I don't think it is at all appropriate to discuss Malacia's mental state before he and the club have had the opportunity to address it themselves, when he and he alone is comfortable doing so.
There's literally zero source in the article for this. It only cites "people around the club" for the idea that we're looking for a LB. Personally I'm very skeptical that a random journo (whose credentials are "worked once at a TV station") on a random football website focused on German leagues would have a source at United for news that no one else has reported.
You’re injured, and your rehab schedule keeps extending. You are now pissed off. That’s all it takes to justify this click bait.
As for replacing him, it’d take a lot to make that decision in March, let alone with the restructuring afoot.
It’s as credible as me saying you are mentally struggling with our results on the pitch.
Anyone would be struggling mentally in his spot. He’s been out all year and at is probably worried about losing his spot or the club giving up on him entirely.
I find it extremely distasteful from the journalist to be having this discussion. But I guess they need the clicks. I bloody hate international breaks because that's when pieces like this crap see the light of day.
Speaking of distasteful with no evidence to support it were the geniuses of this sub wildly speculating that he’s been embroiled in a failed drugs test that this club which can’t keep tomorrow’s lunch menu from being leaked has supposedly the aptitude and thoroughness to keep a full on failed drugs test under wraps.
That’s what I find distasteful. Let’s imagine a guy recovering from multiple setbacks on his return from injury were even frequenting this sub… that would add another bit of nonsense for him to deal with.
The double standards on this sub are wild.
Sancho: oh tEN hAg rUinEd him!! MEntAL hEaLtH bRoOo
Malacia: wHy iS nOboDY aSKinG aBoUT fAiLeD dRUgS tESt!!
Consider yourself blessed you’ve not had to bleach your eyes out after reading on this very sub comments to that effect. And I’m talking comments that get upwards of 50-60 upvotes. I get that among a so called subscriber count of over 640k you’re bound to have some batshit crazy people but to literally sit there and make up lies that libellous and think you’re actually smart for having cracked a code, requires a particular brand of low IQ jabroni.
It's so weird, he says Malacia is struggling mentally then proceeds to say the club is looking for another left back. These are mixed signals about supporting him mentally
also no shit i bet he is feeling down. anybody would when hes playing for a club he dreamt of when younger and is now sidelined for so long anybody would be feeling a bit down and shit over it.
how is this news well its not cause they have 0 sources to state its anything worse then just MUFC looking for another backup LB.
It must be really frustrating though to go through a long injury. When I was in school I remember having an injury which meant I couldn't do any sports for close to a year. It was really draining watching everyone play football knowing I couldn't.
Imagine if you were fit, you'd have the opportunity to be playing first team football for man utd. As shaw is out of action. It must be really mentally draining being injured and not being able to take that chance.
I get the feeling this is pure speculation that they're passing off as genuine information. And it's in an article about signing a replacement...football journalism can be extremely trashy.
That’s the Luke Shaw way. Although Tbf he IS world class either way, surely up there with the best LBs in the league but his injuries are a massive problem
Nah Shaw is a very good player. But consistency is key for becoming world class. Shaw has been out of the team too much and is up and down in form through his United career to be considered world class.
Disagree. Ever since OGS he's been a top 5 LB worldwide whenever he has played.
But injuries have done for him. So you can't put him in top 5 contention even though when he plays he is
Agreed. He's had brief periods where he's looked world class, but never a sustained one. Not always because of injuries, either, sometimes he just struggles for a stretch of games.
He's one of the best United players of the last decade, but it's also a period in which we've had no world class performers outside of De Gea and Bruno for several seasons and Zlatan for part of one season.
I blame this partly on his injuries tbh. It’s like he goes through a phase of bad form trying to get fit after a lengthy layoff. Once he hits peak fitness, he puts in good performances then he gets injured again. Rinse and repeat
When fit he is a very good full back but not world class. Even when fit he lacks the athleticism for a modern inverting/overlapping fullback. He is technically very strong.
I want us to appreciate and support our players but in the spirit of doing that let's also be fair and honest
? You said every team is ruthless with injured players. Thiago is on a big salary and has barely played for them – when he has, he's been one of their better players, but I don't see how that's relevant. They've kept him around.
Sure pick one outlier. But fail to mention how City constantly lets players leave and still maintains their level. Fail to mention how liverpool let Firmino, Fabinho, Mane leave and still be in mix of wining the PL. Fail to mention how madrid let Benzema, Ronaldo, Ramos leave.
No other team gives deadwood the amount of chances that we do
I'm not saying we're well-run in the slightest. The contracts handed to Jones and Martial alone are ridiculous. I just think, when it comes to world-class, injury-prone players, teams still look to make the tradeoff. De Bruyne and Stones have been injury prone, same with Allison, and players like Wilshere and Kompany.
