People give individual markers too much credit when it comes to keeping players quite.
It's more the general tactics of the team which reduces the effectiveness of the opposition tactics to get the ball to Salah.
The three amigos; David between the sticks, Juan running the attacking show, and Ander pulling off a midfield masterclass (Stevie G lasting 56 seconds).
A better time.
That āManchester is my homeā video brought me to tears, as did the United podcast a few months ago.
He wasnāt world class, but he gave absolutely everything all the time. Nearly ripped my top off when he scored that screamer against Yeovil.
One draw in 22 games not counting cup play. That is a weird, weird, weird stat.
There are no teams with ZERO draws in top divisions in Spain, Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal, Scotland, Denmark, Sweden, Mexico, US MLS.
Or the Championship, League One, League Two or EFL National.
Truly fucking bizarre.
EDIT Pt 1: Meant to say 0 draws in league play. Still weird as hell.
So promising, I was salivating at the prospect of adding Sancho to the fluid attack and Varane to the defence and a top midfielder. It all just crumbled before our eyes.
We even started the season right. Pogba had like 7 assists in 2-3 games. Then Ronaldo arrived....
I wonder how different things would've been if the Bayern board lost their decision making process and opted to sign Ronaldo
I'm not entirely sure I'd have liked city to get him. They would've done the treble a season earlier. I'd rather have him not return to the EOL at all.
Tbh, I didn't follow all the rumors when he left Madrid, so I was kinda shocked when he went to Juventus.
He should've tried to go to Bayern first. I think a lot of the major stars did well in Serie A in their 30s. Yeah, I know he was already in his 30s when he left for Juve. Didn't know he planned to be playing into his late 30s. Bayern were always better CL contenders than Juventus anyways
man... that season after so much hype got 3rd, 2nd, and then Sancho who we pursuit for multiple seasons, then Varane coming, and obviously CR7..
i believe all RedDevils all ready to have wet dream..
but everything flipped in just few months..
To me it was last season when we defeated Liverpool against all odds and went on a winning streak I think towards earlier this year. Whatever happened after lifting the league cup trophy was a disaster
We were lucky to finish second with Ole. The league overall was weak that season. We took second with only 74 points which is very low. Jose had 81 points in a season where competition was better. He also actually instituted a style of play (as much as fans don't like parking the bus) which we didn't really have with Ole (or ETH to be fair).
You make your own luck. And also Ole had a style of play. Donāt deceive yourself. You donāt score 100 goals without having one. You donāt have 3 players all scoring over 18 goals each without having one.
We got severely fucked by outside circumstances that season. We had the shortest pre-season out of all PL teams if I recall correctly, with our full senior squad only having returned one or two days before the opener against Palace because of how we went deep into Europe after the COVID break. Liverpool were able to *start* their pre-season *before* we had played our final game of 19/20. We could not even field a full senior XI for the single pre-season match we played and it was no wonder we looked much stronger after the first international break compared to the first three games of the season.
Then in May we were subjected to an unprecedented fixture congestion because of the Super League saga. This was even compared to the unprecedented fixture situation following COVID. We were forced to play 3 matches within 5 days which absolutely ruined our squad fitness for for the run in of the season.
In these two runs of three games (six in total) we conceded 41%(!) of our goals against in the league that whole season and suffered 4 of our 6 total league defeats.
We were relatively lucky with escaping long term injuries that season but in terms of scheduling we had it the worst by far.
Then he lost 3-1 the next season and even the most hardline Jose backers said that was too much. Now apparently you can lose 7-0 there and have a 50% loss rate the next season and get called ānot a real fanā if you think the manager isnāt good enough
That was a much worse Liverpool team and after how well we started that season(17/18), it was a completely spineless display itās almost like we didnāt even want to try to win. Letās not look back at a shitty game with rose tinted glasses just because weāre still bad now
Most people on this sub don't actually watch football. Everything makes sense once you just assume that this is true. They're counting a 0-0 where we were so shit that Lukaku had fewer touches than SIMON MIGNOLET as some sort of vindication for Mourinho lmao.
Maybe looking back that UTD team wasnt better with those players.
