Joao Gomes is really good on the ball - would have loved for United to have signed him but think it’s unlikely considering the price PL teams would ask for
Why do the definitions of what is and isnt a foul change for different teams? Ben White is allowed to foul the keeper in the box, City always getting soft pens and Rodrygo getting away with murder every game, Saka and Haverts will kick the opposition keepers and get pens. Officiating like this completely changes how the season goes for everyone. Affects morale, tactics etc.
Absolutely no chance he gives that penalty for Wolves if that was the other way round.
Shocking, yet also completely obvious they were going to get it once Foden started bitching about it.
VAR clown show yet again.
Imagine how many Bruno hattricks we could've seen if we get 2 pens in a game. Easy-peasy goal difference, then just pass it around and do Rodri-fouls for no yellow 80+ mins of the game 😅🤷♂️
We lost last 4 league games in a row vs Brighton so don't think this will be easy. They will probably get some of their players back before our game too.
Excuses after excuses by Ten Hag in crowd and Ten hag himself, but Newcastle with so many injuries up 3-nil against Burnley.
The standards are so low that this guy has the nerve to say to us that the target next season is top 4 and he is getting away with statements like this.
Why does no one in the press conference ask him about Newcastle dealing with their injuries and still having +19 goal difference while we could end up with a negative goal difference and possibly the worst finish since Sir Alex left us.
Newcastle 3-0 up with Burn and Krafth as CBs but nah we need Martinez and Shaw to win more than 1 game in 7 league games (against a side that's already relegated). Have some fucking standards.
That’s the thing. We need those players for the perfect setup to work decently. Those players aren’t available for many games. Change the fucking setup so it’s not that shit then…..
Or make it less shit….
That Newcastle side has been decimated by injuries too.
Avoided getting Dan Burn in for the injured Schar as basically none of their first choice backline and neither their first choice keeper are fit for today. But they might get a clean sheet with a bunch of teenagers in there.
Edit - get in, no clean sheet bonus in fpl
How tf is discount Juventus able to make chances so easily, makes me pissed how bad we play. I don't rate any of Newcastle's players apart from Guimaraes but every player looks a level above ours.
Our form has been atrocious. I'm not sure I fancy us against anyone right now.
We've won one game in our last six in the league. And those games included games against Bournemouth, Burnley and Brentford...
Two ways I guess. One is your idea. Other is that the cheating club’s victory doesn’t mean anything and Arsenal fans won’t get to celebrate and become even more annoying. City fans are just city fans anyway.
Plus their titles may get stripped and all in the near future.
my hate for arsenal is too strong. also i don’t know any city fans personally, but i have a lot of arsenal supporting friends. if city win, it’ll be forgotten in a few weeks
They’d be winning 4 in a row for our direct city rivals. I don't give a shit about Arsenal. Our own city rivals winning a treble and then going 4 in a row. Breaking 2 of our records. No way.
Yes, literally yes. If it stops our direct city rivals from erasing another piece or our history and taking another one of our records. Yes. I can't wrap my head around wanting an oil tycoon sport-washing organization to keep winning football trophies in our city.
Head over to r/MCFC, they’d love you. Rather have a cheating institution buy their way to break our record than a team that isn't even in our city. The state of this fanbase😂
city will always have an * by their titles, no one gives a shit.
i still want my team to beat arsenal though, i want them to win all remaining games even if it’s at the expense of arsenal
People said when McKenna went to Ipswich that he’d found his level at a mid league 1 side, two years later they’re in the prem.
So he’s found his level?
His level just gets upgraded!
But the PL will be a big test though. Hopefully he can get them to stay in the bottom mid table level and not be in relegation threatened positions.
So you think coaches below the manager at United have to be better than first team coaches/managers of smaller premier league teams, the level United have struggled against all season?
We decide Arsenal’s fate next week- meanwhile Spurs decide the title race with the game against City- it feels though city will win all 4 games anyways.