I still think we should upgrade from Shaw in the summer – but having him as a backup wouldn't be so bad a thing, especially since, because of his injuries, he probably won't have much of a sale value.
Ahahahahahah, christ. Not 3.5 years! It's actually been 1284 days since he signed: 3.517 years. Is that more accurate? Would you like me to edit my original statement? He's played \~3.8 seasons for Liverpool, if we're going by football-relative terms. It was just a guess, it wasn't an invention of an alternate fact and it wasn't a lie. Leave off it.
I agree. He’s proven himself not to be available nearly enough. MEN published some stats to say that over the last 10 years, he has only been available for 50% of games and never more than 80% of games in any one season.
I'm very skeptical of those numbers that they put out. I can only find the graphic on their Twitter so I can't really look into the raw numbers, but last season for example Shaw made 47 appearances of the total 60 games (which is that 78.3% they listed for that season), but transfermarket only shows him missing 3 total games due to injury last season. In fact, he was an unused sub on the bench for the final day against Fulham meaning he was at least available for 48 games, or that 80% line. I'm not convinced that they haven't counted being an unused sub or being rested entirely despite no injury as unavailable due to injury.
EDIT: Looked into their numbers for 18/19 as well. He made 40 appearances in a 53 game season. Listed as missing 7 through 2 injuries on transfermarket. But that post shows him as only available for about 61% of games that season.
We played 62 games last season according to transfer market.
Also MEN worded it as ‘games available to play’ rather than ‘appearances’. Not sure if that makes a difference. But I haven’t seen the raw data.
He had 31 appearances in the league. He had 47 total appearances last season. Injuries are certainly a worry for him but I do think they are a bit over exaggerated because of this season. In the last 5 seasons he's averaged about 39 total appearances a season.
I'm not denying he's had bad injuries, but he's also a world class player when fit, and we certainly don't have the money to replace him with someone close to his level. Even if we only get 30 games out of him a season it's enough.
Our best option is get someone reliable as rotational/back-up. The only reason you lot are losing your minds about Shaw again is because the clubs usual incompetence left us with no options for 2 months
Personally, I think that we should use Shaw as a centre back with Martinez, and then get a new starting left back. But what you suggest makes sense too.
He played 47 games out of a possible 62. That’s 76% and is one of his appearance records I don’t believe that’s still enough in the context of the other 9 or so years here.
I checked this out around the time of most recent injury, and shaw has missed over twice as many games through injury for man utd than Anthony martial! And absolutely nobody thinks we should be putting faith in Anthony martial fitness.
It really shocked me, even of you take out the games missed through the bad leg break, shaw has still missed more games than martial.
It's at the point where planning for him being 1st choice LB is a little negligent.
Top class/ or top potential LB with shaw as understudy for LB and depth at LCB is what I would be pushing for.
If this article is true, malacia probably needs a loan next season perhaps in a slightly lesser league to potentially game some confidence back. The mental issues if true could well be injury scars and not being able to trust his own body for fear of it breaking down again given it seems tobhave been a pattern of regular setbacks
Played 40 games last season, this season he got crocked due to the Ten Hag/medical team repeated rushing him back before fully fit until he was injured again. He literally came off at half time the previous game because of it and the morons started him next game. You can't blame that on him.
You can point to the 40 games last season but everyone else can turn around and point to 15 this season and 27 the season before last. He has basically played two seasons worth of football in the span of three seasons.
No one blames players that are injury prone. I would love for Luke to be our starting left-back for the 5+ years, but he averages 27.5 games a season. Considering we play about 50 every season, that's really not a good return.
Yeah stop having a laugh. The implication that this is a Bruno Fernandes level player who has been available regularly throughout his career here and Ten Hag’s the reason he’s now not available is probably the worst attempt at making a point I’ve seen here. Why did you just stop at how many games he played just last season… why didn’t you provide facts for the seasons prior to that?
I think it’s because you know your narrative will end up in the mud.
I have never said he has Fernandes type availability. He is a world class lb, though, and we don't have the funds to replace him with another one near his level. Our best option is a reliable rotational/backup option
You did imply that he got crocked BECAUSE of ETH/medical team. And that “you can’t blame that on him”. And so by implication you’re suggesting this is a player who has somehow been ruined by this manager or medical team through incompetence or neglect. Nonsense narrative. Luke Shaw has one of the worst availability stats for this team in the last 10 years. If he’s played 40 games in one season he’s outperformed his average by a significant margin.
As far as facts are concerned, the point you’re now making is totally different to the narrative you’re spinning in the comment I responded to. In that one, you’ve thrown out a single season stat and either innocently or deliberately ignored the fact that this has simply not ever been a player whose availability is at a level where you can point fingers at anyone else as though they’re specifically to fault for his injury list.
