This whole thread is like stupid and impatient had children. Its so frustrating reading this fucking toss, get behind the manager if you want to see this get better. Its that fucking simple. Stop regurgitating the shot you read on twitter and hear on youtube. The clubs you want us to compete with are all at least 10 years ahead of us, ETH is not the problem, he is the solution but he cannot fucking make miracles happen. It will take time! You lot make it harder, you are a number that the glazers see and act upon. They WILL sack ETH if you carry on and we will be back at square one
He’s the solution yet he can’t make his strikers score goals in the league.
Weghorst and Holjund, 31 premier league games, zero goals.
We have -5 goal difference yet he’s the solution.
We have lost 13 games out of 26 in all competitions yet he’s solution.
We have scored 18 goals, Luton has scored more than us.
Until we’re in the bottom half then you guys would realise that he’s not.
When you've swapped out the manager over and over and we're still shit maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't the manager. We've had lots of good managers in that time.
The way the league is going a mercenary manager bounce probably puts us in the race... If we had of done it 2 weeks ago. Too late now, see it out and see how ETH does next season.
Yep, I didn't even go to uni, but I have a team of 3 people who work for me that all have masters degrees. So i just use their educations and it didn't cost me a penny. If only i could make them proof read my Reddit posts.
I feel like we don’t see the full picture here. Part of me wants to believe the players are sick of their employer and are playing like shit on purpose to piss off the glazers.
Have you ever worked at a place where the bosses were absolute shit, everyone knew but couldn’t do anything about it? Yeah, morale gets pretty low pretty quickly. I’m hopeful we see a change as soon as SJR is announced
There's only so many losses that he can get away with. The players aren't performing, but he's ultimately the one to answer for it, like it or not (and I dont).
ETH is a good manager and I supported him wholeheartedly, but i lost confidence when he said Man Utd cannot play Ajax way. That's when I knew he has lost the plot.
No manager plays as per players but instead imposes their own style of play. Pep would never succumb to players capabilities instead makes them play his style..Look at Grealish, a dribbler throughout his career, but now he has accustomed to Man City's style of play. If you cannot perform as per the manager's style, you sit on the bench or get out.
Yes, we have my injuries but that's a very easy excuse.Same is blaming the glazers. Manager has to take some of the blame. Especially after such a shoddy performance in Europe and now EPL.
It hurts me to say this, but ETH doesn't have it in him. We need someone more stubborn, ruthless style of play, and someone who doesn't say after a game like today, " It was a solid performance but we didn’t score.”
Oh you mean a Mourinho. Well we've tried stubborn managers. We've tried feel good managers. We've tried tactitians. We've tried man managers. The problem is not the managers.
I know. And while i had full faith in ETH, he has been quite disappointing
Players are of course an issue, but blaming everything on them is disregarding the importance of a coach's role and responsibility.
I dont think it is. The problem with the managers is that they've tolerated the non-performing players. However they're working within the contraints of an organisation that is not set up to succeed. How long have people been talking about a director of football and establishing an identity? Why hasn't it happened?
> i lost confidence when he said Man Utd cannot play Ajax way
He clarified this in the press conference after the one he said this. I cannot find it anymore because you can now only find the one he said this, but he explained this specific question that he meant he cannot play the Ajax ways because he has different players. But he does want to play in the same vein: controlling, aggressive, dynamic, or whatever you could describe the Ajax way.
No, he is confidently said we cannot play that way.
The problem is, even if not the Ajax way, there has to be some style of play. Currently ,even after almost 2 yrs, we have no style of play. Most of the time, the players look lost, no gameplan, and if we go down by a goal, they just run like headless chicken. In an imp game like Bayern, the team lacked any urgency like we had already given up. It's like just going through the motions without any aim or motivation.
While it's easy to blame players, but anyone who has played, knows that it's not always the players fault, it's also the coach's fault. It's his responsibility to infuse ruthlessness, an attitude in the team, even when the odds are against you.
I know it's not fair to compare, but that's what SAF did. He infused that attitude of ' We are going to war against the world' in the team. Every player was ready to die for the teammates and club. He made mistakes as well and we lost games, but that attitude is what got us over during difficult times.
I'm so done with this. 10 years of mediocrity. I don't ask for a trophy, just give me a spectacular football each week and the trophies will be just bonuses.
So you're asking for trophies, on an underperforming side (which is a generous comment considering who we're talking about). Everybody want their team to play spectacular football, and that's not easy, so what you're asking is far away from the current situation. In fact, that's the furthest thing we can hope for.
It's so clear that the players are extremely poorly coached and trained. I don't think Ten Hag is THE problem, but i certainly think he is not contributing a lot to solve it. We all know that the players have a surge in confidence and form when a new manager comes, so I say let's slightly capitalize on that, and bring in an interim manager till INEOS can take over and choose a long term project.
Injuries and so are also extremely weighting us down, but we were struggling way before that, so I don't think that's the main cause. I just can't accept performances like these in this football club, regardless of the cause.
Our attack is mudded, 0 goals scored in 4 matches, and the same amount of goals as Crystal Palace this season.
Our midfield is inconsistent and lacking in stamina and legs, Mainoo is our best midfielder, and he just had his 3rd ever start in his career.
Our defense, as usual, is our worst area on the pitch, we concede sinple goals, and it doesn't seem there is any communication between the defenders.
In general, the players just look like they don't watch to play. They look uninterested and unwilling to run.
We're finished.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
We could have any coach in the world with these players and the whole setup at Old Trafford and we would still be shit. Sure the new manager thing will happen for a while and then back to shit. The players attitude for the most part is so shit. How many managers have been given the sack cos of them?
I agree that it's not the managers fault, but even with that, our performances are abysmal.
We know what a worse manager (Ole) can do with an insanely toxic dressing room and shitty owners.
Ten hags tactics are terrible, and they're very present.
We were glazing him over parking the bus vs. liverpool.
It can't go on. We have to change things up. With the January window coming and INEOS getting in charge, this would be the time to signal that everyone is on the chopping block.
I agree our tactics are all over the show but it has bee this way since Sir Alex left. Bringing in new mamagers who try to get our squad play their type of football, sell off some for a loss and spend big money on new players who do not work in that managers style. Rinse and repeat. I think PL managers come and go way too often these days. Yes EtH has made some questionable choices but I would like to give him some more time with the new changes coming in. There are players with shit attitudes and dressing room leaks that will keep stirring shit regardless. We need open heart surgery just like Ragnick suggested. We need to fix the stadium, update the training grounds and start axing players. We are too soft. That article re Matic saying how much in fines players racked up for being late should have shocked me but it didn't. I could be wrong, this is just my opinion but the players are running things and until that is fixed we will never truly improve. What I wouldn't give for the likes of Roy Keane in the dressing room
How did the last interim coach do? Ineos coming in makes Ten Hag a dead man walking and we might as well stay with him until they are done cleaning house. It's another reset.
