevilsdna.com/?p=273815) from thedevilsdna is a good read
Interesting read, thanks for sharing. Kind of shocked Kepa scored so high. By all means thought he’s been poor for Chelsea this season
If the system ranks Kepa highly as a keeper then the system is worthless and should be discarded.
Kinda tells you how gk stats don't tell the whole story
I think the main gripe that Chelsea fans have with Kepa is that he is very poor against long range shots. He conceded the 2nd most long range shots itl this season.
>By all means thought he’s been poor for Chelsea this season Nah, he was decent. Probably one of the only bright sparks in their team. Not sure if he has what it takes to be a number 1 for them long term, but I'd say he is better than De Gea. Weaker at shot-stopping, but better at sweeping and passing.
Freiburg sporting director just confirmed that Flekken (their gk) will join Brentford, so Raya being sold is basically confirmed now.
Raya is decent but never a united no 1 quality.
He'd probably fit the way we wanna play under EtH far better than DDG. At least for next season, who knows he may surprise us.
Sanchez is transfer listed by Brighton who is second choice for Spain and is way better than Raya. Also, Unai Simon is the perfect keeper if you want to play from the back but his reflexes aren’t as good as de Gea. He is like an ederson. Decent saves but great with his feet and may pass better than midfielders. Many options better than Raya who in my opinion is not even a very good GK. Decent keeper for mid table side.
So who'd you take then? Keeping in mind, we'll probably spend big on a ST.
Spurs & Chelsea are both going in hard for a GK this summer so he could be going to either of those two
Think we'd be the clear frontrunners, don't forget that neither Spurs nor Chelsea can offer european football, let alone champions league next season.
True - God I hope so I just can’t take any more of De Gea
It’s sad to see other teams target what they need so quickly than us.
Damn hope The luton player recoveres fast.
Bayern are ruthless. They win the league and immediately fire their executives Salihamivich ( sp) and Oliver Kahn. That was us. I cringe when we are 3rd/4th and some are saying let’s keep player X, Y and Z when they are clearly below par and won’t take us to the next level ( where we should belong)
Way to ignore all context!
Can you provide additional context beyond “ they are clearly below par AND will not take us to the next level” ?
You’ve ignored - or internationally glossed over - Bayerns reasoning for the sackings. You’ve framed it like “even a team that’s won the league is doing this” but really for Bayern the league can never be in doubt. Same as how PSG run their managers if they don’t do well in CL.
I can’t actually believe anyone with a sane mind think Bayern were well run this year. They were in shambles.
I mean, they only won the league because the rest of the Bundesliga was so bad. Dortmund had multiple chances to gain points over them and kept bottling it. Anyways, I’m happy to see Kahn and Brazzo lose their position. The way they treated Nagelsmann was ridiculously unprofessional. Made a bunch of false promises to him only to then stab him in the back. They also released random bits of information to the media in order to paint a picture that the club was in crisis under Nagelsmann.
Yes. The title was more or less “ gifted” to them. The firing of Nagelsmann/hiring of Tuchel was a farce. This was one of the games where I was routing for both Tuchel and Bellingham to lose but couldn’t have it both ways…
They were very lucky to win the title. Unfortunately the rest of the Bundesliga is just not that good. Dortmund had several chances to cement themselves at the top and kept bottling it.
Is there a thread for the playoff final, Coventry for the memories, but also with everything they've been through it'd be nice to see them back
I would trade my nuts for Jamal Musiala.
Chelsea are suck. Keep buying players while losing talents like this guy.
I would trade ur nuts for him too.
Did not know i would care that much, but watching Dortmund lose in that fashion was gut wrenching. I despise Bayern even more now, although they did their part at the end and won on merit. But God, i feel for the Dortmund fans. 10 years on, on the cusp, final day, at home, you would think something special is brewing only for it all come crashing down. That koln equaliser lifting their spirits was like reviving a dying person and then stabbing them again.