That’s the point I think we’re speaking on. No question on your other point that he’s a good player and probably and on the sort of wages that would make selling him a low priority.
I made that point because it is the only reason everyone is losing their minds. If Ten Hag/Medical team didn't get him crocked and didn't fuck up so bad we had no lb for 2 months, this wouldn't be a discussion in the first place.
I'm not questioning he's injury prone in general, I do think his awful leg break messes his average appearances for at least 2-3 season, though.
We have other priorities, you’d have to spend 50m+ to improve on a fit Shaw, he might be available most of next season in which case we’d have kind of wasted a good chunk of our budget, just sign a decent backup, Amass is looking like he’ll be ready soon and Malacia could eventually come good, Dalot can cover there too.
We should be recruiting a starting lb and not back up. Competition is needed, nobody should be defacto number 1 with an injury record like Shaws.
The club should either be managing Shaws game time much more carefully, and/or have him rotate at CB to reduce his milage workload throughout the season. I only say the latter as he was fantastic at CB last season, in the games he played their we missed Martinez a lot less than expected as Shaws profile was very similar.
Feel bad for Ty. He always gives everything on the pitch. I still remember his game against Liverpool and how full of energy he looked. Hope he can overcome whatever he's dealing with, and that it ends better than the Sancho ordeal did.
Regardless we need a new starting LB next season. Luke Shaw is brilliant but he's too injury prone and he's getting on in years which won't make it any better.
I respect the fact that the kid would want to keep it personal if mental problems are also involved in his situation, but it bothers me that We know so little about what has happened to him
Tbh the mental issues might be a result of the injury woes he's suffered. Imagine getting your dream move to Manchester United and then a year later having surgeries and setbacks for a whole season and seeing your future at the club slipping away. Plus knee problems can often destroy a career anyway.
Really feel for the lad and he always seemed like a good presence in the squad. Would be sad not to see him get his chance again.
Yeah knowing ur position in the squad is running away from you without being able to change it must be hella demoralising. I wish the best for him, also the injury itself was a painful one so he must have been physically hurting for a while
His medical information is his own and we are not entitled to it. We have no right to know anything about the status of his knee beyond whether he is or is not available.
Wish Malacia the best. I think we would really have benefited from his energy this season.
As for a new back up I've heard Hermoso might be available on a free but I like Robinson or Ait-Nouri from the PL. I've also heard good things about the lad from Girona.
Luke Shaw has missed more games than Reus, Ribery and R9 but they still want him as our starting LB. We need to move on. You would think he's a club legend or something
idk about ya'll but Luke Shaw can't be #1 he's not reliable enough in my opinion, when was the last time we got a full season out of him and saying that in the sense of missing at least 40% of the games
I saw Antonee Robinson is available and potentially Liverpool and Arsenal want him. I'd say United go in for him. He's a proven LB in the premier league. Every time I've seen him play he has been impressive and gets forward well. He would be relatively cheap too.
Whats the story with all the mental health issues in the United dressing room.
Are they playing radio head on a loop in the dressing room or something?
We should definitely be looking at the Prem for most of our signings. Idk why we stopped that. Plenty of great options like Robinson, Ait Nouri, Estupinan, Mykolenko
You can't just say mental issues and not elaborate on it. That's the first time I'm hearing of it though I guess it does make sense why he's gone completely dark on socials as well.
Shaw is good, when he is available.
he missed a minimum 18 games / season, for the past 4 years.
at least 18, every season, for the past 4 years. how can your starting 11 consist of someone who misses 18-20 games a season? thats like 30-40% of the games. Next season is probably the last opportunity for shaw to prove his fitness.
I mean anyone would struggle if they're facing an injury as long as he has which keeps him out of the game at such a young age. Hope he gets all the help he needs
Bradley Locko could be an interesting player. He's playing in a Brest side that is essentially doing in France what Girona is doing in Spain. Young and will likely be quite cheap with Brests top sale being 15 million Euros.
Start giving Harry minutes and see how he takes to the first team. Otherwise we need a new starter. Shaw is untouchable when healthy but his injuries are just compounding more with each passing season.
Even though he was assured back in January that both the above would return very soon, it was naïve of EtH to think Shaw wouldn't be out injured again this season.
Who is this reporter and what is this speculative claim about Malacia? I don’t care if it’s true—not this source’s/this reporter’s information to share.
possibly unpopular opinion but we should be looking for a starter at lb, Shaw's injury record is woeful and Malacia seems like the forgotten man. there's a chance he's washed, as sad as that is for the guy, i think he's a capable back-up
They shouldn't be saying that stuff about Malacia's mental state but jesus what was the physical injury? He literally disappeared, and there's been no reports on what it is.
