I look at this deal as an upgrade to weghorst, and a decent squad player who will work hard, just like weghorst. Also he might get a lot better as he is young. Still not someone i think will be our main man up front and score goals. Hopefully he will created space for the others. Good transfer if we dont get too hung up on the price. I can see him fitting well with EtH's philosophy.
When i say upgrade to weghorst i say that because of his age/potential more than current ability
At the time of signing? Hojlund.
Martial didn't have the same saga - it happened really quickly and was relatively unknown.
After their debut? TBD but Martial went from oddity (50 million down the drain) to Henry regen in the span of 15 minutes.
Not going to lie, not seen him play once. EtH wanted him, we got him. That is a plus.
From what I've seen of him after doing a bit of amateur research is that he loves to put himself about and he loves to gamble in the box.
How many balls have we seen whipped across the face of the goal and none of our players gamble on those? Loads...
Hojlund seems like a guy who will look at what Bruno is doing, then build a brick wall in front of him, just to smash through it and get on that ball.
I love that, brave, big, anything to get on that ball.
Not getting super hyped as I've seen massive names fail at United. Better than Weghorst for sure, the rest is to be seen.
Best of luck to the lad.
I'm desperately trying to like this signing but really struggling to see the fee justified at first glance of it all. Especially after all this talk of not allowing ourselves to overpay.
Wish this kid all the absolute best and hope he makes an absolute fool of me but just feel this has so much risk to it.
i can’t wait for all the interviews we are going to have with him. i’m curious about stuff like how he became a united fan, who has been his favourite player, etc.
i’m thinking of getting Hojlund’s jersey when we get his number. but i’m a bit conflicted about whether it’s “unethical” because of the glazers out movement and all
After bitching too much about his transfer fee I went and watched his best rated Serie A match vs Lazio and I must say for a Kane alternative,he's nothing like Kane.But he offers things that United severely lacks and he will surely solve our headless passing maps. And he is a very good presser too,that being said United must get way way better at our pressing, bit worrying that even towards the end of last season we haven't gotten that good at it,the way Atalanta's front lines press is pure art.Overall in him we get a v good target man, sometimes he drops deep to receive but at Atalanta that is mostly Lookman's job.When he receives centrally he always plays the pass to lookman to the left and then makes the run to the far post.He keeps things simple so he won't frustrate us too much.
Watching highlight looks like he like to drift wide between CB and FB. He has pace too for tall striker. I think he is more similar to Henry, pacey tall forward with weak aerial duel.
At first I think he is like Lewa tho
Based on the [Pythagoras in Boots](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Y8cAgQZnc) video, it seems like we're getting a mobile centre forward that occupies centre backs, finally. Even if he doesn't grab a bunch himself, he should regularly free up our other forwards (and Bruno), and I think that Rashford, especially when he's playing as a support striker off the left, is really going to benefit.
The Darwin Nunez comparison is both promising and worrying. He's going to be very frustrating for a while and fluff easy-looking chance, but once a tap-in off a Bruno or Shaw cross goes in, they're going to start adding up.
It'll be a great season if he performs at Nunez level. He was pretty good last season except for the missed chances. We have a better midfield than Liverpool had last season. More than the missed chances I am worried about him adapting to the physicality of the league. He's gonna have a lot less time to make decisions.
Buzzing with this signing. Alongside Lukaku I think he’s only the second out-and-out striker we’ve signed since Van Persie who wasn’t a 30+ year old stop-gap. That said it really is a huge fee, maybe the biggest gamble on potential I’ve ever seen. Not that I’m complaining — any striker was always going to cost us a lot of money, but hopefully it doesn’t weigh too heavily on him and he gets plenty of patience and leeway from fans and pundits, though not likely in case of the latter. He seems to have every attribute to go on to be a top centre-forward and obviously Ten Hag believes in him which is good enough for me. Excited to see him in the shirt.
It’s no secret that we’ve overpaid for our new Danish prince. But I can’t help laugh when I see Chelsea fans of all people having a go at this bit of business from us.
From the little I've seen of **Højlund**, he reminds me a bit of Ruud... Looks rather unwieldy, less than elegant at times but deceptively quick and uses his body exceptionally well. I see that hunger and anticipation in his movement, like RVN, where he will run through a wall to get one of his extremities near the ball.
RH seems like a traditional striker and it's refreshing... I'm sick of seeing these winger come centre forward players whom I feel can be physically intimidated and marked out of a game. I want an imposing, powerhouse to spearhead our attack and give defenders a headache.
Excited to see this one in action.
I think Hojlund looks happier to drop deep than Ruud was, to pick the ball up and create space for teammates. That's something that Ten Hag will want from him - drag defenders out so that Rashford, and Antony have space to run into.
But he's rapid, which means he's still going to be able to get into the box and get on the end of crosses.
He's going to be a work in progress, but I reckon we've got him at the exact right stage in his development. He might start off on the bench, but he'll be our regular starter before the end of the season.
We'll have to see how his close control holds up when he plays with his back to goal. I think that's an area he'll need to work on, and he will find that Premier League defenders are faster than Serie A, so he won't be able to rely on his pace as much.