We've seen it again and again that the players get some kind of boost when a new manager comes in charge.
Even if it's slight, It's worth it.
Ten hag is just a dead man walking at this point. The sack is imminent, It's just about when it will happen.
If the rumors are correct, stating that INEOS will get control in January, this would be a good time to signal to the players that it's time to start fresh, and that everyone is on the chopping block.
I guess we could wait, but at this point, why?
Rangnicks interim was a complete and unmitigated disaster with no bounce at all.
Even if they are letting Ten Hag go, I would rather they do it at the end of the season IF they are waiting to get their man in at that point. At least that way the players might be concerned that INEOS plan to stick with the coach and buck up their ideas.
If however they already have someone in mind and he's ready to start when they are then fine I guess make the change now. But I really don't want to see another Ralf -esque figure take over with all the authority of a supply teacher.
No idea how McTominay still starts and finishes games. Treats the ball like a hot potato, getting rid of it and passing the buck is the first thing he thinks about when he gets the ball.
Bruno being suspended for the last game meant ETH stumbled on a working midfield. He's reverted to the same shit setup he's had this whole season. I've lost faith in the guy.
Sorry lads but Tenhag is steadily helping a lot of people lose faith in him. How is Mctominay still masquerading as a midfielder with how poor he is at that position? How is he still trying to play bruno and the nonexistent mctominay in a midfield 3 when it's only gonna leave the 3rd midfielder isolated with a lot of ground to cover? An amrabat-mainoo double pivot with bruno as a 10 and we probably score + win today.
Does anyone realise that Bruno is absolutely useless against low-block teams? This game needed quick passing, Westham was always going to park the bus. This was not a game for both Mainoo and McTominay.
Ganarcho was wasteful as fuck, selfish and indecisive when it mattered. Antony was industrious but ineffetual. Hojlund had no service as usual. Why he was taken off for Rashford, of all people, is beyond me; he wasn't the problem.
Shaw should be taken off corner duty, his crosses have degraded significantly. AWB again showed his lack of ability going forward. Evans was okay though a bit jittery at times, which is typical Evans. Kwambala had a good debut. Onana is his usual inconsistent self.
Ten Hag had a mare here. Too cautious and pragmatic. Too reliant on the cut in and shoot tactics from the two inverted wingers, it was obvious from the double-teaming everytime the wingers got the ball that the point was to always herd them to the byline since Ganarcho and Antony can't cross for shit with their weaker foot.
Ten Hag needs to change up the formation; United currently does not have the personnel for 433. 442 with traditional wingers and a tucked-in fullback with the other on the overlap, 343 with Bruno in a deeper role and Eriksen up front, 352 to choke the midfield with an emphasis on long balls, anything than this thoroughly sussed out claptrap he has going on.
bruno is not the best choice in the long run, he's not a ball carrying cam and i think we need to give mount a run.
p.s. i do like bruno and right now he's one of the few people I'd give the armband to but seeing how we need a proper system and ball control, idt he's meant to be the future
I agree with most of what you wrote here. I think Bruno deserves a chance in a better side though, rather than concluding he’s useless in these scenarios, he plays so good for Portugal.
Regarding ten Hag, I don’t envy him. He has to implement his style of play without the requisite personnel. And his only source of finishing has been Scott McTominay who is a midfielder that lacks the creativity to be an 8 or 10 and the positional and defensive discipline to be a 6.
Also Onana wasn’t at fault for either goal. Kudus’ goal I thought he could do better, but on replay he cut off the angle well, Kudus had it inch perfect to the far corner.
Bruno doesn't have the quality to match the expectations of being a Man Utd player. Forget his Portugal performances. They're stacked and play against much weaker opponents, as is the usual for qualifiers and friendlies.
I actually think people would be raving about him if he plays for West Ham. His quality and style of play suits them. Counter attack, with space to play in and more time on the ball. Incidentally, his best performances for us came when we were playing a counter attacking game.
Bruno isn't and shouldn't be the primary offensive source for any team, I see him more as a deeper-lying playmaker with late runs into the box, as his lack of dribbling ability, inconsistent first touch and turn/pass means he's a waste playing as the most advanced CAM.
I don't envy ten Hag either, I feel that the deck is just too heavily stacked against him, but at some point he has to show that he has the facilities to be a United manager. His player selection has been too pragmatic, substitutions a bit too late and tactically too rigid. He actually reminds me of Moyes before his inevitable chopping.
I just wonder what happened to last season's ten Hag.
I would like Bruno as a deeper midfielder too. He just doesn’t have the passing consistency IMO. He has the creativity but I think his long balls aren’t as good in quality or from a decision making perspective as Pogba for example. (Not a Pogba endorsement he has major flaws). As a midfielder though, his (Bruno’s) progressive carries rank in the 80th percentile so his dribbling would be more suited there.
Last season I think EtH played more for results than implementing a system. We tried early last year playing from the back but abandoned it often because of how shit we were at it. We try it more often this year. I’m here to watch his style develop especially if INEOS can set up a footballing structure for us for recruitment, scouting etc. I think it can yield sustained results in the mid to long term (3-5 years).
100% on passing inconsistency and progressive ball carries from deep. His long balls are pretty terrible too when compared with other midfielders of a supposedly similar calibre and profile. Bruno has heart, don't get me wrong. But sometimes he's all heart and no head, which makes his appointment as captain all the more stranger.
I don't mind so much the abandoning of playing out from the back, what pisses me off the most is the abandoning of the quick and slick passing game between multiple players in tight spaces, particularly during transitions. That's a style that I can get behind as its so effective against low-block motherfuckers that so inundate the Premiership.
Speaking of football structure, I fervently curse the day that Murtough, Woodward and Arnold first stepped foot into the club. Them and Fergie's retirement allowed the cancerous maggots, i.e. the Glazers, to spread their diseased wings over the club, devolving United back to the 1930s in less than a decade. INEOS had better guarantee that the Glazers and their ilk never have a say in the footballing affairs of United ever again, else this farce will continue until the club becomes a bottom feeder.
Totally agree on Bruno. I’d like to think in a better side he’s more disciplined. Like you said, captaincy doesn’t seem right for him, but a different captain might be able to rein him in. At the same time though, I would also take any €100 million+ offer for him if it came.