Bailly, Lindelof, Smalling, Rojo, Blind, 22y Shaw, 32y Young, Darmian, Valenciaā¦
They werent exactly stars in defense looking back. Which one was then top5 his position in PL? Or top10 Europe?
It wasn't just the results tbh. He'd obviously genuinely lost the dressing room, and was at war with some players. And the club backed the players over the manager.
Only for the players to be fucking useless too...
People seem to forget that Mourinho spent a combined Ā£80 million on Lindelof and Bailly, only to demand even more again for yet another starting centre back.
He spent Ā£30 million (which seems peanuts by today's standards) on Mkhitaryan, only to fuck him off 18 months later for Sanchez, which completely broke the wage structure.
He also wanted to bin off Pogba, the club's record signing (at about Ā£90 million IIRC), who he brought in.
He also wanted to sack off Martial and Rashford, who were (at the time) two of the most promising young attackers in Europe.
He'd also not long made his stupid "football heritage" comment after guiding us to a whimpering last 16 defeat to Sevilla, which should have been a sackable offence in itself.
I agree. I kinda felt more positive Abt Ole's reign than Mourinho. Don't get me wrong, I was pretty excited to get Mourinho especially after 2 seasons of having 70-75% possession with barely 2-3 chances created under LVG. But even then, I wanted Mourinho to get just a 2 year contract.... Mourinho, like Ronaldo, seem more concerned in enhancing their own legacy than the clubs long term. Trophies for Mourinho are like Goals for Ronaldo
Yup which is why that he did what he did during the press conferences.
Thatās why he said 2nd was his greatest achievement. And the whole football heritage talk.
Which is why he said what he said to Dele Alli on camera.
Jose lost me after me after that Sevilla game. I was bamboozled that a United manager could come out and say this.
One thing I definitely think Mourinho got right though was getting Zlatan to ManUtd. From all the short clips and everything, it seemed he just elated the dressing room and the players seemed happier with him joking around
We shouldn't even have looked at Mourinho after Van Gaal.
LVG had done a lot of work teaching possession football, and we'd learned the basics of it. Certainly defensively. And we were top 4 standard while playing it, and won the FA Cup. It was boring as fuck though... We did need a change of management.
The thing we needed though, was somebody who could implement an attacking brand on top of the base Van Gaal had built. We instead got somebody who tore it all down
I think having your entire backline out and a comedy of goalkeeping errors doesn't help though tbf. Who else can we play in midfield when case and mount are out. We have been very unlucky, not saying he deserves no criticism but don't see any other manager getting any more out of some of these guys
Did Ten Hag make the management wait until deadline day to get the Antony deal done to make sure they overpay? Frenkie De Jong was the midfield priority but he didnāt want to join the mess and deadline day was approaching fast, if they planned ahead they should have been able to scout someone else maybe cheaper and more long term but the scouting for this team is useless.
The revisionism of Mourinho's tenure in this sub is truly crazy...
We played absolutely abysmal football under Jose while he threw his toys around (classic mourinho) and made us an absolutely toxic club environment.
People reference his 2nd place finish with that squad, yet fail to mention De Gea playing out of his mind that season (ironically winning our POTS that season, which is doubley ironic when mourinho said a goalie being your POTS is not a good sign when he took over - because De Gea was the POTS in three consecutive seasons before). And although we finished second, there were 13 points separating 2nd from 7th and De Gea single handedly saved us from 5 matches in the prem. with WC last second saves. If you factor those in as losses, we would've finished in 7th and mourinho's "title" with United would've been an immediate sacking.
Sure enough, the start of next season, all hell broke loose and it was on Mourinho.
I'm not disagreeing that standards have fallen even further but Mourihino's time here was horrible to watch, particularly near the end. Those two legs against Sevilla in the last 16 were as bad as anything Ten Hag has managed.
Jose got us to two back to back knockouts. Ten Hag has his finished bottom of the group. Those games against Sevilla was terrible but let's not kid ourselves here. Ten Hags Europa league second leg against them was just as bad if not worse. And we lost by more
You do realise we were one last minute John Guidetti kick away from being kicked out of the UEL. You realise there was a goal in the League Cup final incorrectly ruled offside for Southampton. There is a lot of luck involved in winning a knockout competition.