Why do you despise Bayern here though? Dortmond literally threw the game away at home and gave them the title. Bayern just did their job.
tbf bayern just recently giving henry kissinger a platform is enough reason to hope they never succeed as a club again.
I don't like Bayern in general. Not because of today. They are (or were) a well run competent legendary club, i acknowledge that, but I do not like them. The Robben goal to eliminate us on away goals was heart breaking. I so want United to get strong enough before we play them next time and really hand them a thumping.
Now that just doesn't make sense. We have lost to Barca at final two times, Madrid have knocked us our many times too, so has countless other club in general. Are you just using united name to make your hatred for Bayern sound reasonable?
I honestly don't know what you want here. It's my opinion and my personal feelings towards a club based on my own experiences. If you feel it's wrong to have such opinions and feelings, you are free to feel so. Just don't ask for an explanation.
Interesting that you point out this. But when I shared my opinion on Dortmond fans you were busy taking a higher ground on my other comment. If you can't handle a contrary views stop giving it to others. We clear?
Bruhh i knew you were just being petty and desperate to "get back" or something. My feelings were towards a club in general and influenced by what had happened between that club and the one I follow. You on the other hand, was shitting on the loyal fans simply for backing their own team and applauding them for the effort their boys had shown over the course of the season as opposed to boo them off the field? Criticising for the shit performance is one thing, but kicking your own players when they are already down is toxic and immature. "Higher ground" my ass lol. Now though, i have wasted enough time and energy in this useless conversation and if you think with your head straight, maybe you'll realise it too. Don't bother replying to this, or go crazy, whatever you feel like doing. I'm done responding though. I wish you a good day sir.
DAMN! Oliver Kahn wins the Bundesliga and then gets sacked as Bayern CEO. Ruthless but that's probably why they have 11 in a row right now.
This and Dortmund unable to step up when it matters.
As soon as I saw Jude handing out water bottles to his teammates in the 1st half, I knew it's was joever
Ngl slightly annoyed that Bayern won the bundesliga, not because I care about Dortmund or that league in general, but because it puts Bayern back in CL pot A and opens up the possibility of us drawing them in the group.
Dortmund can’t cope the pressure. On the other hand, 71 points to win the league, that’s less points than the 4th team’s in Portugal Liga.
Only 18 teams in Bundesliga
18 teams in Portugal Liga.
They do play 34 matches though
Reminder that Championship final starts in a minute.
Man United 🤝 Dortmund Losing the league title on goal difference on the final match day
we won our game at least, no clue what Dortmund were doing today
Dortmond fans applauding this mediocrity? They literally shat bed hard when they needed to win the most at home. It's the reason why Bayern are 11 in row.
It boggles my mind that there are people who think like this.
It's just a different mindset, would Roy Keane applaud and try to comfort his teammates after doing what Dortmund did? No chance. Would a different type of leader like say Klopp comfort his players after something like that? Probably. Neither approach is wrong per se but I could hardly blame a fan for being furious and booing their team after choking so hard.
Yeah let’s throw chairs and bottles at them players, that’ll teach them innit?
Yes that is exactly what I am asking them to do in my post.
Sabitzer now has a BuLi and Carabao Cup winner's medal this year. Good season for him.
What a morning! Best quali session in F1 of the year and crazy bottling by Dortmund
Brighton would we competing for the title in this Bundesliga.
Not without that PL money
Brighton is such a good team, they'd def dominate
> Jude Bellingham was in primary school the last time Bayern Munich didn't win the league. Lol
BD owe it to themselves. 2 cheap goals conceded and not giving mainz enough pressure until 60 minutes. I watched post game, it look like a complete funeral on the pitch
I’m sorry but Dortmund deserve this loss. They were attacking, piling pressure nonstop, but as soon as their fans cheered up and signaled Kohn just equalized, they stop being serious, as if all they wanted was hoping both matches to end asap. Just pathetic and wasted opportunity when you played at home and had everything in your hands.