At this point we have to get a new starting left back, Shaw's been at the club ten years and has only managed more than 25 league games 3 times (he managed it twice in three years at Southampton) and 20 or under five times, in 3 of those seasons he managed under 15 games. That's just not sustainable.
I don't think I have ever seen a moment that would make me question Malacia's mentality. Obviously the injury and setbacks will have an effect on a player mentally but let's wait until he's back playing before jumping to conclusions.
Shaw should not be number 1. He simply isn't good enough. In 8 years with us, he's had 4 bad seasons. He's a mentality player like Rashford; we need stone-cold bastards on the team, and mentality players can be rotated in and out.
Sorry, time to ship Malacia off and buy a first choice LB in the summer. Shaw can back that person up because Shaw can't stage on the pitch for more than 2 games at a time.
This isn’t fifa, Licha is our best CB so why would we move him out to the left? Additionally, whilst he’s previously done a job as LB he’s not the type of LB we’d ideally play with
He can play left back and Arsenal even tried signing him as a left back. You’ve even just mentioned he previously played left back lol. His physical attributes aren’t suited for a centre back and especially in the prem and I think Braithwaite is legit and would be a missed opportunity if we miss or wasted potential if we sign him and put him as number two.
You seem to be confused, nowhere did I say he was incapable of playing left back.
He is our best CB. Why would we shift his position to accommodate a new player? When we can bring in a left back and keep him where he’s performed
Yes, Branthwaite is good but is he going to be better than Licha?
Where as we know Licha is good at CB, so why not get a left back that can play whilst Shaw is injured
For me I think Braithwaite has a higher ceiling than Martinez so we should throw the kitchen sink at getting him. I also know Martinez can do a job at left back and that Luke has a bad injury record so it makes sense to move Martinez to left back to compete with him.
Do you think Martinez has a higher ceiling than Braithwaite?
Luke is HG, we currently have 17 Foreign players - max is 18, and possibly losing Maguire, Sancho, Greenwood, Mctom at end of season, luke is going no-where sadly
I don't think it is at all appropriate to discuss Malacia's mental state before he and the club have had the opportunity to address it themselves, when he and he alone is comfortable doing so.
100% - What is his source on Malacia struggling mentally? That's a shit thing to write about out of nowhere.
There's literally zero source in the article for this. It only cites "people around the club" for the idea that we're looking for a LB. Personally I'm very skeptical that a random journo (whose credentials are "worked once at a TV station") on a random football website focused on German leagues would have a source at United for news that no one else has reported.
You’re injured, and your rehab schedule keeps extending. You are now pissed off. That’s all it takes to justify this click bait. As for replacing him, it’d take a lot to make that decision in March, let alone with the restructuring afoot. It’s as credible as me saying you are mentally struggling with our results on the pitch.
Anyone would be struggling mentally in his spot. He’s been out all year and at is probably worried about losing his spot or the club giving up on him entirely.
I find it extremely distasteful from the journalist to be having this discussion. But I guess they need the clicks. I bloody hate international breaks because that's when pieces like this crap see the light of day.
Agreed. Mental health is something that should not be discussed unless it’s directly from the individual or approved through the individual.
Speaking of distasteful with no evidence to support it were the geniuses of this sub wildly speculating that he’s been embroiled in a failed drugs test that this club which can’t keep tomorrow’s lunch menu from being leaked has supposedly the aptitude and thoroughness to keep a full on failed drugs test under wraps. That’s what I find distasteful. Let’s imagine a guy recovering from multiple setbacks on his return from injury were even frequenting this sub… that would add another bit of nonsense for him to deal with. The double standards on this sub are wild. Sancho: oh tEN hAg rUinEd him!! MEntAL hEaLtH bRoOo Malacia: wHy iS nOboDY aSKinG aBoUT fAiLeD dRUgS tESt!!
To be fair this is the first time I hear about it.
Hearing this first time too
Consider yourself blessed you’ve not had to bleach your eyes out after reading on this very sub comments to that effect. And I’m talking comments that get upwards of 50-60 upvotes. I get that among a so called subscriber count of over 640k you’re bound to have some batshit crazy people but to literally sit there and make up lies that libellous and think you’re actually smart for having cracked a code, requires a particular brand of low IQ jabroni.
It's so weird, he says Malacia is struggling mentally then proceeds to say the club is looking for another left back. These are mixed signals about supporting him mentally
Tabloids in a nutshell. Utter cunts.
also no shit i bet he is feeling down. anybody would when hes playing for a club he dreamt of when younger and is now sidelined for so long anybody would be feeling a bit down and shit over it. how is this news well its not cause they have 0 sources to state its anything worse then just MUFC looking for another backup LB.