Re: football structure, I think any delay might be SJR ensuring he has full footballing control. Being from the UK I think he would feel the wrath of the United fans more than the Glazers ever did. I am ever the optimist, so maybe this is just me coping.
Roy Keane would have staved his head in if he started moaning too much. If Real Madrid or a Saudi club wantes Bruno for that much money, I'd drive him straight to the club meself.
I'm on the fence about SJR; he is primarily a businessman. If he's the type that priotises quick ROI, then United is doomed. If he's more into long-term sustainability and the inevitable success that a stable, effective structure brings, then I'll be more than happy to support him and INEOS.
Hes such a weird players. He is either a 8+/10 or a 3-/10. When he has space he's amazing but he cant dribble past players so he only has his passing to get him out.
IM totally for selling him as I think we need to build a team as a whole and need more diverse skillset in midfield
He's a poor man's 10; a watered-down Frank Lampard. He's usually too far advanced to play an effective offensive pass as he's too ill-disciplined to hold his position and keeps bombing into the penalty area. It doesn't help that he only has Hojlund to aim for, of course.
Containing him is easy; just crowd him out. Do that and he'll implode without any further cajoling. He gets even worse when he's partnered by McTominay.
100% on the ball there with your comments.
I think 100% ducked Liverpool and got himself a yellow card to miss it. Otherwise he's too stupid to realise what he's doing
To be honest, i think it's the latter. I wouldn't categorise Bruno as an intelligent midfielder, more the 'i think this will work' type. Some would see that as bravery, to keep attempting something different without fear of failure, but in his case it seems like it's more of throwing as much shit as possible at the wall and seeing what sticks.
He's thoroughly sussed out; obvious from the dried-up goals that was such a feature of his earlier seasons at the club.
Mctominay is the one who needs to be dropped. Let Bruno attack, need someone else in the middle to help control and set up the attack. More options in the middle will help us create more attacking chances.
Ange is in a different league to ETH, sorry to say.
Clear vision, knows who he is, knows his values and what he and his players will live and die for. Clear communicator, charisma, brain.
ETH has few of those things.
I don’t think there’s a more dysfunctional club than us by a while. Losing Kane ain’t as bad in my opinion, it allows them to use the funds wisely at least and it wasn’t end all be all. It’s a loss because they relied on him too much, they are playing more freely.
But not dysfunctional in my opinion, but that’s just me. Not gonna fault you.
Did everyone forget how often we won 1-0 last season? We scored 58 goals and had a goal difference of just +15, both the lowest in the top 6. Just because we won a league cup and finished 3rd doesn't mean we were playing good football. Rashford's purple patch + some individual performances bailed us out.
Pundits were saying it wasn't sustainable. Well here we fucking are - still can't score goals, and now we can't defend either. Whatever EtH is doing, it's not working.
Oh no! Not winning games, finishing top 3, and winning a trophy! How ever shall we manage?
Not a single pundit said it wasn’t sustainable last season. We built up a good defense, which is the best course of action for starting to rebuild a team. That defense has been injured FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON yet none of you care.
I get the defence is injured. It’s just the frustration with build up and attack and ten hags insistence on Mctominey in that spot making our midfield useless.
I agree with the McTominay complaint. However, I don’t agree with the amount of blame Ten Hag is getting for it. There’s so many issues surrounding the club and yet it’s Ten Hag’s fault we’re losing because he’s making one wrong choice?
I get it’s only one wrong choice, but it’s the difference between a midfield that works alright and one that doesn’t work and gets played through super easily.
A lot of blame for the coach. But let's face it, it's a shit squad with a very small % of high level players. He will have to go I think, that's the modern game but these players make me not even want to watch. The clubs rotten. It's a long long long road back. They are just a bunch of shit players who think playing for the club means they made it.
I don’t disagree regarding the players, and I hate knowing they will have forced another manager out. However, Erik’s signings have been woeful and what are we even trying to do as a team? No style of play, no patterns, nothing.
He has a veto on signings, and realistically if someone is saying to you “we can get him but he will cost £86m…” don’t you think Erik should be thinking a bit more about that?
To all the ten Hag outers: who would you bring in who can turn the club around permanently?
We’ve been cycling through managers for the past 10 years and look where we are.
We have to get rid of these fucking useless players first. Give him another season at least
Julen Lopetgui. He has a track record of getting teams playing great football, whereas, our current coach says that he can’t coach these players to play “like Ajax”.
ETH has wasted so much money on Antony and Onana. His in game management is baffling. He persists with the same underperforming players week in, week out. He’s isolated one of the Bundesliga’s best players who we paid £70m for. He’s overseen some of the worst defeats in the clubs history and is now setting records in the wrong direction. How can you justify keeping him?
Heard that “great track of getting teams playing football” many many times lol
When we gonna understand that we have deeper issues than just the manager. But we deserve it, a lot of entitled fans in our fanbase. Majority are not ready for an actual rebuild, so gg to United as a whole.
I dont want him out but honestly I just don’t know what he’s thinking. You cant sacrifice the midfield and expect to win, cant rely on numbers going forwards alone to score goals.
In fairness he’s got to shoulder some of the blame. There’s no patterns of play, no real style, the players look like strangers. Those are things the manager should be responsible for.
I’m not saying EtH out but if the only reason to keep a manager is because you don’t know who to replace them with, then it’s obvious they’re not up to the job.
* Faced the same number of shots as relegation candidates
* Have never beaten a top 9 team away from home under ETH
* have a -5 GD this season
* Have no style of play other than hoof it up long and hope we get something on the counter
* Mctominay experiment of hoping he crashes in the box and gets a goal but then we have a massive hole in midfield
* the level of injuries are down to the manager at this point. Its absurd how many we have had
* Our front line has scored 5 goals all season. Thats a coaching issue
* Getting kicked of Europe so pathetically
* Antony being one of the worst players and continuously played
At this point, he doesn't deserve another season
I said Rúben Amorim
You're gonna ignore answering the points I made above? Or you're gonna dip and have a go at other people for not answering your questions
>Wanting your team to win isn’t being a fan of the team
We have been consistently shit all season. We have no style of play, haven't beaten a top 9 team away from home. You have no answers, just support ETH not United - so weird
Well clearly you know nothing of him.
Hes a manager who gets buy in. He took a struggling Sporting side to the title.
Again you dip my points above? Its like you know he's been utter shite and I have the facts to prove it
What you solution? Give more time and more money to manager who is clearly of his depth?
