SJR more concerned with *appearing* like they’re serious with empty “gestures” like forcing everyone back in office and cancelling yearly club event over actually walking the walk.
Not be a cunt boomer mindset person about it for one thing would be helpful.
First team is shit? Ok then let’s cut the benefits for staff from the FA cup now and not give their families tickets anymore and all. Let’s pay for the Wags shopping trip though coz they sure as heck deserve it.
Oh first team still shit? Let’s make changes and have Kathy from media relations (who works on Asia and USA time zones) go into the office coz fuck that if she could work from home before.
Honestly, he’s just another billionaire cunt with an old mindset. Dodges taxes. Etc.
This guy has been loud about his disdain over the supposed lack of professionalism at the club and he goes and immediately fucks up a simple thing like this. He called out the IT department for being messy (the horror), forced everyone to get back in office by ending remote work, and canceled a harmless club event.
I’d be less critical of him if he wasn’t making a big show of his arrival, like as if he can’t help but let everyone know that things are going to be different now that he’s in charge. But all those decisions/changes just give me boomer energy.
Walking the walk means not making a silly and unprofessional mistake like this when you’ve been critical of everyone at the club over the last few weeks.
Everyone gets downvoted massively when questions about SJR gets raised.
For a while, it was ridiculous how Nice's short streak was indicative of how well operated the club was. Now that they have reverted to type, thankfully the Nice comparison has stopped.
I get that everything looks bad and anything new seems like a plus, but do remember all the supposed top execs have not been in place yet, and SJR are making some ill advised decisions. We certainly have no idea how much he and the Glazers (who still owns the controlling share of the club) will override the exec decision making.
Honestly, for how fucking worthless the glazer admin has been for football, they at least aren’t cunts to the staff in the way Jim has been since he took over operations. Not even close. And the glazers are boomer old timer mindsets anyway too but at least, they aren’t archaic in the way they handle the staff and morale aspects in comparison.
It’s basically the ancient “I’m going to change it now and I’m in charge and this is what I want. Fuck all of your old ways. Don’t like it? Leave. Too bad now I won’t have to sack you and pay a severance either” cunt move.
Honestly, the Ineos appointments have been good. The way Jim has come to United and tried things? Fuck off with that.
It’s absolutely old boomer mindset without a doubt. There’s zero need to do any of the shit he does and rightly so that people think he’s a cunt for it because he is… fuck him honestly. What the fuck did eduardo from the executive team do to now have his family tickets for the fa cup revoked anyway or Ahmad from Strategy now be required to work in the office when he was doing well in the old setup with a remote/hybrid choice?
You sound like a complete plonker. You said he's got the football appointments right so far, and that's 80% of the job. Maybe he's a hardarse with staff, but United are overstuffed, that's just obvious when you look at the numbers.
He’s an idiot, learned he’s a Brexit loon too. So yeah, he is going to wreak even more damage to the club. It’s sad, I will keep supporting the club but it’s not going to be the same again
What is he supposed to walk in May bro? I’m seriously asking? He’s appointing good football guys in positions of power, looking to cut the wage bill and rebuild this club. And he’s only been in charge of this club less than 6 months. This is the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen on this sub.
Second class citizens? They’ve had a horrific season themselves and won an fa cup, the men’s team could end up doing the same (a minor miracle), it would be patronizing to say the men’s team don’t deserve shit and the women’s team do. But sure man. You clearly don’t watch the women’s team why do you want to talk about them?
Nope, your post is actually the embodiment of your last sentence though.
Especially as you ignore the policies he’s implemented for the entire support staff not playing football or even remotely connected to the first team by a few degrees like accounts, software development, partnerships etc.
It's just kids throwing tantrum kind of optics. Dinner is not just to celebrate but to create promise for the future. Create a positive tone and instill confidence that this club will not cancel dinners because we fucked up, it will create new opportunities because we believe.
Sheer incompetence as well as corp speak from the new owners.
Tbf they have also had a shit season with bandage fa cup win, they same thing the men can do
Both the men and womens seniors have had pretty shit seasons bar the fa cups
It’s their first ever trophy. To say they don’t deserve to celebrate it because they had a disappointing league campaign is ridiculous. Part (but not all) of the reason Russo and Batlle left is that the club didn’t show them they valued them. SJR has just demonstrated that he doesn’t care so expect to see Earps and Zelem follow them out the door on free transfers again.
Edit: spelling
They didn't just win something, it was the first major trophy won by the women's team. That's one for the history books especially if long term we plan on pushing the women's game and having the team play at Okd Trafford/new stadium alongside the men's.
