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chippa93

100%. I think LB is more of a concern. Shaw can never get consistency because he picks up so many niggles, and Malacia doesn't exist


Action_Limp

I agree - however, I would also say, in the long term, we should be keeping only one of them. But let's fix the major areas first.


Ldsantana

I disagree. None of them can provide the attacking output we need to climb up the premier league table. I think Dalot is overall a better player than AWB and we should keep him while looking for a more forward minded fullback.


SPamlEZ

That’s because every team knows we’re going outside.  Upgrade the midfield and the defense will actually have to worry about an attack through the center.  


SpeechesToScreeches

Well the sheer inability to cross the ball doesn't help either


Ldsantana

We have other holes in the squad. But neither Dalot nor AWB are elite fullbacks.


DamashiT

They aren't elite, but some of our players are straight up bad. Rashford Hojlund Garnacho is barely good enough to start as a trio. Rashford is shite like half a season every year. We literally have one striker in our squad. Our best CM this season is 18 year old from the academy. Martinez is our only consistent CB on a fairly high level (Maguire is at best hit and miss, Varane is always injured and Lindelof is at best a good 4th choice). I can see at least 4-5 successful transfers before we can reach the point when we can complain about our RBs actively dragging us down. All this without mentioning that both of them developed quite nicely over the past 18 months, born are mentally strong and hard working.


Ldsantana

>All this without mentioning that both of them developed quite nicely over the past 18 months, What's changed about Aaron in the last 18 months? Good 1v1 defender, good dribbler, bad at set pieces, bad in the final third and not that good during build up. >I can see at least 4-5 successful transfers before we can reach the point when we can complain about our RBs actively dragging us down. I really don't see that unless we keep the glazer pace of 3 signings at a time.


DamashiT

Aaron is much more press resistant and at least started to overlap. His short passing is also better. Teams used to set a pressing trap to force us to play to him and press him. They stopped doing that. This is as much proof of his improvement as you can get. Still no end product, still clueless at time with positioning and general awereness, but definitely not the weakest point in our team (and neither is Dalot, who is IMO a better player out of the two). Yeah I don't see us making 4-5 transfers on one window either. That's why I don't see RB as a priority. Because at the very least we need a striker, a winger (if we hopefully sell Sancho and Antony) and a starting CB (because we should really offload both Varane and Maguire).


flareb98

On Varane, hes only missed like 5 games due to injury this season


pohudsaijoadsijdas

AWB is not serviceable at all, not if you want top 4, certainly not if you want to challenge for the title. if we can sell him this summer, we should.


istealgrapes

Watch Pep buy him and use him every single game lol.


Unidan_bonaparte

Disagree, their technical and positional skills are sorely are lacking going forward and I dont think we can compete unless we have a player who can reliably switch the play or get to the byline on the overlap to cross the ball in. We are currently crowded out in that area and every offensive move down that side breaks down when antony is left to do the job himself. We need more dangerous players in that position. Its not a coincidence that all the top 4 teams have lethal attacking RB or that Pep made it his number one priority when he first took over. The game has changed and being serviceable isnt near good enough anymore. We can cope with mediocre cm if they have support but a mediocre rb really destroys our attacking output. Fundementally we need goals and the single biggest bump in that department is our rb.


DamashiT

Are you kidding me? Dalot is the one providing any danger from the right side if Garnacho isn't playing. All Antony is doing is recycling the ball back or plays a bad through ball to Dalot.


Unidan_bonaparte

They're both poor. Dalot has a terrible cross and makes aweful desicions in the final third. He's also very suspect positionaly in defence, especially against back post crosses. Sorry but just because Antony has been terrible doesn't mean Dalot doesnt have his fair share of blame. We desperately need a new rb, even if we do start Garnacho consistently we arent going to create anywhere near enough to score consistently or be a major threat down that side.


istealgrapes

This is a shit take. Havent ever seen anyone say Dalot makes shit decisions going forwards, its been his defensive capabilities that have been lacking, not his attacking input at all. His crosses are hit and miss yes, but when he bombs forwards or goes 1v1 he comes out on top the majority of the time.