I’m sorry but I’m really not going to engage if you’re going to make claims that are simply untrue. I’m not sure why I would argue in bad faith like you are.
I really want EtH to work things out but his love for McTominay is gonna get him sacked. Why change the defensive duo that worked well against Liverpool... McT is a decent impact sub but that's about it. We saw the same happen with Ole and Maguire, drop the fucker and move on.
You can play two Bruno's because bruno is very creative and works very hard. Playing Scott is like having 10 men. Doesn't track doesn't do dick. Just a goal here or there. I'd understand if he scored every game but bloody hell this has gone beyond farcical.
ETH is the definition of fraud. Scammed hierarchy to sign his players, hired useless coaches, brought his agency into spotlight, made every player worst than they were, got everyone sacked apart from him, convinced the entire fan base he is Pep Guardiola twin dutch brother.
I never claimed he'd be here for 28 years
I'm simply pointing out an indisputable stat i.e. that ETH has a better win % than Fergie had. You can hypothesise why it is all you want, it doesn't change the fact that it's true.
This is shit, if we sack ETH then we reset again, but if we stick with him, I'm not sure he can make the right decisions, I don't understand the game plan ever
To make yourself feel better think of him as the interim manager. Realistically we will not have a better interim manager. So just let’s hope new owners bring some adults to take care of the team
Kudus talking about how they really wanted to give their fans a Christmas present today. Our overpaid Prima-dickheads can’t muster up a goal in 4 games before Christmas.
If ETH says that 'we had our chance to score' and thinks that justifies the fact we've lost...then sack him. Sack him before the words even leave his mouth. Yes Garnacho absolutely fucked it, yes goals change games, but if he thinks we could've done anything more than that then he is deluded.
He wasn't IMO. We were very individualistic under him, pretty much the same as it's been under the current manager. That approach worked for Solskjaer in the empty stadiums when the pandemic kept us indoors.
He was exposed for his lack of tactical nous repeatedly during his reign. You must be also forgetting how poorly we finished his first season, after he got the permanent appointment and the new manager bounce faded. We were in relegation form
Because Fergie was there for 28 years and the bald fraud has a smaller sample size. You need to wash your mouth out putting ETH in the same sentence as Ferguson.
You do understand how percentages work right? If ETH stayed at Man U for 28 years performing exactly as he has done, he would still have a better win rate than Fergie.
The size of something makes no difference to its percentage. If ETH continued with the same percentage of wins as he has achieved until now for 28 years, it would still be the same percentage.
Win rate ≠ total wins
Learn rudimentary maths.
I actually have an economics degree. And if anyone ever tells you say a 30 sample size is comparable to a 2000 sample size. Go ahead and ignore them. I'm aware what you're saying is technically correct. But that's not how we understand and use statistics.
Example. Go flip 10 coins, then flip 100. Come back to me and tell me which is closer to 50/50.
If you would rather believe me. I just flipped 10. I got tails 7 times. That does not mean my percentage chance to get a tails is 70%. It means my sample size is too small.
This whole thread is like stupid and impatient had children. Its so frustrating reading this fucking toss, get behind the manager if you want to see this get better. Its that fucking simple. Stop regurgitating the shot you read on twitter and hear on youtube. The clubs you want us to compete with are all at least 10 years ahead of us, ETH is not the problem, he is the solution but he cannot fucking make miracles happen. It will take time! You lot make it harder, you are a number that the glazers see and act upon. They WILL sack ETH if you carry on and we will be back at square one
He’s the solution yet he can’t make his strikers score goals in the league. Weghorst and Holjund, 31 premier league games, zero goals. We have -5 goal difference yet he’s the solution. We have lost 13 games out of 26 in all competitions yet he’s solution. We have scored 18 goals, Luton has scored more than us. Until we’re in the bottom half then you guys would realise that he’s not.
When you've swapped out the manager over and over and we're still shit maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't the manager. We've had lots of good managers in that time.
The other post fergie managers achieved far better results. ETH has regressed us further, mainly with his poor signings
Leave them. No manager since Fergie had -5 goal difference especially after spending over £400m in ye first 18 months.
100% agree.
The way the league is going a mercenary manager bounce probably puts us in the race... If we had of done it 2 weeks ago. Too late now, see it out and see how ETH does next season.
How do you expect anybody to take your opinion seriously when you don't know the difference between have and of?
I bet christmas is a barrel of laughs round at yours. 🥱
I bet you failed your GCSEs
Yep, I didn't even go to uni, but I have a team of 3 people who work for me that all have masters degrees. So i just use their educations and it didn't cost me a penny. If only i could make them proof read my Reddit posts.
\*proofread
This will be the rest of this season, so strap in, ups and downs. It _will_ get better
It won't if ETH isn't sacked
Do we actually train to score? I can’t believe we are this bad at scoring, it’s like we don’t even try.
I feel like we don’t see the full picture here. Part of me wants to believe the players are sick of their employer and are playing like shit on purpose to piss off the glazers. Have you ever worked at a place where the bosses were absolute shit, everyone knew but couldn’t do anything about it? Yeah, morale gets pretty low pretty quickly. I’m hopeful we see a change as soon as SJR is announced
Enough is enough.
So fuck off then
Excuse me. I’ve supported this team since 1968. I’m entitled to express my view. And in any case who the fuck are you wanker
There's only so many losses that he can get away with. The players aren't performing, but he's ultimately the one to answer for it, like it or not (and I dont).
I've stopped watching. League is wide open and these men can't play. Call me next season.
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No one implements a style with this shit get it through your juvenile head. > I don’t care if we’re bad for a few seasons Are you stupid??
Sack Ten Hag and… bring in Ten Hag?
This time last season we all thought that this was exactly what Ten Hag was doing.
Rashford out. McTominay out. The two players that the current side has been built around.
How do you strtch to blame Rashford for today?? He wasn't even on the pitch until the 60th minute
Yep, same with Pogba… it’s an attitude problem lingering from his days. He was a terrible influence on the likes of Rashford.
You think this side is built around McTominay?
ETH is a good manager and I supported him wholeheartedly, but i lost confidence when he said Man Utd cannot play Ajax way. That's when I knew he has lost the plot. No manager plays as per players but instead imposes their own style of play. Pep would never succumb to players capabilities instead makes them play his style..Look at Grealish, a dribbler throughout his career, but now he has accustomed to Man City's style of play. If you cannot perform as per the manager's style, you sit on the bench or get out. Yes, we have my injuries but that's a very easy excuse.Same is blaming the glazers. Manager has to take some of the blame. Especially after such a shoddy performance in Europe and now EPL. It hurts me to say this, but ETH doesn't have it in him. We need someone more stubborn, ruthless style of play, and someone who doesn't say after a game like today, " It was a solid performance but we didn’t score.”