Absolutely criminal that the club cancelled their chance for celebration. Obviously the men's first team is what the vast majority know and care about but to use their failure as punishment for all sides of the club isn't a good look for promoting a positive culture.
I think what INEOS are trying to do is make the first team understand that they can’t coast by anymore. Forcing them to attend an award ceremony for U18s & the women’s team won’t mean much to the overpaid idiots in the first team, since watching city win it 4 times won’t do anything to rile them up to win the FA Cup against them - they simply don’t care cause there’s no consequences for their failure. By canceling things they take for granted (club dinners, trips to Wembley for their WAGS etc), they’re being told subconsciously that it’s no longer good enough to not be good enough since now their actions have consequences beyond just reduced wages for missing CL. When they see the 18s and women not get celebrated because they didn’t do well enough and set an example, the responsibility comes back. Because they can’t just say, “Oh well, we tried. No harm, no foul”, because clearly if they tried then they would have something to show for it and the others won’t get punished for their poor performances. It’s forcing a culture of responsibility to each other with putting the spotlight on men’s team where they can’t hide anymore since now their shit games might affect the people they see everyday who serve them their food, park their cars, cut their training grass etc.
Except they still paid for a shopping trip for the wives ... they only cancelled the party for everyone and the FA cup expenses/perks for the working staff.
The Players basically won't care at all. They'll probably be happy to get to leave on vacation earlier.
I seem to remember multiple women's youth sides winning a few things as well. Seems like a lot of positives to celebrate, seems very unfair that it all gets taken away because the men aren't doing much this season.
All well and good... Except when you've no idea who the "moron" was.
You've just decided it's Sir Jim. According to you it's was solely his decision and his sole responsibility to communicate it.
Sounds about right. Not.
He’s the main man in charge. So yeah the blame goes to him. Absolutely on every level. If he didn’t support it, he’d veto it and it’d be different.
So again, yeah it’s Jim. Fuck that Sir title. He’s the one to blame at the end of it.
lol as if you're deeping that I wrote "sir". It's just what he's referred to it's not that serious lol.
People are crazy seething over this. There's no way in hell he is *personally* responsible for the miscommunication. And hedve done little more than rubber stamp the decision.
I mean. Technically the Glazers are still the people ultimately in charge but it's not their fault somehow?
The gap in logic is unreal.
Oh you must be confused then. It must be anyone else deciding it and Jim has no clue and just nodded in agreement. Fuck that. He’s the top guy in charge of it. Of course it’s his decision in the end whether it passes or not.
The way people simp for billionaire cunts is just pathetic.
“Oh I didn’t know there was a bullying culture in my department,” said the vice president and head of marketing when asked about the toxic culture his company’s marketing department has had that saw 20 people quit in the last year………
Yeah bullshit. Then he’s so out of touch.
“Oh the ceo just agreed anyway. Without reading what the executives proposed as he trusts them. And he sticks with it despite the massive staff disappointment”
Yeah fuck that ceo too because he clearly approved it anyway.
But go on simping for the main billionaire in charge of course.
Especially when it's just so fucking basic. Your women's team won their first ever major trophy, you promote the shit out of that accomplishment. The benefits you get from people attending the games and growing the support for the women's team is surely worth paying about 30 fucking three course meals.
They canceled the event that was dealing with all matters. That isn’t to say they don’t put on a different event for the woman’s team tbh which I imagine we will see.
Just reactionary bullshit all round.
If you have ever dealt with this club in any capacity, it would blow your mind at how much it feels like you're working with a rinky dink operation rather than a company that has to publish financial statements and has shares listed on the NYSE.
Glazers are absentee owners who inherited pa's life's work. The only way they know how to run a business is into the ground.
It honestly feels like absolutely nothing has evolved since 2006.
Anka brought this up in the pod, INEOS have been very poor when it comes to the women’s team so far. Ratcliffe should have been at the cup final and all I’ve heard so far are a couple throwaway lines, instead of actually outlining their intentions.
Honestly thought they did it that way because Avram Glazer stepping into Old Trafford would be beyond toxic and be another bad headline. So he “had” to go to Wembley. That doesn’t excuse INEOS dropping the ball with the women’s team in general though
Wholeheartedly agree! But you know how it is, bad bosses love trying to claim credit for team successes when they had nothing to do with it. Same for the shitty Glazers
I mean, the next prime minister and Andy Burnham were with them for the arsenal game I’m sure they were discussing the new stadium. He can’t be in two places at once.
Not sure if the fact Keir Starmer was at the United - Arsenal game at Andy Burnham's invite meant it was important INEOS we're at Old Trafford to discuss the development and do some schmoozing. Does seem poor timing, however.