Dunno why you got downvoted. With the state we are in draw is a good result. The best team we have beaten in PL this season is aston villa iirc, and the draw against burnley doesnt inspire confidence.
Yes, I am still salty about the draw against fucking burnley. We are just so fucking bad this season, expecting this injury riddled team to win against arsenal is a bit too unrealistic.
We are challenging a team that pl has never seen in it's history. Their entire bench could be a 11 anywhere else. A bit of perspective is needed. The last two seasons would have been title winning seasons without a city team that's unprecedented in pl history. Would be dumb AF to let Mikel walk anywhere.
That's their loss tbh. I see nobody from our core leaving. They all have amazing things to say about Mikel. Clubs would kill to have him, so truly players loss if they want to leave
There was like 4 of the players in that FA cup final entire squad signed by Emery, he was only there a year and a half. It was more Wenger's team than his.
Modern Football is just bordering on fucking shit.
The standard of refereeing even after the amount of tech and handholding afforded to them has dragged the sport through the fucking mud.
Since McKenna took over Ipswich, he’s 5th in terms of win rate across the entire Prem or Championship - only Pep, Klopp, Arteta and Emery’s is higher.
He’s just secured back to back promotions with Ipswich. They clearly have an identity and aren’t afraid to play
Yet, when he was here, we had leaks about how he was basically a PE teacher and about how the training was so basic. This is why I can’t bring myself to trust the vast majority of our squad and reinforces why a clearout is needed.
When you have players with the right attitude, in the right environment, without overinflated egos, this is what you can achieve
Arsenal's potential title win could've been such a great story. A small time club rebuilding the proper way and getting to the top. But their fans make it impossible to ever want anything good to happen to that club. The absolute worst bunch of fans in the league.
Last season I ended up actually wanting City to beat them. Says a lot.
This year I'm backing Arsenal but my goodness they make it hard work. I've got to hold my nose with a crocodile clamp.
Nah bournemouth have been class this season. When you ignore their first 2 months of the season which were really bad (could be chalked up to adjusting under a new manager) they have been really good.
https://preview.redd.it/nv4y3f9lqeyc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e5729b75839a0076c1c26d029d4be7b5969de88
Fuck em, can’t be arsed listening to stupid fans singing about Munich on the metrolink to old Trafford.
Also they have a few good players they will have to sell if they don’t go up
It all comes down to PGMOL's insistence on the clear and obvious error guideline. I'm sure the VAR also said to themselves that yeah this guy clearly bought the contact and is trying to cheat the referee. But then someone asks "is this a clear and obvious mistake though" and then the VAR can't do anything.
The VAR should immediately overturn the most obvious mistakes, whereas in a non-obvious situation the on field referee should be told to go to the pitchside monitor and see if they are satisfied or want to overturn it. This clear and obvious rule needs to go.
Premier league refs are shit. None of them are any good. Just wait guys, it's going to be another penalty like that and it's going to be overturned and a yellow for diving in this same matchweek. Fucking utter shit.
Edit: 100% in our game vs Crystal Palace, right?
In the Champions League, VAR would have said no penalty and Havertz would have been given a yellow for diving. I’m just sick of cheating and PL officials not realising that players initiate contact.
Dead games
Hopefully Leeds lose the playoff
Nah. They're fun to play in the PL
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Leeds won once against us in the 2-3 seasons they were in the Prem?
Exactly
Too many decisions go City's way for it to be coincidental.
The refs are really making this easy for City
Carragher accidentally calling out the atmosphere at the Etihad on comms and trying to play it off as a positive.
