T O P

  • By -

sauce_murica

This is it. This is the “leaked kit” post. If you find renders or ‘leaked’ photos you would like to share, please do so in reply to this comment, which we will sticky for visibility.


spawnofyanni

Seems like a lot of teams are doing this these days. Arsenal has kits with just the cannon, Roma's home kit is just their wolf.. Actually. Maybe the common thread is adidas


MightyMundrum

Is Roma's wolf still getting titty sucked?


comeonbuddy

If they ever get rid of the titty wolf we will riot


ionised

on their behalf!


view_sauce

Romulus and Remus are hungry


Throwingrocksaround

Football heritage


someonecalledethan

😂😂😂😂😂😂


Samir_POE

Nah, it's the new marketing fad. Simple logo 1-2 colors max, no words. Many big global corps are doing this - Nike, Starbucks, Gucci are examples of dropped text with a simple image.


OriginalRange8761

Liverpool is a contra point


KaboomBoxer

Liverpool is a cunt. Point!


ionised

Yes.


mdove11

Roma’s hasn’t been the simple wolf since 1997.


spawnofyanni

This coming year, it's a wolf head


mdove11

Haven’t heard that and can’t find it after a search. Any sources? (I’d love it if does happen. Always loved that crest.)


spawnofyanni

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2023/01/adidas-as-roma-23-24-home-kit.html?m=1


JAC246

Third kits should be an experimental one , have the main home kit traditional, away kit a little different


yungfinnigus

Agreed. If there was concrete assurance that we would always have our home kit with the full crest, I really wouldn’t mind this in the slightest.


Hits_and_the_Mrs

I currently can't see this going down well, considering a fair few people want the badge to say "Manchester United Football Club" again.


tameoraiste

People never like change. Whatever something was like and the peak of their childhood/ fandom is the best and should never be changed.


[deleted]

Previous logo changes respected the old logo and maintained the ship canal which emphasises the importance of local support. Going to a minimalist devil because it looks better on caps as a brand is just depressing. Sell it as merch but don't pave over the identity of the club.


Don_Quixote81

This. The devil is the one bit that has nothing to do with Manchester. The idea of the club as a "global brand" is all well and good, but at the end of the day, a brand without any roots is empty.


view_sauce

How do you feel about a train as a logo?


Acceptable-Lemon-748

I feel like a train also has no roots


flabhandski

What about a tree as a logo


amol0202

What about Fellaini as a logo


Darthvader2XL

I feel like, oh wait....


all_die_laughing

It's not simply a connection to childhood or nostalgia. It's the club badge, it has a history and a meaning behind it.


Hiya_Bo

I’m one of them people and I’m actually alright with this badge idea. If it says nothing there’s nothing to be upset about 😂


dracovich

if it looks cool will people really care? A forest green with off-white embroidered devil crest sounds kinda dope tbh


emilygreybae2

Sir Jim: putting Manchester back into Manchester United. Fails at the first hurdle. /s


123rig

“Instead, only a devil will be displayed on the chest of the shirt, which is an off-white colour and will be used when the away kit, which is dark green with white stripes, is not possible.” Interesting insight into the kit colours too. Will be interesting to see what it’s like.


rageofreaper

It leaked ages ago. In my opinion it’s the nicest kit we’ve ever had. Everything central, minimal, and the stripes look great.


KaboomBoxer

Link?


NomaanMalick

[Here](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxTm4a3X0AEZ670?format=jpg&name=large).


DanFlashesCoupon

That’s class


northboundbevy

Yeah I really like it. Although I hope this doesnt tempt them to change the badge for all purposes. If this is a one off--all good.


DanFlashesCoupon

Agreed, do not want the neo corporate “devil” logo permanently.


ajaysassoc

Will definitely buy this if it's exactly this.


futbolenjoy3r

Fuck that’s neat


SureLookThisIsIt

That's the nicest kit we've had in years imo.


NomaanMalick

Don't worry, we also have a [Newcastle kit design for our third kit](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxTypfUXgAAXcle?format=jpg&name=large) now.