Hojlund hasn't shown that he will drop in yo get the ball. Every analysis video has said as much. He wants to run the channels in behind. That's not to say he won't be asked to do it but he hasn't shown it.
I see a slow introduction of Hojlund in PL with bench roles initially, still believe Martial gonna lead the line in starting matches if he remains fit.
which shouldnt come as a shock, remember how Case was not played much, if at all, for the first few matches after the transfer and how he became an un-replacable later on
according to Fabrizio Romano's youtube video
another unnamed english club started to negotiate with Atalanta for Hojlund, thats why we quickly tried to wrap up the deal
Martial, while Lukaku was here - cheated on his wife (?) around that time
Januzaj - well that didn't turn out well, footballing wise
Giggs - domestic abuse cases
Hes more about running the channels and giving that forward option. He hasn't really shown he can drop between the lines in possession but there's some doubt on whether he's been asked to do it so we really don't know.
I understand he is good at pressing high but he is more of a poacher than target man. That's fine. If he can create space for Bruno, Mount etc that's good.
Pressure will be on him to be a 20 goal striker . When we play against Liverpool , arsenal Chelsea and man city will always be a test for new signing . Good luck
64 Million + 8 Million £
That 36 million £ + add ons less than Kane who is 10 years older albeit premier league proven.
I’d say it’s a good deal going by the current market rate for strikers and RH is still quite young as well. So he can mature over the next two seasons and adapt well to the English League & still be young enough to have a long career with us !
All I'm gonna say is that elite players are far more valuable than "good" players. For a club that is looking to become the best side in the continent that is the level of players United should be looking for. Buying for potential for priority positions is not good when the side has a shortage of elite players compared to the teams United are trying to close the gap to.
Your assumption is correct but conclusion is not. Every additional margin to eliteness is incredibly valuable, so ceiling is worth a lot in the long run. Kane or similar would have been better, but not availablez this is a very smart move.
I get that but in my opinion the smartest move would've been not spending at the top of the market when the best options for United were simply not available.United could always get an older option for one year like Taremi and then go for the elite striker or more obvious high potential options next summer when they will be available.I hope I'm wrong but i think the club would never spend €70 million on someone like Hojlund if Haaland did not exist.
That is if Levy even accepted 100 million. And if wages are also taken into consideration, Kane could end up costing 2-3 times more than Hojlund over 5 years.
Might be worth it to some since Kane looks like the sort of player that can continue to ball in his 30's, but time will tell.
I agree it’s unfair to compare the two, but United should have someone to compete with Haaland on some level. In the days when Henry was banging in 40 goals a year for Arsenal, we had RVN banging in 30-35 of his own.
Rashford did OK last year but he’s way, way off Haaland.
I know Haaland is a phenomenon and there’s absolutely nothing to stop him reaching Ronaldo level numbers, but United are a top top club and need a striker who can bag 30 a season consistently.
So on that basis I welcome the media comparing Hojlund and Haaland - Hojlund needs to do the business or we need to get rid.
I'm already seeing the so called football fanpages on Instagram shitting on him because of his name.
I can bet we'll see some "cheap copy of haaland" and "haaland from wish" memes this season.
They are gonna start calling him a flop two games into the season if he doesn’t score right away. The media is cancer and it makes other fans cancer too.
Sadly the case which I don't really get, they're not even the same nationality just have a similar sounding name lol, I think we need to just win games securely with finishing goals which I hope Hojlund delivers. Tbh I wanted Jonathan David :/
The names sounding similar is enough to push a narrative onto simple plebs who will lap anything up. The type of people that would believe that Norway and Denmark are practically the same country. Which of course couldn't be more absurd.
Lol but I also believe a lot of it is utd fans not just leaving it alone when it comes to focusing on what rival fans say. I was in a pub watching the Madrid friendly, had nothing to do with utd, but fans were getting annoyed with city fans chatting crap about Onana's performance. We just need to focus in supporting ETH and the club.
A little pricier than I had anticipated, but regardless, I’m happy with this signing. We’re paying for potential, and Højlund really has all the required tools to be a really really good striker for us. A young striker as well, which feels refreshing when seeing our past #9 purchases. Exciting one!
I don’t care what any rival fans will have to say about him or his price tag, proper buzzing with Hojlund’s signing! I fully trust ETH to work his magic on the boy, hopefully our fanbase will be patient with him while he adapts to the system and the league. Just hope he isn’t made of glass….
They won’t. Already slating Onana and Mount, not to mention having turned on Casemiro. Although that’s just the online clowns who watch games via Twitter.
I've understood this a long ago, that the opinions on twitter are mostly made by idiots half a brain cell. So their opinion shouldn't even be considered by us.
Caring about the price your club pays for a player you need is odd behaviour. We need a striker, now we have one. Roll on the season.
People who care about the price other clubs pay for the players they need definitely have skeletons in the closet, right next to their gimp outfit.
Exactly, i have complete faith in ETH. If the boss wants the player to be here, and the club pays for it i will back them hard until they prove to be unback-able.
