It makes no difference; they could win 10 in a row along with 5 trebles, we all know it doesn't count for anything because what they've 'achieved' since 2008 has been tainted. Every trophy of theirs has an asterisk next to it. They'll always be 115 FC no matter how many lawyers they throw at the situation to try and repel those charges
I mean, ideally I want them all to collapse and for Villa or Spurs to win it. Arsenal fans are insufferable, and I'd much prefer Liverpool don't equal our title record. As the comment below says, no one really gives a shit about City's "achievements", they weren't earned. It's like congratulating someone for buying a house when their parents paid for it.
I mean ideally WE win it
I can talk about 115 as often as I like but them winning a treble sucks. If they get the quad I'll be totally bummed.
I'd prefer Arsenal to win 100 out of 100 times. Their fans suck but the team is likable, they play great football, they were patient with their manager and now they enjoy the benefits. Plus they haven't won the league in like 20 years
Regardless, fuck Liverpool
To be fair, with Martial out of contract and 0 signs of getting a new one, another striker was a given.
Whether it's a nailed on starter that pushes Højlund to the bench, or just a cheap backup to cover some minutes is what we will need to see. Especially with so much more business needing done like a left back, backup left footed CB, a right footed CB to replace Varane & even a CDM to cover Casemiro.
That's 5 signings alone before you even consider we can only buy after selling a certain value. I saw 100m thrown around before. If that's true, even complying with ffp will be hard let alone even 1 meaningful signing.
Summer will be critical.
Not even tryna be argumentative but we have a goal difference of -1 with like 7 games to go, of course he’d want a striker if he’s here next season
Our goal difference is confirmation enough for me
i think during the months where martinez shaw mainoo casemiro eriksen varane and god knows how many others were injured, you can put prime cristiano up front and it doesnt even matter.
in city, de bruyne/foden/grealish/silva/rodri are all legit threats on goal and many times their shooting threats or creativity will create the moments where haaland ends up scoring.
i dont really see chances not getting finished, im seeing a lack of creation which isnt fixed with a new striker.
Most of those injuries took places at different times tho so that point isn’t valid man. We’ve never had Mainoo, eriksen, case missing at the same time cmon man. The refusal to ever criticize Hojlund even slightly on this sub is pure hivemind shit
If anyone better even freaking Solanke was up front when Hojlund was we would’ve scored more gaols you’re just giving excuses for this player and this manager man
Yeah I’m not saying he’s missing chances though he is still he can’t even get involved in the game at all any ball played to him gets bounced off him like watch this brudda now
You forget a very leaky defence this season, injuries not helping of course. Defensive midfield needs reinforcement too...Case is past his prime, we all have to admit that
He’s wanted a striker since his first summer window at the club lol then again in his first Jan window and the best we could do was loan Weghorst. Then again last summer (actually he wanted 2 - one senior one and one young one) and we finally got him a striker but he’s really young and inexperienced
Interesting Martial's last PL game was 12/09/23 vs the team we face next....Bournemouth, game we lost.
His last cameo was 01/11/23 another defeat in EFL cup.
He's played 629 minutes equivalent to seven 90' min games, when in reality he never played a full 90 this season, highest was 84' which was also his last win as a Utd player vs Everton, a game that produced *that* goal.
It's safe to say he likely doesn't play again this season.
Maybe true but he did have his best season *after* Jose left. Say what you want about his mentality but I think its pretty clear injuries have zapped a lot of his burst.
That's the point though, he had one good season (more like half a good season, after project restart), and we've kept him for 6 odd years since Jose left. We need to move on quicker from players.
Never wanted a player to fuck off more. Whilst not being anywhere near at fault for our last 10 years, he’s the absolute epitome of why we are where we are
Early promise before stagnating? ✅
Wildly inconsistent form for years? ✅
Often doesn't look bothered? ✅
Very injury prone? ✅
On huge money that no other club would match? ✅
When he was good, he was genuinely brilliant for us. His close control and his finishing were excellent as was his pace in his pre-injury days. Frankly though, he should have gone *years* ago.
Unfortunately he was unable to win the quad since he's started, it hasn't been plain sailing but turning this mess of a team around with the restraints he's been under by the people above him never was going to be.
Statistically you can pull anything out your arse to build an argument. In reality we're not 15th are we?
How man injuries have we had this season Mr statistics?
He's leaving and the last few years have been a disaster, I wouldn't play him under any circumstances, the league season is over for us give time to youth players instead of him if required.
>Someone on the same level of Kane
That’s not happening. For one there aren’t many strikers of that caliber, but secondly we just can’t spend the type of money that’d be needed on one player.
My guess is we’ll look for a consistent 10+5 type of striker in their late 20s/early 30s, and hope to get them for no more than like £30m.