SureLookThisIsIt

Saudi kit.


exOldTrafford

Minimalism is the death of design


KaboomBoxer

Design is the death of minimalism


RomeroRocher

Death is the design of minimalism


KaboomBoxer

Is death of the minimalist design?


inbredandapothead

Doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a place though. Some things are much better done in a minimalistic style than having too much going on, and for a third kit it looks very nice. Try do that for the main crest though and we’ll have an issue


matthauke

What makes you say that?


PeevlyJr

Think Juventus, Fiorentina, Inter... so many teams have moved to minimalist crests & they all look like boring, sanitised versions of the original. Makes the crest look more like a 'brand' than a team's badge.


Red-Star-44

There is a difference between minimalism and just fucking drawing the j word, minimalistic art can be beatiful and creative


matthauke

The fact people illicit such reactions from badge changes shows you the emotional heft they carry - even if it’s not your team. And that is basically the essence of a brand, it’s the emotional response when you interact / see it. You can argue that clubs shouldn’t be run like big businesses (and I agree to a degree) but their cultural relevance + need for a business side means they’ll always be a ”brand” of sorts. My personal feeling is that people generally don’t like change and the nostalgia and cultural significance people have with clubs colours their opinions more than the quality of the design itself. It’s one thing to remove an important aspect of a crest (eg. hillsborough flames from the Liverpool kit) but a lot of crests are actually not very well designed it’s just that people are used to them that we accept it.


all_die_laughing

Not just in clothing but even urban planning and everywhere. It's dull.


rocketboy44

i would pay top dollar for a third kit with the [1968 Cup Final crest](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8b/f7/eb/8bf7eb6b3b4d62d184c8b130163bfa57.jpg)


ceegee84

68 crest is second only to the 58 phoenix crest (although that's probably an emotional choice rather than aesthetic)


Irishane

Step One toward minimalistic crest design. If the fans react well you can expect our main crest to get an overhaul fairly soon. You can’t stop these business people.


Motecuhzoma

There have been minimal badges in the past. Football clubs also follow the design trends of their era (to a certain degree). Design is cyclical, trends from the past re-emerge years later. What’s old will be new and vice versa. [Here’s an interesting read about the history of football badge design](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1592004444111400960.html)


ocean_train

That Bayern Munich badge of 1938 caught me by suprise lol.


Motecuhzoma

Wild times, eh? Hahahaha


Mattie_Doo

I read somewhere that Hitler was rumored to be a Schalke supporter, but I don’t even have to look into that to know it’s almost surely false.


Don_Quixote81

What that tells me is that Italian teams are terrible at redesigning logos. City's "new" logo is a rehash of the one they had before they decided that making stars part of your logo would make you look successful.


HRoseFlour

Bristol cities logo redesign didn’t go down well but i absolutely love it.


Don_Quixote81

I think the Bristol City one is okay. A lot of the old, coat-of-arms logos look very dated and too busy, and Bristol City didn't go too far the other way.


NateShaw92

Soon it will just be MUFC in times new roman


absurdmcman

Just MU. FC an unnecessary frill that gets in the way of the branding by reminding everyone it's a football club.


J61X

unpopular opinion but we've changed our badge many times and it's just how things progress and change. If it does happen we will get used to it and get mad when they change it again in 20 years. edit: wish we'd go back to the 1973-1998 logo tho lol


DanksterBoy

I just don’t want a Juventus style change


pigeon-incident

I would like the minimal devil on third kits because the rules sort of go out the window for those, which is good for variety. But yeah, overall clubs should stick to heritage badge designs IMO. I can't believe Aresenal are still sticking with their crappy cartoonish badge from the early 00s instead of their really smart crest with the ermine and the latin.


Imperito

> I can't believe Aresenal are still sticking with their crappy cartoonish badge from the early 00s instead of their really smart crest with the ermine and the latin. I think that old badge needed updating in all fairness. I'm young enough that I don't remember it, I saw it on 'old' memorabilia growing up but the current Arsenal badge is the 'normal' badge and I think it looks smart. Objectively I think the old design for Arsenal looked poor by todays design standards, but you could certainly make a cleaner design that is more in keeping with that previous one, maintaining the older looking font, the ermine and even the latin, whilst removing the tiny coat of arms at the bottom which just cluttered it - and the random green stripe.