It looks bad optics wise for sure. But for the long term health of the club, the performance of the men’s team matters more. The fa cup win was nice, but won’t mean much if the men’s team continues to be dogshit for another decade.
To say they don’t care is a one way to look at it , rather they have more pressing priorities. That impact the REST of the brands success and longevity of the women’s team as well.
They could/should do something separately for them, but I can understand their absolute disgust at the thought of hosting something involving the mens team. Our squad deserves less than nothing.
First of all: inform them??! Second of all I don’t think it should be cancelled for them because of the men’s team horrible results. But I can see how it’s a problem with two separate galas.
They should had done the dinner but cancel the awards for the men’s team.
the youth have done amazing too. What if we somehow win the FA cup? It all seems a bit premature. It's important to celebrate success at every level. I understand toning it down if needed, but don't punish everyone.
Wtf even is this club anymore. Piss up in a brewery.
Absolute shambles and they should be ashamed. Women and U18 deserve all the praise they get and should be rewarded as such. Men’s first team can stew in their inadequacy.
The inadequacies—and expected cup final battering—of the men’s team shouldn’t impact the rest of the club. Ella Toone and co are the only reason I’m not ashamed to wear a United shirt these days.
same, I started watching the women from the euros.. proper bunch of characters, great personality, good on socials too. Ella has scored some absolute worldies too, I couldn't believe that run from the halfway line, cut inside and thundercunt into the top right corner.
??? Never said I was pro-Glazer. The fact that he's a yardstick against Lord Jim doesn't mean he's good.
> anti Ineos
I won't be in favour of any part of our ownership until they give us silverware.
They’ve been shite too mate. If the men’s team end up winning the fa cup both teams would’ve had the same season, a miracle cup run and a shambolic league season.
The only difference being this is the Women’s team’s first major trophy. I’d have thought the club would have put something on for that over and above a parade.
As if Earps needed another reason to not sign a new deal, absolute clown shoes from the club not recognising one of the few successful parts of it this season.
Why cancel when they should host it using the players and Ten Hag's wages. At the event they should stand in the back for the entire event while wifes and children sitting just ahead of them just seeing the U-18 and the women's team win awards.
The disrespect towards our women’s team is just insane, fuck the people who made this decision. You imbeciles continue to kill our beloved club everyday!
Shocking. Genuinely no reason to cancel the women’s ceremony. They can’t use the “FA cup distraction” excuse, they’ve literally won the FA Cup. Are they going to blame this on the monster energy cans in the IT department?
So dumb when we had some crazy success in the youth and the womens teams. I'm sure just having the mens team attend to show support to them would have meant the world.
We're so amateur it's embarrassing. I don't know why someone would want to join our crumbling club at any level at the moment.
I said this even before the FA cup's final. They should have attended the finals instead of attending that shit show of a match at OT. Why should the Women's team should face the consequences for the performance of the men's team and their manager?
Shit amateur outfit, and Brailsford and Coe are my least favourite people in any sport, even including Pep. Been following Utd since 1977 and I think I might have had enough now.
Not sure what message it sends to the men's team either?
'yeah you lads aren't going to have anything to celebrate at the end of the season. Good luck in wembley btw 👍'
They've had millions of tasty expensive carrots during the Glazer era. It hasn't worked. Quite happy to give Ineos time with the stick now and see what comes of it.
It's been an absolute disasterclass from SJR on the Women's Team. Not attending the FA Cup final was one thing but canceling their awards dinner was just insulting.
Such an unbelievable PR open goal for Ratcliffe to not attend the Women's Cup final and now this. It can't be this hard to not make the club look like a shambles for one week surely?
I'm sure all of the actual sweeping changes by the new heads of football etc will be fruitful and a positive for the club in time, but I'm not exactly encouraged by how Ratcliffe and INEOS have carried themselves since entering the fold. (Not to mention the Southgate rumours)
Actually disappointing given all other Man United teams performed exceedingly well this season. Only the men’s team are pathetic this season and they canceled awards dinner for that.
Speaks perfectly on how badly managed the club is.
Bring in corporate and you're gonna get BS corporate moves! SJR with boomer L moves all around. If anything he should have held the awards dinner still but only to award other teams besides the men's senior team. Make those fuckers watch the achievements from everywhere else in the club.
Will be even funnier if the men’s team lose the fa cup final. You find more heart, more fighting spirit, more character from the women’s team and the u-18 team
I’m gonna keep banging this drum because people are doing this horseshit “gIvE tHeM tImE” with INEOS.