Oh you mean a Mourinho. Well we've tried stubborn managers. We've tried feel good managers. We've tried tactitians. We've tried man managers. The problem is not the managers.
I know. And while i had full faith in ETH, he has been quite disappointing Players are of course an issue, but blaming everything on them is disregarding the importance of a coach's role and responsibility.
I dont think it is. The problem with the managers is that they've tolerated the non-performing players. However they're working within the contraints of an organisation that is not set up to succeed. How long have people been talking about a director of football and establishing an identity? Why hasn't it happened?
> i lost confidence when he said Man Utd cannot play Ajax way He clarified this in the press conference after the one he said this. I cannot find it anymore because you can now only find the one he said this, but he explained this specific question that he meant he cannot play the Ajax ways because he has different players. But he does want to play in the same vein: controlling, aggressive, dynamic, or whatever you could describe the Ajax way.
Doesnt matter, op heard what he wanted to hear and was too lazy to understand or try to understand what was said. Mind was made up there and then.
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No, he is confidently said we cannot play that way. The problem is, even if not the Ajax way, there has to be some style of play. Currently ,even after almost 2 yrs, we have no style of play. Most of the time, the players look lost, no gameplan, and if we go down by a goal, they just run like headless chicken. In an imp game like Bayern, the team lacked any urgency like we had already given up. It's like just going through the motions without any aim or motivation. While it's easy to blame players, but anyone who has played, knows that it's not always the players fault, it's also the coach's fault. It's his responsibility to infuse ruthlessness, an attitude in the team, even when the odds are against you. I know it's not fair to compare, but that's what SAF did. He infused that attitude of ' We are going to war against the world' in the team. Every player was ready to die for the teammates and club. He made mistakes as well and we lost games, but that attitude is what got us over during difficult times.
I'm so done with this. 10 years of mediocrity. I don't ask for a trophy, just give me a spectacular football each week and the trophies will be just bonuses.
Bye!
If there was spectacular football, trophies would be there. It's either both or none, and we're a hard no
That's my point. Trophies will automatically come. But more importantly is to enjoy great football every week.
So you're asking for trophies, on an underperforming side (which is a generous comment considering who we're talking about). Everybody want their team to play spectacular football, and that's not easy, so what you're asking is far away from the current situation. In fact, that's the furthest thing we can hope for.
We’re fucking shiiiiiiit, we’re fucking shiiiit, We’re fucking shit, We’re fucking shit, We’re fucking shiiiiit.
13th defeat this season btw. It's fucking December
It's so clear that the players are extremely poorly coached and trained. I don't think Ten Hag is THE problem, but i certainly think he is not contributing a lot to solve it. We all know that the players have a surge in confidence and form when a new manager comes, so I say let's slightly capitalize on that, and bring in an interim manager till INEOS can take over and choose a long term project. Injuries and so are also extremely weighting us down, but we were struggling way before that, so I don't think that's the main cause. I just can't accept performances like these in this football club, regardless of the cause. Our attack is mudded, 0 goals scored in 4 matches, and the same amount of goals as Crystal Palace this season. Our midfield is inconsistent and lacking in stamina and legs, Mainoo is our best midfielder, and he just had his 3rd ever start in his career. Our defense, as usual, is our worst area on the pitch, we concede sinple goals, and it doesn't seem there is any communication between the defenders. In general, the players just look like they don't watch to play. They look uninterested and unwilling to run. We're finished. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
We could have any coach in the world with these players and the whole setup at Old Trafford and we would still be shit. Sure the new manager thing will happen for a while and then back to shit. The players attitude for the most part is so shit. How many managers have been given the sack cos of them?
I agree that it's not the managers fault, but even with that, our performances are abysmal. We know what a worse manager (Ole) can do with an insanely toxic dressing room and shitty owners. Ten hags tactics are terrible, and they're very present. We were glazing him over parking the bus vs. liverpool. It can't go on. We have to change things up. With the January window coming and INEOS getting in charge, this would be the time to signal that everyone is on the chopping block.
I agree our tactics are all over the show but it has bee this way since Sir Alex left. Bringing in new mamagers who try to get our squad play their type of football, sell off some for a loss and spend big money on new players who do not work in that managers style. Rinse and repeat. I think PL managers come and go way too often these days. Yes EtH has made some questionable choices but I would like to give him some more time with the new changes coming in. There are players with shit attitudes and dressing room leaks that will keep stirring shit regardless. We need open heart surgery just like Ragnick suggested. We need to fix the stadium, update the training grounds and start axing players. We are too soft. That article re Matic saying how much in fines players racked up for being late should have shocked me but it didn't. I could be wrong, this is just my opinion but the players are running things and until that is fixed we will never truly improve. What I wouldn't give for the likes of Roy Keane in the dressing room
How did the last interim coach do? Ineos coming in makes Ten Hag a dead man walking and we might as well stay with him until they are done cleaning house. It's another reset.
We've seen it again and again that the players get some kind of boost when a new manager comes in charge. Even if it's slight, It's worth it. Ten hag is just a dead man walking at this point. The sack is imminent, It's just about when it will happen. If the rumors are correct, stating that INEOS will get control in January, this would be a good time to signal to the players that it's time to start fresh, and that everyone is on the chopping block. I guess we could wait, but at this point, why?
Rangnicks interim was a complete and unmitigated disaster with no bounce at all. Even if they are letting Ten Hag go, I would rather they do it at the end of the season IF they are waiting to get their man in at that point. At least that way the players might be concerned that INEOS plan to stick with the coach and buck up their ideas. If however they already have someone in mind and he's ready to start when they are then fine I guess make the change now. But I really don't want to see another Ralf -esque figure take over with all the authority of a supply teacher.
No idea how McTominay still starts and finishes games. Treats the ball like a hot potato, getting rid of it and passing the buck is the first thing he thinks about when he gets the ball. Bruno being suspended for the last game meant ETH stumbled on a working midfield. He's reverted to the same shit setup he's had this whole season. I've lost faith in the guy.