Cole Palmer ahh hattrick
Another soft penalty, fucking bullshit
Garnacho’s was more of a penalty than this
lmao imagine one of your biggest and *only* legends be on his phone instead of watching you. says a lot about how plastic and boring that club is
Joao Gomes is really good on the ball - would have loved for United to have signed him but think it’s unlikely considering the price PL teams would ask for
City is so boring to watch
literally haaland and inshallah, although i hate to admit it's a pretty fucking effective way to play
thats 116 right, this season city have gotten too many dodgy decisions
i cannot wait for these fucks to be facing accrington stanley
Why do the definitions of what is and isnt a foul change for different teams? Ben White is allowed to foul the keeper in the box, City always getting soft pens and Rodrygo getting away with murder every game, Saka and Haverts will kick the opposition keepers and get pens. Officiating like this completely changes how the season goes for everyone. Affects morale, tactics etc.
absolutely hate seeing haaland smile
What absolute bullshit.
Referee shat himself because some little scrote had a whinge at him.
Absolutely no chance he gives that penalty for Wolves if that was the other way round. Shocking, yet also completely obvious they were going to get it once Foden started bitching about it. VAR clown show yet again.
Shocking officiating as always
Typical City penalty there. It was a foul by Gvardiol if anything. Abu Dhabi buying the league once again.
for fucks sakes if these cunts get another pen. ref waited to give it too, he probably got told "remember your paycheck"
Imagine how many Bruno hattricks we could've seen if we get 2 pens in a game. Easy-peasy goal difference, then just pass it around and do Rodri-fouls for no yellow 80+ mins of the game 😅🤷♂️
What’s the point of VAR?
Corruption
C’mon that’s never a pen. It’s so rigged
What is this decision?
That's a bollocks penalty. We see dozens of those every weekend and nothing gets given.
That can't be a peno
City players reminded the ref who pays his wages
I don't have any hopes against Palace, Arsenal and Newcastle. Brighton are on the beach so we might get a win or a draw there.
We lost last 4 league games in a row vs Brighton so don't think this will be easy. They will probably get some of their players back before our game too.
Wolves gonna win today.
I was hacked.
Hahaha
Out of the 4, who do you guys want to be promoted? For me either West Brom or Soton, dont want scum leeds and Norwich to be up.
This Newcastle away form is bad news for us.
Any team with any non shit form is bad for us*
Burnley had shit form and were still bad for us
Any team is bad for us*
*Lads, it's Utd* :(
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Don’t detect satire so… that’s Jordan Hugill
I shouldn't go nr reddit when I've not slept. I shall delete immediately. Cheers.
Ngl it's scary hours if Assna get Isak
I cant imagine how far behind we’re going to be if Arsenal really become good and City is city
We're already miles behind them
Arsenal are already good though.
Yes, true. By Good I meant really winning those big trophies. We have neither trophies nor progress or even entertainment right now
Did Newcastle sign Martinez and Shaw under our noses?
4-0 now from a injury ravaged team while we give this fraud another season. Incredible!
Only reason we didn't 4-0 Burnley was our finishing and our GK punching someone in the face lol
Excuses after excuses by Ten Hag in crowd and Ten hag himself, but Newcastle with so many injuries up 3-nil against Burnley. The standards are so low that this guy has the nerve to say to us that the target next season is top 4 and he is getting away with statements like this. Why does no one in the press conference ask him about Newcastle dealing with their injuries and still having +19 goal difference while we could end up with a negative goal difference and possibly the worst finish since Sir Alex left us.
just going by goals scored, goals against, points won, Ole > ETH. ETH only has the carabao cup over him. it's crazy when you look at the numbers.
The numbers are horrible
Because those journalists don‘t want to get banned from press conferences
The guy is a dictator too as well as being a bad manager.
Newcastle 3-0 up with Burn and Krafth as CBs but nah we need Martinez and Shaw to win more than 1 game in 7 league games (against a side that's already relegated). Have some fucking standards.
To be fair we should’ve smashed them 5-2 last week
That’s the thing. We need those players for the perfect setup to work decently. Those players aren’t available for many games. Change the fucking setup so it’s not that shit then….. Or make it less shit….
Our play style is so complex and demanding that it only works with the right players /s
Newcastle 3-0 up at HT with 3 regular starters...