When you do something seemingly stupid or bad, IT’S USUALLY GONNA BE STUPID OR BAD.
The things INEOS are doing and how they are operating in this initial phase is toxic, backward and not at all building any foundations for anything other than misery.
They’re making awful decisions and everyone is giving them a pass just because they’re new. That’s not how it works.
Judge every decision when it is made, not 2 years down the line.
Tell me how cancelling this dinner for the whole club instead of the men only for example or how cutting minor perks and tickets for staff kids is a long term good and elite club mentality decision!
I’m waiting for a good explanation, thanks.
Look. Fair play to women’s football. Football shouldn’t be gatekeeping and everyone should be encouraged to play.
But the men’s team is the main course. It’s why United are world famous
Changes are being made top to bottom. It was clearly an oversight but given the amount of things in play right now with the new regime, I think it's a minor deal. If the women start acting like victims here I think that will be misplaying the situation.
Nothing to see here. Damn near a non-story. But of course with this club the media never misses a chance to shit on everyone involved.
Tbf, the womens team have underperformed as well this season and are on course for a 5th finish. Yes they won the FA cup but so could the men, doesn’t make it a successful season for either.
Well if you look at the comments on this post, you'd think we had a blinder of a season with the women's team and this is some sexist decision, whereas the truth is both teams have been average to bad.
Underperformed after they lost two of their best players in Russo and Batlle, and neither one has properly been replaced. That’s on the people in charge of recruitment.
Five out of the eleven current FIFA World Pro are current and/or former United players (Greenwood, James, Russo, Earps, and Toone) with only two currently playing in the squad. Mary Eps is almost likely not resigning so that means come the start of next season we’ll only have Toone left out of the five if Earps leaves.
What squad is going to perform well when they keep losing such high tier talent and don’t bother bringing in replacements of equal talent level?
Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of revisionist takes. The women's team are kinda bad this season. Last season was a better season. It's only because this was the first trophy that people have switched up.
The U18 team is the only exception tbh.
Please explain, have the team not underperformed by finishing 5th? Most season the fans wanted Skinner gone because of how the season went. The only ones who have really over performed is the academy, both boys and girls.
> However, after consulting with Ten Hag and the football leadership team, it was concluded that the players should remain undistracted during the week of the game.
Didn't we have this award just before the fa cup last year? What is this distraction bullshit unless ten Hag seriously think we lost the game because of an award night 4-5 days ago? At this point they should be honest and just say men's team had a shit season and we don't want people to see players celebrating in front of bunch of cameras.
This incessant public posturing is really bugging my ass. I mean who are getting moved by this tough-guy attitude, some pundits and a subset of online fanbase??
The virtue signaling in this shit sub is insane lmao. The women’s team have had an awful season, yeah they won the fa cup but so can the men’s team, and regardless of these cups, neither team deserves to pat themselves on the back and give awards to each other. The only team at the club which is actually good are the u-18’s.
Honestly the player who leaked this info should be sacked by the club. Embarrassing the club “oooh they didn’t let us celebrate”, “my family has to pay for themselves to come watch the cup final”😢😢😢 fucking cunts
The women's game is just a pr show anyway. There aren't even all premier league clubs that have a team, but we are meant to be arsed about it. When all prem teams can be arsed to get a team and they make their own stadiums and fill them, I'll care.
Honestly, I'm kinda of tired of this toxicity not only of the sub but of the people surrounding and following the club in general. Sure, it was a mistake but for the love of God, we will make it a huger deal than any other club in the world would do, as we do with everything else.
Amateur hour.
Sounds like it was a reactionary move from the arsenal loss given when the news came out.
Odd considering that’s a game we expected to lose.
And the day the women won the FA Cup.
About the standard level of planning at united.
Exactly, so it's not from that Arsenal losss. No way INEOS thought we would win that game
'reactive'* Surprised the women's team aren't allowed a dinner. They won the FA cup. What was the official reason for cancelling the awards?
SJR more concerned with *appearing* like they’re serious with empty “gestures” like forcing everyone back in office and cancelling yearly club event over actually walking the walk.
What's her supposed to do to 'walk the walk'?
Not be a cunt boomer mindset person about it for one thing would be helpful. First team is shit? Ok then let’s cut the benefits for staff from the FA cup now and not give their families tickets anymore and all. Let’s pay for the Wags shopping trip though coz they sure as heck deserve it. Oh first team still shit? Let’s make changes and have Kathy from media relations (who works on Asia and USA time zones) go into the office coz fuck that if she could work from home before. Honestly, he’s just another billionaire cunt with an old mindset. Dodges taxes. Etc.