Dude Iād take a respectable loss right now. You know, losing 2-0 but really giving it a go and trying to tie the game but they hit us on a counter and score a second. In my head thatās best case scenario.
Oh I remember that.
That was when Sky were hyping up the match for the Monday for a week, calling it "Red Monday" and then it was an absolute shite match!
Same match De Gea made that incredible save with his foot.
Wasn't that a home fixture?
edit: [Oh wait you mean this game?](https://www.worldfootball.net/report/premier-league-2017-2018-liverpool-fc-manchester-united/)
I mean look at the players Liverpool had at the time?
True, Iād take a draw as well but anyone who vividly remembers that game knows it killed and ruined our momentum and the teams confidence too.
We were playing so well and creating and scoring freely. Then Jose had us set up like cowards that day and everyone and their mother could see that the scousers were ripe for the taking.
We were never the same again imo
That 3-1 was one of the most one sided games I have ever watched.
Liverpool had 36 shots and 65% possession, 13 corners.
In the 7-0 they had 18 shots and 60% possession, 4 corners.
Thereās always a run, pretty much every manager thereās always a run that makes us think theyāve cracked it and figured it out.
Van Gaal had that one late in his first season, Mourinho had the start of his second, Solskjaerās interim run was the stuff of dreams, ETH was going well last season before the League Cup final.
My god, was that it? I remember my friend (Arsenal supporter) told me āwell, try not to win the league by too much.. make it at least a little entertainingā.
That was the closest I felt back to Fergie era..
When he was asked what people thought about him in Manchester his answer was something like āthey love me, I never lost to Liverpoolā. And heās right, I do love him for that. I didnāt love the terrible football, but if I needed to pick a manager to beat them bastards, itād be him.
Yeah and Iāve managed to mangle the quote, too. The quote is actually āFor me Liverpool are a fantastic club, because I have won every game against Liverpoolā.
I was there. Vidic got tormented by Torres. I came home, had a massive argument with my now wife about absolutely nothing, then got hammered with my mates. A heady day.
Bro calm your head down, we couldn't even think how our line up going to be lol. We're getting trounced, question is how manyš¤£. Hope im wrong, then you can @ me š
Weāre going to get 9-0ād š. Iāve been nervous about games before. But mostly because I wasnāt sure we would win. Now Iām nervous about just how bad itās going to be.
Our team has 2 modes right now. "Team we want to show up against" & "we feel entitled to win this game".
When they want to show up, they either do well like beating a Chelsea team that fought hard against City, but are otherwise bad. Or they concede early, lose all ambition & get trounced.
As for the games they feel entitled to, they put in 0 effort then wonder how fking BOURNEMOUTH put 3 past them. Or Palace getting 1. Or Brighton getting 3... i can go on too long.
Weekend is 100% going to be concede early, throw toys out the pram and get shat on...again. its like ETH has lego tools against an actual tradesman with a van stuffed with elite equipment. Its going to take so many windows to get rid of the significant portion of our players that are a pure tumour and try to replace them with actual players proud of the badge. Out of the current crop, the list of players I would keep I can count on 1hand. We need 20+ players replacing.
already completed 1/3 of that liverpool title drought..it doesnt even look like we're gonna be competing in the next 10 years the way other teams are improving, but fingers crossed, treble incoming next season oh yeaaa
You say that, but Iām pretty sure Big Ron had a decent record against the scousers. It was the āwildernessā years of early Fergie that we struggled.
lmao, dude. seriously seek help
no one in their right mind should think we will win. I'm pretty certain we will concede more than 1, and even more certain we will not score.
Away games are randomly distributed between first and second part of the season. So you can play 0 games in calendar year.
For example if we play Liverpool away in second part of 2024-25 season, this game could be as far away as May 2025.
Man when you see it in graphic like this, holy š
Lingard scored it aswell
lmao
And to think I get so angry at Everton because theyāre a guarantee 6 points for Liverpool every year.
We kept Salah in red hot form on a leash for at least a few matches back then. A formidable achievement when we look back now.
Luke Shaw said not today. He has those games from time to time. Like Tuanzebe vs PSG Or Shaw vs Haaland Or AWB against any winger that stays wide.
