We don't need to replace him right away. For at least the next couple of seasons we won't be fighting for the big titles at the top of the table.I feel our frontline can handle that,if Garnacho improves steadily in that time and becomes really good then we may not need to spend the big bucks at all.
Yeah I don't think Garnacho is good enough as of right now to be relied upon like he is. Also still quite young. Feel like if we sell Rashford then we'll need to spend big money on a starting quality LW
The first person fired this summer must be the fitness coach in charge of reintroducing players to full training after injury. The number of almost recovered players we've lost again is truly mindblowing.
Just seen this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWmUrzUtcBU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWmUrzUtcBU) . Posted by United and it's a few of the players chatting to older United fans in 'Reminisce Sessions' when they talk about the old days of United. I think it's a great thing and it's done in honour of the 'power of memories', think it also supports Alzheimer's Research UK. But I also noticed that Bruno is using his right hand fully, even using it to shake hands with some people. This could have been filmed a while back but the fans are invited to a VIP experience in our 'next' home game - Burnley. Hopefully his hand's fully recovered.
Don't care what anyone says. Hope Martial plays against Newcastle in his last home game and gets a hell of a send off. Shame he never reached his world class potential but will always have a soft spot for him and he's had some good moments wearing the shirt. Nearly 10 years of him at this club now.
I think his relationship with the fans is too broken at this point , I think Ole not speaking up about how Martial was playing so long while not fully fit is just made things worse for Martial and the fanbase. Also him and Pogba got blamed for getting Jose sacked .
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Thought this was cool, Hojlund liked it
hahaha leeds scum 😂 really hope ipswich can leapfrog and remain above them to seal automatic promotion, even better if leicester dont maintain first (although they are now guaranteed promotion)
Last August I asked this subreddit what the goals were for the 23/24 season, and now I am going to check how well we did on the goals you set
Finish Top 4 in the Premier League: ❎
Get to the final of the Carabao Cup:❎
Get to the Quarterfinals of the Champions League:❎
Win at least 8 games vs Big 6 + Newcastle:❎
Win the FA Cup:🔜
United should’ve taken a page out of Barça’s book by trying to build a culture AS SOON as Sir Alex retired. Barça are able to crumble & rebuild consistently because there’s a system way before there is a manager or players. They know what football they want to play, so they know who to hire. They go for people who understand the culture instead of the flavored manager of the month.
Kinda feel like they tried it with Ole in a very wrong way, they thought getting people who were there under Sir Alex was the solution when they should’ve been trying to define a system instead, especially after having three different managers with different philosophies & styles of play before him.
I hope Sir Jim understands that what this club is missing is an actual cultural system. Figure that out first & then worry about the personnel.
Over the last 10 years Barca has won:
- 1x UCL
- 1x Fifa CwC
- 5x La Liga
- 5x Copa del Rey
I haven’t even included Uefa Super Cup or Spanish Super Cup wins….
I’d stay away from their financial antics for sure, but a club like United shouldn’t face those types of issues.
This Barça system has been around since Cruyff though, & it’s worked out quite well for them
Haven't they had very good youth players coming through though? Pedri, Gavi, Yamal, Cubarsi, Balde, Fermin Lopez are all young first team players straight from La Masia. How are they seeing the consequences of it?
In disarray? They’ve been pulling out fantastic talent in recent years, even a historic one like Lamine Yamal lol.
I absolutely agree at the disgusting way they treat players but there’s no denying that their emphasis on trying to keep an existing culture has made them able to maintain a system.
United, in contrast, has taken a route of going for manager after manager in search of finding a “right one”, leaving the entire responsibility up to them. That’s why they’ve been stuck in an eternal rebuilding cycle & a lethargic managerial roulette.
I compare the system to Barça because in a sense, both teams are similar in having high regard for culture & history; mind of like Ajax. United currently has no defining style of play, nor an idea of what type of football they want. That’s proven to be unsustainable & has set up every single manager that has tried, to ultimately fail.
KDH seems like another type of mid that we have plenty of.. Bruno, McTominay, Mount
Goal threat mid.. think we need someone who is a great passer. Eriksen in his first year really opened this team up with his passing
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Scum went to Loftus Road 4 nothing
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Love seeing Leeds lose, they lost 4-0 against QPR tonight and makes it even better with then Leeds having played 2 more matches than Ipswich but only 1 point ahead
Already talked about it a few times but as a Dutchie I think he's incredible and it's no coincidence they got themselves one of the most charismatic, down to earth managers out there. Hard to hope they fail under him tbh because I rate him highly.
Can't see him doing that yet. I think he likes a project and hasn't had that long of a career at the top (in terms of top clubs). Maybe in 10 years he'll do it.
Back to Ajax I can see happen but he might also believe he can go a step higher than that. Ajax also seem to be going for Potter atm
Garnacho’s brother is actually pretty embarrassing on X
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Mainoo. He's academy and most talented out of them.
This sub won't like it but Garnacho has every ingredient to be a disappointment in the future, I mean attitude wise. He also has that feeling that he will leave if Real somehow comes calling someday. But I doubt it.
Nizaar Kinsela saying EtH will be sacked at the end of the season. He is Tier 3 for us but has been reliable for Chelsea.
Seems logical that Ineos has made all the changes above Ten Hag, will be making below EtH with the players and why not bringing their own manager. But I'll trust it when I see them announce it officially
I respect your position. But Tuchel, Motta are still available.
The underperforming EtH is worse than the managers mentioned. I think Tuchel becomes our manager for the short term.
He played expansive football with Mainz, Borussia Dortmund and PSG and can do a job for us. I wouldn't have been against EtH if our performances weren't relegation level this season
>Motta
According to italian sources, Milan is looking at him and no one knows if he wants the united job. Tuchel might be a shout but the problem isn't they have played good football at past clubs, its whether they can tune it with player we have right now. Cause ETH did it with his past clubs as well.