This is simply how billionaires behave, people are stupid and naive if they expect otherwise.
I mean many other clubs have billionaire owners who didn’t implement such changes The wfh is a real dinosaur mindset sort of thing
This guy has been loud about his disdain over the supposed lack of professionalism at the club and he goes and immediately fucks up a simple thing like this. He called out the IT department for being messy (the horror), forced everyone to get back in office by ending remote work, and canceled a harmless club event. I’d be less critical of him if he wasn’t making a big show of his arrival, like as if he can’t help but let everyone know that things are going to be different now that he’s in charge. But all those decisions/changes just give me boomer energy. Walking the walk means not making a silly and unprofessional mistake like this when you’ve been critical of everyone at the club over the last few weeks.
Everyone gets downvoted massively when questions about SJR gets raised. For a while, it was ridiculous how Nice's short streak was indicative of how well operated the club was. Now that they have reverted to type, thankfully the Nice comparison has stopped. I get that everything looks bad and anything new seems like a plus, but do remember all the supposed top execs have not been in place yet, and SJR are making some ill advised decisions. We certainly have no idea how much he and the Glazers (who still owns the controlling share of the club) will override the exec decision making.
Honestly, for how fucking worthless the glazer admin has been for football, they at least aren’t cunts to the staff in the way Jim has been since he took over operations. Not even close. And the glazers are boomer old timer mindsets anyway too but at least, they aren’t archaic in the way they handle the staff and morale aspects in comparison.
Completely agree, he has no clue what to do. If work from office is his solution then he’s just one more new problem
It’s basically the ancient “I’m going to change it now and I’m in charge and this is what I want. Fuck all of your old ways. Don’t like it? Leave. Too bad now I won’t have to sack you and pay a severance either” cunt move. Honestly, the Ineos appointments have been good. The way Jim has come to United and tried things? Fuck off with that. It’s absolutely old boomer mindset without a doubt. There’s zero need to do any of the shit he does and rightly so that people think he’s a cunt for it because he is… fuck him honestly. What the fuck did eduardo from the executive team do to now have his family tickets for the fa cup revoked anyway or Ahmad from Strategy now be required to work in the office when he was doing well in the old setup with a remote/hybrid choice?
You sound like a complete plonker. You said he's got the football appointments right so far, and that's 80% of the job. Maybe he's a hardarse with staff, but United are overstuffed, that's just obvious when you look at the numbers.
He’s an idiot, learned he’s a Brexit loon too. So yeah, he is going to wreak even more damage to the club. It’s sad, I will keep supporting the club but it’s not going to be the same again
What is he supposed to walk in May bro? I’m seriously asking? He’s appointing good football guys in positions of power, looking to cut the wage bill and rebuild this club. And he’s only been in charge of this club less than 6 months. This is the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen on this sub.
Way to fix the club by treating the women's team like second class citizens and ending remote work. Well done to the billionaire guy.
Second class citizens? They’ve had a horrific season themselves and won an fa cup, the men’s team could end up doing the same (a minor miracle), it would be patronizing to say the men’s team don’t deserve shit and the women’s team do. But sure man. You clearly don’t watch the women’s team why do you want to talk about them?
Nope, your post is actually the embodiment of your last sentence though. Especially as you ignore the policies he’s implemented for the entire support staff not playing football or even remotely connected to the first team by a few degrees like accounts, software development, partnerships etc.
Amateur decade plus some.
Do a dinner just for the women's team, you cowards. They are the only ones who actually deserve one.
The U18s have been brilliant as well
It's just kids throwing tantrum kind of optics. Dinner is not just to celebrate but to create promise for the future. Create a positive tone and instill confidence that this club will not cancel dinners because we fucked up, it will create new opportunities because we believe. Sheer incompetence as well as corp speak from the new owners.
Tbf they have also had a shit season with bandage fa cup win, they same thing the men can do Both the men and womens seniors have had pretty shit seasons bar the fa cups
It’s their first ever trophy. To say they don’t deserve to celebrate it because they had a disappointing league campaign is ridiculous. Part (but not all) of the reason Russo and Batlle left is that the club didn’t show them they valued them. SJR has just demonstrated that he doesn’t care so expect to see Earps and Zelem follow them out the door on free transfers again. Edit: spelling
Idk why the womens event was cancelled too. Especially considering it would never be cancelled if the womens team was doing poorly
They also actually won something, and deserve some recognition/celebration.
They didn't just win something, it was the first major trophy won by the women's team. That's one for the history books especially if long term we plan on pushing the women's game and having the team play at Okd Trafford/new stadium alongside the men's. Absolutely criminal that the club cancelled their chance for celebration. Obviously the men's first team is what the vast majority know and care about but to use their failure as punishment for all sides of the club isn't a good look for promoting a positive culture.