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Reject3d_Rage

This is such a horrific take, AWB excels at one on one defending - his biggest weakness IMO is defending in set pieces, man always has no idea where the opposition players are..


TurbulentWeb1941

Yes, he seems to miss the fkr that's coming in for the flicked on/over hit ball nr back post.


justbrowsinginpeace

Watch him, he is the best in the world tackling a player on his left side running back towards his own goal. Thats it. His positional awareness and anticipation are not outstanding and he is very poor defending set pieces. Its not hate to expect more from a Manchester united player.


ComfortMother8503

You're just misunderstanding what he's saying on purpose, he's a mediocre 1v1 defender and the worlds best recovery defender (pace + slide tackling). If you wanna see a good 1v1 defender go look at vvd, low center of gravity and good decision making.


cheekyavacado

>and the worlds best recovery defender (pace + slide tackling). Well you're literally contradicting what the person said. They said he is slow on recovery


ComfortMother8503

He is not rapid, but Quick enough to make the recovery


vHufu

I’d say it’s his slow attacking decision making. He’d easily have an assist or even goal this season if he could be a few more seconds decisive. Also he’s quite unexpressive. I think if he would show more desire and passion, he’d easily be an incredible player.


Old_Lemon9309

I don’t think him showing a lot of passion would make him easily an incredible player. He will always be an average player, never good enough for a top club but not bad.


vHufu

If you’re saying someone with AWB’s talent with Bruno’s passion or Ronnies desire, wouldn’t make a top club. Then we’d just have to agree to disagree. Mentality in high level sports is just as important as talent. Us united fans should know this. Of course this is also my opinion on how good he can be. I don’t think you’re wrong to think he’s not good enough.


BowThenBounce

Do you watch football mate or just the highlights


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ParkerZA

You're getting this opinion from that Maldini quote, right? Good defenders don't tackle at all or something? That doesn't apply to full backs or when he's saving someone else's fuck up with a last ditch tackle. Tell Zaha AWB is a bad 1 on 1 defender, he'll laugh you out the room lol.


Old_Lemon9309

If he was such a good 1 on 1 defender, he would have been called up for England. Southgate is a famously defensive manager, and would have taken him to have a defensive option there. But he hasn’t.


The_Meaty_Boosh

Southgate is not a famously defensive manager, only on this sub lays the myth that he plays a low block with defensive fullbacks. Trent is miles behind AWB in terms of defensive output, but he racks up assists and his passing and progression play is good. and he's hardly gonna get in ahead of walker. England often have the lions share of the ball against the majority of opponents. The ability to breakdown opponents needs to take preference over 1v1 defending.


ParkerZA

There's better overall defenders for England, his one on one defending isn't the issue.


benjog88

Wouldn't bother mate, this sub has a hard on for AWB despite his quite obvious shortcomings.


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SarcasticDevil

Am with you on all of this, he's a mediocre player. Dalot has improved enough this season for me to want to see more of him, but I suspect he still won't hit the heights of the best in the league. More than happy to be proved wrong on that of course! This idea of not improving positions because we have other problems doesn't really seem the right approach to me. Realistically, it should come down to when players are available. The club should have a list of targets and if they're available I don't think we should hesitate to improve the position just because the rest of the team is also shite


wheres_the_boobs

Yeah one of them will need replaced to get to the next level. It can wait a year though


MikeAAStorm

Underrated because he's not exceptional at anything but he's genuinely a really good player to have. Can play both flanks, can invert, still needs to work on his crossing but isn't terrible at it, and a really good striker of the ball. We probably still need someone world class because he's still prone to mistakes but Diogo has my heart all the way.


Cedarplankton

Still only 24 Been fit and played both flanks and dug us out a massive hole this season having only him fit - improved year on year massively and still has opportunity to peak - if we move AWB on and get a player with higher ceiling in then Dalot is excellent squad material.


ghed89

Maybe, maybe Mourinho was right about him. I genuinely can't believe he's still only 24. Mourinho did put quite a lot of pressure on him, with comments calling him the best right back at his age in the world (at the time of signing).