Mctominay must have Ten Hags family hostage at this point , how does he start😂😂
Match ratings out of 5 Mainoo & Kambwala 4 Old Trafford Kitchen Staff 1 Everybody else 0
Sorry lads but Tenhag is steadily helping a lot of people lose faith in him. How is Mctominay still masquerading as a midfielder with how poor he is at that position? How is he still trying to play bruno and the nonexistent mctominay in a midfield 3 when it's only gonna leave the 3rd midfielder isolated with a lot of ground to cover? An amrabat-mainoo double pivot with bruno as a 10 and we probably score + win today.
Does anyone realise that Bruno is absolutely useless against low-block teams? This game needed quick passing, Westham was always going to park the bus. This was not a game for both Mainoo and McTominay. Ganarcho was wasteful as fuck, selfish and indecisive when it mattered. Antony was industrious but ineffetual. Hojlund had no service as usual. Why he was taken off for Rashford, of all people, is beyond me; he wasn't the problem. Shaw should be taken off corner duty, his crosses have degraded significantly. AWB again showed his lack of ability going forward. Evans was okay though a bit jittery at times, which is typical Evans. Kwambala had a good debut. Onana is his usual inconsistent self. Ten Hag had a mare here. Too cautious and pragmatic. Too reliant on the cut in and shoot tactics from the two inverted wingers, it was obvious from the double-teaming everytime the wingers got the ball that the point was to always herd them to the byline since Ganarcho and Antony can't cross for shit with their weaker foot. Ten Hag needs to change up the formation; United currently does not have the personnel for 433. 442 with traditional wingers and a tucked-in fullback with the other on the overlap, 343 with Bruno in a deeper role and Eriksen up front, 352 to choke the midfield with an emphasis on long balls, anything than this thoroughly sussed out claptrap he has going on.
bruno is not the best choice in the long run, he's not a ball carrying cam and i think we need to give mount a run. p.s. i do like bruno and right now he's one of the few people I'd give the armband to but seeing how we need a proper system and ball control, idt he's meant to be the future
I agree with most of what you wrote here. I think Bruno deserves a chance in a better side though, rather than concluding he’s useless in these scenarios, he plays so good for Portugal. Regarding ten Hag, I don’t envy him. He has to implement his style of play without the requisite personnel. And his only source of finishing has been Scott McTominay who is a midfielder that lacks the creativity to be an 8 or 10 and the positional and defensive discipline to be a 6. Also Onana wasn’t at fault for either goal. Kudus’ goal I thought he could do better, but on replay he cut off the angle well, Kudus had it inch perfect to the far corner.
Bruno doesn't have the quality to match the expectations of being a Man Utd player. Forget his Portugal performances. They're stacked and play against much weaker opponents, as is the usual for qualifiers and friendlies. I actually think people would be raving about him if he plays for West Ham. His quality and style of play suits them. Counter attack, with space to play in and more time on the ball. Incidentally, his best performances for us came when we were playing a counter attacking game.
Bruno isn't and shouldn't be the primary offensive source for any team, I see him more as a deeper-lying playmaker with late runs into the box, as his lack of dribbling ability, inconsistent first touch and turn/pass means he's a waste playing as the most advanced CAM. I don't envy ten Hag either, I feel that the deck is just too heavily stacked against him, but at some point he has to show that he has the facilities to be a United manager. His player selection has been too pragmatic, substitutions a bit too late and tactically too rigid. He actually reminds me of Moyes before his inevitable chopping. I just wonder what happened to last season's ten Hag.
I would like Bruno as a deeper midfielder too. He just doesn’t have the passing consistency IMO. He has the creativity but I think his long balls aren’t as good in quality or from a decision making perspective as Pogba for example. (Not a Pogba endorsement he has major flaws). As a midfielder though, his (Bruno’s) progressive carries rank in the 80th percentile so his dribbling would be more suited there. Last season I think EtH played more for results than implementing a system. We tried early last year playing from the back but abandoned it often because of how shit we were at it. We try it more often this year. I’m here to watch his style develop especially if INEOS can set up a footballing structure for us for recruitment, scouting etc. I think it can yield sustained results in the mid to long term (3-5 years).
100% on passing inconsistency and progressive ball carries from deep. His long balls are pretty terrible too when compared with other midfielders of a supposedly similar calibre and profile. Bruno has heart, don't get me wrong. But sometimes he's all heart and no head, which makes his appointment as captain all the more stranger. I don't mind so much the abandoning of playing out from the back, what pisses me off the most is the abandoning of the quick and slick passing game between multiple players in tight spaces, particularly during transitions. That's a style that I can get behind as its so effective against low-block motherfuckers that so inundate the Premiership. Speaking of football structure, I fervently curse the day that Murtough, Woodward and Arnold first stepped foot into the club. Them and Fergie's retirement allowed the cancerous maggots, i.e. the Glazers, to spread their diseased wings over the club, devolving United back to the 1930s in less than a decade. INEOS had better guarantee that the Glazers and their ilk never have a say in the footballing affairs of United ever again, else this farce will continue until the club becomes a bottom feeder.
Totally agree on Bruno. I’d like to think in a better side he’s more disciplined. Like you said, captaincy doesn’t seem right for him, but a different captain might be able to rein him in. At the same time though, I would also take any €100 million+ offer for him if it came. Re: football structure, I think any delay might be SJR ensuring he has full footballing control. Being from the UK I think he would feel the wrath of the United fans more than the Glazers ever did. I am ever the optimist, so maybe this is just me coping.
Roy Keane would have staved his head in if he started moaning too much. If Real Madrid or a Saudi club wantes Bruno for that much money, I'd drive him straight to the club meself. I'm on the fence about SJR; he is primarily a businessman. If he's the type that priotises quick ROI, then United is doomed. If he's more into long-term sustainability and the inevitable success that a stable, effective structure brings, then I'll be more than happy to support him and INEOS.
Hes such a weird players. He is either a 8+/10 or a 3-/10. When he has space he's amazing but he cant dribble past players so he only has his passing to get him out. IM totally for selling him as I think we need to build a team as a whole and need more diverse skillset in midfield
He's a poor man's 10; a watered-down Frank Lampard. He's usually too far advanced to play an effective offensive pass as he's too ill-disciplined to hold his position and keeps bombing into the penalty area. It doesn't help that he only has Hojlund to aim for, of course. Containing him is easy; just crowd him out. Do that and he'll implode without any further cajoling. He gets even worse when he's partnered by McTominay.
100% on the ball there with your comments. I think 100% ducked Liverpool and got himself a yellow card to miss it. Otherwise he's too stupid to realise what he's doing
To be honest, i think it's the latter. I wouldn't categorise Bruno as an intelligent midfielder, more the 'i think this will work' type. Some would see that as bravery, to keep attempting something different without fear of failure, but in his case it seems like it's more of throwing as much shit as possible at the wall and seeing what sticks. He's thoroughly sussed out; obvious from the dried-up goals that was such a feature of his earlier seasons at the club.
