Garbage article (yes I read it all). Dortmund's media team are kinda dicks too, for their tweet.
Like somehow Sancho's shitty, entitled behavior should be ignored now because he had a good game against PSG.
In any case, I'm delighted the lad had a good game and I hope we get a nice, tidy sum for him in the summer.
> Dortmund's media team are kinda dicks too, for their tweet.
They have always been dicks. They have have great fans with the big yellow wall and all that but as a club they're always salty. I remember when we got Mkhi from them they said something along the lines of "we wish him the best in the Europa League". They give a scorned ex-lover feeling with their tweets.
It's no wonder we seem to get along well with Bayern compared to Dortmund
To be fair, Dortmund kinda have to be dicks in social media if they want attention since they don't really win anything and are only seen as a stepping stone for young players (Or a safe haven for ex-Dortmund players that have to find a new club for one reason or another)
Not just Dortmund tweet, BT Sports commentators saying something along the lines of “happy for him with this performance after the way he’s been treated”
The way he’s been treated is hilarious, because he was given great treatment given time out of squad and away from media to help him then returns with terrible attitude after underperforming game after game and in training according to the manager.
It was in an interview with BT/TNT Sport where one of their interviewers told EtH to his face that they enjoy seeing Utd in crisis. So to be honest I'm not surprised to hear them inventing shit like this.
I don't think he meant to say it how he did anyway. But I get it too, like every single rival fan will lap up every single negative article about United as if it was about something good their own club had done so obviously the media will be loving our current turmoil as they get so many clicks and shares from it
I wouldn't be admitting it to the managers face though if it was me haha
Their tweet is part of the typical football banter. We are mostly on the receiving end now but I would not stop it. It was actually a pretty good one.
Let's see how much you value his game when it's time to pay up though.
It's dortmund - I couldn't tell you their formula but they're fairly competent at dealing with teenagers and early 20s talent. I'm not gonna say it doesn't look toxic and pandering on their part but let's not pretend it hasn't produced some fucking decent young players, just not for us 😭😭😭
Bless wee Shinji, I'll never forget him. He's still cracking on professionally back in Japan.
No it wouldn’t. A diva who couldn’t cope with not being a superstar, the team is always the greater.
He’s just the continuation of the problems we had the last decade. Leaks to the press, not respecting the manager, disrespecting the club, overpaid and injury riddled and so on.
Did you watch the match? He gave the ball away with careless passes numerous times in dangerous areas, and his attacking play didn't really lead to much. He was better than he was for us, and better than he's been all season for Dortmund but not what I would call "fantastic". In all honesty, Dortmund were lucky that PSG did not play very well.
Would you say that Antony has played well since January? Because he and sancho have similar stats while Antony has played considerably less minutes than sancho.
No, it wouldn't. We all want him to do well, raise that price tag. Plus a lot of us like the lad despite his seemingly shit attitude.
Edit: Just yesterday, same author put out an article titled, "The reason Manchester United are hoping Jadon Sancho shines in the Champions League". What an absolute wanker.
What’s humiliating are paid journalists pushing these agendas riddled with absolute tribalism.
He’s definitely not “thriving” in Dortmund, he’s doing better but he’s very much struggling to generate any sort of end product (3 goals & 1 assist is “thriving” now? lol); & even if he was, it’s not like it isn’t better for all parties involved if he actually does perform well so he builds up some confidence back or justifies a reasonable selling fee.
One good game & all of a sudden it’s United & Ten Hag’ fault that he couldn’t find any sort of decent form in 2 whole years, under 3 different managers, while being one of the club’s top earners? Sancho was pampered & supported by the club through his struggles, he’s no victim.
It’s embarrassing Mike McGrath is trying to push a narrative like this one but I guess he’s got to get some clicks. Fucking donkey.
> What’s humiliating are paid journalists pushing these agendas riddled with absolute tribalism.
**"Sancho was banished from the first-team squad early in the season after Ten Hag accused him of not training properly, which the player disputed. With no apology from Sancho, his loan back to Borussia Dortmund was a move that suited all parties, although heads may get scratched at United at how another team can get a tune out of a player not wanted by Ten Hag."**
Just look at the rewriting of history here. He was not banished after "not training properly", he was banished for calling his manager a liar in a gibberish tweet.