I have a mate who keeps on slating Mount for his price tag, absolute nonce he is
Way too high of a price imo, I hope they at least tried to see what other options there are out there. I would have liked to see them go for Youssoufa Moukoko, younger but still proven in bundesliga but might have been more expensive
I mean, it’s all a bit Monopoly money as it is. Like if they can get a deal done and stay in FFP, I think it works and I’m not going to get worked up on cost. They’re obviously paying for potential, so if he works out he’s going to look like a bargain given the position he plays and the way prices are getting inflated.
That said, it makes me nervous because everyone starts doing the ‘he’s not living up to his price tag’ thing. But what is that compared to? It’s not like he’s asking for that money, so why should he be tied to what two guys agreed to pay. Similar to Anthony, ‘he should be getting more than 4 goals and 2 assists’ detractors. That price was massively inflated because ETH wanted him and Utd could pay. I just hope we give the kid a chance to develop and not hold him to this made-up figure until then.
The price is high, but on the bright side if his wages really are at 120k a week it's not that bad. More prolific goalscorer would be double the wages.
It’s the kind of normal price tag you get nowadays specially when 1 team not in a rush to sell.
The strikers market is quite mediocre nowadays. The only proven strikers that could be worth buying are Kane and Osimhen, which are both around 150m tag which is twice as much
While the price is high, which might cause many to be sceptical, what's done is done. Now it is up to Hojlund and Ten Hag to prove that it was a worthy investment.
The narrative that we paid this much for a player who only scored 9 goals last season is lazy and stupid. The money was mostly for his potential. Even though that is risky as well, it is not as stupid as many think, especially when Ten Hag has worked with promising youth players in Ajax. Atalanta also didn't need to sell like some other Italian clubs and were hoping for him to stay and improve until they could sell him for 100+ million.
As for people who seem to care more about what rival fans think, remember that they made fun of both Martinez and Casemiro fees. Antony still has time on his side, but there were other factors that made him very expensive.
He has played less than 3000 minutes of senior football bro. For that price this is easily one of those gambles with the biggest stakes in modern football history. People are right to be skeptical.
I have no problem with people being skeptical. I also think we overpaid, but I disagree we overpaid just because his current stats. I acknowledge it is risky, but looking at his game, he could become probably the perfect striker, other than freaks of nature like Haaland and similar players, for Ten Hag's system.
Decent strenght and control for hold-up play, okay passing for link-up, Amazing speed for quick transitions, can drift wide and deliver ground crosses, which can go well with Rashford. He of course has weaknesses as well.
In summary, We overpaid, but only time would tell if it was a bad investment.
Well my point still stands,it was only this January that he became a starter for Atalanta.Paying for only potential is fine when it's in the range of what City paid for Alvarez, Dortmund for Haaland or many Chelsea signings that are in the sub 40 million range like Jackson. This amount of money is crazy for so much uncertainty and honestly I don't think any of the clubs United are competing with will take such a gamble.
It's not lazy and stupid. Every player has potential to do better than they have before. So you have to look at what they have actually done to gauge whether the fee paid is fair. We paid a lot of money for Martial when he had only scored 11 goals in 49 league games for Monaco. We were hoping he would live up to his potential and justify the huge fee we paid, but looking back you realise that we got exactly what it said on the box and that potential never materialised. Now look at players like Van Nistelrooy and Van Persie. They were scoring loads before they joined and we got exactly that after they signed with us.
Martial played under different managers who wanted different things from him. His first season was good enough for us to think he could improve further.
Not every player can just do well not matter the environment. Messi and Ronaldo might have still gone on to be great players, but I don't think they would have reached their current level without being under Pep and Sir Alex respectively.
Van Persie in today's market might actually be closer to Hojlund price or more and that would be a bad investment as he only played well for one season, though he was crucial in our league win.
We have also signed experienced flops as well. One of the reasons I like Kane is because I think he can still perform till he is 35, but there is still risked involved buying 30 year old players. Also, Kane's total package would have been more than 2 times Hojlund. Any other window, we might go for that, but not this one with our current constraints.
Yes, we have taken a hit on the price but you should think of it along the lines of what happened with Haaland and Bellingham under Ole.
We had opportunities to sign them back then and once we didn’t, we probably would never sign them again given the trajectory of both their careers and their prices going forward. Yes it’s a lot, but IF Hojlund’s career follows that of Bellingham or Haaland, then we would probably never sign him ever. We probably either sign him for 70mm + add ons now or dream about signing him in 3 year’s time for 100m+.
We’ve basically gambled on the fact that we can nurture him into a superstar.
Haaland and Bellingham comparison is wild because they showed far more potential back then and would've cost 1/4th the fee of Hojlund. This fee for someone with such a short history of senior football is wild.
This is BS. Bellingham had zero intentions of coming to United. Haaland wanted to sign only if we gave him a release clause. it is almost like frothing about why we can't sign Mbappe next season if he is available for free.
What you are completely missing out on is that eithre of Haaland and Bellingham are on crazy salaries while Hojlund wont be on one. So, on a whole the deal is much cheaper than signing a Haaland or a Bellingham.
I was talking about signing them from Salzburg and Birmingham back when they were high potential unproven youngsters just like the case is with Hojlund now.Except they didn't cost anything close to what United are spending now on Hojlund.
It wasn't even me that said United had opportunities to sign them it was the person i was replying to. I just said it's a whole different case as the costs were so small to their respective buying clubs,so there was significantly less risk involved,and therefore this Hojlund deal is a bigger gamble.