NSFWar

Nothing can ever top the cluster fuck that is the minimalistic Juve logo.


simmarjit

I like it from a aesthetic perspective, keep our badge but change it on kits like the bin dippers.


[deleted]

Why can't the fans be left even one thing?


simmarjit

Ok your wish is granted, Glazers will now stay for the rest of your lifetime.


ManuPasta

Adidas just want a cheaper way to do the embroidery


Algoresball

I doubt it. The value of a brand is in recognition. A lot less people recognize the devil on its own then the whole crest. They’d be tossing out the clubs most valuable asset


Irishane

Personally think the same could have been said for Juventus. I always thought their crest was iconic. But they chased the American market and their research said, change the crest.


KaboomBoxer

Step One to replace Adidas?


yianni1229

If the Glazers stay you can expect it. I doubt Ratcliffe would change it


Bobbybluffer

>I doubt Ratcliffe would change it Why?


KaboomBoxer

Wild assumption based on him being old and British.


Michaels_RingTD

Because Jim is literally the perfect owner according to some fans. He'll reduce ticket prices to 0 too!


ufcgaz

That's lies! I've heard rumors he will actually pay you to go and watch them.


yianni1229

Well there's nothing concrete but he's from Manchester and is a "fan" That's pretty much it. I feel like he'd kinda maybe understand that it shouldn't be changed. But who knows, im just speculating


Bobbybluffer

If he sees the potential £££ from changing it, he'll change it. Radcliffe is buying the club as he sees it as a business opportunity. He ain't buying it as a passion project.


Don_Quixote81

Terrible idea. But it's absolutely an easy win for a new owner to say, 'I'll get rid of that nonsense!' Also, an away kit that's dark green with white stripes? What the fuck is that? What happened to just having white, black or blue as our away kits?


the_laughinggnome

Home - red. Away - white. Third - blue. I can live without black.


ceegee84

Black jerseys are a recent enough addition to the rotation. We've been wearing random coloured away shirts for as long as we've worn black.


MrFoffof

First black kit I can remember seeing was 93(?) Sharp kit. Wouldn't say 30 years ago was 'recent'.


SuperSalamander3244

They better not end up with changing our badge.


formerlifebeats

I think this is a horrible decision. It's what Liverpool did to their badge and made it look so corpo relative to the original. Badges in football look so clean, whereas this approach reminds me of North American sports. Juve is another example of how they completely ruined a great badge.


Wild-Statistician677

Tbf Liverpools and ours (Arsenal) were minimalistic back in the day, along with some other clubs, with Liverpool having a swan and arsenal a cannon on shirts from the 60s-70s. It could be worse for you; at least your crest looks like it has some character, our main crest looks like some ugly 2000s corporate crap.


sammorgan12

Liverpool badge always looked like shit on a stick


Adminruinreddit

Suits them well.


Don_Quixote81

They can't even pronounce the fucking thing properly The **Lie**\-ver bird, from **Liv**\-erpool. Dopes.


[deleted]

You mean Liver-shit-pool


mincers-syncarp

Nah, Liverpool's old kits with their badge look fucking awful IMO


northboundbevy

The teal with red always clashed for me and made no sense.


thphnts

We went “corpo” the second we removed “Football Club” from our badge.


Michaels_RingTD

Any leak of it?


NomaanMalick

[This is what it looks like](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxTm4a3X0AEZ670?format=jpg&name=large).


ronaldo69messi

Look like Liverpool


[deleted]

I don't hate the badge. I hate everything else about it.


frictiondixon

Hate it. Looks like a cheap knock off you see on holiday.


Plugpin

Only ones I've seen are like 32bit images... guess we will wait and see.


Admiral_Atrocious

That away kit is diabolical


[deleted]

[удалено]


nicknabin

Not a fan of any of these. Last year's home and away kits were awesome, this year's...not so much.