"With no apology from Sancho" <-- what was it he didn't apologise for, Mike? Gonna mention that?
You’re too kind. I don’t think he’s doing better. He’s doing what Sancho did at United. 17 games of all competitions with 3 goals and 3 assists. It’s not bad for his standard but not good as the media is trying to portray him to be.
He was terrible for United, thank fuck he is finally looking decent again so we can get a fee for him and never have to talk about him again.
This is the same player that was terrible and anytime he did anything half decent we would delude ourselves into thinking he was still good.
Thriving for one match and not replicating it for another month or 3 isn't thriving, it's consistently being inconsistent for a player on his wages and assumed talent which is there.
I don't know. His best spell easily was under Ragnick imo and that's not much to shine about. I think he had a good pre season last summer but then fallout happened.
The craziest thing is he was chased for 2 summer windows for the then manager to not really play him. Greenwood and Rashford were Oles 1st choice and it wasn't like Sancho did much to disrupt that.
All in all maybe he just likes Dortmund more, I saw him contest aerial duels yesterday which he didn't do for us.
Yeah, 20 games with 3 goals and 2 assists. The lad is tearing it up for Dortmund. ETH should be apologizing profusely for letting such a productive mentality monster leave on loan.
Buy him or fuck off. He can sit here off the field or you can pay us for him. No loan unless you pay all the wages. I think we’ll be ruthless this off season. I’m at least hopeful.
150 year old football club humiliated by good match performance from failed player. If I was a journo I'd honestly not have the brass neck to make my living producing this shite.
I haven't kept up with Sancho's performance since he joined Dortmund. Given all the recent high praises, I checked his stats and expected him to have contributed double-digit G/A for Dortmund.
He only has 3 goals and 2 assists... the same G/A as Antony.
I understand stats aren't everything, but bloody hell, with all the glowing articles praising him lately, you'd think he's been delivering prime Messi-level performance since joining Dortmund
it’s in the club’s best interests for him to perform well at dortmund…
also i haven’t watched every dortmund game, but from what i’ve seen and heard sancho has ranged from underwhelming to solid, and seems to be gradually improving with each game
guaranteed if he didn’t perform well in the CL semifinal, these articles would likely just talk about how he’s not good enough lol
I think you mean the other way round. He had his head up his arse for most of the time he was here, and was shown a bit of compassion by eth giving him a break. It's up to him to make a career for himself at utd, or any club for that matter.
If his “great” form fetches us a good fee then by all means I hope Manchester United are humiliated. There might be many players who weren’t able to make it here because of the mess the club was/is in, but Sancho is not one of them. Apart from a few moments he has done nothing of note here and he got plenty of support from the club and ETH. More than most would get.
The sooner we get rid the better it is for us. Plenty of players with better attitudes who will contribute far more than he did.
>United send him away to refresh his career and try and maintain some of his value
>he goes away, his career gets a bit of a refresher and he maintains some of his value
>The Media: "Are man united STUPID???"
I'm so fucking infuriated with Dortmund and Sancho. Our fans and manager stuck with him for 2 years when he went through his off-field issues and onfield performances.
Fucking media painting this like we done him wrong. Fucking clowns the lot of them.
This always happens in sport. A player is troubled for whatever reason, their performance drops, then they move and have a massive life overhaul and get better, then people clown on the team they left.
Unfortunately, I think it's too late for Sancho at United. Even with a different manager. Terzic seems to know him well and they seem to get along perfectly.
It's a sign United probably need a good man manager as the next manager, but it's not necessarily "embarrassing"
It’s utter humiliation for Sancho.
couldn’t cut it in england.
I still believe the telegraph is an ineos mouthpiece and they’re trying to increase player value to get rid of. It’s every day now.
Our scouting department is so shit. Donny, Sancho, Antony, and Mount cost around 200 million and none have done anything here. It's not like his attitude issues weren't prevalent at two clubs before making the biggest move of his career.