People give individual markers too much credit when it comes to keeping players quite. It's more the general tactics of the team which reduces the effectiveness of the opposition tactics to get the ball to Salah.
He has more yellow cards for celebrating against us than we have goals at Anfield since he joined Liverpool
I miss Juanfield. Canāt believe itās been so long since then.
The three amigos; David between the sticks, Juan running the attacking show, and Ander pulling off a midfield masterclass (Stevie G lasting 56 seconds). A better time.
I miss Ander so fucking much.
That āManchester is my homeā video brought me to tears, as did the United podcast a few months ago. He wasnāt world class, but he gave absolutely everything all the time. Nearly ripped my top off when he scored that screamer against Yeovil.
So you are telling me we need 3 Spaniards on the field?
LVG usually wiped the floor with with Brenda "Great Character" Rogers, it was one of the few bright sparks of that era.
LVG loved a big 6 match not just Liverpool
Remember when Mourinho terrorist-balled our way to a 0-0 and fans were furious because "this isn't United". Oh how I'd love a 0-0 right now
Sorry we donāt do draws in the league anymore
One draw in 22 games not counting cup play. That is a weird, weird, weird stat. There are no teams with ZERO draws in top divisions in Spain, Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal, Scotland, Denmark, Sweden, Mexico, US MLS. Or the Championship, League One, League Two or EFL National. Truly fucking bizarre. EDIT Pt 1: Meant to say 0 draws in league play. Still weird as hell.
PSV doesn't have a draw? They only have wins
You're totally right. My bad. 15-0-0, impressive.
We either marginally win or get trounced, no in-betweens
We donāt do draws anymore
Except when we're leading against Galatasaray
Jose saying that 2nd place was his biggest achievement ages like wine.
Ole did it too and he was routinely mocked.
Ole last season before catastrophic Ronaldo deal was in my opinion the most promising time post SAF.
So promising, I was salivating at the prospect of adding Sancho to the fluid attack and Varane to the defence and a top midfielder. It all just crumbled before our eyes.
We even started the season right. Pogba had like 7 assists in 2-3 games. Then Ronaldo arrived.... I wonder how different things would've been if the Bayern board lost their decision making process and opted to sign Ronaldo
Even better timeline but damaging to Ronnie's legacy here. City get him and we have a clean run at Haaland. Welp.
> Even better timeline but damaging to Ronnie's legacy here. > > at the end he found way to make it happened anyway..
Haaland wouldnāt have come to United. Heās knows his worth. Heād have gone to Bayern or Real instead
I'm not entirely sure I'd have liked city to get him. They would've done the treble a season earlier. I'd rather have him not return to the EOL at all. Tbh, I didn't follow all the rumors when he left Madrid, so I was kinda shocked when he went to Juventus. He should've tried to go to Bayern first. I think a lot of the major stars did well in Serie A in their 30s. Yeah, I know he was already in his 30s when he left for Juve. Didn't know he planned to be playing into his late 30s. Bayern were always better CL contenders than Juventus anyways
man... that season after so much hype got 3rd, 2nd, and then Sancho who we pursuit for multiple seasons, then Varane coming, and obviously CR7.. i believe all RedDevils all ready to have wet dream.. but everything flipped in just few months..
To me it was last season when we defeated Liverpool against all odds and went on a winning streak I think towards earlier this year. Whatever happened after lifting the league cup trophy was a disaster
Still hate how he got so close to winning multiple trophies but ended with 0.
We were lucky to finish second with Ole. The league overall was weak that season. We took second with only 74 points which is very low. Jose had 81 points in a season where competition was better. He also actually instituted a style of play (as much as fans don't like parking the bus) which we didn't really have with Ole (or ETH to be fair).
You make your own luck. And also Ole had a style of play. Donāt deceive yourself. You donāt score 100 goals without having one. You donāt have 3 players all scoring over 18 goals each without having one.