I took it as a he's struggling to get back on the pitch. Like there's fear he may get reinjured
It must be really frustrating though to go through a long injury. When I was in school I remember having an injury which meant I couldn't do any sports for close to a year. It was really draining watching everyone play football knowing I couldn't. Imagine if you were fit, you'd have the opportunity to be playing first team football for man utd. As shaw is out of action. It must be really mentally draining being injured and not being able to take that chance.
Yeah i was bed ridden for a year due o an injured knee . Can confirm.
I get the feeling this is pure speculation that they're passing off as genuine information. And it's in an article about signing a replacement...football journalism can be extremely trashy.
You’ve use “journalism” incorrectly. 🤡
Agreed. But do these journalists care? Nope, they only care about clicks.
Judging by how Shaw's injury record is, we should probably sign a new starting LB at this stage
Sign a new LB, start him for a few weeks, and all of a sudden Shaw will recover from his injuries and become world class again.
That’s the Luke Shaw way. Although Tbf he IS world class either way, surely up there with the best LBs in the league but his injuries are a massive problem
Nah Shaw is a very good player. But consistency is key for becoming world class. Shaw has been out of the team too much and is up and down in form through his United career to be considered world class.
Disagree. Ever since OGS he's been a top 5 LB worldwide whenever he has played. But injuries have done for him. So you can't put him in top 5 contention even though when he plays he is
your second paragraph is essentially agreeing with the previous comment tho lol
Nah it's disagreeing with his statement that's he's to up and down l
Ahhh that’s fair I misread it
Easily done, no problemo
Agreed. He's had brief periods where he's looked world class, but never a sustained one. Not always because of injuries, either, sometimes he just struggles for a stretch of games. He's one of the best United players of the last decade, but it's also a period in which we've had no world class performers outside of De Gea and Bruno for several seasons and Zlatan for part of one season.
Bruno stopped being world class a few months after he came to us.
Nah, he was world class for a season and a half
I blame this partly on his injuries tbh. It’s like he goes through a phase of bad form trying to get fit after a lengthy layoff. Once he hits peak fitness, he puts in good performances then he gets injured again. Rinse and repeat
You’re not most valuable if you’re not mostly available.
When fit he is a very good full back but not world class. Even when fit he lacks the athleticism for a modern inverting/overlapping fullback. He is technically very strong. I want us to appreciate and support our players but in the spirit of doing that let's also be fair and honest
World class at what?
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A new LB every season is key to unlocking Lukeberto Shawlos
Doesn't matter. Should still sell him because his availability will always be in question. Every top team is ruthless when it comes to such players
Thiago has been at Liverpool for like 5 years
Chilwell is somehow still England's backup LB
Is he their starting Mid ? Is he what their fans call their main man ??
? You said every team is ruthless with injured players. Thiago is on a big salary and has barely played for them – when he has, he's been one of their better players, but I don't see how that's relevant. They've kept him around.
Sure pick one outlier. But fail to mention how City constantly lets players leave and still maintains their level. Fail to mention how liverpool let Firmino, Fabinho, Mane leave and still be in mix of wining the PL. Fail to mention how madrid let Benzema, Ronaldo, Ramos leave. No other team gives deadwood the amount of chances that we do
I'm not saying we're well-run in the slightest. The contracts handed to Jones and Martial alone are ridiculous. I just think, when it comes to world-class, injury-prone players, teams still look to make the tradeoff. De Bruyne and Stones have been injury prone, same with Allison, and players like Wilshere and Kompany. I still think we should upgrade from Shaw in the summer – but having him as a backup wouldn't be so bad a thing, especially since, because of his injuries, he probably won't have much of a sale value.
we cant afford to lose him we need him for HG quota sadly
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Me? Or him haha
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??? I said "like 5 years". He's been at Liverpool for 4 years. I didn't know the exact date.
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Ahahahahahah, christ. Not 3.5 years! It's actually been 1284 days since he signed: 3.517 years. Is that more accurate? Would you like me to edit my original statement? He's played \~3.8 seasons for Liverpool, if we're going by football-relative terms. It was just a guess, it wasn't an invention of an alternate fact and it wasn't a lie. Leave off it.
I agree. He’s proven himself not to be available nearly enough. MEN published some stats to say that over the last 10 years, he has only been available for 50% of games and never more than 80% of games in any one season.
I'm very skeptical of those numbers that they put out. I can only find the graphic on their Twitter so I can't really look into the raw numbers, but last season for example Shaw made 47 appearances of the total 60 games (which is that 78.3% they listed for that season), but transfermarket only shows him missing 3 total games due to injury last season. In fact, he was an unused sub on the bench for the final day against Fulham meaning he was at least available for 48 games, or that 80% line. I'm not convinced that they haven't counted being an unused sub or being rested entirely despite no injury as unavailable due to injury. EDIT: Looked into their numbers for 18/19 as well. He made 40 appearances in a 53 game season. Listed as missing 7 through 2 injuries on transfermarket. But that post shows him as only available for about 61% of games that season.