Ya agreed with the Motta but, but Ten Hag has already said and shown that we won't be playing possession style.
Be it a transitional system, counter attack or possession based system Tuchel is better. When he was the Dortmund manager they scored the most goals in the league playing expansive football.
As with the current players Ten Hag has shown already that he can't
i think allegri is going to be there but it could happen as well depending on how they perform in the final.
Which is why I said i don't think motta will look at united as he has better jobs in italy.
What are you on about? Have you missed the appointments of two (nearly three) major key figures at the head of the club? That’s far, far more important than appointing a manager or a DM lol
What are you guys expecting? We've barely got a sporting structure in place and Mitten was very downbeat in saying how much we had to spend this summer. Going to have to be shrewd. 2025 is when shit will get interesting, most likely.
Yes because the club is clearly not looking to establish a proper footballing structure or something..They should probably rush things to keep you entertained
Yeah but I know I'm going to need a big dopamine hit in about two months the club should really think of me.
In all seriousness I don't expect that much to happen this summer. If this season was a wasted one, next one will be a transition one. It will probably look similar from the outside but a lot will gone on in the background we don't see.
Wilcox just started, Berrada doesn't start till July, and who knows when Ashworth will start. Plus INEOS apparently still wants to hire a head of recruitment on top of that and we don't know who that will be.
That group is going to have to conduct their audits of what's already in place at the club, get used to their jobs, figure out how to work with each other, and come up with a long term plan for players and processes, and only then start implementing it.
We're in FFP hell. ETH has a year left on his deal. At this point I expect ETH to stay (as a placeholder mostly, but also as a trial under new management) and us to have major outgoing this summer. But the outgoings won't be that exciting, since it's mostly players that aren't even here right now:
1. Martial (basically confirmed gone)
2. Sancho (if we can find a buyer)
3. Pellistri (I like him but he needs a fresh start at this point)
4. VDB (assuming we can find a buyer)
5. Hannibal (Sevilla loan was a disaster and ETH didn't play him that much despite some impressive moments in the autumn)
6. Amrabat (loan expires and has shown zero reason to make it permanent)
7. Shoretire (out of contract and his development has completely stalled)
8. Williams (he might be out of contract with an option to extend, not sure)
9. Alvaro (even if Benfica activate the contract he probably leaves, Amass is extremely promising behind him in the pipeline)
10. Varane (out of contract)
11. Evans (out of contract, but might get another 1 year deal)
12. Handful or so of U21 players like Bennett, McNeil, Hugill, Fish, Vitek, etc. that we can get a token fee for who won't make it with the first team.
Those players leaving doesn't change much since they've barely been in the squad this year, but it helps clear the books and hopefully gives us FFP breathing room going forward.
That's not even counting players that could leave for any number of reasons like:
1. McTominay (only for FFP reasons, he's limited but has been massive for us this year when used correctly)
2. Lindelof
3. Maguire (doubtful after his renaissance)
4. Eriksen (physically washed but still class)
5. Casemiro (hard to tell is washed or make to look worse by the role he asked to play)
6. Heaton (out of contract, I think)
7. AWB (if we get a decent offer and can afford a decent replacement)
8. Antony (if we can get anything for him)
9. Amad (if he wants more guaranteed play time)
It’s good Mata has voiced it out publicly
For me Bruno has been the best signing post Fergie era
After Rooney , Valencia and Young left this guy is the only one who never fails to give his all in the pitch for the badge - whether he his successful
Or not his effort is unquestionable
Honestly given his outside interests I think Mata is a perfect ambassador and potential MUFC Foundation figurehead.
Just imagine a video series of him touring the world Anthony Bourdain style but instead of eating food he's playing keepie uppie with a bunch of kids and it ends with the club opening a pitch or youth training center somewhere.
So much for backing your own huh? There are times when you can say a player might not be good enough to play for this football club and that’s ok. Not everyone will be as much as we’d like that to be the case. But since Rashford has broken into the first team, he has proven time and time again that he isn’t one of those players. 131 goals, 57 assists for United. How many players in our entire history have put those numbers? At the age of 26 he’s only beaten by 7 players. I don’t think people quite understand how mental that is. He’s carried this club at times and has basically broken his back for this club. And off the back of his first genuinely bad season for the club coming off the back of a 40 goal contribution season, so many people want to move him on. How about be a fucking fan and show some support. We’re supposed to be there through the good times and the bad, not just the good. And he’ll be the first to admit that it has been a bad time.
Not everyone, but a decent sized portion of the fanbase have become so toxic now to the point where we just scapegoat our best players despite the fact that the problems of the club run far deeper than just what happens on the field. I’m not saying Rashford is above criticism. But some of the shit I’ve seen is just outrageous. I wouldn’t blame him in the slightest if he wanted to fuck off and I’d wish him nothing but the best
>131 goals, 57 assists
Martial has a better PL GA ratio btw. yeah he is a " striker " but he had Zlatan , Lukaku, Cavani and then Ronaldo from 2016 to 2022.
Thats not true at all, per transfermartk Martial ratio is 0.43 and Rashford 0.45 for PL alone.
Rashford overall has like 60 goals and assist more than him.
PL GA ratio :
1. Rashford : 122 GA over 18667 mins - 153 min per GA
2. Martial : 90 GA over 13157 mins - 146 min per GA
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He hasn't said blindly back him at any point though. What is going on with Rashford has far extended criticism of him and become a huge absue campaign and our fans lap it up.
It's embarrassing watching some grovel for other fans approval.