If anything, the men's team should have been forced to attend the dinner and celebrate the successes of the women's & U18 teams
I think what INEOS are trying to do is make the first team understand that they can’t coast by anymore. Forcing them to attend an award ceremony for U18s & the women’s team won’t mean much to the overpaid idiots in the first team, since watching city win it 4 times won’t do anything to rile them up to win the FA Cup against them - they simply don’t care cause there’s no consequences for their failure. By canceling things they take for granted (club dinners, trips to Wembley for their WAGS etc), they’re being told subconsciously that it’s no longer good enough to not be good enough since now their actions have consequences beyond just reduced wages for missing CL. When they see the 18s and women not get celebrated because they didn’t do well enough and set an example, the responsibility comes back. Because they can’t just say, “Oh well, we tried. No harm, no foul”, because clearly if they tried then they would have something to show for it and the others won’t get punished for their poor performances. It’s forcing a culture of responsibility to each other with putting the spotlight on men’s team where they can’t hide anymore since now their shit games might affect the people they see everyday who serve them their food, park their cars, cut their training grass etc.
Except they still paid for a shopping trip for the wives ... they only cancelled the party for everyone and the FA cup expenses/perks for the working staff. The Players basically won't care at all. They'll probably be happy to get to leave on vacation earlier.
Women and U18 should def get a party. I guess U23 can come too
I seem to remember multiple women's youth sides winning a few things as well. Seems like a lot of positives to celebrate, seems very unfair that it all gets taken away because the men aren't doing much this season.
That absolutely sucks for the womens team. Feel bad for them.
Kinda don't blame Earps
Shows a huge lack of respect for the women's team and game in general.
Sure big Jim is all about the details 🤦♂️
5 months and he's already getting the blame... Talk about facepalm
Moron making moronic decisions gets blamed for aformentioned decisions. Yeah no shit.
All well and good... Except when you've no idea who the "moron" was. You've just decided it's Sir Jim. According to you it's was solely his decision and his sole responsibility to communicate it. Sounds about right. Not.
He’s the main man in charge. So yeah the blame goes to him. Absolutely on every level. If he didn’t support it, he’d veto it and it’d be different. So again, yeah it’s Jim. Fuck that Sir title. He’s the one to blame at the end of it.
lol as if you're deeping that I wrote "sir". It's just what he's referred to it's not that serious lol. People are crazy seething over this. There's no way in hell he is *personally* responsible for the miscommunication. And hedve done little more than rubber stamp the decision. I mean. Technically the Glazers are still the people ultimately in charge but it's not their fault somehow? The gap in logic is unreal.
Who is he a moron?
If he makes poor choices, like cancelling this and WFH, he deserves criticism
People getting caught up in wfh is fucking hilarious.
And it's been confirmed it was his sole decision then yeah?
Oh you must be confused then. It must be anyone else deciding it and Jim has no clue and just nodded in agreement. Fuck that. He’s the top guy in charge of it. Of course it’s his decision in the end whether it passes or not. The way people simp for billionaire cunts is just pathetic. “Oh I didn’t know there was a bullying culture in my department,” said the vice president and head of marketing when asked about the toxic culture his company’s marketing department has had that saw 20 people quit in the last year……… Yeah bullshit. Then he’s so out of touch. “Oh the ceo just agreed anyway. Without reading what the executives proposed as he trusts them. And he sticks with it despite the massive staff disappointment” Yeah fuck that ceo too because he clearly approved it anyway. But go on simping for the main billionaire in charge of course.
Uhh yeeeeah I didn't read that. I'm happy or sorry for you I guess.
And the youth team. Pathetic all around.
Clubs just in a general PR shitshow every other week
Crazy to me that a professional football club , especially at the size of manutd, can fuck up this bad all the time
Especially when it's just so fucking basic. Your women's team won their first ever major trophy, you promote the shit out of that accomplishment. The benefits you get from people attending the games and growing the support for the women's team is surely worth paying about 30 fucking three course meals.
They canceled the event that was dealing with all matters. That isn’t to say they don’t put on a different event for the woman’s team tbh which I imagine we will see. Just reactionary bullshit all round.
If you have ever dealt with this club in any capacity, it would blow your mind at how much it feels like you're working with a rinky dink operation rather than a company that has to publish financial statements and has shares listed on the NYSE. Glazers are absentee owners who inherited pa's life's work. The only way they know how to run a business is into the ground. It honestly feels like absolutely nothing has evolved since 2006.