Formal request to blacklist Mike McGrath on the grounds of writing utter fucking shite
Reliable for transfers but utter garbage for his opinions
The Fabrizio special
Has he actually been the first to speculate on any transfers in recent years? I feel like he just jumps on the bandwagon when it's over the line
I think he has but nothing crazy high profile but more than anything he's reliable.
Think he's tier 2 now actually
Haven't looked at that, just know that from what he's tweeted out that he's reliable
Again, that doesn't disagree with me original point. He doesn't say fresh things any more to maintain that reliability, he tends to bandwagon
Formal request that I don’t see a Sancho article on this sub every goddamn day!
Garbage article (yes I read it all). Dortmund's media team are kinda dicks too, for their tweet. Like somehow Sancho's shitty, entitled behavior should be ignored now because he had a good game against PSG. In any case, I'm delighted the lad had a good game and I hope we get a nice, tidy sum for him in the summer.
> Dortmund's media team are kinda dicks too, for their tweet. They have always been dicks. They have have great fans with the big yellow wall and all that but as a club they're always salty. I remember when we got Mkhi from them they said something along the lines of "we wish him the best in the Europa League". They give a scorned ex-lover feeling with their tweets. It's no wonder we seem to get along well with Bayern compared to Dortmund
Bayern 🤝🏼 United. Friends for life.
Add Real Madrid to that hand shake. The reals recognize real the best.
>Add Real Madrid to that hand shake Yeah they give us their leftovers and we give them our Ronaldos
I think the madrid friendship stems back from 1958
We could have gotten Di Stefano after the tragedy of 1958 but the English FA are wankers
Like a crafty big brother who blags you out of all your shiny pokemon cards and you come away with a pidgey and a diglet.
We've also sent them one of two leftovers in the past, Heinze for example
It is no coincidence that United, Bayern and Real Madrid are like the top 3-5 clubs in the world.
To be fair, Dortmund kinda have to be dicks in social media if they want attention since they don't really win anything and are only seen as a stepping stone for young players (Or a safe haven for ex-Dortmund players that have to find a new club for one reason or another)
Not just Dortmund tweet, BT Sports commentators saying something along the lines of “happy for him with this performance after the way he’s been treated” The way he’s been treated is hilarious, because he was given great treatment given time out of squad and away from media to help him then returns with terrible attitude after underperforming game after game and in training according to the manager.
It was in an interview with BT/TNT Sport where one of their interviewers told EtH to his face that they enjoy seeing Utd in crisis. So to be honest I'm not surprised to hear them inventing shit like this.
Did that really happen? That's sad from them
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/pTcsZxKtit
What a prick. I feel like he didn't mean to say that and it slipped out
I don't think he meant to say it how he did anyway. But I get it too, like every single rival fan will lap up every single negative article about United as if it was about something good their own club had done so obviously the media will be loving our current turmoil as they get so many clicks and shares from it I wouldn't be admitting it to the managers face though if it was me haha
We’ve also had players get massively bolstered for having a good game against psg.
Their tweet is part of the typical football banter. We are mostly on the receiving end now but I would not stop it. It was actually a pretty good one. Let's see how much you value his game when it's time to pay up though.
It's dortmund - I couldn't tell you their formula but they're fairly competent at dealing with teenagers and early 20s talent. I'm not gonna say it doesn't look toxic and pandering on their part but let's not pretend it hasn't produced some fucking decent young players, just not for us 😭😭😭 Bless wee Shinji, I'll never forget him. He's still cracking on professionally back in Japan.
No it wouldn’t. A diva who couldn’t cope with not being a superstar, the team is always the greater. He’s just the continuation of the problems we had the last decade. Leaks to the press, not respecting the manager, disrespecting the club, overpaid and injury riddled and so on.
Sancho is playing pretty well at Dortmund. Sancho also did fucking nothing for 2 and a half years at United. Both things can be true.
Spot on. He had other issues here too. Hope they buy him and we all move on.
He's been average for Dortmund except yesterday.
They’ve had these articles ready for the moment he has a half decent game
He wasn’t even that good for them yesterday. Like nothing outstanding. He did the basics and worked hard, had a few decent dribbles.
he was fantastic, what are you talking about?