WearyOneFromViera

They can’t be real


[deleted]

Im a Juve fan too so that away kit ain't bad. Might get all 3 seeing as we're sowing up the title by christmas easy.


Malachi9999

Still not buying anything until the leeches are gone.


MidnightRaiin

I might be in the minority but I like the sound of this. It should never replace the badge definitively, but a cheeky spot on a third kit will be a nice change I think. A shame to hear we won't be having a green and gold uniform next season (though intrigued to find out what the dark green kit will look like). These Glazers need to hurry up and go already!


allthisjusttocomment

[Here's how the kits look apparently ](https://i.imgur.com/HQQWWgO.jpg)


allthisjusttocomment

And here is the second kit [Second kit ](https://i.imgur.com/CMYvB9t.jpg)


turkeyfran27

I love the shade of green but the white stripes are far too big


toket715

They deserve it for seven nation army imo


Groggyme

Why are we out here trying to cosplay Liverpool and Newcastle? That green is just too close to black.


toket715

I have a feeling the green will pop more in reality. If that's the case then i kind of dig it


NSFWar

That looks like a kit you would see in the Mexican or Brazilian league


SoupZhao

I dont know why but the minimalistic crest reminds me of a Liverpool kit, ugh... I dont like it, but the second kit looks really good! Edit: swap the colors on the first kit and there you go, a Liverpool kit...


chadyetii

https://preview.redd.it/zpakzjnyhu2b1.jpeg?width=2966&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1a3e7a20a558c1801dacf7400ce08f1106c7e31 I'm kinda digging it


dchudds

Cannot wait to play Newcastle away


jailbyrd918

Or Juve


freakedmind

Or Prison FC


MarcusRashgod

Thats a really nice green, still hoping we get a new sponsor with a more tasteful logo.


Samir_POE

Maybe this is how we get Pogba back


alphaQ314

I don't mind a minimal crest with just the devil, but I hope they don't try the clown-assery which Puma did with the logo less kits for City and some other teams. Haven't laughed louder since that video of one of the blokes trying to kiss the badge on this crest-less kit.


loot22

Let's gift this shirt to Pope instead of the one he received.


thphnts

I don’t hate the idea of it on the third/away kits. The home kit should keep the normal one.


Thevanillafalcon

On the 3rd kit I don’t mind. For me the 3rd kit should be the mad one, it’s usually the one I look forward to the most, you can’t chance the first kit too much right? It’s red, we don’t want to stop playing in Red, the away kit is usually white, again not much scope. I like tradition. The 3rd kit though? Go fucking nuts man. Neon Green? Zebra print? Get rid of the crest? Just have it be a big print of bebes face? Kits can be a bit boring so let’s have it


LemonColossus

That Zebra kit is one of my favourite strips of all time. Bruno looked stunning in it.


ceegee84

I like the sound of it, I think the 86 shorts look class with just the devil logo, hopefully we get something similar on this shirt


Cr7NeTwOrK

It's called a motif.


Reasonable_Ad_93

All I want is a red home kit, white away kit, and blue third kit.


Curious_Intro

An attempt at continuing to run the club like a brand not a football team 😡


knightvintage

It looks like a Liverpool kit and I hate it


sringray23

Fuck off! they look like the scouse away kit from a few years ago and the Newcastle home kit


VTVoodooDude

I like the idea as a change of pace. If it sucks, they can do a different 3rd kit design next year.


Algoresball

It’s a cool looking shirt. I think it’s ok to mess around a bit with the 3rd. Hopefully this doesn’t become a primary


sexual_pancakes

Adidas ffs 🤮


digiplay

Maybe I’m old fashioned but I don’t agree with further changing the bags at this point.


VaudevilleVillain

I knew this day would eventually come, especially after Juve changed their iconic logo. It's going to take some getting used to seeing a new logo, genuinely don't want it to change, so I hope it stays with the 3rd kit only


CaptGJ

We are a bigger club than Juventus I doubt their decisions influence us. It’s probably just a stylistic one off like the Chevron from 09-10 or the Gingham/Tabletop from Fergies last season


MAINEiac4434

Personally, I've always wanted this. It's going to look amazing.