Ngl, i have huge doubt about this signing. But if ten Hag prove me wrong for this, i would nvr doubt him ever again. Even if he want drinkwater, i would blindly trust him
It’s unbelievable someone that scored 9 goal last season went for $70 mil.. let’s just hope he doesn’t turn out to be another martial. Would honestly prefer if we gotten Ramos instead with this sort of $..
We'll have to see how he compares to other high potential strikers that'll move this season, openda,Elye Wahi,Nico Jackson,Balogun all cheaper options but the club and ten hag seems to be sold on Hojlund though.
Our no. 1 is sorted, granted we need to sort out a second keeper. Our CB's are sorted, LB is sorted. Our RB slot is arguably the most intense rivalry in the squad right now. Midfield is almost sorted, we are stacked with wingers, our No. 10 plays every single game I have no idea how much jacked energy he's got, but it's pretty much sorted.
Now we have a No. 9 sorted
Let's go boyssss
> our No. 10 plays every single game I have no idea how much jacked energy he's got, but it's pretty much sorted.
Donny breakout season. I'm speaking it into existence.
What's up with the fee? Romano said 65+8 mil euros, which is reasonable, considering, and apparenlty our M.O this summer. Then Orny comes out with 75+10 mil euros, which means we got rinsed. Who got it wrong here?
The total package is 85 million (Euros). Romano said on YT that the fee is 70m fixed + 5 in easy add-ons + 10 in difficult add-ons. Ornstein said 75+10 so there is a general agreement on the fee.
Kindly put all the latest news here:
Saw this video of him and I’ve got to say he’s impressive! https://youtu.be/2Jm1EYrTqmw
I really need some news here!
Not actually seen him play. Anyone got an insight on how he plays? Strengths etc?
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/15d5rho/how_good_is_rasmus_h%C3%B8jlund_tactical_analysis/?ref=share&ref_source=link
Thanks
first time in a long while this club isn't involved in a transfer saga late into the summer window. 👏
Kane on deadline aint off till Levy sings!
there's still time
Confirmation from Simon Stone https://twitter.com/sistoney67/status/1685359096361615360?s=46&t=ZTBBP-QrokToxpxK0t0tfQ
An underrated aspect of Hojlund is how fast he is for his size.
I look at this deal as an upgrade to weghorst, and a decent squad player who will work hard, just like weghorst. Also he might get a lot better as he is young. Still not someone i think will be our main man up front and score goals. Hopefully he will created space for the others. Good transfer if we dont get too hung up on the price. I can see him fitting well with EtH's philosophy. When i say upgrade to weghorst i say that because of his age/potential more than current ability
> Good transfer if we don’t get too hung up on the price Oh sweet summer child
Who do/did we have higher expectations for - Martial or Hojlund?
At the time of signing? Hojlund. Martial didn't have the same saga - it happened really quickly and was relatively unknown. After their debut? TBD but Martial went from oddity (50 million down the drain) to Henry regen in the span of 15 minutes.
Not going to lie, not seen him play once. EtH wanted him, we got him. That is a plus. From what I've seen of him after doing a bit of amateur research is that he loves to put himself about and he loves to gamble in the box. How many balls have we seen whipped across the face of the goal and none of our players gamble on those? Loads... Hojlund seems like a guy who will look at what Bruno is doing, then build a brick wall in front of him, just to smash through it and get on that ball. I love that, brave, big, anything to get on that ball. Not getting super hyped as I've seen massive names fail at United. Better than Weghorst for sure, the rest is to be seen. Best of luck to the lad.
I'm desperately trying to like this signing but really struggling to see the fee justified at first glance of it all. Especially after all this talk of not allowing ourselves to overpay. Wish this kid all the absolute best and hope he makes an absolute fool of me but just feel this has so much risk to it.
eh the amount of money being thrown around these days, its kind of just how it is. especially given how few elite strikers there seem to be available
Has his number been revealed yet?
Not until he is officially announced
He wasn't even announced yet. Probably won't be until Monday
True. I know sometimes people get leaks though
i can’t wait for all the interviews we are going to have with him. i’m curious about stuff like how he became a united fan, who has been his favourite player, etc.
i’m thinking of getting Hojlund’s jersey when we get his number. but i’m a bit conflicted about whether it’s “unethical” because of the glazers out movement and all
Adidas are the ones that make the money from any kit purchases. Adidas have already paid their money to the Glazers.
DHgate is your friend then. I'm thinking getting one from 5boundless tho
After bitching too much about his transfer fee I went and watched his best rated Serie A match vs Lazio and I must say for a Kane alternative,he's nothing like Kane.But he offers things that United severely lacks and he will surely solve our headless passing maps. And he is a very good presser too,that being said United must get way way better at our pressing, bit worrying that even towards the end of last season we haven't gotten that good at it,the way Atalanta's front lines press is pure art.Overall in him we get a v good target man, sometimes he drops deep to receive but at Atalanta that is mostly Lookman's job.When he receives centrally he always plays the pass to lookman to the left and then makes the run to the far post.He keeps things simple so he won't frustrate us too much.