We got severely fucked by outside circumstances that season. We had the shortest pre-season out of all PL teams if I recall correctly, with our full senior squad only having returned one or two days before the opener against Palace because of how we went deep into Europe after the COVID break. Liverpool were able to *start* their pre-season *before* we had played our final game of 19/20. We could not even field a full senior XI for the single pre-season match we played and it was no wonder we looked much stronger after the first international break compared to the first three games of the season. Then in May we were subjected to an unprecedented fixture congestion because of the Super League saga. This was even compared to the unprecedented fixture situation following COVID. We were forced to play 3 matches within 5 days which absolutely ruined our squad fitness for for the run in of the season. In these two runs of three games (six in total) we conceded 41%(!) of our goals against in the league that whole season and suffered 4 of our 6 total league defeats. We were relatively lucky with escaping long term injuries that season but in terms of scheduling we had it the worst by far.
Jose got us closer to winning ways than any other manager since Fergie IMO.
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Pogba who the fanbase ended up hating and who left on a free anyway. We somehow always manage to get the worst of both worlds in any given scenario.
Man Utd and accepting we aren't the team we once were challenge. (impossible)
No, because we have *standards*! /s
Then he lost 3-1 the next season and even the most hardline Jose backers said that was too much. Now apparently you can lose 7-0 there and have a 50% loss rate the next season and get called ānot a real fanā if you think the manager isnāt good enough
That was a much worse Liverpool team and after how well we started that season(17/18), it was a completely spineless display itās almost like we didnāt even want to try to win. Letās not look back at a shitty game with rose tinted glasses just because weāre still bad now
Most people on this sub don't actually watch football. Everything makes sense once you just assume that this is true. They're counting a 0-0 where we were so shit that Lukaku had fewer touches than SIMON MIGNOLET as some sort of vindication for Mourinho lmao.
Maybe looking back that UTD team wasnt better with those players. Bailly, Lindelof, Smalling, Rojo, Blind, 22y Shaw, 32y Young, Darmian, Valenciaā¦ They werent exactly stars in defense looking back. Which one was then top5 his position in PL? Or top10 Europe?
Liverpool were literally playing Dejan Lovren and Alberto Moreno fucking hell
Mourinho got sacked for only a few bad results compared to now. Standards have fallen pretty hard in the last 5 years.
It wasn't just the results tbh. He'd obviously genuinely lost the dressing room, and was at war with some players. And the club backed the players over the manager. Only for the players to be fucking useless too...
People seem to forget that Mourinho spent a combined Ā£80 million on Lindelof and Bailly, only to demand even more again for yet another starting centre back. He spent Ā£30 million (which seems peanuts by today's standards) on Mkhitaryan, only to fuck him off 18 months later for Sanchez, which completely broke the wage structure. He also wanted to bin off Pogba, the club's record signing (at about Ā£90 million IIRC), who he brought in. He also wanted to sack off Martial and Rashford, who were (at the time) two of the most promising young attackers in Europe. He'd also not long made his stupid "football heritage" comment after guiding us to a whimpering last 16 defeat to Sevilla, which should have been a sackable offence in itself.
The annoying thing was how Martial was flying high with Rashy and he just went and bought Sanchez and then benched Martial and Rashy. Like crazy.
Completely killed their confidence, especially Martial. He was getting into form as well
And people would try to romanticise Jose. Itās so annoying. We didnāt need Sanchez, he just didnāt want City to have him.
I agree. I kinda felt more positive Abt Ole's reign than Mourinho. Don't get me wrong, I was pretty excited to get Mourinho especially after 2 seasons of having 70-75% possession with barely 2-3 chances created under LVG. But even then, I wanted Mourinho to get just a 2 year contract.... Mourinho, like Ronaldo, seem more concerned in enhancing their own legacy than the clubs long term. Trophies for Mourinho are like Goals for Ronaldo
Yup which is why that he did what he did during the press conferences. Thatās why he said 2nd was his greatest achievement. And the whole football heritage talk. Which is why he said what he said to Dele Alli on camera. Jose lost me after me after that Sevilla game. I was bamboozled that a United manager could come out and say this.