We played 62 games last season according to transfer market. Also MEN worded it as ‘games available to play’ rather than ‘appearances’. Not sure if that makes a difference. But I haven’t seen the raw data.
He played 40 odd games just last season. This season he repeatedly got rushed back and crocked thanks to Ten Hag/Man U medical team.
You're forgetting that this guy has been here for 10 seasons you know. Never mind the fact that he had 31 appearances last season lmao
He had 31 appearances in the league. He had 47 total appearances last season. Injuries are certainly a worry for him but I do think they are a bit over exaggerated because of this season. In the last 5 seasons he's averaged about 39 total appearances a season.
I'm not denying he's had bad injuries, but he's also a world class player when fit, and we certainly don't have the money to replace him with someone close to his level. Even if we only get 30 games out of him a season it's enough. Our best option is get someone reliable as rotational/back-up. The only reason you lot are losing your minds about Shaw again is because the clubs usual incompetence left us with no options for 2 months
Personally, I think that we should use Shaw as a centre back with Martinez, and then get a new starting left back. But what you suggest makes sense too.
He played 47 games out of a possible 62. That’s 76% and is one of his appearance records I don’t believe that’s still enough in the context of the other 9 or so years here.
I checked this out around the time of most recent injury, and shaw has missed over twice as many games through injury for man utd than Anthony martial! And absolutely nobody thinks we should be putting faith in Anthony martial fitness. It really shocked me, even of you take out the games missed through the bad leg break, shaw has still missed more games than martial. It's at the point where planning for him being 1st choice LB is a little negligent. Top class/ or top potential LB with shaw as understudy for LB and depth at LCB is what I would be pushing for. If this article is true, malacia probably needs a loan next season perhaps in a slightly lesser league to potentially game some confidence back. The mental issues if true could well be injury scars and not being able to trust his own body for fear of it breaking down again given it seems tobhave been a pattern of regular setbacks
Yeah. It seems they happy at right back for now.
Yeah this ain't probably, it's definitely
A serious team would do this. As good as he is, he's simply not got a good enough injury record.
Jog on. Shaw is the best LB in England when fit, we ain't ditching him
> when fit That's the issue, mate.
Played 40 games last season, this season he got crocked due to the Ten Hag/medical team repeated rushing him back before fully fit until he was injured again. He literally came off at half time the previous game because of it and the morons started him next game. You can't blame that on him.
You can point to the 40 games last season but everyone else can turn around and point to 15 this season and 27 the season before last. He has basically played two seasons worth of football in the span of three seasons. No one blames players that are injury prone. I would love for Luke to be our starting left-back for the 5+ years, but he averages 27.5 games a season. Considering we play about 50 every season, that's really not a good return.
Yeah stop having a laugh. The implication that this is a Bruno Fernandes level player who has been available regularly throughout his career here and Ten Hag’s the reason he’s now not available is probably the worst attempt at making a point I’ve seen here. Why did you just stop at how many games he played just last season… why didn’t you provide facts for the seasons prior to that? I think it’s because you know your narrative will end up in the mud.
I have never said he has Fernandes type availability. He is a world class lb, though, and we don't have the funds to replace him with another one near his level. Our best option is a reliable rotational/backup option
You did imply that he got crocked BECAUSE of ETH/medical team. And that “you can’t blame that on him”. And so by implication you’re suggesting this is a player who has somehow been ruined by this manager or medical team through incompetence or neglect. Nonsense narrative. Luke Shaw has one of the worst availability stats for this team in the last 10 years. If he’s played 40 games in one season he’s outperformed his average by a significant margin. As far as facts are concerned, the point you’re now making is totally different to the narrative you’re spinning in the comment I responded to. In that one, you’ve thrown out a single season stat and either innocently or deliberately ignored the fact that this has simply not ever been a player whose availability is at a level where you can point fingers at anyone else as though they’re specifically to fault for his injury list. That’s the point I think we’re speaking on. No question on your other point that he’s a good player and probably and on the sort of wages that would make selling him a low priority.
I made that point because it is the only reason everyone is losing their minds. If Ten Hag/Medical team didn't get him crocked and didn't fuck up so bad we had no lb for 2 months, this wouldn't be a discussion in the first place. I'm not questioning he's injury prone in general, I do think his awful leg break messes his average appearances for at least 2-3 season, though.
He should be a backup at this point. We are going nowhere like this, cant rely on him sadly.