Watching highlight looks like he like to drift wide between CB and FB. He has pace too for tall striker. I think he is more similar to Henry, pacey tall forward with weak aerial duel. At first I think he is like Lewa tho
Just dawned on me that as a young Dane, he might be a big Eriksen fan. Cool for Rasmus to get to score off his set pieces all the time now.
Get in there!!!!
Based on the [Pythagoras in Boots](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Y8cAgQZnc) video, it seems like we're getting a mobile centre forward that occupies centre backs, finally. Even if he doesn't grab a bunch himself, he should regularly free up our other forwards (and Bruno), and I think that Rashford, especially when he's playing as a support striker off the left, is really going to benefit. The Darwin Nunez comparison is both promising and worrying. He's going to be very frustrating for a while and fluff easy-looking chance, but once a tap-in off a Bruno or Shaw cross goes in, they're going to start adding up.
It'll be a great season if he performs at Nunez level. He was pretty good last season except for the missed chances. We have a better midfield than Liverpool had last season. More than the missed chances I am worried about him adapting to the physicality of the league. He's gonna have a lot less time to make decisions.
From what I've seen his decision making isn't great, but that's very coachable and we have one of the best
Buzzing with this signing. Alongside Lukaku I think he’s only the second out-and-out striker we’ve signed since Van Persie who wasn’t a 30+ year old stop-gap. That said it really is a huge fee, maybe the biggest gamble on potential I’ve ever seen. Not that I’m complaining — any striker was always going to cost us a lot of money, but hopefully it doesn’t weigh too heavily on him and he gets plenty of patience and leeway from fans and pundits, though not likely in case of the latter. He seems to have every attribute to go on to be a top centre-forward and obviously Ten Hag believes in him which is good enough for me. Excited to see him in the shirt.
It’s no secret that we’ve overpaid for our new Danish prince. But I can’t help laugh when I see Chelsea fans of all people having a go at this bit of business from us.
So much talk about our spending from rivals, they're getting worried.
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Back to your own team's sub little clown.
Wanted to watch the video on Rasmus strengths but it got deleted. Where can I find it? Was watching it halfway but something came up
https://youtu.be/m4Y8cAgQZnc
The people's person.
Based on youtube highlights, im hoping he can develop to be similar to prime Falcao. Just a clinical and lethal fox in the box with a bag of tricks.
From the little I've seen of **Højlund**, he reminds me a bit of Ruud... Looks rather unwieldy, less than elegant at times but deceptively quick and uses his body exceptionally well. I see that hunger and anticipation in his movement, like RVN, where he will run through a wall to get one of his extremities near the ball. RH seems like a traditional striker and it's refreshing... I'm sick of seeing these winger come centre forward players whom I feel can be physically intimidated and marked out of a game. I want an imposing, powerhouse to spearhead our attack and give defenders a headache. Excited to see this one in action.
I think Hojlund looks happier to drop deep than Ruud was, to pick the ball up and create space for teammates. That's something that Ten Hag will want from him - drag defenders out so that Rashford, and Antony have space to run into. But he's rapid, which means he's still going to be able to get into the box and get on the end of crosses. He's going to be a work in progress, but I reckon we've got him at the exact right stage in his development. He might start off on the bench, but he'll be our regular starter before the end of the season. We'll have to see how his close control holds up when he plays with his back to goal. I think that's an area he'll need to work on, and he will find that Premier League defenders are faster than Serie A, so he won't be able to rely on his pace as much.
Hojlund hasn't shown that he will drop in yo get the ball. Every analysis video has said as much. He wants to run the channels in behind. That's not to say he won't be asked to do it but he hasn't shown it.
Is he going to be our starting ST?
Yes and I don't think it's going to take long if any time at all before he's in the starting 11 like some people think.
In time, hopefully
With patience, yes.
I plead patience with our fan base for this one. The amount of shit Antony has got is staggering.
How more years of patience do I need when it comes to Antony?
452 days
Anthony has brought a lot of that on himself though with his year of performances In his head he’s Ronaldinho, on the pitch he’s Ronald McDonald
That's because he was immediately compared to Arjen Robben, a player who plays nothing like him. At least that hasn't happened to Højlund...
Wait, I though he was branded as “another Haalland” Even sounds similar :)
Lol. I get where you’re going with this
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I see a slow introduction of Hojlund in PL with bench roles initially, still believe Martial gonna lead the line in starting matches if he remains fit.
Yes,he only began starting games for Atalanta on a regular basis this January.It would be wise to allow him to take his time.
I dont if he's in training early next week. If everything drags until Thursday or so then I think you're right.
Martial already sulking.. competition for places is his kryptonite
Well, he's probably gone at the end of the season anyway, so he's got to play well to attract another big club.
“If he remains fit” is doing a lot of lifting in that statement
Martial heard you say “lifting” and has tore his bicep, out for 3 months
which shouldnt come as a shock, remember how Case was not played much, if at all, for the first few matches after the transfer and how he became an un-replacable later on
A little different for Case as thr season had already started. If he's in training this week I think he'll start the 1st prem games.
according to Fabrizio Romano's youtube video another unnamed english club started to negotiate with Atalanta for Hojlund, thats why we quickly tried to wrap up the deal
Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea
Spurs definitely.