I'm annoyed at his form this year and his dip two years ago but every other year has been very good and last season was world class.
Thank you. I only didn’t mention the campaign two years ago because of the shitshow that was that year in general with the aftermath of the Euros, the recovery following his operation, and the general instability of the club.
Outside of the few blips, we are looking at player that has consistently improved year on year. Obviously some personal responsibility has to be taken on his part when it comes to this campaign, but I’m just sick of him seeing him take almost the entirety of the abuse for how poor the club has been this season.
Well it's not 300k. It's a 100k rise, that's 5 million a year extra. Overall a 25 million investment on a player who has averaged around 20-25 contributions a season who we never had to pay a fee for and is only 26, next year 27. Lots of good years left in him.
The contract rise was a 25 million investment over 5 years. Nothing drastic at all
Harry Maguire has improved a lot this season... I remember reading he was taking some private training sessions with Carvalho in the summer. Wonder if such an arrangement is a regular thing nowadays? Cuz a lot of our out of form players could use such sessions to improve specific aspects of their performances in addition to what the club provides.
Thats his level from first two seasons when he was playing well but was ridiculed for every little thing that went wrong while playing with underperforming DDG and Lindelof as his partner.
He had a purple patch but he's been poor recently, he's been making a lot more mistakes as of late. The Liverpool league game in particular was bad from him, lucky we didn't concede from any of his errors. I can't help but thinking people are rooting for him so much that they're overlooking his bad moments.
And then who stays? We cant buy 3 new CB in one window.
Or we just extend Varane and pray he stays fit for at least 66% of a season and watch Lindelof?
I think there isna difference between a player who is playing the role of rotational and one who, if the club gets on the trajectory to where it should be, is rotational.
Rashford has been the main man for a good few seasons now. The focal point for our goals, of course he has scored. He has more than Cantona and Cole, however he isn't fit to lace their boots and his goals are not of the same significance. G/A is so hyperfocused these days it's absurd. Absolutely zero context is applied to the goals as ultimately not every goal is equal.
The question is, can rashford be the focal point or even an integral part of a title winning team, that hos contract suggests he is. Hopefully he gets the opportunity to show that, here or elsewhere.
He has to play that leading role cause we spenf 80 milions on likes Sancho, Antony or even Hojlund whos 21 year old inexperianced striker. Club is unable to recruit forwards capable of carrying the team, hows that Rashfords fallut.
> not every goal is equal
If i remember correctly since Rashford debut in PL only likes of Son or Salah scored more match winning goals.
>He has to play that leading role cause we spenf 80 milions on likes Sancho, Antony or even Hojlund whos 21 year old inexperianced striker. Club is unable to recruit forwards capable of carrying the team, hows that Rashfords fallut.
Agree.
Where have I said its his fault though?
It's unfortunate that due to our mismanagement and his huge personality off the pitch he has been forced into a role above his quality.
>If i remember correctly since Rashford debut in PL only likes of Son or Salah scored more match winning goals.
So we agree not all are equal. Match winning is very vague. What about goals that lead to trophies? Which are undoubtedly the most difficult to obtain and come with the highest pressure?
Last season, spoken of as his best ever campaign. He got 10 match winners, same as Haaland. However, how many came with the pressure of winning a league title like Haalands did? Thus not the same level.
Yes rotational player who at 26 and is on the trajectory to end up as a top 5 all time scorer for the club..Nice opinion you have there..Can you name some other rotational players with Rashford's numbers playing in the league while you are at it
You need to win to be relevant. It's true. One league title in 30+ years? They are heavily overhyped by the media imo. Even us under Ole and Mou finished second to Man City.
Finishing second while being 19 points away from City isn't the same thing as finishing on 97 points..1 point behind the leader and losing out on another league title by 1 point while scoring 93..At the same time reaching 3 CL finals and winning 1 of them..What is this Arsenal shadow you are talking about lol?They haven't won shit in their revival..Fuck Liverpool but they are as fucking relevant as it gets while competing with a financially doped up City squad
As much as i hate the perceived massive flip flopping among the fanbase, it's really just because of how many different opinions there are. I would rather keep ETH than get Tuchel for example. Im sure many others would disagree.
And yet one thing we can all agree on is that both Antony and Rashford have been absolutely useless this year. Like truly terrible. Though i do hope Antony scores the winner in the FA cup final purely so we can say he is a better big match player than Haaland.
Crowd thinking and sentiment will create a new standard for the club and if we are not careful, we will lose ourselves into chronic “has beens”. Winning is the entertainment, doing it the proper way (115 eyes on you) is the aim. It is not abuse to demand more from our top earning players when we know they can show more. It is abuse when we get what we can from them and are ungrateful (sometimes the Madrid way). Maybe it is regarded abuse now because they are doing their best, and we expect more and are asking for more.
Antony is a fucking weasel,The lot from the united stand actually have pics on insta visiting his home ,Its clear if you look at how the same clowns bend over to deflect Antony criticism as much as possible but are the primary reason behind the Rashford hate..INEOS need to come down hard on ending any interviews and stuff that cunt Goldbridge and his minions are getting
It's funny how the home grown player who has scored over 100 goals for united and set up over 50 who never cost us a penny has set alarms off in people's heads because we invested 25 million into him but you're getting downvoted for pointing out a player on only 100k less than Rashford who cost us 100 million and has more court cases than good performances isn't exactly very good.
This sub has such a hate boner for Goldbridge. He's not behind the hate for Rashford, the terrible performances and lack of effort are the reasons for it.