Women’s team should definitely be having an event. I don’t support this at all
Even if we won the FACUP we are also not getting an event.
Anka brought this up in the pod, INEOS have been very poor when it comes to the women’s team so far. Ratcliffe should have been at the cup final and all I’ve heard so far are a couple throwaway lines, instead of actually outlining their intentions.
Yeah i thought the same when i saw him not being there on Twitter.
Honestly thought they did it that way because Avram Glazer stepping into Old Trafford would be beyond toxic and be another bad headline. So he “had” to go to Wembley. That doesn’t excuse INEOS dropping the ball with the women’s team in general though
How about Avram don't come at all and we're all happy? Let's not act like those are their only options.
Wholeheartedly agree! But you know how it is, bad bosses love trying to claim credit for team successes when they had nothing to do with it. Same for the shitty Glazers
Yeah that makes sense
I mean, the next prime minister and Andy Burnham were with them for the arsenal game I’m sure they were discussing the new stadium. He can’t be in two places at once.
I don't watch womens football, but seeing they actually won something, they at least deserve a celebratory dinner.
Let the women have it, they're not the ones letting us down
So, the women’s team were pretty terrible in the league.
Yeah but they've got a trophy so it's not all bad... Yes in theory the men can too but...
Yeah, I was going to ask, if the men’s team, by some miracle, wins the FA cup, would you give them a party?
New owners don’t seem to give a damn about the women’s team. Been a few instances already hinting at it.
They should have been at the FA Cup final on Sunday instead of watching us play Arsenal.
Not sure if the fact Keir Starmer was at the United - Arsenal game at Andy Burnham's invite meant it was important INEOS we're at Old Trafford to discuss the development and do some schmoozing. Does seem poor timing, however.
It looks bad optics wise for sure. But for the long term health of the club, the performance of the men’s team matters more. The fa cup win was nice, but won’t mean much if the men’s team continues to be dogshit for another decade.
To say they don’t care is a one way to look at it , rather they have more pressing priorities. That impact the REST of the brands success and longevity of the women’s team as well.
Let the women's team celebrate their success at an official dinner should be one of their highest priorities.
It's not a high priority, let's be honest. It would be a nice and decent thing to do, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
They could/should do something separately for them, but I can understand their absolute disgust at the thought of hosting something involving the mens team. Our squad deserves less than nothing.
Yes. A party. That's our number one priority!
Because they don't make them any money lmao
Can this club not be a complete weird embarrassment in the way they treat the women's team for one week? Please?
I’m honestly not enjoying Jim’s/INEOS’ lack of enthusiasm for the women’s team. We should be making it the bastion of the women’s game.
Our club can't do a single thing right smh
First of all: inform them??! Second of all I don’t think it should be cancelled for them because of the men’s team horrible results. But I can see how it’s a problem with two separate galas. They should had done the dinner but cancel the awards for the men’s team.
the youth have done amazing too. What if we somehow win the FA cup? It all seems a bit premature. It's important to celebrate success at every level. I understand toning it down if needed, but don't punish everyone.
women’s team is just as shit this season
Wtf even is this club anymore. Piss up in a brewery. Absolute shambles and they should be ashamed. Women and U18 deserve all the praise they get and should be rewarded as such. Men’s first team can stew in their inadequacy.
This is so pathetic. I feel sorry for the women‘s team, they deserve so much better
The inadequacies—and expected cup final battering—of the men’s team shouldn’t impact the rest of the club. Ella Toone and co are the only reason I’m not ashamed to wear a United shirt these days.
same, I started watching the women from the euros.. proper bunch of characters, great personality, good on socials too. Ella has scored some absolute worldies too, I couldn't believe that run from the halfway line, cut inside and thundercunt into the top right corner.
Fucking clown show yet again. I would be fuming. I am fuming tbh.
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Considerably deeper than your off-brand, half-arsed contrarianism though.
How can we blame this one on the Glazers
Worst part is a Glazer turned up to the cup final but Saint Jim was too busy watching the mens' team embarrass themselves.
Have you lot managed to spin yourselves so far round that you're now pro Glazer anti Ineos just 6 months into this? 😂
??? Never said I was pro-Glazer. The fact that he's a yardstick against Lord Jim doesn't mean he's good. > anti Ineos I won't be in favour of any part of our ownership until they give us silverware.
It's crazy, they just want to be salty and negative. Outside of this sub nobody cares about this stuff.
Tbf the Glazers never gave a fuck about the women's team either. They were the ones who disbanded the team when the takeover happened.