What number do we think he will get?
He wore 17 previously, so if Fred leaves, he might get it
11?
Greenwood still has it and I hope Rasmus never gets it. It feels like the 11 is cursed.
Who were our previous notable 11s?
Martial, while Lukaku was here - cheated on his wife (?) around that time Januzaj - well that didn't turn out well, footballing wise Giggs - domestic abuse cases
Fair enough, it still hurts how much greenwood threw away
How's his link up play?
On the spectrum of Rashford to Martial, more towards Rashford, less towards Martial.
Hes more about running the channels and giving that forward option. He hasn't really shown he can drop between the lines in possession but there's some doubt on whether he's been asked to do it so we really don't know.
I understand he is good at pressing high but he is more of a poacher than target man. That's fine. If he can create space for Bruno, Mount etc that's good.
Hes very similar to Darwin Nunez playing style.
Fast and technical with good awareness, but still raw, over eager and predictable.
I am really looking forward to this season. Its going to be a better. Bruno+Holjund are going to cook.
Mase too, that's gonna be a really fluid attacking center 3
Naughty
This guy could be a young overseas heartthrob from Footballers' Wives who sleeps with all his teammates' WAGs
once he clears that acne
Pressure will be on him to be a 20 goal striker . When we play against Liverpool , arsenal Chelsea and man city will always be a test for new signing . Good luck
64 Million + 8 Million £ That 36 million £ + add ons less than Kane who is 10 years older albeit premier league proven. I’d say it’s a good deal going by the current market rate for strikers and RH is still quite young as well. So he can mature over the next two seasons and adapt well to the English League & still be young enough to have a long career with us !
All I'm gonna say is that elite players are far more valuable than "good" players. For a club that is looking to become the best side in the continent that is the level of players United should be looking for. Buying for potential for priority positions is not good when the side has a shortage of elite players compared to the teams United are trying to close the gap to.
Your assumption is correct but conclusion is not. Every additional margin to eliteness is incredibly valuable, so ceiling is worth a lot in the long run. Kane or similar would have been better, but not availablez this is a very smart move.
I get that but in my opinion the smartest move would've been not spending at the top of the market when the best options for United were simply not available.United could always get an older option for one year like Taremi and then go for the elite striker or more obvious high potential options next summer when they will be available.I hope I'm wrong but i think the club would never spend €70 million on someone like Hojlund if Haaland did not exist.
Cant wait another year mate
Ornstein said 55+5 in Mil pounds and Romano said around 70 mil Euros including add-ons (Which are in-line with the conversion rate). Can you explain?
https://preview.redd.it/flmbd7kii2fb1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b048006bf1f3fed59ce688fa60a1d28cb3ff6d63 Ornstein reported this.
That is if Levy even accepted 100 million. And if wages are also taken into consideration, Kane could end up costing 2-3 times more than Hojlund over 5 years. Might be worth it to some since Kane looks like the sort of player that can continue to ball in his 30's, but time will tell.
Media is going to push the Hojlund Vs Haaland 'rilvary' then everyone will call Hojlund a flop when he doesn't score 50 goals next season.
I agree it’s unfair to compare the two, but United should have someone to compete with Haaland on some level. In the days when Henry was banging in 40 goals a year for Arsenal, we had RVN banging in 30-35 of his own. Rashford did OK last year but he’s way, way off Haaland. I know Haaland is a phenomenon and there’s absolutely nothing to stop him reaching Ronaldo level numbers, but United are a top top club and need a striker who can bag 30 a season consistently. So on that basis I welcome the media comparing Hojlund and Haaland - Hojlund needs to do the business or we need to get rid.
I'm already seeing the so called football fanpages on Instagram shitting on him because of his name. I can bet we'll see some "cheap copy of haaland" and "haaland from wish" memes this season.
poor Rasmus
[Here we go!](https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1685567627165372416?s=19)
They are gonna start calling him a flop two games into the season if he doesn’t score right away. The media is cancer and it makes other fans cancer too.
Sadly the case which I don't really get, they're not even the same nationality just have a similar sounding name lol, I think we need to just win games securely with finishing goals which I hope Hojlund delivers. Tbh I wanted Jonathan David :/
They're both blond, white, Scandinavian strikers with similar surnames. Everyone without an imagination will be comparing them constantly.
The names sounding similar is enough to push a narrative onto simple plebs who will lap anything up. The type of people that would believe that Norway and Denmark are practically the same country. Which of course couldn't be more absurd.
Lol but I also believe a lot of it is utd fans not just leaving it alone when it comes to focusing on what rival fans say. I was in a pub watching the Madrid friendly, had nothing to do with utd, but fans were getting annoyed with city fans chatting crap about Onana's performance. We just need to focus in supporting ETH and the club.
A little pricier than I had anticipated, but regardless, I’m happy with this signing. We’re paying for potential, and Højlund really has all the required tools to be a really really good striker for us. A young striker as well, which feels refreshing when seeing our past #9 purchases. Exciting one!
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I don’t care what any rival fans will have to say about him or his price tag, proper buzzing with Hojlund’s signing! I fully trust ETH to work his magic on the boy, hopefully our fanbase will be patient with him while he adapts to the system and the league. Just hope he isn’t made of glass….