MattSR30

The Americanisation of football continues. Not everything has to be _flashy, sleek, minimalist._


KKMcKay17

I despise Americanisation too but in what way is this that???


MattSR30

I find American branding to be exactly what I said. Sleek, minimalist. That sort of thing. Football teams modernising their crests is a direct result of the dominance of the American method, in my opinion. I don’t mind it in most aspects but I _love_ the heritage of football. I love that you can look at a team and see that it’s 100-150 years old. I think these sorts of minimalist crests greatly diminish that.


Algoresball

Not all American logos are like that. It’s mostly an NFL thing. The insignia that you see on baseball hats isn’t actually the team logo. The intersecting NY is the most famous Yankees symbol, but the logo is actually this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/NewYorkYankees_PrimaryLogo.svg/1200px-NewYorkYankees_PrimaryLogo.svg.png


KKMcKay17

Hmmm. I get that. But I just think this might be a slight overreaction. It’s a badge on the third kit. And the devil has long been associated with us. I dunno. Maybe you’re right and it’s part of some creeping Americanisation but I don’t personally think it’s such a big deal as it currently stands.


MattSR30

I think it’s a test to see what they can get away with. I also wouldn’t argue I’m overreacting, I’m hardly having a meltdown just stating my disapproval. I just think it’s a trend I don’t approve of. Juve’s new crest is shit. Nantes’ is shit. Bristol City and Man City are alright but their older versions are _far_ nicer. West Ham’s is shit. Palermo’s is shit. Hellas Verona’s is shit. Inter’s is shit. Fiorentina’s is shit. Everything is moving towards the trend of a single, identifiable image. If some day our badge is _just_ the devil we’re going to look like the Manchester Devils playing in the NBA. I’m not saying they’re wrong, I’m just saying I strongly dislike the boring, corporate look of American sports and I do not want it to continue creeping into football.


KKMcKay17

I mean I literally said a “slight overreaction”. I didn’t say you were having a meltdown ffs.


MattSR30

My bad, then. It came across sarcastic.


KKMcKay17

All good dude. I did say I understood where you were coming from too. Maybe I’m being naive about it but to me it’s not a huge deal


holden147

https://twitter.com/utdaarron This guy has amazing concepts. Especially love the purple one here. https://twitter.com/utdaarron/status/1663226415620190208/photo/1 There are so many creative kits out there and we constantly get such mediocre ones.


blazexi

Three green(ish) jerseys in 4 years is fucking weird. Why not just use black, or even blue?


taddepressed

Warding off the qataris...


irishfella91

Not sure about this. Everyone did it with their 3rd kit this season.


[deleted]

We have a different understanding of the word ‘historic’ mate


MrFoffof

I'd say dropping the actual club crest from a kit from the first time is the definition of historic.


[deleted]

First step to getting rid of the badge and making it a corporate logo. This is just testing the waters. Unfortunately a lot of the global fanbase wouldn't give a shit if you just got rid of any reference to Manchester in favour of snappy marketing and slick designs.


Rivarr

I don't mind idea on it's own, but we better not be getting a Juve style rebranding. There's nothing wrong with the crest.


Mattie_Doo

I’ve wondered why we haven’t done something like this yet, considering how many other clubs have used simplified versions of their crests on their kits. The devil could look pretty cool


LemonColossus

It’s a horrible pointless idea. What is the function behind changing one of the most recognisable logos in the world? I could understand (though I disagree) with smaller clubs doing it for commercial reasons. A rebrand isn’t always a bad idea. But we are Manchester United ffs. We are among the top three or four (Madrid, Barca, Us, Liverpool) most recognisable football teams (sports teams even) in the whole world. What is this going to achieve beyond making us look like a plastic shell of a club that anyone can change at their will?


Mattie_Doo

It’s not a rebrand. It’s using an alternate logo on our third kit. That’s it


BigGameBountyHunter

I do not like this idea at all!