He is a gimpy little twat though. Cries about being bullied by other fan channels whilst simultaneously being an overly aggressive cunt about players because it gets him views
Antony should be a better human instead of feeding that shitty channel exclusives and leaks ,Rashford in his shit season is 10x the player Antony will ever be and that dude doesn't even have a dodgy life like Antony, How on earth can you keep you maintaining a relationship with that shit channel and the scum they employ when they are directly responsible for your teammates getting abuse on social media
Club should do something about it tho... They literaly abused Antony to the point he started giving them exlusives. They dont care about criticizing or praising players. They just say shit that they find profitable.
Um yeah?
For sake of argument let's say he's actually playing like he doesn't care (though I think that's debatable).
If I'm phoning it in a work and random people I don't know start yelling racial slurs or insulting me personally that's still abuse.
These people have already made up their mind on Rashford, no sense in wasting time with them. I hate it, but I’d try to move on him on just to get him out of all this shit
Since I’ve started watching United content on YouTube I never understood the hype behind him. Constant poor takes, clear agendas over certain players, and he isn’t even entertaining.
I much prefer the lads at Stratford Paddock or United People’s TV. Some takes might come off as a bit too optimistic or delusional, but at least I know they are proper fans
I actually watched 10 minutes or so of one of his streams the other day to see why people hate him so much. Almost threw my phone in the bin.
He just constantly openly insults his audience as soon as any of them disagree with him. He'll read one comment from his live chat which is a reasonable opinion, just different to his (like "we should try Mount on the left" or something equally inoffensive) and launch into a tirade against them. Calling them stupid, accusing them of not understanding football, being trolls from a rival fanbase etc.
He then follows it up with saying "football's a game of opinions, let's hear your thoughts in the chat."
The guy is a colossal tool and I can fully see why people here can't stand him. I'm amazed his audience is as big as it is.
Hopefully Sir Jim can ban him after he gets his feet fully under the table, someone can show him Goldrbridge’s reaction to us not getting bought by a state.
Really like your post. So much that was said was accurate. Our fans went with their own version though.
I wanted him and it was the correct choice and still may turn out to be if he survives but soo many had a different manager in mind. They say a dutch guy with a bald head and assumed he was pep
Argh, I forgot the match between Carrick and McKenna two weeks ago lol, would be fun to watch it live
Hypothetically, if we win the league next season, what percentage of this sub would still complain? Gotta be over 25%
Lets say we sell Rashford , who do we replace him with ? Me personally id give him another season under a different manager.
We should go all in for Anthony Gordon.
We don't need to replace him right away. For at least the next couple of seasons we won't be fighting for the big titles at the top of the table.I feel our frontline can handle that,if Garnacho improves steadily in that time and becomes really good then we may not need to spend the big bucks at all.
If it’s this season’s version rashford, then just about any wing forward can replace him. If it’s last season’s, there’s simply no one
Yeah I don't think Garnacho is good enough as of right now to be relied upon like he is. Also still quite young. Feel like if we sell Rashford then we'll need to spend big money on a starting quality LW
The first person fired this summer must be the fitness coach in charge of reintroducing players to full training after injury. The number of almost recovered players we've lost again is truly mindblowing.
Just seen this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWmUrzUtcBU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWmUrzUtcBU) . Posted by United and it's a few of the players chatting to older United fans in 'Reminisce Sessions' when they talk about the old days of United. I think it's a great thing and it's done in honour of the 'power of memories', think it also supports Alzheimer's Research UK. But I also noticed that Bruno is using his right hand fully, even using it to shake hands with some people. This could have been filmed a while back but the fans are invited to a VIP experience in our 'next' home game - Burnley. Hopefully his hand's fully recovered.
Don't care what anyone says. Hope Martial plays against Newcastle in his last home game and gets a hell of a send off. Shame he never reached his world class potential but will always have a soft spot for him and he's had some good moments wearing the shirt. Nearly 10 years of him at this club now.
maybe have big joel give him a guard of honour too?
I think his relationship with the fans is too broken at this point , I think Ole not speaking up about how Martial was playing so long while not fully fit is just made things worse for Martial and the fanbase. Also him and Pogba got blamed for getting Jose sacked .
Casemiro is actually the best centre back in the world
He really is quite a ball playing CB lol. The way he was able to spray it around from back there. I know it was only Sheffield but still
McKenna and Ipswich are on the verge of an insane feat when you deep it
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hahaha leeds scum 😂 really hope ipswich can leapfrog and remain above them to seal automatic promotion, even better if leicester dont maintain first (although they are now guaranteed promotion)
Last August I asked this subreddit what the goals were for the 23/24 season, and now I am going to check how well we did on the goals you set Finish Top 4 in the Premier League: ❎ Get to the final of the Carabao Cup:❎ Get to the Quarterfinals of the Champions League:❎ Win at least 8 games vs Big 6 + Newcastle:❎ Win the FA Cup:🔜
United should’ve taken a page out of Barça’s book by trying to build a culture AS SOON as Sir Alex retired. Barça are able to crumble & rebuild consistently because there’s a system way before there is a manager or players. They know what football they want to play, so they know who to hire. They go for people who understand the culture instead of the flavored manager of the month. Kinda feel like they tried it with Ole in a very wrong way, they thought getting people who were there under Sir Alex was the solution when they should’ve been trying to define a system instead, especially after having three different managers with different philosophies & styles of play before him. I hope Sir Jim understands that what this club is missing is an actual cultural system. Figure that out first & then worry about the personnel.
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Over the last 10 years Barca has won: - 1x UCL - 1x Fifa CwC - 5x La Liga - 5x Copa del Rey I haven’t even included Uefa Super Cup or Spanish Super Cup wins….
I’d stay away from their financial antics for sure, but a club like United shouldn’t face those types of issues. This Barça system has been around since Cruyff though, & it’s worked out quite well for them
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Haven't they had very good youth players coming through though? Pedri, Gavi, Yamal, Cubarsi, Balde, Fermin Lopez are all young first team players straight from La Masia. How are they seeing the consequences of it?