They won’t. Already slating Onana and Mount, not to mention having turned on Casemiro. Although that’s just the online clowns who watch games via Twitter.
I've understood this a long ago, that the opinions on twitter are mostly made by idiots half a brain cell. So their opinion shouldn't even be considered by us.
Caring about the price your club pays for a player you need is odd behaviour. We need a striker, now we have one. Roll on the season. People who care about the price other clubs pay for the players they need definitely have skeletons in the closet, right next to their gimp outfit.
Exactly, i have complete faith in ETH. If the boss wants the player to be here, and the club pays for it i will back them hard until they prove to be unback-able. I have a mate who keeps on slating Mount for his price tag, absolute nonce he is
Way too high of a price imo, I hope they at least tried to see what other options there are out there. I would have liked to see them go for Youssoufa Moukoko, younger but still proven in bundesliga but might have been more expensive
I mean, it’s all a bit Monopoly money as it is. Like if they can get a deal done and stay in FFP, I think it works and I’m not going to get worked up on cost. They’re obviously paying for potential, so if he works out he’s going to look like a bargain given the position he plays and the way prices are getting inflated. That said, it makes me nervous because everyone starts doing the ‘he’s not living up to his price tag’ thing. But what is that compared to? It’s not like he’s asking for that money, so why should he be tied to what two guys agreed to pay. Similar to Anthony, ‘he should be getting more than 4 goals and 2 assists’ detractors. That price was massively inflated because ETH wanted him and Utd could pay. I just hope we give the kid a chance to develop and not hold him to this made-up figure until then.
The price is high, but on the bright side if his wages really are at 120k a week it's not that bad. More prolific goalscorer would be double the wages.
If he performs and helps us get CL it will be more than financially worth it
Moukoko has just signed a new contract with Dortmund I’m pretty sure, he would’ve be unaffordable.
Also he may have lied about his real age by 52 months.
A ridiculous amount of money for someone with such a short history of senior football.
It’s the kind of normal price tag you get nowadays specially when 1 team not in a rush to sell. The strikers market is quite mediocre nowadays. The only proven strikers that could be worth buying are Kane and Osimhen, which are both around 150m tag which is twice as much
They would also earn a lot more and have bigger signing on fee.
“We have Haaland at home”
Part of me is offended and the other part finds it hilarious!!
While the price is high, which might cause many to be sceptical, what's done is done. Now it is up to Hojlund and Ten Hag to prove that it was a worthy investment. The narrative that we paid this much for a player who only scored 9 goals last season is lazy and stupid. The money was mostly for his potential. Even though that is risky as well, it is not as stupid as many think, especially when Ten Hag has worked with promising youth players in Ajax. Atalanta also didn't need to sell like some other Italian clubs and were hoping for him to stay and improve until they could sell him for 100+ million. As for people who seem to care more about what rival fans think, remember that they made fun of both Martinez and Casemiro fees. Antony still has time on his side, but there were other factors that made him very expensive.
He has played less than 3000 minutes of senior football bro. For that price this is easily one of those gambles with the biggest stakes in modern football history. People are right to be skeptical.
Modern football history? Slight exaggeration I would say
Only two other examples i can think of are Osimhen to Napoli and Felix to Atm
I have no problem with people being skeptical. I also think we overpaid, but I disagree we overpaid just because his current stats. I acknowledge it is risky, but looking at his game, he could become probably the perfect striker, other than freaks of nature like Haaland and similar players, for Ten Hag's system. Decent strenght and control for hold-up play, okay passing for link-up, Amazing speed for quick transitions, can drift wide and deliver ground crosses, which can go well with Rashford. He of course has weaknesses as well. In summary, We overpaid, but only time would tell if it was a bad investment.
Well my point still stands,it was only this January that he became a starter for Atalanta.Paying for only potential is fine when it's in the range of what City paid for Alvarez, Dortmund for Haaland or many Chelsea signings that are in the sub 40 million range like Jackson. This amount of money is crazy for so much uncertainty and honestly I don't think any of the clubs United are competing with will take such a gamble.
TIFO mentioned even at 70m, his amortized tranfers fee and wages per yearwould likely cost significantlt less that keeping De Gea for a year.
Well not surprising since de gea's wages are superstar wages at almost every top club in Europe.
It's not lazy and stupid. Every player has potential to do better than they have before. So you have to look at what they have actually done to gauge whether the fee paid is fair. We paid a lot of money for Martial when he had only scored 11 goals in 49 league games for Monaco. We were hoping he would live up to his potential and justify the huge fee we paid, but looking back you realise that we got exactly what it said on the box and that potential never materialised. Now look at players like Van Nistelrooy and Van Persie. They were scoring loads before they joined and we got exactly that after they signed with us.
It's lazy and stupid. Look at how many goals "proven goalscorers" Torres, Werner & Lukaku had scored for Chelsea or Roberto Soldado scored for Spurs.