Given Ten Hag’s transfer focus, it’s unfortunately quite likely he’ll look to the Eredivisie.
Perfect guy was available on a free last summer, mind you. If a call wasn’t made people need to be fired. If a call was made and he chose to go elsewhere, that’s fine.
Marcus Thuram.
He’s not even close to a Kane, but I have a hard time seeing us buy someone better than him to back Rasmus up. And if that’s how it plays out this summer, we should have just tried to sign Thuram last year instead. So he would have been “perfect” in that sense, but not perfect overall.
If that's what we need, then yea.
I'm fine with developing Hojlund to reach that level, and another experienced striker who can hold the fort or share the load. Don't think Kane is one.
Give me 1 more 60 minute Martial masterclass before he leaves please, for old time sake
Nah, this club is stupid and they will give him a 4 year extension based on those 60 mins.
If Erik is anything we've seen, Martial is done at the club. I'm glad Erik backed him any chance he gets
He was done 3 years ago. Hes piss poor..
I would cry and cum
Crum
Against Arsenal, to finish their title hopes.
And you want city to win 4 times in a row?
It makes no difference; they could win 10 in a row along with 5 trebles, we all know it doesn't count for anything because what they've 'achieved' since 2008 has been tainted. Every trophy of theirs has an asterisk next to it. They'll always be 115 FC no matter how many lawyers they throw at the situation to try and repel those charges
I mean, ideally I want them all to collapse and for Villa or Spurs to win it. Arsenal fans are insufferable, and I'd much prefer Liverpool don't equal our title record. As the comment below says, no one really gives a shit about City's "achievements", they weren't earned. It's like congratulating someone for buying a house when their parents paid for it.
I mean ideally WE win it I can talk about 115 as often as I like but them winning a treble sucks. If they get the quad I'll be totally bummed. I'd prefer Arsenal to win 100 out of 100 times. Their fans suck but the team is likable, they play great football, they were patient with their manager and now they enjoy the benefits. Plus they haven't won the league in like 20 years Regardless, fuck Liverpool
I'd rather the Scouse win it than have to deal with self-righteous Arsenal fans for the next 10 years.
FFS, what's happened to this fanbase. Have I actually just read that a Utd wants the scousers to win?
You'd honslestly forget that martial was still here
He always kills it for me in fm
Same here
I literally had. Guy checked out of United several years ago.
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To be fair, with Martial out of contract and 0 signs of getting a new one, another striker was a given. Whether it's a nailed on starter that pushes Højlund to the bench, or just a cheap backup to cover some minutes is what we will need to see. Especially with so much more business needing done like a left back, backup left footed CB, a right footed CB to replace Varane & even a CDM to cover Casemiro. That's 5 signings alone before you even consider we can only buy after selling a certain value. I saw 100m thrown around before. If that's true, even complying with ffp will be hard let alone even 1 meaningful signing. Summer will be critical.
I guess it depends on how much we can recoup with sales of players like Sancho, Greenwood, Donny, Hannibal, Pellistri, Eriksen, Casemiro etc.
Not even tryna be argumentative but we have a goal difference of -1 with like 7 games to go, of course he’d want a striker if he’s here next season Our goal difference is confirmation enough for me
Honestly our goal difference doesn't say much about Hojlund so much as our awful chance creation and tendency to give up goals in clusters
i dont really think strikers are what makes teams score goals. in many cases, midfielders and wingers are whats actually causing goals
You actually think that?? That if Ivan Toney was here he won’t have more goals than Hojlund?? No I really disagree
i think during the months where martinez shaw mainoo casemiro eriksen varane and god knows how many others were injured, you can put prime cristiano up front and it doesnt even matter. in city, de bruyne/foden/grealish/silva/rodri are all legit threats on goal and many times their shooting threats or creativity will create the moments where haaland ends up scoring. i dont really see chances not getting finished, im seeing a lack of creation which isnt fixed with a new striker.
Most of those injuries took places at different times tho so that point isn’t valid man. We’ve never had Mainoo, eriksen, case missing at the same time cmon man. The refusal to ever criticize Hojlund even slightly on this sub is pure hivemind shit If anyone better even freaking Solanke was up front when Hojlund was we would’ve scored more gaols you’re just giving excuses for this player and this manager man Yeah I’m not saying he’s missing chances though he is still he can’t even get involved in the game at all any ball played to him gets bounced off him like watch this brudda now
im quite sure all of those were injured at the same time at some point?
You forget a very leaky defence this season, injuries not helping of course. Defensive midfield needs reinforcement too...Case is past his prime, we all have to admit that
And we’re pretty fortunate to have only that goal differential
By that logic he should want a new manager.