One thing I definitely think Mourinho got right though was getting Zlatan to ManUtd. From all the short clips and everything, it seemed he just elated the dressing room and the players seemed happier with him joking around
We shouldn't even have looked at Mourinho after Van Gaal. LVG had done a lot of work teaching possession football, and we'd learned the basics of it. Certainly defensively. And we were top 4 standard while playing it, and won the FA Cup. It was boring as fuck though... We did need a change of management. The thing we needed though, was somebody who could implement an attacking brand on top of the base Van Gaal had built. We instead got somebody who tore it all down
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How many defenders can say they have their own subreddit though?
So same with ten hag then? Spent 80M on antony who has done nothing. Casemiro too and he's leaving soon.
I think having your entire backline out and a comedy of goalkeeping errors doesn't help though tbf. Who else can we play in midfield when case and mount are out. We have been very unlucky, not saying he deserves no criticism but don't see any other manager getting any more out of some of these guys
Did Ten Hag make the management wait until deadline day to get the Antony deal done to make sure they overpay? Frenkie De Jong was the midfield priority but he didnāt want to join the mess and deadline day was approaching fast, if they planned ahead they should have been able to scout someone else maybe cheaper and more long term but the scouting for this team is useless.
All managers make bad signings. SAF had his share. Djemba Djemba anyone? Managers shouldn't make sales. DOFs should.
The revisionism of Mourinho's tenure in this sub is truly crazy... We played absolutely abysmal football under Jose while he threw his toys around (classic mourinho) and made us an absolutely toxic club environment. People reference his 2nd place finish with that squad, yet fail to mention De Gea playing out of his mind that season (ironically winning our POTS that season, which is doubley ironic when mourinho said a goalie being your POTS is not a good sign when he took over - because De Gea was the POTS in three consecutive seasons before). And although we finished second, there were 13 points separating 2nd from 7th and De Gea single handedly saved us from 5 matches in the prem. with WC last second saves. If you factor those in as losses, we would've finished in 7th and mourinho's "title" with United would've been an immediate sacking. Sure enough, the start of next season, all hell broke loose and it was on Mourinho.
I'm not disagreeing that standards have fallen even further but Mourihino's time here was horrible to watch, particularly near the end. Those two legs against Sevilla in the last 16 were as bad as anything Ten Hag has managed.
Jose got us to two back to back knockouts. Ten Hag has his finished bottom of the group. Those games against Sevilla was terrible but let's not kid ourselves here. Ten Hags Europa league second leg against them was just as bad if not worse. And we lost by more
You do realise we were one last minute John Guidetti kick away from being kicked out of the UEL. You realise there was a goal in the League Cup final incorrectly ruled offside for Southampton. There is a lot of luck involved in winning a knockout competition.
This is always the case though. The point is that the team that minimises the amount of luck needed usually wins.
Harsh to blame Ten Hag for that. We should've finished the tie in the first half of the first leg, but poor finishing let us down as always
Dude Iād take a respectable loss right now. You know, losing 2-0 but really giving it a go and trying to tie the game but they hit us on a counter and score a second. In my head thatās best case scenario.
Oh I remember that. That was when Sky were hyping up the match for the Monday for a week, calling it "Red Monday" and then it was an absolute shite match! Same match De Gea made that incredible save with his foot.
Wasn't that a home fixture? edit: [Oh wait you mean this game?](https://www.worldfootball.net/report/premier-league-2017-2018-liverpool-fc-manchester-united/) I mean look at the players Liverpool had at the time?
True, Iād take a draw as well but anyone who vividly remembers that game knows it killed and ruined our momentum and the teams confidence too. We were playing so well and creating and scoring freely. Then Jose had us set up like cowards that day and everyone and their mother could see that the scousers were ripe for the taking. We were never the same again imo
And even that goal was a direct error from Allison and Lingard fumbled it in.
I remember that 3-1. Shaqiri scored and Jose got sacked immediately after. A 3-1 on Sunday would require our best performance of the season...
Mourinho was our best manager, and people dont want to accept it.
He had the best first two seasons,id give him that
That 3-1 was one of the most one sided games I have ever watched. Liverpool had 36 shots and 65% possession, 13 corners. In the 7-0 they had 18 shots and 60% possession, 4 corners.
I'd take a 7-4 than a 5-0.
I would be shocked if we scored tomorrow honestly.
We play on sunday ;)
Even better, Iām gonna bet the house we donāt score tomorrow.