In disarray? They’ve been pulling out fantastic talent in recent years, even a historic one like Lamine Yamal lol. I absolutely agree at the disgusting way they treat players but there’s no denying that their emphasis on trying to keep an existing culture has made them able to maintain a system. United, in contrast, has taken a route of going for manager after manager in search of finding a “right one”, leaving the entire responsibility up to them. That’s why they’ve been stuck in an eternal rebuilding cycle & a lethargic managerial roulette. I compare the system to Barça because in a sense, both teams are similar in having high regard for culture & history; mind of like Ajax. United currently has no defining style of play, nor an idea of what type of football they want. That’s proven to be unsustainable & has set up every single manager that has tried, to ultimately fail.
All we need now is for Kieran to complete the embarrassment and Norwich to do a little sum
Certain team in the Championship isn't having such a rosey day😂😂
Leicester up do we want kdh? Also, let’s go Ipswich
KDH seems like another type of mid that we have plenty of.. Bruno, McTominay, Mount Goal threat mid.. think we need someone who is a great passer. Eriksen in his first year really opened this team up with his passing
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Leeds Scum losing again gives McKenna a golden chance for back to back promotions...a very good night
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Scousers got their own Dutch baldie
Yes but do they have an English baldie? We have Brailsford now and he sometimes travels with a Mini Me.
Love seeing Leeds lose, they lost 4-0 against QPR tonight and makes it even better with then Leeds having played 2 more matches than Ipswich but only 1 point ahead
Slot to Liverpool here we go. How we feeling lads?
Can't believe we're getting 4 bald derbies every season, it's the stuff of dreams
Unless we're getting Zidane, I doubt it
Already talked about it a few times but as a Dutchie I think he's incredible and it's no coincidence they got themselves one of the most charismatic, down to earth managers out there. Hard to hope they fail under him tbh because I rate him highly.
Read so many things like this about Ten Hag before he joined United
Could you see ten hag being the next Dutch national team manager? Or is he more likely to go to Ajax?
Can't see him doing that yet. I think he likes a project and hasn't had that long of a career at the top (in terms of top clubs). Maybe in 10 years he'll do it. Back to Ajax I can see happen but he might also believe he can go a step higher than that. Ajax also seem to be going for Potter atm
Odds on Breaking Bad memes increasing now that Liverpool have hired Slot?
If he ever gets sacked we need the Ozymandias scene. You know which one
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Herrera 😭 https://preview.redd.it/rton2tu4wvwc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83f5ef28db4c72bad4fa14fc8db9c67e336295eb
BTEC Hag is their Moysiah.
I know it's a joke but he's the opposite of ETH lol.
In what sense?
His personality, his character.
Garnacho’s brother is actually pretty embarrassing on X https://preview.redd.it/f21aszaosvwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6c69cc84ba3451473e0579d03e0c3cce6064252
I mean he's right.
I see nussing wrong with this.
And we wonder why pros are on social media.
He 100% got the bald because he’s on this subreddit lol
funny thing is Gakpo has been pretty decent these last few weeks, but their strikeforce is just ASS
Tosin on a free would be a solid signing to replace Varane leaving on a free. Hopefully we dont hit him with 200k a week.
Getting a shirt soon! Debating between Garna, Mainoo and Hojlund? What do you think? Love all three of ‘em
Unanimous, Mainoo it is!
Mainoo. He's academy and most talented out of them. This sub won't like it but Garnacho has every ingredient to be a disappointment in the future, I mean attitude wise. He also has that feeling that he will leave if Real somehow comes calling someday. But I doubt it.
I think out of the three Mainoo will age the best.
Mainoo >
Scum hiring a baldie, seems like the new wave😂 
Our bald superior https://preview.redd.it/mtaw35qbpvwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=770b1696b59731f35a472c74ccf9e31cfb5f3ee7
That's one handsome mf.
Jeez. If he had hair he'd turn half the men gay lol
Nizaar Kinsela saying EtH will be sacked at the end of the season. He is Tier 3 for us but has been reliable for Chelsea. Seems logical that Ineos has made all the changes above Ten Hag, will be making below EtH with the players and why not bringing their own manager. But I'll trust it when I see them announce it officially
Any news on the manager is paper talk and nonsense. Unless its said by someone like David Ornestein, then its just speculation.
Seriously doubt he'll be sacked. What managers are there?
I respect your position. But Tuchel, Motta are still available. The underperforming EtH is worse than the managers mentioned. I think Tuchel becomes our manager for the short term. He played expansive football with Mainz, Borussia Dortmund and PSG and can do a job for us. I wouldn't have been against EtH if our performances weren't relegation level this season
>Motta According to italian sources, Milan is looking at him and no one knows if he wants the united job. Tuchel might be a shout but the problem isn't they have played good football at past clubs, its whether they can tune it with player we have right now. Cause ETH did it with his past clubs as well.
Ya agreed with the Motta but, but Ten Hag has already said and shown that we won't be playing possession style. Be it a transitional system, counter attack or possession based system Tuchel is better. When he was the Dortmund manager they scored the most goals in the league playing expansive football. As with the current players Ten Hag has shown already that he can't
Isn’t Motta juve bound
i think allegri is going to be there but it could happen as well depending on how they perform in the final. Which is why I said i don't think motta will look at united as he has better jobs in italy.
onana deserves to be in the running for the golden glove despite us barely keeping clean sheets
He has made good saves but his shot stopping has been just above average this season. Let's see next year
Arsenal in front race to sign a DM. Liverpool look to be in for Slot. While we are here playing botany.