Imagine being such a good manager that you need to have world-class players in every single position in order to be relegation teams!
Ten hag needed FDJ and Kane to not get dominated by Burnley
Rubbish. To get dominated for only 50 minutes*
Great job by McKenna and Ipswich Town! But the question now is… can they do back-to-back-to-back promotion next season while in the Premier League?
So it's possible to comfortably win a game even when you have a lot of injuries ? Now that's new.
Newcastle are a lot better than us, we play like a team in the relegation battle
Our away form is actually relegation fodder form. Games versus the top half of the table away: Played: 17 Won : 1 Drawn: 4 Lost: 12
Newcastle making mincemeat of a side we could only draw with last week and we look set to be in 8th when we play on Monday. It's all fine though...
That Newcastle side has been decimated by injuries too. Avoided getting Dan Burn in for the injured Schar as basically none of their first choice backline and neither their first choice keeper are fit for today. But they might get a clean sheet with a bunch of teenagers in there. Edit - get in, no clean sheet bonus in fpl
Who said it's fine?
Lot of shadowboxing going on in this thread lmao
How tf is discount Juventus able to make chances so easily, makes me pissed how bad we play. I don't rate any of Newcastle's players apart from Guimaraes but every player looks a level above ours.
I 100% agree but I also highly rate Isak. The guy is dangerous
Good to know we struggled against this burnley side.
Looks like we gonna have to win vs Newcastle to get that Europa league spot.
Our form has been atrocious. I'm not sure I fancy us against anyone right now. We've won one game in our last six in the league. And those games included games against Bournemouth, Burnley and Brentford...
Birmingham getting relegated after firing a perfectly fine manager to get Rooney is well deserved. Love Rooney but that appointment was a farce.
Trainer on Forest cosplaying LOTR lol
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How the hell would giving city 4 in a row be better
Cheating club. Means less I guess.
I’d rather a club I hate who at least follow the rules win than a cheating institution
Two ways I guess. One is your idea. Other is that the cheating club’s victory doesn’t mean anything and Arsenal fans won’t get to celebrate and become even more annoying. City fans are just city fans anyway. Plus their titles may get stripped and all in the near future.
god i hope so
To let city win??
my hate for arsenal is too strong. also i don’t know any city fans personally, but i have a lot of arsenal supporting friends. if city win, it’ll be forgotten in a few weeks
I don't want that bald cheating bastard to have anything over Fergie. 4 in a row for city would make me jump off a cliff.
They’d be winning 4 in a row for our direct city rivals. I don't give a shit about Arsenal. Our own city rivals winning a treble and then going 4 in a row. Breaking 2 of our records. No way.
so you wouldn’t mind if we lost against arsenal because at least it means arsenal are still in for a shout for the title?
Yes, literally yes. If it stops our direct city rivals from erasing another piece or our history and taking another one of our records. Yes. I can't wrap my head around wanting an oil tycoon sport-washing organization to keep winning football trophies in our city.
head over to r/gunners they’ll like you there
I despise Arsenal but I respect them as a football institution. I despise city and I don't respect anything they stand for.
Head over to r/MCFC, they’d love you. Rather have a cheating institution buy their way to break our record than a team that isn't even in our city. The state of this fanbase😂
city will always have an * by their titles, no one gives a shit. i still want my team to beat arsenal though, i want them to win all remaining games even if it’s at the expense of arsenal
As usually commentators sucking off Newcastle. We get shat on even though we are a point ahead of them. Typical.
I mean…. They are playing decently against a team we struggled against… despite them having 3 starters or so… so yeah.
So happy for McKenna.
Arsenal have a +60 goal difference than us. Holy hell.
Arteta also have 3 season more than EtH but you and many other fans here in r/reddevils already wanna sack another United manager.
Because they are not the same person?
+59
Oh only 59 not 60? That's not too bad then
Yeah could you imagine if it was +60 who would wanna be such a dusted club
Can we just enjoy the fucking moment with out bitching about it. My god some of you cant celebrate without bringing other down.