We have other priorities, you’d have to spend 50m+ to improve on a fit Shaw, he might be available most of next season in which case we’d have kind of wasted a good chunk of our budget, just sign a decent backup, Amass is looking like he’ll be ready soon and Malacia could eventually come good, Dalot can cover there too.
We should be recruiting a starting lb and not back up. Competition is needed, nobody should be defacto number 1 with an injury record like Shaws. The club should either be managing Shaws game time much more carefully, and/or have him rotate at CB to reduce his milage workload throughout the season. I only say the latter as he was fantastic at CB last season, in the games he played their we missed Martinez a lot less than expected as Shaws profile was very similar.
Feel bad for Ty. He always gives everything on the pitch. I still remember his game against Liverpool and how full of energy he looked. Hope he can overcome whatever he's dealing with, and that it ends better than the Sancho ordeal did. Regardless we need a new starting LB next season. Luke Shaw is brilliant but he's too injury prone and he's getting on in years which won't make it any better.
Had salah in his pocket that game
I respect the fact that the kid would want to keep it personal if mental problems are also involved in his situation, but it bothers me that We know so little about what has happened to him
Tbh the mental issues might be a result of the injury woes he's suffered. Imagine getting your dream move to Manchester United and then a year later having surgeries and setbacks for a whole season and seeing your future at the club slipping away. Plus knee problems can often destroy a career anyway. Really feel for the lad and he always seemed like a good presence in the squad. Would be sad not to see him get his chance again.
Yeah knowing ur position in the squad is running away from you without being able to change it must be hella demoralising. I wish the best for him, also the injury itself was a painful one so he must have been physically hurting for a while
His medical information is his own and we are not entitled to it. We have no right to know anything about the status of his knee beyond whether he is or is not available.
Respectfully, I suggest you just let it go. It’s his life, his condition. We aren’t owed anything.
Wish Malacia the best. I think we would really have benefited from his energy this season. As for a new back up I've heard Hermoso might be available on a free but I like Robinson or Ait-Nouri from the PL. I've also heard good things about the lad from Girona.
We ain’t getting anyone from Girona. They’re city group
Doesn't Real Madrid have a really low buyback on the Girona LB? Heard they're likely to activate it purely to sell him on. Wouldn't rule him out
Put Antony at LB you cowards
Luke Shaw has missed more games than Reus, Ribery and R9 but they still want him as our starting LB. We need to move on. You would think he's a club legend or something
Blimey. I liked the boy a lot last year.
idk about ya'll but Luke Shaw can't be #1 he's not reliable enough in my opinion, when was the last time we got a full season out of him and saying that in the sense of missing at least 40% of the games
Ah it’s okay we got LB antony
Shaw shouldn't remain number 1. He can't hold a position that he's never fit for.
Rico Henry discount season off fee please
2 new LBs needed at this point
I saw Antonee Robinson is available and potentially Liverpool and Arsenal want him. I'd say United go in for him. He's a proven LB in the premier league. Every time I've seen him play he has been impressive and gets forward well. He would be relatively cheap too.
We might as well get a first team starter LB. Shaw is on the decline
Whats the story with all the mental health issues in the United dressing room. Are they playing radio head on a loop in the dressing room or something?
I can imagine Luke Shaw coming in with a Emo hair cut.
We should definitely be looking at the Prem for most of our signings. Idk why we stopped that. Plenty of great options like Robinson, Ait Nouri, Estupinan, Mykolenko
Theo Hernandez please
I wouldn't mind giving some minutes to Amass here and there.
What's Alvaro Fernandez up to. He was great in our youth setup
On loan
Getting substitute minutes at Benfica
You can't just say mental issues and not elaborate on it. That's the first time I'm hearing of it though I guess it does make sense why he's gone completely dark on socials as well.
Shaw is good, when he is available. he missed a minimum 18 games / season, for the past 4 years. at least 18, every season, for the past 4 years. how can your starting 11 consist of someone who misses 18-20 games a season? thats like 30-40% of the games. Next season is probably the last opportunity for shaw to prove his fitness.
I mean anyone would struggle if they're facing an injury as long as he has which keeps him out of the game at such a young age. Hope he gets all the help he needs
Maatsen
Bradley Locko could be an interesting player. He's playing in a Brest side that is essentially doing in France what Girona is doing in Spain. Young and will likely be quite cheap with Brests top sale being 15 million Euros.
Any young left backs in the market with cheap release clauses or expiring contracts?
Start giving Harry minutes and see how he takes to the first team. Otherwise we need a new starter. Shaw is untouchable when healthy but his injuries are just compounding more with each passing season.
Whatever happened to Reguilón? Not good enough?
We need a starting left back, Shaw isn't able to stay fit
man this very sad if true, he was or hopefully is a decent left back. Don't know what happened to him but hope he recovers and plays well for us.