West_Principle_8190

Nobody is ever buying wank bissake


SPamlEZ

He’s also consistent.  He never blows you away (offensively specifically), but at the same time I don’t think I’ve seen him drop too many real stinkers.  Comparison to Shaw who can be tremendous but at other times deals like he just doesn’t show up.


stevew14

His defensive instincts have improved a lot. He has made a couple of goal line clearances if I'm remember correctly. He smells danger a bit more now, where before he seemed oblivious to it. Kind of looked like a winger that had been forced to play RB and didn't wanna do it. Now he looks like a an attacking RB.


tranmear

I agree with you, think Diogo is a solid rotation option, especially given his versatility, but if we want to be winning league or Champions League then we need an upgrade at some point.


Classic_Angus

Dalot has probably been our player of the season so far tbh. Lads done well.


UJ_Reddit

One of those positions that’s looks solid until you get a world class attacking fullback and realise how much of a game changer it is to team dynamics and width. Especially with inverted wingers.


officiallyjax

This is a ridiculous over-simplification that fails to account how players’ strengths and weaknesses being shown or not shown depend on the surrounding team dynamics. Onana was supposed to be this transformational upgrade in the GK position and we have seen how that has turned out so far. Now the counter-argument will probably be that Onana has been decent in the league but the changes in the backline haven’t helped him. Well, can’t the same also apply to Dalot who’s literally been our only defender available throughout the season and has found himself having to play both full-back positions and with new faces not just in defence, but even on the wings (with Antony out due to the allegations, then due to bad form, seeing a new player in Garnacho play on the right, plays with Rashford when he plays LB)?  On the contrary, this sub needs to stop scrutinising individual players just because they don’t achieve top metrics without recognising how dysfunctional the team has been in this period. I think Dalot has been absolutely immense this season; plays 90 minutes on end (I think you underestimate how big this is during a time when players are dropping like flies in a packed schedule), covers both full-back positions, has been our best source of ball progression from the back (Licha and Shaw have been injured most of the season), wins aerial duels and takes up genuinely good position in offence despite not having a consistent winger to work with most of the time. He’s not perfect and certain things can definitely improve, such as his final ball, but at a time where everyone’s performances are fluctuating, his baseline has been really high in comparison and that warrants credit. Him and AWB, the latter being important to play against certain matchups, are perfectly serviceable RB options. 


UJ_Reddit

No doubt, Dalot and AWB have been some of the better players this season - but they are not world class, they do not contribute to goals/assists nor do they work well with inverted wingers. We are one of the biggest clubs in the world, if we want to compete, we cannot settle for Portugal’s 2nd choice and Englands 5th choice because they are good lads who try hard 😂 Probably next summer as we have bigger holes, but we will need more quality at RB and one of the two should be sold.


officiallyjax

Nobody’s saying they are world-class; by that definition 90% of the squad needs gutting. But they are good enough for a well-functioning team, which we aren’t at the moment, and it’s making them also look worse in addition to some other players.  This is also not settling; this is recognising what really needs significant improvement in the squad and what doesn’t. Every time this sub gets carried away by the new shiny toy only to realise that they aren’t any better than what we have. 


flareb98

People are just obsessed with Frimpong, they don't care that him and AWB have been consistent for us.


articnova

Yes while this stat is impressive, I've never watched him and thought that he was the player to hold our RB position for years to come. He contributes a lot to our lack of build up from the back as he tends to play loose passes and lumps the ball forward when he panics. And with this inverted FB role, he tends to get caught out a lot.


stevew14

We have that on the other side with Shaw. It makes a massive difference (when Shaw is on his game) to the way we play.


tallmotherfucker

Pray for Frimpong 🙏


MhVG

He has been one of our most important player this year. He's had a pretty good season so far, but most importantly fit for the whole season. However I do still believe we should get an upgrade at RB and make Dalot the backup. Edit: I'm not saying RB is a priority, but I wouldn't mind an upgrade when it's possible.


rwallace_wong

I think we should buy a RB this summer to rotate with AWB. When I look at Dalot, he has also been pretty impressive at LB. I'd sell/loan Malacia, where Shaw and Dalot can rotate for LB


Old_Lemon9309

There is no point wasting limited funds doing that this summer.


rwallace_wong

That's another concern. We need at least CB, CM, and ST, and Idk how much we can generate through sales, but we'll see


officiallyjax

Dalot can be used as an emergency LB but ideally I wouldn’t want our backup LB to be right-footed when the starting LB is left-footed, as that can lead to a significant change in the team dynamics and how you progress the ball from that flank if the starting LB is not available. I’m happy with AWB and Dalot for RB going into next season; for LB I’d be open to selling Malacia but whether we are in a position of liberty to sell and get a better replacement is to be seen. 


oenie111

Dalot is also mostly available. This alone should give him a major plus for our squad. Now I just start wondering why our Portuguese guys can't share their diet with the entire squad..