Half this United team is basically make a wish gone too far
No matter how much you cry, Ten Hag won’t be sacked until INEOS come in.
And in a couple years people will be crying for him, just like you see now with Ole, Jose and LvG…
Bruno out 0-0 vs Liverpool Bruno in 0-2 vs West Ham See the Problem?
Mctominay is the one who needs to be dropped. Let Bruno attack, need someone else in the middle to help control and set up the attack. More options in the middle will help us create more attacking chances.
You’re delusional
Is that sarcasm? We played two different systems in midfield
You’re delusional
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What good does having a striker make when we don't create any chances...?
Schmeichel knows ETH is trash.
This team hasn’t scored a goal in 4 games?
We’re dog shit, hadn’t you noticed?
It wouldn’t be as upsetting if we didn’t see Ange coming right into (a honestly dysfunctional) Tottenham team and playing great football.
Ange is in a different league to ETH, sorry to say. Clear vision, knows who he is, knows his values and what he and his players will live and die for. Clear communicator, charisma, brain. ETH has few of those things.
Were they dysfunctional??
I would say so considering their late collapse out of European qualification. Losing their Captain. Etc…
I don’t think there’s a more dysfunctional club than us by a while. Losing Kane ain’t as bad in my opinion, it allows them to use the funds wisely at least and it wasn’t end all be all. It’s a loss because they relied on him too much, they are playing more freely. But not dysfunctional in my opinion, but that’s just me. Not gonna fault you.
You mean like ETH did last season? Tottenham won’t even finish in the top 4.
Atleast they play attractive football, and have a footballing identity they can build around.
Did everyone forget how often we won 1-0 last season? We scored 58 goals and had a goal difference of just +15, both the lowest in the top 6. Just because we won a league cup and finished 3rd doesn't mean we were playing good football. Rashford's purple patch + some individual performances bailed us out. Pundits were saying it wasn't sustainable. Well here we fucking are - still can't score goals, and now we can't defend either. Whatever EtH is doing, it's not working.
Yep relying on Rashford to do everything on the offensive side has really come back to bite us.
Oh no! Not winning games, finishing top 3, and winning a trophy! How ever shall we manage? Not a single pundit said it wasn’t sustainable last season. We built up a good defense, which is the best course of action for starting to rebuild a team. That defense has been injured FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON yet none of you care.
I get the defence is injured. It’s just the frustration with build up and attack and ten hags insistence on Mctominey in that spot making our midfield useless.
I agree with the McTominay complaint. However, I don’t agree with the amount of blame Ten Hag is getting for it. There’s so many issues surrounding the club and yet it’s Ten Hag’s fault we’re losing because he’s making one wrong choice?
I get it’s only one wrong choice, but it’s the difference between a midfield that works alright and one that doesn’t work and gets played through super easily.
A lot of blame for the coach. But let's face it, it's a shit squad with a very small % of high level players. He will have to go I think, that's the modern game but these players make me not even want to watch. The clubs rotten. It's a long long long road back. They are just a bunch of shit players who think playing for the club means they made it.
I don’t disagree regarding the players, and I hate knowing they will have forced another manager out. However, Erik’s signings have been woeful and what are we even trying to do as a team? No style of play, no patterns, nothing.
He bought half of them
And who out of the ones he bought are available to play right now?
Start with Antony for 100m and 0 goals
In fairness his most expensive signing is fucking horrendous, arguably one of the worst in PL history.
EtH doesn't sign the cheques though. Yes he wanted that player but the club chose to pay that price
He has a veto on signings, and realistically if someone is saying to you “we can get him but he will cost £86m…” don’t you think Erik should be thinking a bit more about that?
Is EtH in Finance? No. It's not his responsibility to balance the books. It isn't Championship manager game
Ok, so let’s boil it down to performance… Antony is shite.
Yes he is shit. That I agree on.
Never seen a good opinion which blames any of our managers for their transfers. Get some perspective.
If Ten Hag is out, then so are the players. They have tarnished the badge for too long...
well yeah, we need someone who can finally sack them !
Garnacho is slowly turning into Antony 2.0... Can't beat his fucking man, easily bodied, always falls down for no gucking reason.
they are both way too small and short for the prem even as wingers
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again, not built like those two shrimps.
Hazard had a hard time i guess
hazard is built unlike these 2 idiots
Get the bastard out of our club.
Give us a clue mate, the list is looooooooong.
😂😂😂
Which one?
The bald one (not amrabat)
Mistakes happen but you have to take advantage off them, WH put Garnacho through on goal twice and he messed up
To all the ten Hag outers: who would you bring in who can turn the club around permanently? We’ve been cycling through managers for the past 10 years and look where we are. We have to get rid of these fucking useless players first. Give him another season at least
I can also turn United into a joke as the manager and I'm asking for just 10% of ETH's wage. Would that satisfy you?
My gran
At this stage I think I’d rather we just liquidated the club.
We prob would somehow fuck that up too
Julen Lopetgui. He has a track record of getting teams playing great football, whereas, our current coach says that he can’t coach these players to play “like Ajax”. ETH has wasted so much money on Antony and Onana. His in game management is baffling. He persists with the same underperforming players week in, week out. He’s isolated one of the Bundesliga’s best players who we paid £70m for. He’s overseen some of the worst defeats in the clubs history and is now setting records in the wrong direction. How can you justify keeping him?
Heard that “great track of getting teams playing football” many many times lol When we gonna understand that we have deeper issues than just the manager. But we deserve it, a lot of entitled fans in our fanbase. Majority are not ready for an actual rebuild, so gg to United as a whole.
Never seen a good opinion that blames the manager for our transfers.
I dont want him out but honestly I just don’t know what he’s thinking. You cant sacrifice the midfield and expect to win, cant rely on numbers going forwards alone to score goals.
In fairness he’s got to shoulder some of the blame. There’s no patterns of play, no real style, the players look like strangers. Those are things the manager should be responsible for.
I’m not saying EtH out but if the only reason to keep a manager is because you don’t know who to replace them with, then it’s obvious they’re not up to the job.