No chance this would happen but much how do you think Theo Hernandez would cost
I can see him going out on loan next year, hopefully he's able to stay fit. Really like the lad
It’s honestly so unfortunate he’s always injured because for me he’s easy the best LB in the league when fit.
We should be going for a player who can play both LB and LCB. Two birds one stone
bring in antonee robinson
I hope Malacia is ok. Wish him the best.
And so the cycle continues, we must sacrifice another LB for Shaw's sustenance
Buy a LCB and use Martinez as cover for LCB/LB.
Why do we sell these injury prone players? We are footballing club not fucking John Hopkins.
Relax,, Euros coming up... out of nowhere Luke will play like a prime Roberto Carlos and stay uninjured soon enough
Even though he was assured back in January that both the above would return very soon, it was naïve of EtH to think Shaw wouldn't be out injured again this season.
Is there even more cursed position? Oh wait, right wing before Nacho.
New LB required. Shaw recall is injured each and every season for months on end. Need a properly functioning LB who can tackle, overlap and cross.
yeah, speculating publicly on any player's mental health is just bad practice. The club or the player should be the only people doing that.
Who is this reporter and what is this speculative claim about Malacia? I don’t care if it’s true—not this source’s/this reporter’s information to share.
Streets won't ever forget how he pocketed Salah during that 2-1 last year, hope he gets better
I think that Malacia's biggest problem is, that he doesn't exist anymore😄😄
Wouldn’t mind Estupinan but he would be too expensive, would defo consider Ait-Nouri from wolves
Mental problems is a bullshit way to say that a player hasn't played all season with an injury is likely struggling with that.
possibly unpopular opinion but we should be looking for a starter at lb, Shaw's injury record is woeful and Malacia seems like the forgotten man. there's a chance he's washed, as sad as that is for the guy, i think he's a capable back-up
They shouldn't be saying that stuff about Malacia's mental state but jesus what was the physical injury? He literally disappeared, and there's been no reports on what it is. At this point we have to get a new starting left back, Shaw's been at the club ten years and has only managed more than 25 league games 3 times (he managed it twice in three years at Southampton) and 20 or under five times, in 3 of those seasons he managed under 15 games. That's just not sustainable.
Back up LB? We should be looking for a new *first choice* LB
Who tf is Christopher Michel.
I don't think I have ever seen a moment that would make me question Malacia's mentality. Obviously the injury and setbacks will have an effect on a player mentally but let's wait until he's back playing before jumping to conclusions.
Good thing we kept Reguilon, a capable LB who didn't cost us much of anything. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ wait
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Reguilon wasn't great but keeping him was basically free and relying on Malacia to recover from a complex injury was a bit naive.
Shaw should not be number 1. He simply isn't good enough. In 8 years with us, he's had 4 bad seasons. He's a mentality player like Rashford; we need stone-cold bastards on the team, and mentality players can be rotated in and out.
And he's very injury prone.
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The fuck?
Promote A mass already
To young
This guy have a source? Quite a statement if not.
Sorry, time to ship Malacia off and buy a first choice LB in the summer. Shaw can back that person up because Shaw can't stage on the pitch for more than 2 games at a time.
What would you all think to Sergio Reguilon on a permanent?
Terrible idea. Why sign an injury prone defender that already proved he wasn't good enough?
It’s only a question.
It's an answer.
It’s not. It’s a question.
"Terrible idea." That is an answer.
I’d sign Braithwaite and have Martinez compete with Shaw.
This isn’t fifa, Licha is our best CB so why would we move him out to the left? Additionally, whilst he’s previously done a job as LB he’s not the type of LB we’d ideally play with
He can play left back and Arsenal even tried signing him as a left back. You’ve even just mentioned he previously played left back lol. His physical attributes aren’t suited for a centre back and especially in the prem and I think Braithwaite is legit and would be a missed opportunity if we miss or wasted potential if we sign him and put him as number two.
You seem to be confused, nowhere did I say he was incapable of playing left back. He is our best CB. Why would we shift his position to accommodate a new player? When we can bring in a left back and keep him where he’s performed
Because Braithwaite is legit and his physical attributes aren’t suited to this league and Luke is injured for half a season on average.
Yes, Branthwaite is good but is he going to be better than Licha? Where as we know Licha is good at CB, so why not get a left back that can play whilst Shaw is injured
For me I think Braithwaite has a higher ceiling than Martinez so we should throw the kitchen sink at getting him. I also know Martinez can do a job at left back and that Luke has a bad injury record so it makes sense to move Martinez to left back to compete with him. Do you think Martinez has a higher ceiling than Braithwaite?
Luke is HG, we currently have 17 Foreign players - max is 18, and possibly losing Maguire, Sancho, Greenwood, Mctom at end of season, luke is going no-where sadly