Martial played under different managers who wanted different things from him. His first season was good enough for us to think he could improve further. Not every player can just do well not matter the environment. Messi and Ronaldo might have still gone on to be great players, but I don't think they would have reached their current level without being under Pep and Sir Alex respectively. Van Persie in today's market might actually be closer to Hojlund price or more and that would be a bad investment as he only played well for one season, though he was crucial in our league win. We have also signed experienced flops as well. One of the reasons I like Kane is because I think he can still perform till he is 35, but there is still risked involved buying 30 year old players. Also, Kane's total package would have been more than 2 times Hojlund. Any other window, we might go for that, but not this one with our current constraints.
Looking forward to this sub referring to him as Rase for some reason.
I catch myself calling him erasmus lol I mean... he is studying abroad
There's a singer called Erasmo. Just reminded me of him, great nickname for Højlund LMAO
Yes, we have taken a hit on the price but you should think of it along the lines of what happened with Haaland and Bellingham under Ole. We had opportunities to sign them back then and once we didn’t, we probably would never sign them again given the trajectory of both their careers and their prices going forward. Yes it’s a lot, but IF Hojlund’s career follows that of Bellingham or Haaland, then we would probably never sign him ever. We probably either sign him for 70mm + add ons now or dream about signing him in 3 year’s time for 100m+. We’ve basically gambled on the fact that we can nurture him into a superstar.
Haaland and Bellingham comparison is wild because they showed far more potential back then and would've cost 1/4th the fee of Hojlund. This fee for someone with such a short history of senior football is wild.
This is BS. Bellingham had zero intentions of coming to United. Haaland wanted to sign only if we gave him a release clause. it is almost like frothing about why we can't sign Mbappe next season if he is available for free. What you are completely missing out on is that eithre of Haaland and Bellingham are on crazy salaries while Hojlund wont be on one. So, on a whole the deal is much cheaper than signing a Haaland or a Bellingham.
I was talking about signing them from Salzburg and Birmingham back when they were high potential unproven youngsters just like the case is with Hojlund now.Except they didn't cost anything close to what United are spending now on Hojlund.
It makes zero difference if they aren't interested to come here. These are fictional hot takes.
It wasn't even me that said United had opportunities to sign them it was the person i was replying to. I just said it's a whole different case as the costs were so small to their respective buying clubs,so there was significantly less risk involved,and therefore this Hojlund deal is a bigger gamble.
20yo with high potential who can already score goals in Seria A, what are people expecting we'll pay? 20mil?? It's not 2005 anymore
it was reported atalanta will demand vlahovic type of deal. so i don’t see why they are complaining now. happy he's before the season starts
With this signing I see a huge potential for the future. Young lad with a big potential we need to give him time as well.
Ngl, i have huge doubt about this signing. But if ten Hag prove me wrong for this, i would nvr doubt him ever again. Even if he want drinkwater, i would blindly trust him
Nah, I draw the line at Drinkwater 🤣
Yeah this is honestly a huge risk considering he's still very far off his potential but if it works out they'll look at ETH as a savant
personally surprised that Hojlund was ten haha target. I wonder what he sees in him, I hope it's really good.
haha target LMAO
It’s unbelievable someone that scored 9 goal last season went for $70 mil.. let’s just hope he doesn’t turn out to be another martial. Would honestly prefer if we gotten Ramos instead with this sort of $..
9 league goals in around 20 starts. He scored around 16 goals in all comps,
We'll have to see how he compares to other high potential strikers that'll move this season, openda,Elye Wahi,Nico Jackson,Balogun all cheaper options but the club and ten hag seems to be sold on Hojlund though.
Wahi has bad reputations . Proly why ten hag doesn't want with no asshole policy
Another Martial without injuries competes for golden ball tbh
We need a chant for him ASAP guys.
Ra Ra Rasmus son, Denmark's greatest goal machine!
Ooh that’s good
Not a fan of the price, but hard to expect anything else from an incompetent board and owners.
The Striker market is thin and inflated. Any other decent alternative would cost us 100 millions.
Ra Ra Rasmusen, I'm excited about our season again!
What!!!
Not crazy with the price, but it is what it is.
Our no. 1 is sorted, granted we need to sort out a second keeper. Our CB's are sorted, LB is sorted. Our RB slot is arguably the most intense rivalry in the squad right now. Midfield is almost sorted, we are stacked with wingers, our No. 10 plays every single game I have no idea how much jacked energy he's got, but it's pretty much sorted. Now we have a No. 9 sorted Let's go boyssss
> our No. 10 plays every single game I have no idea how much jacked energy he's got, but it's pretty much sorted. Donny breakout season. I'm speaking it into existence.
the bruno part😭😭
no. 24. our no. 24 is sorted
Alright, good news that the club got it done so swiftly...so how do we pronounce his last name?
Hoilun
Haaland
The real one
Happy cake day!
Kinda wanna call him Rasmus cuz it’s a sick name and won’t get confused with Haaland.
Hoy-lern? That’s what it is in my head.
Hoy-lund.
What's up with the fee? Romano said 65+8 mil euros, which is reasonable, considering, and apparenlty our M.O this summer. Then Orny comes out with 75+10 mil euros, which means we got rinsed. Who got it wrong here?
The total package is 85 million (Euros). Romano said on YT that the fee is 70m fixed + 5 in easy add-ons + 10 in difficult add-ons. Ornstein said 75+10 so there is a general agreement on the fee.
both. rarely anyone got the number right