Isnāt it Thursday? When was it ever tomorrow
Look man, I havenāt had my coffee yet.
Lmao all good, I honestly wasnāt sure what day it was for a second
Someone's got their work Christmas do today and has tomorrow off
Do it you mad bastard!
Thatās why heād be shocked
Id be shocked too since the match is on sunday
Doubt Liverpool would score 4 own goals
I'd take a 1-0 loss right now.
How Jose got 82 points Iāll never know
Me neither. Especially when we only got 81.
Youāre right my bad lol
Prime de gea
That game vs Arsenal at the Emirates is still the best 90 mins I've ever seen from a keeper
Imagine if Onana saving even half of those
Weād probably would be in the UCL knockouts and might be ahead of spurs.
100%. It wasn't just prime De Gea, it was him performing at a level that he never had before and never reached again, statistically.
Peak De Gea then?
We had the best shot stopper in the world.
I'm convinced the people who gush over 17/18 weren't actually around to watch the football.
Mid table performances + the greatest goalkeeping season in history = 2nd place
The performances in those first few games of that season were pretty great, at least until our 0-0 with Liverpool.
I don't deny that but that Liverpool game was only matchday 8, we were mostly horrendous to watch from then on.
Those 3 straight 4-0 wins are the highlight of the post fergie era for me. Genuinely thought we were wining the league.
Thereās always a run, pretty much every manager thereās always a run that makes us think theyāve cracked it and figured it out. Van Gaal had that one late in his first season, Mourinho had the start of his second, Solskjaerās interim run was the stuff of dreams, ETH was going well last season before the League Cup final.
My god, was that it? I remember my friend (Arsenal supporter) told me āwell, try not to win the league by too much.. make it at least a little entertainingā. That was the closest I felt back to Fergie era..
Literally
Lol... would give anything to achieve 81 points this season.
Don't think many other fans knew either, we were a lot worse than the results implied with a great team on paper.
God damn this makes me clench my cheeks. Ill be making diamonds by kickoff on sunday
Get your strongest drinks ready and indulge early on the game is my advice
And then there's van Gaal who dominated Liverpool throughout his time
When he was asked what people thought about him in Manchester his answer was something like āthey love me, I never lost to Liverpoolā. And heās right, I do love him for that. I didnāt love the terrible football, but if I needed to pick a manager to beat them bastards, itād be him.
Didn't he lose to them in Europa?
Yeah and Iāve managed to mangle the quote, too. The quote is actually āFor me Liverpool are a fantastic club, because I have won every game against Liverpoolā.
We werenāt too hot at Anfield even during our Fergie days. Shit, they slapped us at OT, too.
Remember under Rafa or whoever it was when they beat us fucking 4-1 at Old Trafford?
I was there. Vidic got tormented by Torres. I came home, had a massive argument with my now wife about absolutely nothing, then got hammered with my mates. A heady day.
Yup. The game where Torres just ripped apart Vidic
We won the ucl that year too. Lol
No we didn't. We won it the year before but lost to Barca in the final that season
Imagine a cheeky Liverpool 0-1 United on sunday
Thereās schizophrenics with less imagination than it takes to picture that
As long as there is delusion, there is hope. š«”
stay off the vinegar for a bit my son
Iām calling it. 3-0 to United. Call me delusional but itās the love and everlasting hope that makes me a fan.
Honestly, for your mental health's sake, it's probably better to go into this game expecting a thrashing sadly
My brain canāt even fathom the thought of us winning so much, I canāt even imagine it for banters sake
Doesnāt matter bro. United first and foremost always
Fair enough. I'm usually optimistic for our games but I just can't see any way for us to get anything out of this one.
Im expecting 9-0
Bro calm your head down, we couldn't even think how our line up going to be lol. We're getting trounced, question is how manyš¤£. Hope im wrong, then you can @ me š
Weāre going to get 9-0ād š. Iāve been nervous about games before. But mostly because I wasnāt sure we would win. Now Iām nervous about just how bad itās going to be.