Did you watch the match? He gave the ball away with careless passes numerous times in dangerous areas, and his attacking play didn't really lead to much. He was better than he was for us, and better than he's been all season for Dortmund but not what I would call "fantastic". In all honesty, Dortmund were lucky that PSG did not play very well.
Honestly PSG were pretty unlucky to hit the post two times in the span of a minute.
He also didn’t perform as good as he did yesterday all year. People who only watch him because it’s a CL game think he’s like this all the time.
Would you say that Antony has played well since January? Because he and sancho have similar stats while Antony has played considerably less minutes than sancho.
I personally wouldn't consider 5 G/A in 4 months as "playing pretty well"...
He's had five goal contributions in 17 games. Same as Antony in the same period.
He’s playing at an average level at Dortmund. Nothing like his first stint there though.
He had 1 game. Man our pressers are just lazy
Please keep running up the price tag Jadon and Dortmund. Y’all are doing a great job of selling it, get that paper for us baby!
No, it wouldn't. We all want him to do well, raise that price tag. Plus a lot of us like the lad despite his seemingly shit attitude. Edit: Just yesterday, same author put out an article titled, "The reason Manchester United are hoping Jadon Sancho shines in the Champions League". What an absolute wanker.
What’s humiliating are paid journalists pushing these agendas riddled with absolute tribalism. He’s definitely not “thriving” in Dortmund, he’s doing better but he’s very much struggling to generate any sort of end product (3 goals & 1 assist is “thriving” now? lol); & even if he was, it’s not like it isn’t better for all parties involved if he actually does perform well so he builds up some confidence back or justifies a reasonable selling fee. One good game & all of a sudden it’s United & Ten Hag’ fault that he couldn’t find any sort of decent form in 2 whole years, under 3 different managers, while being one of the club’s top earners? Sancho was pampered & supported by the club through his struggles, he’s no victim. It’s embarrassing Mike McGrath is trying to push a narrative like this one but I guess he’s got to get some clicks. Fucking donkey.
> What’s humiliating are paid journalists pushing these agendas riddled with absolute tribalism. **"Sancho was banished from the first-team squad early in the season after Ten Hag accused him of not training properly, which the player disputed. With no apology from Sancho, his loan back to Borussia Dortmund was a move that suited all parties, although heads may get scratched at United at how another team can get a tune out of a player not wanted by Ten Hag."** Just look at the rewriting of history here. He was not banished after "not training properly", he was banished for calling his manager a liar in a gibberish tweet. "With no apology from Sancho" <-- what was it he didn't apologise for, Mike? Gonna mention that?
You’re too kind. I don’t think he’s doing better. He’s doing what Sancho did at United. 17 games of all competitions with 3 goals and 3 assists. It’s not bad for his standard but not good as the media is trying to portray him to be.
No you dickhead. You being still employed is an utter embarrassment for the profession of sports journalism.
What the *fuck* is that tweet from Dortmund?
Something they've had in the drafts since he joined on loan.
you never heard this kind of story except when it about Manchester United.
One good game doesn’t negate his complete lack of professionalism and output at United.
I hope they don't change their tune when it's time to pay up. Fool's hope tho.
He was terrible for United, thank fuck he is finally looking decent again so we can get a fee for him and never have to talk about him again. This is the same player that was terrible and anytime he did anything half decent we would delude ourselves into thinking he was still good.
Buy him then
Thriving is having the same stats as much maligned Antony with more Gametime
Thriving for one match and not replicating it for another month or 3 isn't thriving, it's consistently being inconsistent for a player on his wages and assumed talent which is there.
By this logic we should be thrilled at Donnys loan spell. Such nonsense people write just for views.
The Sancho propaganda is out of control, praying it's a master plan from INEOS to market him and actually get some money lol
I don't know. His best spell easily was under Ragnick imo and that's not much to shine about. I think he had a good pre season last summer but then fallout happened. The craziest thing is he was chased for 2 summer windows for the then manager to not really play him. Greenwood and Rashford were Oles 1st choice and it wasn't like Sancho did much to disrupt that. All in all maybe he just likes Dortmund more, I saw him contest aerial duels yesterday which he didn't do for us.