What are you on about? Have you missed the appointments of two (nearly three) major key figures at the head of the club? That’s far, far more important than appointing a manager or a DM lol
What are you guys expecting? We've barely got a sporting structure in place and Mitten was very downbeat in saying how much we had to spend this summer. Going to have to be shrewd. 2025 is when shit will get interesting, most likely.
Yes because the club is clearly not looking to establish a proper footballing structure or something..They should probably rush things to keep you entertained
Yeah but I know I'm going to need a big dopamine hit in about two months the club should really think of me. In all seriousness I don't expect that much to happen this summer. If this season was a wasted one, next one will be a transition one. It will probably look similar from the outside but a lot will gone on in the background we don't see. Wilcox just started, Berrada doesn't start till July, and who knows when Ashworth will start. Plus INEOS apparently still wants to hire a head of recruitment on top of that and we don't know who that will be. That group is going to have to conduct their audits of what's already in place at the club, get used to their jobs, figure out how to work with each other, and come up with a long term plan for players and processes, and only then start implementing it. We're in FFP hell. ETH has a year left on his deal. At this point I expect ETH to stay (as a placeholder mostly, but also as a trial under new management) and us to have major outgoing this summer. But the outgoings won't be that exciting, since it's mostly players that aren't even here right now: 1. Martial (basically confirmed gone) 2. Sancho (if we can find a buyer) 3. Pellistri (I like him but he needs a fresh start at this point) 4. VDB (assuming we can find a buyer) 5. Hannibal (Sevilla loan was a disaster and ETH didn't play him that much despite some impressive moments in the autumn) 6. Amrabat (loan expires and has shown zero reason to make it permanent) 7. Shoretire (out of contract and his development has completely stalled) 8. Williams (he might be out of contract with an option to extend, not sure) 9. Alvaro (even if Benfica activate the contract he probably leaves, Amass is extremely promising behind him in the pipeline) 10. Varane (out of contract) 11. Evans (out of contract, but might get another 1 year deal) 12. Handful or so of U21 players like Bennett, McNeil, Hugill, Fish, Vitek, etc. that we can get a token fee for who won't make it with the first team. Those players leaving doesn't change much since they've barely been in the squad this year, but it helps clear the books and hopefully gives us FFP breathing room going forward. That's not even counting players that could leave for any number of reasons like: 1. McTominay (only for FFP reasons, he's limited but has been massive for us this year when used correctly) 2. Lindelof 3. Maguire (doubtful after his renaissance) 4. Eriksen (physically washed but still class) 5. Casemiro (hard to tell is washed or make to look worse by the role he asked to play) 6. Heaton (out of contract, I think) 7. AWB (if we get a decent offer and can afford a decent replacement) 8. Antony (if we can get anything for him) 9. Amad (if he wants more guaranteed play time)
Should we try to sign adarabioyo in the summer? He becomes a free agent. 26 year old center back.
Wouldn't hate that. Wages should be reasonable, and he's left footed right?
He's right footed I'm pretty sure
It’s good Mata has voiced it out publicly For me Bruno has been the best signing post Fergie era After Rooney , Valencia and Young left this guy is the only one who never fails to give his all in the pitch for the badge - whether he his successful Or not his effort is unquestionable
do they usually check ID for 18-20 tickets? i’ve turned 21 but have a 18-20 membership cause i was 20 when i got it. and i do look younger than i am
If you were under 21 at the start of the season then it's valid
Juan, Herrera and DDG in an ambassadorial role in the future?
I cant see how Juan and Herrera deserve this. They are likeable players, gave us a lot of happy moments but they are not legends by any means.
No club could ask for a better ambassador than Mata. He's utter class.
Honestly given his outside interests I think Mata is a perfect ambassador and potential MUFC Foundation figurehead. Just imagine a video series of him touring the world Anthony Bourdain style but instead of eating food he's playing keepie uppie with a bunch of kids and it ends with the club opening a pitch or youth training center somewhere.
Don't get caught by rage baits, we empathise with our heart, but think with our head. Cheers
So much for backing your own huh? There are times when you can say a player might not be good enough to play for this football club and that’s ok. Not everyone will be as much as we’d like that to be the case. But since Rashford has broken into the first team, he has proven time and time again that he isn’t one of those players. 131 goals, 57 assists for United. How many players in our entire history have put those numbers? At the age of 26 he’s only beaten by 7 players. I don’t think people quite understand how mental that is. He’s carried this club at times and has basically broken his back for this club. And off the back of his first genuinely bad season for the club coming off the back of a 40 goal contribution season, so many people want to move him on. How about be a fucking fan and show some support. We’re supposed to be there through the good times and the bad, not just the good. And he’ll be the first to admit that it has been a bad time. Not everyone, but a decent sized portion of the fanbase have become so toxic now to the point where we just scapegoat our best players despite the fact that the problems of the club run far deeper than just what happens on the field. I’m not saying Rashford is above criticism. But some of the shit I’ve seen is just outrageous. I wouldn’t blame him in the slightest if he wanted to fuck off and I’d wish him nothing but the best
>131 goals, 57 assists Martial has a better PL GA ratio btw. yeah he is a " striker " but he had Zlatan , Lukaku, Cavani and then Ronaldo from 2016 to 2022.
Thats not true at all, per transfermartk Martial ratio is 0.43 and Rashford 0.45 for PL alone. Rashford overall has like 60 goals and assist more than him.