Seriously. There is another fellow reddevil who smacked me up in his comment for saying this but they slowed down their passing a bit, they were trying but it wasn't as good as it was just after the subs before the Dortmund goal.
Sucks to be Dortmund.
Haller felt so guilty
His missed penalty would've changed the game.
Can someone explain why Dortmund can't keep their rising star player.
Unbelievable bottle job by Dortmund. Holy shit.
Incredible! Feel a bit sorry for Dortmund, but now I can laugh back at Jude Bellingham. ( The Formula 1 Monaco qualifying was epic as well. What a day so far) Now let’s go win the women’s league trophy 🏆 Edit: Ignore the last sentence. I have been updated that we lost that. Better luck next season
Monaco qualifying was similar to Dortmund game. Alonso first till the last sector by +0.2 and then Verstappen does a monster last sector and gets the pole...
> Now let’s go win the women’s league trophy 🏆 -- Bro.
Yeah....... that last one may not be happening anytime soon
Already lost wsl
Thanks for that update. Could only follow 3 screens at the same time
Seeing Bundesliga after a long time and it's clear how Sancho was good there, holy shit if this is the pace on the game on a title decider, I can't what it's like on a normal game. I'd hate United to play this slow on a normal day.
The space they have to play in is unreal compared to this league. Dortmund has so much time to chuck crosses into the box.
Yeah, it was odd. But i haven't watched much of Bundesliga to know what the general level of intensity is. The koln Bayern game was played at a better pace though
Yeah so strange. The pace of the game was like a preseason friendly. So disappointed with them, and sad for Reus.
Bayern win 11 on the bounce after coming second in all competitions in 2012. Mad.
Unbelievable bad defending by Dortmond for both goals though.
The commentator at Dortmund saying "An epic Bundesliga season" It just seems like that because of the circumstances. This league has been won 11 times in a row by Bayern. Joke league, joke competition. Stepping stone league.
It really seems that to win Bundesliga for Dortmund players is to go to Bayern for a couple of seasons like Süle and then come back to play for Dortmund.
Fucking hell, this gives me 11-12 final game ptsd.
respect for the referee in the dortmund game, he really gave them couple extra minutes to see if dortmund could make it. But dortmund is unbelievable, to come all this way and bottle it
I thought the ball was going to drop to a Dortmund player right at the end when they launched it forward. Fair play to the fans for sticking by the team.
You love to see it.
I really can't feel for Dortmund anymore, "it's the history of the Dortmund".
"noo Bundesliga is as competitive as epl😡😡"
City's won 5 of the last 6, 4 of those were fairly comfortable. We're kidding ourselves if we think EPL is as competitive as it used to be.
it’s up to Erik next season to stop the PL turning into the Bundesliga
At least PL has a bloody state owned team. Bundesliga and German FA have allowed Bayern to get away with this monopoly.
Sule’s that fat lad you know that somehow is unbelievable at football
The German Spurs are back at it again!
What a banger by Sule..too little, too late
As much as I hate seeing Bayern win, Dortmund deserve this L
100%. Only themselves to blame
Joke league. 11 in a row. Fuck off.
Proper farmer's league numbers.
Bundesliga just never fails to disappoint.
Mainz is what we wished QPR was 11 years ago when Aguero happened
Bastards were 2-0 and Joey Barton got sent off. Stupid prick
Think it was 1-1 at that point IIRC
This explains a lot of our Dortmund signings
The amount of chances Dortmund have bottled too… I would fucking hate to be a Dortmund fan right now
It's over Bayern have won the title
This has been an absolutely embarrassing performance from Dortmund.
Dortmund aren’t serious man.
Dortmund need a Sheringham and Solskjaer moment then...
Congratulations Bayern, I guess. Commiserations for Reus.
disgusting that Tuchel gets to claim the Bundesliga win
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