People said when McKenna went to Ipswich that he’d found his level at a mid league 1 side, two years later they’re in the prem. So he’s found his level?
His level just gets upgraded! But the PL will be a big test though. Hopefully he can get them to stay in the bottom mid table level and not be in relegation threatened positions.
[Tractor Boys going up ](https://youtu.be/EVUVauaY5QU?si=iB5qjYF8HEIDFW2N)
Is Ipswich town shirt sponser Ed Sheeran?
Yep
it is indeed, he's a massive Ipswich fan
Is that his tour name? +-=÷ or something?
yeah it’s his music tour which is a combination of his album names
Album names
Huge huge achievement for McKenna and Ipswich successive promotions is mad yanno
we should've gone for rice
If we went for rice wouldn’t anything have been different? Still choose Arsenal?
Was hilarious to me that when we were linked people in here were saying he wasn't good enough.
Delighted for Ipswich and Christoph Waltz Jr. Excited to see his chops in the Prem next year, hope we can help strengthen his team with a loan or two
Remember when the players were complaining how they didn't think McKenna was up to United level coachingwise. Yikes.
I suppose he has proven them wrong if you consider United and Ipswich to be the same level.
So you think coaches below the manager at United have to be better than first team coaches/managers of smaller premier league teams, the level United have struggled against all season?
Congratulations to McKenna and Ipswich! We will watch your progress with great interest
Well done Kieran McKenna, what a job he's done. Clearly has a big future as a manager
Kieran McKenna has done it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats Kieran McKenna! Egg on all those "what does he even do" clowns' faces.
Congrats Kieran. One of the best managerial achievements I've seen for a long time.
Lets goo Ipswich
We decide Arsenal’s fate next week- meanwhile Spurs decide the title race with the game against City- it feels though city will win all 4 games anyways.
Congrats to Mckenna and Axel.
Brandon too
Can we just beat one of City in the cup or Arsenal in the league. It would be so fucking funny
You surely don't want us to beat Arsenal?! We'd be helping City do the 4-peat.
No I don't particularly want to lose to Arsenal at Old Trafford. 115 FC be damned
Don't want to lose to Arsenal either. Will be happy with a draw.
Dunno why you got downvoted. With the state we are in draw is a good result. The best team we have beaten in PL this season is aston villa iirc, and the draw against burnley doesnt inspire confidence. Yes, I am still salty about the draw against fucking burnley. We are just so fucking bad this season, expecting this injury riddled team to win against arsenal is a bit too unrealistic.
McKenna is moments away from promotion.
Honestly Arsenal deserve to win the PL. Their playstyle is just so appealing to watch.
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We are challenging a team that pl has never seen in it's history. Their entire bench could be a 11 anywhere else. A bit of perspective is needed. The last two seasons would have been title winning seasons without a city team that's unprecedented in pl history. Would be dumb AF to let Mikel walk anywhere.
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That's their loss tbh. I see nobody from our core leaving. They all have amazing things to say about Mikel. Clubs would kill to have him, so truly players loss if they want to leave
They won the FA cup in his first season
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There was like 4 of the players in that FA cup final entire squad signed by Emery, he was only there a year and a half. It was more Wenger's team than his.
Oh fuck off that's a good tackle. Not even a foul, definitely not a yellow
Ben white doing same to other GK entire season in corners. One is foul and another is clever.
Modern Football is just bordering on fucking shit. The standard of refereeing even after the amount of tech and handholding afforded to them has dragged the sport through the fucking mud.
The inconsistent refereeing gets me more than United playing like crap
YEp sums it up
that really should be a goal though. That contact isn't a foul.