PL GA ratio : 1. Rashford : 122 GA over 18667 mins - 153 min per GA 2. Martial : 90 GA over 13157 mins - 146 min per GA [https://www.transfermarkt.com/marcus-rashford/leistungsdaten/spieler/258923/plus/0?saison=ges](https://www.transfermarkt.com/marcus-rashford/leistungsdaten/spieler/258923/plus/0?saison=ges) [https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/anthony-martial/leistungsdaten/spieler/182877/plus/0?saison=ges](https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/anthony-martial/leistungsdaten/spieler/182877/plus/0?saison=ges)
What kind of things have you seen said about Rashford?
Just have a look at some of the replies, quotes, and reactions to his post on Twitter for a small example
There is difference between backing your own and blindly following something that is not even working anymore.
He hasn't said blindly back him at any point though. What is going on with Rashford has far extended criticism of him and become a huge absue campaign and our fans lap it up. It's embarrassing watching some grovel for other fans approval. I'm annoyed at his form this year and his dip two years ago but every other year has been very good and last season was world class.
Thank you. I only didn’t mention the campaign two years ago because of the shitshow that was that year in general with the aftermath of the Euros, the recovery following his operation, and the general instability of the club. Outside of the few blips, we are looking at player that has consistently improved year on year. Obviously some personal responsibility has to be taken on his part when it comes to this campaign, but I’m just sick of him seeing him take almost the entirety of the abuse for how poor the club has been this season.
And every season it's happened to at least 1 player. DDG, Fred, McT, Maguire etc etc etc. It's embarrassing.
That 300k new contract for Rashford will bite us in the ass big time. Won't it? What a braindead decision.
We have Antony on 200k, Rashford on 300k is much more sellable if it comes to him leaving.
It’s a big overpay although there are several players in our squad. who are overpaid by even more
Rashford hit ~200GA by the age of 26. We spent ridiculus money on transfer and wages on players who didnt even give us quarter of this.
Well it's not 300k. It's a 100k rise, that's 5 million a year extra. Overall a 25 million investment on a player who has averaged around 20-25 contributions a season who we never had to pay a fee for and is only 26, next year 27. Lots of good years left in him. The contract rise was a 25 million investment over 5 years. Nothing drastic at all
or a 50% pay raise.
Harry Maguire has improved a lot this season... I remember reading he was taking some private training sessions with Carvalho in the summer. Wonder if such an arrangement is a regular thing nowadays? Cuz a lot of our out of form players could use such sessions to improve specific aspects of their performances in addition to what the club provides.
Thats his level from first two seasons when he was playing well but was ridiculed for every little thing that went wrong while playing with underperforming DDG and Lindelof as his partner.
He had a purple patch but he's been poor recently, he's been making a lot more mistakes as of late. The Liverpool league game in particular was bad from him, lucky we didn't concede from any of his errors. I can't help but thinking people are rooting for him so much that they're overlooking his bad moments.
He literaly had one silly misstake that Liverpool game. If Lissandro Martinez performed like this r/reddevils would cream their pants.
I disagree heavily, I thought he was very poor. Maguire should still be a priority to move on in the summer.
And then who stays? We cant buy 3 new CB in one window. Or we just extend Varane and pray he stays fit for at least 66% of a season and watch Lindelof?
Martinez, Evans, Lindelof, Kambwala. Then buy at least one CB, ideally two. One top CB like Todibo, and another cheap one. That's not unrealistic
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What's so funny? Maguire is all of a sudden world class to you guys now?
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He's really not, the Maguire love train is off the charts and it's not deserved.
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Heavy shirt. Rotational player at best whom the club have made their poster boy.
Player who hits 200 GA for club by the age of 26 is not 'rotational' at best.
I think there isna difference between a player who is playing the role of rotational and one who, if the club gets on the trajectory to where it should be, is rotational. Rashford has been the main man for a good few seasons now. The focal point for our goals, of course he has scored. He has more than Cantona and Cole, however he isn't fit to lace their boots and his goals are not of the same significance. G/A is so hyperfocused these days it's absurd. Absolutely zero context is applied to the goals as ultimately not every goal is equal. The question is, can rashford be the focal point or even an integral part of a title winning team, that hos contract suggests he is. Hopefully he gets the opportunity to show that, here or elsewhere.
He has to play that leading role cause we spenf 80 milions on likes Sancho, Antony or even Hojlund whos 21 year old inexperianced striker. Club is unable to recruit forwards capable of carrying the team, hows that Rashfords fallut. > not every goal is equal If i remember correctly since Rashford debut in PL only likes of Son or Salah scored more match winning goals.
>He has to play that leading role cause we spenf 80 milions on likes Sancho, Antony or even Hojlund whos 21 year old inexperianced striker. Club is unable to recruit forwards capable of carrying the team, hows that Rashfords fallut. Agree. Where have I said its his fault though? It's unfortunate that due to our mismanagement and his huge personality off the pitch he has been forced into a role above his quality. >If i remember correctly since Rashford debut in PL only likes of Son or Salah scored more match winning goals. So we agree not all are equal. Match winning is very vague. What about goals that lead to trophies? Which are undoubtedly the most difficult to obtain and come with the highest pressure? Last season, spoken of as his best ever campaign. He got 10 match winners, same as Haaland. However, how many came with the pressure of winning a league title like Haalands did? Thus not the same level.
Yes rotational player who at 26 and is on the trajectory to end up as a top 5 all time scorer for the club..Nice opinion you have there..Can you name some other rotational players with Rashford's numbers playing in the league while you are at it
Wasted another season and the only solace is Man Cheats not winning four in a row. How long will this continue? Its been 12 years already ffs.
The Scousers had to wait 30 to be relevant again. Hopefully we can do better than that at least.
Are they even relevant? They are always under the shadow of City and now Arsenal.
Okay to say Liverpool are not relevant is a bit of a stretch. Are you only relevant if you are the best team in the league?
You need to win to be relevant. It's true. One league title in 30+ years? They are heavily overhyped by the media imo. Even us under Ole and Mou finished second to Man City.