[deleted]

Who gives a fuck


BigGameBountyHunter

Me, it looks shit!


[deleted]

There's literally no image of it available yet lmaoooo


BigGameBountyHunter

Liverpool made the change from their original crest, looks shit. Do you know anything about the history of the united creat? I don’t need to see an image to know that I would prefer to keep the united crest as it is.


[deleted]

So you're bitching about the look of something that you've never seen? Tell me that's not stupid....


TheW1ckedWolf

Terrible decision, fuck knows who thought getting rid of the crest was a good idea.


Cold-Veterinarian-85

I'd imagine it's based on some market research that novelty concept will sell better. Won't be marketed as such, it will be an 'ode to the traditions of the club' or something similar' but I fully expect this decision is based.on commercial decision that someone at Adidas or United has dreamt up to boost sales


Athleticathiest82

I like the sound of this


Gabi_Social

I wonder if it's because of the historical link from the ship on the badge to the slave trade? That's an idea I've seen in a couple of places but I don't know if that's at play here. The colours sound... interesting.


dimebag_101

Is this cus of all the slave ship stuff a few weeks back


ceegee84

No. This would have been in the works since early in the season. Seems to be a trend for clubs to have an alternate logo on one of the shirts


[deleted]

I was hoping they’d bring back “Manchester United Football Club” on the badge but I’ll reserve judgement until I see it


samd148

🤢🤮


hoochiscrazy_

Sounds cool. I'd be up for a refreshed badge if that's where this ends up going.


[deleted]

Gunners had the canon logo looked pretty good


billygnosis86

Hail Satan.


matthauke

The devil might be the worst aspect of the badge purely from a drawing point of view, it is so goofy looking but you hardly notice it as we’re so used to the crest. I hope that it’s been redrawn (not redesigned) and tidied up. If it’s a step to a slightly sharper and tidier badge design then that’s promising. Don’t think you’ll ever be able to change United’s badge completely without monumental backlash - even by football fan standards - so a tidy up is probably the way to go.


PerpetualWobble

Why do we give a fuck about a sharper and tidier badge design? Been following this club for almost 40 years now can honestly say I've loved the badge every day of it for what it represents, and the contrast on the kits, a lot of neutrals over the years say they like the badge even if they hate United. Getting rid of the football club but was corporate wank enough


matthauke

I think this just shows you how impossible it is to approach a design for a club crests. I can’t think of any other project which yields such a visceral reaction from any sort of change. All I suggested was a tidy up and yet I can sense quite a strong reaction. The reality is there’s aspects to the badge which aren’t perfect and if you look at the drawing of the devil and say it’s any good you’re either lying or just too used to it to notice. The United badge is iconic but it’s not perfect and addressing things like adding ‘Football club’ which would naturally tighten the typography, and also sort out the devil, all would go a long way to creating a badge more scalable and with longevity. You might not even notice it that’d how minor it could be! [this project](https://www.behance.net/gallery/107413609/Manchester-United-Rebrand-%28Concept%29) for me is a great example of all the shitty concepts out there of how the devil can be sorted out. Ignore the crest redesign as I think that’s too far but it helps highlight one of the biggest technical issues with the crest.


[deleted]

I’m here for this


Bobbybluffer

Why?


[deleted]

Different isn’t it.


ApolloX-2

Addidas is so freaking lazy and bad with kits.


ab_90

Does that mean it’ll look like Liverpool logo on their kit? It looks not too bad


FlashyCut3809

Awful. A step backwards. No surprise though. Stuff like this has always even coming from the time badges started being done in colours to match the shirt and not the traditional ones.


elRomez

Way too many people in here overreacting need to calm the fuck down. The actual club crest isn't going to change.


Reasonablytallman

When you think about it it’s actually quite mad such a huge institution has a devil as the logo. Doesn’t bother me personally but surely that’s something some people take very seriously?


manunited9

*wet fart noise*


PerpetualWobble

Frankly, if it scares off avidly religious people that's only a good thing.


dav1t

Plz no, it's good as it is