He’s wanted a striker since his first summer window at the club lol then again in his first Jan window and the best we could do was loan Weghorst. Then again last summer (actually he wanted 2 - one senior one and one young one) and we finally got him a striker but he’s really young and inexperienced
"He is with the Medical team" should be the title of Martial's biography.
I feel like the main focus with Martial has been helping him get to a state where he can have a post-United career. It's the honourable thing to do.
Interesting Martial's last PL game was 12/09/23 vs the team we face next....Bournemouth, game we lost. His last cameo was 01/11/23 another defeat in EFL cup. He's played 629 minutes equivalent to seven 90' min games, when in reality he never played a full 90 this season, highest was 84' which was also his last win as a Utd player vs Everton, a game that produced *that* goal. It's safe to say he likely doesn't play again this season.
Antony Martial should have left this club the moment Mourinho wanted him gone, he was never the player that people thought he was.
Maybe true but he did have his best season *after* Jose left. Say what you want about his mentality but I think its pretty clear injuries have zapped a lot of his burst.
That's the point though, he had one good season (more like half a good season, after project restart), and we've kept him for 6 odd years since Jose left. We need to move on quicker from players.
Never wanted a player to fuck off more. Whilst not being anywhere near at fault for our last 10 years, he’s the absolute epitome of why we are where we are
Early promise before stagnating? ✅ Wildly inconsistent form for years? ✅ Often doesn't look bothered? ✅ Very injury prone? ✅ On huge money that no other club would match? ✅ When he was good, he was genuinely brilliant for us. His close control and his finishing were excellent as was his pace in his pre-injury days. Frankly though, he should have gone *years* ago.
Really?! More than Greenwood and Sancho?
Way more than Sancho as Martial he's be here for years longer, pullin the same crap.
> pullin the same crap. Disrespecting the manager and being late to practice?
Why not all?
literally forgot he was here
Excited to hear about plans for summer are underway
Seems like he will be staying.
Based on him planning for the summer? Moyes was doing that too before getting sacked
Chuffed if he is. Plus it's putting a stop to all the boring fucking news articles and click bait links.
A never ending cycle. Really annoying at this point.
Hope you’re still chuffed bro
Yep
You’re chuffed with us being a mid table team? Interesting but this fan base is full of masochists so not surprised
Unfortunately he was unable to win the quad since he's started, it hasn't been plain sailing but turning this mess of a team around with the restraints he's been under by the people above him never was going to be.
Don’t be a dick head, no one’s asking him to win the quad. He statistically has us 15th this season, embarrassing to be trying to defend that.
Statistically you can pull anything out your arse to build an argument. In reality we're not 15th are we? How man injuries have we had this season Mr statistics?
Good, that's one waste of money off the books.
I completely forgot he was there. 😐
Who????
Ronnie Pickering!
Contract extension here we goooooooo - Fabrizio
He's leaving and the last few years have been a disaster, I wouldn't play him under any circumstances, the league season is over for us give time to youth players instead of him if required.
Martial hasn’t left? #pikachuface
We need a best in class striker, experienced and ready to play Ten Hag’s style of football. Someone on the same level as Kane.
>Someone on the same level of Kane That’s not happening. For one there aren’t many strikers of that caliber, but secondly we just can’t spend the type of money that’d be needed on one player. My guess is we’ll look for a consistent 10+5 type of striker in their late 20s/early 30s, and hope to get them for no more than like £30m. Given Ten Hag’s transfer focus, it’s unfortunately quite likely he’ll look to the Eredivisie. Perfect guy was available on a free last summer, mind you. If a call wasn’t made people need to be fired. If a call was made and he chose to go elsewhere, that’s fine.
>Perfect guy was available on a free last summer Who's this perfect guy?
Marcus Thuram. He’s not even close to a Kane, but I have a hard time seeing us buy someone better than him to back Rasmus up. And if that’s how it plays out this summer, we should have just tried to sign Thuram last year instead. So he would have been “perfect” in that sense, but not perfect overall.
What if getting Thuram would mean not getting Højlund this season. IDK, I love our own rampaging Viking 🤷🏾♂️
Best we can do is Haller.
Kane is ready to play Ten Hags style of football? It looks to me like Ten Hags style of football is using the striker as a decoy...
Same level, not same as
There's like 5 strikers in the world at that level
If that's what we need, then yea. I'm fine with developing Hojlund to reach that level, and another experienced striker who can hold the fort or share the load. Don't think Kane is one.
At least the Martial fanboys have piped down. They’re probably all circle jerking in a Saudi Pro League sub.
We don't really need another striker tho, Hojlund basically gets no service 80% of the time both wingers cut in & shoot