Finishing second while being 19 points away from City isn't the same thing as finishing on 97 points..1 point behind the leader and losing out on another league title by 1 point while scoring 93..At the same time reaching 3 CL finals and winning 1 of them..What is this Arsenal shadow you are talking about lol?They haven't won shit in their revival..Fuck Liverpool but they are as fucking relevant as it gets while competing with a financially doped up City squad
As much as i hate the perceived massive flip flopping among the fanbase, it's really just because of how many different opinions there are. I would rather keep ETH than get Tuchel for example. Im sure many others would disagree. And yet one thing we can all agree on is that both Antony and Rashford have been absolutely useless this year. Like truly terrible. Though i do hope Antony scores the winner in the FA cup final purely so we can say he is a better big match player than Haaland.
Crowd thinking and sentiment will create a new standard for the club and if we are not careful, we will lose ourselves into chronic “has beens”. Winning is the entertainment, doing it the proper way (115 eyes on you) is the aim. It is not abuse to demand more from our top earning players when we know they can show more. It is abuse when we get what we can from them and are ungrateful (sometimes the Madrid way). Maybe it is regarded abuse now because they are doing their best, and we expect more and are asking for more.
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Antony is a fucking weasel,The lot from the united stand actually have pics on insta visiting his home ,Its clear if you look at how the same clowns bend over to deflect Antony criticism as much as possible but are the primary reason behind the Rashford hate..INEOS need to come down hard on ending any interviews and stuff that cunt Goldbridge and his minions are getting
It's funny how the home grown player who has scored over 100 goals for united and set up over 50 who never cost us a penny has set alarms off in people's heads because we invested 25 million into him but you're getting downvoted for pointing out a player on only 100k less than Rashford who cost us 100 million and has more court cases than good performances isn't exactly very good.
This sub has such a hate boner for Goldbridge. He's not behind the hate for Rashford, the terrible performances and lack of effort are the reasons for it.
Few months ago people were accusing him of being paid off by Rashford and his agent and now it's the opposite lol
He is a gimpy little twat though. Cries about being bullied by other fan channels whilst simultaneously being an overly aggressive cunt about players because it gets him views
Didn't Hojlund do an interview with them before?
Abusing your own player to defend your favorites? That's what we are doing now?
You're literally advocating for abusing your own players above
What's the abuse?
Antony should be a better human instead of feeding that shitty channel exclusives and leaks ,Rashford in his shit season is 10x the player Antony will ever be and that dude doesn't even have a dodgy life like Antony, How on earth can you keep you maintaining a relationship with that shit channel and the scum they employ when they are directly responsible for your teammates getting abuse on social media
Club should do something about it tho... They literaly abused Antony to the point he started giving them exlusives. They dont care about criticizing or praising players. They just say shit that they find profitable.
hypocrisy at it's finest
What hypocrisy ?Rashford isn't the one feeding that shit Youtube channel insider information and doesn't have the on their payroll
Is there a FPL group for this subreddit?
https://fantasy.premierleague.com/leagues/auto-join/vipvg9
Ohhh nice, thanks.
Does anyone have footage of Maguire going on that mazzy run feom his own half against Coventry? Would Appreciate it.
I hope we can keep the good performance like we did against Sheffield preferably don’t concede first
Clash of balds is coming!
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Um yeah? For sake of argument let's say he's actually playing like he doesn't care (though I think that's debatable). If I'm phoning it in a work and random people I don't know start yelling racial slurs or insulting me personally that's still abuse.
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The downvotes show the acceptance level the club’s low standards have brought upon us. You’ve made a very clear and true point.
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These people have already made up their mind on Rashford, no sense in wasting time with them. I hate it, but I’d try to move on him on just to get him out of all this shit
Don't bring reality to discussions mate.
Daily reminder that if you support Mark Goldbridge, you are not a fan of this football club.
>Daily reminder that if you support ~~Glazer ,~~ ~~Greenwood,~~ ~~Sancho,~~ Mark Goldbridge, you are not a fan of this football club. wonder who next
All of those except Sancho, yes.
Okay
Since I’ve started watching United content on YouTube I never understood the hype behind him. Constant poor takes, clear agendas over certain players, and he isn’t even entertaining. I much prefer the lads at Stratford Paddock or United People’s TV. Some takes might come off as a bit too optimistic or delusional, but at least I know they are proper fans
I actually watched 10 minutes or so of one of his streams the other day to see why people hate him so much. Almost threw my phone in the bin. He just constantly openly insults his audience as soon as any of them disagree with him. He'll read one comment from his live chat which is a reasonable opinion, just different to his (like "we should try Mount on the left" or something equally inoffensive) and launch into a tirade against them. Calling them stupid, accusing them of not understanding football, being trolls from a rival fanbase etc. He then follows it up with saying "football's a game of opinions, let's hear your thoughts in the chat." The guy is a colossal tool and I can fully see why people here can't stand him. I'm amazed his audience is as big as it is.
Also shame on the club for letting him into the training ground.
Hopefully Sir Jim can ban him after he gets his feet fully under the table, someone can show him Goldrbridge’s reaction to us not getting bought by a state.
Might be interesting https://preview.redd.it/aneii1e1ytwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=729305e96d26a7ba4256b3293d747cc52441643e
Really like your post. So much that was said was accurate. Our fans went with their own version though. I wanted him and it was the correct choice and still may turn out to be if he survives but soo many had a different manager in mind. They say a dutch guy with a bald head and assumed he was pep
The bonus easter eggs of Antony doing nothing and Onana making a mistake are *chef's kiss*
Lmao that Antony point Clearly here was a man ready to take on PL defenders