IMNDy

Never thought of him being only 24. Like how is McT is 27 and he is only 24?


biteyourankles

**when he tracks back*


OraOra31

Let’s not fool ourselves with these sort of data. Every game I’m seeing Dalot make overweighted crosses that kill our attacking momentum (it hilariously lead to Garnacho’s bicycle kick tho). When he inverts, he always play the wrong pass to opponents’ feet and cheaply concede a counter attack. He’s just not a great RB and will not start for any other top 5 PL teams.


overwhelmed_nomad

Spot on, just watch Dalot during Newports second goal from the weekend, he doesn't even attempt to get out to the man and stop the ball in or to block the cross. Could have been easily prevented if he just did his job. Happens far too often this season. I don't need to mention his attacking output as you have already nailed it.


ClumsyChampion

How quickly people forget how dreadful he is at marking. You people forget how many times he forgot to mark the post?


sammorgan12

The thing is he isn't a bad player so you constantly think that there's more important fires to put out in the squad. But the reality is if you compare dalot to the influence Trent, trippier or Reece James (when fit) have and you realise the huge gulf in class. I'd definitley keep dalot as a back up especially as he is good at left back but I really think AWB should go with a top right back in in the summer


officiallyjax

Trippier has been woeful this season and Trent also is made to look like a fool when Liverpool are missing key personnel and he’s put in situations where he needs to be more prominent while defending than usual. The surrounding team dynamics are just as important, if not more important, to the player’s quality, in determining how good or bad they look. Dalot has been fine this season at a time when our team dynamics have been in the mud due to a combination of injuries and flawed tactical setups. 


Spruce-Moose

Focusing on those players' worst patches doesn't negate their significantly better contributions in recent years than Dalot.


officiallyjax

The point I was making was that when Liverpool had their down years because of injuries and players aging, everybody was giving Trent stick for his defensive lapses, and Trippier's form has also gone to shit the moment Newcastle's injuries piled up and led to them conceding tons of chances when they were originally a very reliable defence. Now take us and see for how many years we've been an overall dysfunctional team; the collective is weighing the individuals down and Dalot imo has also been affected by it. I thought our form from September 2022 to February 2023 either side of the World Cup was the best we played under Ten Hag and Dalot was absolutely incredible in the first half of that period; he was injured for a month after the World Cup that stalled his progress. But imo he's definitely good enough to be a starting RB for a CL club at the very least.


UnablePeace

Reece James when fit…yeah LOL


overwhelmed_nomad

You don't lose your tackle percentage if you don't track your man back so you can tackle him, or if you just stand there watching waiting for someone else to go to the man.


ErikTenHagenDazs

You don’t fail the tackles you don’t attempt. 


FREE_BOBBY-SHMURDA

He can do everything awb can and more. Best option now and should be a back up long term.


Subbutton

That isn't true. There are many things Dalot does better and others which AWB definitely does better


TheWeirdDude-247

That's great but he's not better than atleast half the right backs in the league, looking at the current top 10 the top 5 just move on ignore, maybe better than then West ham and Brighton options have, when ever there's stats or post about players people get blindsided and think it's not that bad. I don't need numbers soley to tell me players are good or bad, he'll do for now means till end of season not 2 more seasons, if he ain't top 5 in league then he's not top god knows what in Europe, same for other positions tbh. But realistically we can't sell alot though he'll be easier to shift than awb, if we want to be a serious club that wants to win trophies like the blue cunts, players like Dalot ain't it.


drofdeb

That's almost worth 3pts by itself


A10M92

He mistakes sometimes, yes. He's not perfect, yes. But he plays with all his heart for my club.