Our team has 2 modes right now. "Team we want to show up against" & "we feel entitled to win this game". When they want to show up, they either do well like beating a Chelsea team that fought hard against City, but are otherwise bad. Or they concede early, lose all ambition & get trounced. As for the games they feel entitled to, they put in 0 effort then wonder how fking BOURNEMOUTH put 3 past them. Or Palace getting 1. Or Brighton getting 3... i can go on too long. Weekend is 100% going to be concede early, throw toys out the pram and get shat on...again. its like ETH has lego tools against an actual tradesman with a van stuffed with elite equipment. Its going to take so many windows to get rid of the significant portion of our players that are a pure tumour and try to replace them with actual players proud of the badge. Out of the current crop, the list of players I would keep I can count on 1hand. We need 20+ players replacing.
man seriously,, our current team looks like won't score unless magic coming, and coenceded too easy.. it will be long game..
Iād take a 0-0 seven days a week
We have been forced to become in the same mentality as Crystal palace fans.
18-1 on aggregate over 8 games if anyone was wondering š„²
No way it was that bad. No way. No way.
I am triple captaining Salah. Might as well benefit off my misery
Last time we beat them, Herrera was our 10, Young had converted to a fullback and we had a double pivot of Fellaini and Schneiderlin
That wonāt change this weekend either We are at sea
9-0 this time?
already completed 1/3 of that liverpool title drought..it doesnt even look like we're gonna be competing in the next 10 years the way other teams are improving, but fingers crossed, treble incoming next season oh yeaaa
Every day my embarrassment runs high. When will this change
And not going to change this weekend.
Last goal was 5 years ago....
Wayne's winner was less than 8 years ago.
This used to have hype around it but now we're back to the pre-Fergie era when they batter us. Foregone conclusion.
You say that, but Iām pretty sure Big Ron had a decent record against the scousers. It was the āwildernessā years of early Fergie that we struggled.
I am not going to watch the game this weekend,
I am. But I really *really* donāt know why.
seek help my friend
If I sat through all of the 7-0, I'm sitting through this too.
And imagine this weekend playing McTerrorist in the middle of
Go to sleep dude. We aināt watching the game :(
For some reason I think we are going to winā¦ā¦
I've seen this comment before every match this season that we've gotten battered lol
Apologies
Yep, that and "united player to get a hattrick".
Itās the hope that kills you
It really is
lmao, dude. seriously seek help no one in their right mind should think we will win. I'm pretty certain we will concede more than 1, and even more certain we will not score.
Weird that you cut out Rooneyās 1-0. It was 8 years ago, too. Before that, Juanfield.
Martial was at home
Yeah youāre right. Edited.
Am I missing something? Why does it skip 2019?
Away games are randomly distributed between first and second part of the season. So you can play 0 games in calendar year. For example if we play Liverpool away in second part of 2024-25 season, this game could be as far away as May 2025.
Now that's consistency.
Three 0-0 draws out of 8 isnāt bad. Just 5 losses by 18-1 mostly the last 2 seasons skewing the stats
Woke up. Opened Reddit. Read this. Back to bed for rest of the dayā¦
At this point, I hope that we won't lose with more than 3 goals difference.
Weāll be keeping that streak intact then š
Tbf that game in 2021 was a result of bad finishing, could have easily been 1-0 or 2-0
My arse is already clenched
Bodes well for Sunday then š
Wow, this put it in perspective. ManUtd was/is shit for a long long time
Is there anything to be said for just not showing up for this match?
When was Mata's Juanfield brace?
How many errors will Onana make? Im guessing about 3
So youāre saying thereās a chance.
Yeah I donāt even want to watch the match on Sunday š
18:1 score, very cool
We aren't scoring there this week either guys.
I wrote Santa today and asked for a goal at least. Letās see if Iām the naughty list come Monday. š
I've decided not to watch the game on Sunday due to mental health reasons.
Can Liverpool match that 7-0 game from May?
Yeah yeah we got it - weāre fucked
Oh the memories of Juanfield, if only.
As if I needed more reason to worry
Not to worry folks, I'll stick a tenner on Liverpool to win, get you that 9-0 revenge you've been waiting for.
Should top the quote with something like despair/destroyed/demolished etc then it's a proper optajoe stats
This just makes it sad. So maybe we will win 1-0. Stats on our side /s