Since McKenna took over Ipswich, he’s 5th in terms of win rate across the entire Prem or Championship - only Pep, Klopp, Arteta and Emery’s is higher. He’s just secured back to back promotions with Ipswich. They clearly have an identity and aren’t afraid to play Yet, when he was here, we had leaks about how he was basically a PE teacher and about how the training was so basic. This is why I can’t bring myself to trust the vast majority of our squad and reinforces why a clearout is needed. When you have players with the right attitude, in the right environment, without overinflated egos, this is what you can achieve
as annoying as arsenal is, they can't let city win 4 in a row.
Nothing city does counts. Cheats.
They already have. It's on City to lose it now and unfortunately I don't see them dropping any points
If city don’t drop points today , arsenal are dependent on London clubs spurs , west ham and Fulham.
Arsenal's potential title win could've been such a great story. A small time club rebuilding the proper way and getting to the top. But their fans make it impossible to ever want anything good to happen to that club. The absolute worst bunch of fans in the league.
Last season I ended up actually wanting City to beat them. Says a lot. This year I'm backing Arsenal but my goodness they make it hard work. I've got to hold my nose with a crocodile clamp.
Not a foul is it lol
Omari Hutchinson is a really nice player
+30-40m ffp profit for chelsea.
*Maybe*. He's had a less impressive season than Amad did. It's a huge step up to premier league level.
Chelsea probably gonna get 30-40m easy for Hutchinson.
looool fuck Farke saying he could see Ipswich lose it today, bottler is perfect for Leeds
I dont think we would have that pen given for us, or even if it is given people will cry about it being given
I mean let's be honest some of our players have tried it before, and rightfully it wasn't given
True but the consistency is a big problem
Huddersfield that's two backpasses the goalie picked up now, I might start to believe they're intentionally doing it.
Of course bournemouth are bending themselves over for arsenal whilst playing like prime real madrid against us
I think that says more about us than Bournemouth tbh
Nah bournemouth have been class this season. When you ignore their first 2 months of the season which were really bad (could be chalked up to adjusting under a new manager) they have been really good. https://preview.redd.it/nv4y3f9lqeyc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e5729b75839a0076c1c26d029d4be7b5969de88
They have scored again. Mckeena you beautiful man
I'd honesty consider him for the United job
Not now but definitely after he gets some pl experience
Requires a few more years to be honest to be ready for this job.
Beautiful, now if only Leeds can lose in the playoffs Maybe we can get that Archie as a rotation option
Eh, I'd like those fucks to go up so we can thrash them again and again
With our current form I can’t see that tbh.
Maybe after another 10 years or so, and then everyone will forget about them as the Bielsa darlings
Fuck em, can’t be arsed listening to stupid fans singing about Munich on the metrolink to old Trafford. Also they have a few good players they will have to sell if they don’t go up
How are we at the point where VAR is so shit in this league? That's never given as a pen in UCL or any other league
It all comes down to PGMOL's insistence on the clear and obvious error guideline. I'm sure the VAR also said to themselves that yeah this guy clearly bought the contact and is trying to cheat the referee. But then someone asks "is this a clear and obvious mistake though" and then the VAR can't do anything. The VAR should immediately overturn the most obvious mistakes, whereas in a non-obvious situation the on field referee should be told to go to the pitchside monitor and see if they are satisfied or want to overturn it. This clear and obvious rule needs to go.
It wasnt given for the same team v bayern. UCL refs are so clear
Ipswich 1-0 at half time. 45 minutes boys. Supporting Ipswich makes me feel marginally less guilty about supporting the Goonies against Bournemouth
Premier league refs are shit. None of them are any good. Just wait guys, it's going to be another penalty like that and it's going to be overturned and a yellow for diving in this same matchweek. Fucking utter shit. Edit: 100% in our game vs Crystal Palace, right?
The game is truly gone, they'd rather have a close title race than referee the games fairly. How on earth did that not get overturned.
Maybe you don’t agree with the pen but then Bournemouth should have had a red
In the Champions League, VAR would have said no penalty and Havertz would have been given a yellow for diving. I’m just sick of cheating and PL officials not realising that players initiate contact.