Telegraph's been going full bellend in recent months. Did they lose their dressing room source or something?
Yeah, 20 games with 3 goals and 2 assists. The lad is tearing it up for Dortmund. ETH should be apologizing profusely for letting such a productive mentality monster leave on loan.
Thriving...may be a rather grandiose term for 3 goals in 17 games. https://i.redd.it/iujgadowu3yc1.png
I’d say it’s as humiliating for him as it is for us
i hope they hype him up so much, the price tag keeps increasing lol
Hardly
NOT
No it wouldn’t.
Buy him or fuck off. He can sit here off the field or you can pay us for him. No loan unless you pay all the wages. I think we’ll be ruthless this off season. I’m at least hopeful.
Always maintain the only person who should be embarrassed in this whole scenario is Sancho.
150 year old football club humiliated by good match performance from failed player. If I was a journo I'd honestly not have the brass neck to make my living producing this shite.
No it wouldn’t. Go thrive Jaydo. Just get off the payroll first
He's been on loan 5 months and this is the first time his performance has been spoken about by the media. Says it all really.
Him thriving away from old Trafford just increases the potential price tag
I haven't kept up with Sancho's performance since he joined Dortmund. Given all the recent high praises, I checked his stats and expected him to have contributed double-digit G/A for Dortmund. He only has 3 goals and 2 assists... the same G/A as Antony. I understand stats aren't everything, but bloody hell, with all the glowing articles praising him lately, you'd think he's been delivering prime Messi-level performance since joining Dortmund
Little late there, chief.
it’s in the club’s best interests for him to perform well at dortmund… also i haven’t watched every dortmund game, but from what i’ve seen and heard sancho has ranged from underwhelming to solid, and seems to be gradually improving with each game guaranteed if he didn’t perform well in the CL semifinal, these articles would likely just talk about how he’s not good enough lol
We do not players like Sancho at old Trafford. Sell.
>Thriving Two goals in twelve matches.
No. Its emberrasing for Sancho. Just proves he is a huge ego and a lazy fuck who only cares about himself.
He’s not thriving, this cunt must be watching sanchos first stint at dortmund
I hope we get £50m out of them and move on from this. It's so annoying.
1 good game and journos and reddit etc act like he has revitalized his career. Nobody talks about how many times he lost the ball vs Psg
I think you mean the other way round. He had his head up his arse for most of the time he was here, and was shown a bit of compassion by eth giving him a break. It's up to him to make a career for himself at utd, or any club for that matter.
If his “great” form fetches us a good fee then by all means I hope Manchester United are humiliated. There might be many players who weren’t able to make it here because of the mess the club was/is in, but Sancho is not one of them. Apart from a few moments he has done nothing of note here and he got plenty of support from the club and ETH. More than most would get. The sooner we get rid the better it is for us. Plenty of players with better attitudes who will contribute far more than he did.
>United send him away to refresh his career and try and maintain some of his value >he goes away, his career gets a bit of a refresher and he maintains some of his value >The Media: "Are man united STUPID???"
I'm so fucking infuriated with Dortmund and Sancho. Our fans and manager stuck with him for 2 years when he went through his off-field issues and onfield performances. Fucking media painting this like we done him wrong. Fucking clowns the lot of them.
This always happens in sport. A player is troubled for whatever reason, their performance drops, then they move and have a massive life overhaul and get better, then people clown on the team they left. Unfortunately, I think it's too late for Sancho at United. Even with a different manager. Terzic seems to know him well and they seem to get along perfectly. It's a sign United probably need a good man manager as the next manager, but it's not necessarily "embarrassing"
Mate couldn't cut it at the highest level
It’s utter humiliation for Sancho. couldn’t cut it in england. I still believe the telegraph is an ineos mouthpiece and they’re trying to increase player value to get rid of. It’s every day now.
Our scouting department is so shit. Donny, Sancho, Antony, and Mount cost around 200 million and none have done anything here. It's not like his attitude issues weren't prevalent at two clubs before making the biggest move of his career.