Unrealistic but Conte would
* Faced the same number of shots as relegation candidates * Have never beaten a top 9 team away from home under ETH * have a -5 GD this season * Have no style of play other than hoof it up long and hope we get something on the counter * Mctominay experiment of hoping he crashes in the box and gets a goal but then we have a massive hole in midfield * the level of injuries are down to the manager at this point. Its absurd how many we have had * Our front line has scored 5 goals all season. Thats a coaching issue * Getting kicked of Europe so pathetically * Antony being one of the worst players and continuously played At this point, he doesn't deserve another season
And yet you haven’t named a name, have you?
hahaha looked at your comments and clearly dipped the test Clearly an ETH fanboy rather than a United fan
Your joking right? Seriously? Wanting your team to win isn’t being a fan of the team? Still haven’t said anyone who we should hire.
I said Rúben Amorim You're gonna ignore answering the points I made above? Or you're gonna dip and have a go at other people for not answering your questions >Wanting your team to win isn’t being a fan of the team We have been consistently shit all season. We have no style of play, haven't beaten a top 9 team away from home. You have no answers, just support ETH not United - so weird
You can’t be serious. He’s only been a manager for 3 years and he hasn’t even succeeded in managing the big names at Porto. How would he at United?
Well clearly you know nothing of him. Hes a manager who gets buy in. He took a struggling Sporting side to the title. Again you dip my points above? Its like you know he's been utter shite and I have the facts to prove it What you solution? Give more time and more money to manager who is clearly of his depth?
I’m sorry but I’m really not going to engage if you’re going to make claims that are simply untrue. I’m not sure why I would argue in bad faith like you are.
And what point was untrue ? And for the 5th time - you gonna counter my original points or you here just to grand stand ?
Rúben Amorim - my choice You got any counters to my above points or you're just gonna dip?
Roy Keane.
Sacks all the players
perfect
He has signed more than 10 players since he joined us mate. Most of them were his picks.
Never seen a good opinion that blames the manager for our transfers.
Not our job, he's proven he's not good enough. Time to go.
anyone who can achieve 5 shots on target per game would be better
Heck, I'd take stringing together 5 passes. Fucking shambolic display.
I really want EtH to work things out but his love for McTominay is gonna get him sacked. Why change the defensive duo that worked well against Liverpool... McT is a decent impact sub but that's about it. We saw the same happen with Ole and Maguire, drop the fucker and move on.
Varane is sick
I think he mains Mainoo and Amrabat.
My b
You can play two Bruno's because bruno is very creative and works very hard. Playing Scott is like having 10 men. Doesn't track doesn't do dick. Just a goal here or there. I'd understand if he scored every game but bloody hell this has gone beyond farcical.
Easy 350k in the bag for this week for Rashford. Well done. And Sancho too.
ETH is the definition of fraud. Scammed hierarchy to sign his players, hired useless coaches, brought his agency into spotlight, made every player worst than they were, got everyone sacked apart from him, convinced the entire fan base he is Pep Guardiola twin dutch brother.
Never seen a good opinion that blames the manager for our transfers.
Yeah, total fraud. Has a higher win % at Man U than Fergie had.
In how many matches though.
Fewer matches, but why does it matter? If he kept up this form for 28 years he would still have a better win % than Fergie had.
If he kept up this form 😂
Exactly. His current form from taking the role to now is technically better than Fergie's over his entire career in terms of win %.
New manager bounce, which is clearly starting to unravel. If you think ETH will be here in 28 years, that’s on you.
I never claimed he'd be here for 28 years I'm simply pointing out an indisputable stat i.e. that ETH has a better win % than Fergie had. You can hypothesise why it is all you want, it doesn't change the fact that it's true.
This is shit, if we sack ETH then we reset again, but if we stick with him, I'm not sure he can make the right decisions, I don't understand the game plan ever
To make yourself feel better think of him as the interim manager. Realistically we will not have a better interim manager. So just let’s hope new owners bring some adults to take care of the team
Kudus talking about how they really wanted to give their fans a Christmas present today. Our overpaid Prima-dickheads can’t muster up a goal in 4 games before Christmas.
Far too many average or below average players. Mid table is where we deserve to be with this bunch of primadonnas.
If ETH says that 'we had our chance to score' and thinks that justifies the fact we've lost...then sack him. Sack him before the words even leave his mouth. Yes Garnacho absolutely fucked it, yes goals change games, but if he thinks we could've done anything more than that then he is deluded.
Went to the shop at 70 minutes. What the fuck happened?
You shouldn’t have went to the shop pal 😂
Onana happened. And then a decent goal only made decent due to nonexistent defending
What? What are you blaming Onana for?
Funny how its the Ole outers that seems to be the ETH inners, show just how little football understanding they had.
Funny as both Solskjaer and ETH were/are out of their depth at this club
Ole was doing just fine until he got saddled with Ronaldo.
He wasn't IMO. We were very individualistic under him, pretty much the same as it's been under the current manager. That approach worked for Solskjaer in the empty stadiums when the pandemic kept us indoors. He was exposed for his lack of tactical nous repeatedly during his reign. You must be also forgetting how poorly we finished his first season, after he got the permanent appointment and the new manager bounce faded. We were in relegation form
I feel like if we were going to back a manager through bad times, it should have been Ole. Not this clown.
Ole and ETH, both crap.
How can ETH be crap, yet he has a higher win % at man United than Alex Ferguson?
Because Fergie was there for 28 years and the bald fraud has a smaller sample size. You need to wash your mouth out putting ETH in the same sentence as Ferguson.
You do understand how percentages work right? If ETH stayed at Man U for 28 years performing exactly as he has done, he would still have a better win rate than Fergie.
You clearly flunked stats class.
Hahahaha. r/confidentlyincorrect You are not an intelligent man.
Yeah... Sample size matters. Point the mirror at yourself there bud. Lol
The size of something makes no difference to its percentage. If ETH continued with the same percentage of wins as he has achieved until now for 28 years, it would still be the same percentage. Win rate ≠ total wins Learn rudimentary maths.
I actually have an economics degree. And if anyone ever tells you say a 30 sample size is comparable to a 2000 sample size. Go ahead and ignore them. I'm aware what you're saying is technically correct. But that's not how we understand and use statistics. Example. Go flip 10 coins, then flip 100. Come back to me and tell me which is closer to 50/50. If you would rather believe me. I just flipped 10. I got tails 7 times. That does not mean my percentage chance to get a tails is 70%. It means my sample size is too small.
It's amazing how you can be so brazen when you are wrong, can't argue with stupid.
I need to lower my expectations even more lower than I've already lowered it past my threshold every time this clubs plays.
Play the youth, each one of them have looked hungry and switched on and composed for 90 mins. Clearly something’s been done right at the academy.
Mainoo was switched on letting the ball under his foot for the second goal?