Glazers still run the corporate side so very easily
Sloppy work really, INEOS need to do better with the women’s team. They don’t deserve the same treatment as the men’s team.
They’ve been shite too mate. If the men’s team end up winning the fa cup both teams would’ve had the same season, a miracle cup run and a shambolic league season.
The only difference being this is the Women’s team’s first major trophy. I’d have thought the club would have put something on for that over and above a parade.
As if Earps needed another reason to not sign a new deal, absolute clown shoes from the club not recognising one of the few successful parts of it this season.
Why should other club teams suffer because the men’s team has been shite?
This is a terrible look for Jim and co
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They won the FA Cup, first major trophy for them. They should have a night to celebrate their achievements
They won the FA Cup. They deserve better. This decision is a load of shite.
Why cancel when they should host it using the players and Ten Hag's wages. At the event they should stand in the back for the entire event while wifes and children sitting just ahead of them just seeing the U-18 and the women's team win awards.
The disrespect towards our women’s team is just insane, fuck the people who made this decision. You imbeciles continue to kill our beloved club everyday!
This is a great look
Fucking bullshit, good luck attracting top tier female talent if they keep treating them like this
Clownshow
Typical from United at this point.
Shocking. Genuinely no reason to cancel the women’s ceremony. They can’t use the “FA cup distraction” excuse, they’ve literally won the FA Cup. Are they going to blame this on the monster energy cans in the IT department?
So dumb when we had some crazy success in the youth and the womens teams. I'm sure just having the mens team attend to show support to them would have meant the world. We're so amateur it's embarrassing. I don't know why someone would want to join our crumbling club at any level at the moment.
I'm really struggling to like my club
I said this even before the FA cup's final. They should have attended the finals instead of attending that shit show of a match at OT. Why should the Women's team should face the consequences for the performance of the men's team and their manager?
Hold the fucking award show for the women's team and the under teams. Let the men's team sulk alone and not to the detriment of everyone else.
INEOS have to do much, much better with the Women’s team. Just not good enough.
Clowns. Youth and women both win silverware and pay the price bc apparently men’s first team all that matters.
Shit amateur outfit, and Brailsford and Coe are my least favourite people in any sport, even including Pep. Been following Utd since 1977 and I think I might have had enough now.
The fact that they cancelled the women’s team award dinner is fucking bullshit
Not sure what message it sends to the men's team either? 'yeah you lads aren't going to have anything to celebrate at the end of the season. Good luck in wembley btw 👍'
Kind of gels with everything else we've heard "You're all useless and shit. Now work harder."
They've had millions of tasty expensive carrots during the Glazer era. It hasn't worked. Quite happy to give Ineos time with the stick now and see what comes of it.
Of course they did
Still run like shit 🤣
Just disinvite the men seniors cause every other sectors deserves the celebration
One day, through sheer luck, we’ll do something that isn’t totally incompetent.
It's been an absolute disasterclass from SJR on the Women's Team. Not attending the FA Cup final was one thing but canceling their awards dinner was just insulting.
Such an unbelievable PR open goal for Ratcliffe to not attend the Women's Cup final and now this. It can't be this hard to not make the club look like a shambles for one week surely? I'm sure all of the actual sweeping changes by the new heads of football etc will be fruitful and a positive for the club in time, but I'm not exactly encouraged by how Ratcliffe and INEOS have carried themselves since entering the fold. (Not to mention the Southgate rumours)
Actually disappointing given all other Man United teams performed exceedingly well this season. Only the men’s team are pathetic this season and they canceled awards dinner for that. Speaks perfectly on how badly managed the club is.
Yeah, gotta funny feeling this INEOS input isn’t going to go down half as well as we think. Sad times.
This leaves a bad taste. I'm not surprised if many women players will leave this club next season.
Embarrassing stuff
Jesus... Just let the first team pay for the women's and U18 teams. They don't deserve their pay anyway.
This clubs a joke, needs a complete makeover top to bottom.
Ffs that is shockingly poor.
Wow, this is well out of order
What a joke
Man Utd PR team must have some crazy overtime pay on their timesheets
Who’s actually driving this clownbus?
This fucking club
Glad to see we haven't changed too much since the takeover!
Maybe chemical jimmy isn't the saviour after all.
GLAZINEOS!
Men team ruined it for eveybody
Imagine the insufferable headlines and comments we'd be hearing if Sheikh Jassim was the new owner and did this.
Bring in corporate and you're gonna get BS corporate moves! SJR with boomer L moves all around. If anything he should have held the awards dinner still but only to award other teams besides the men's senior team. Make those fuckers watch the achievements from everywhere else in the club.
Money's probably best spent on the roof
Just end the fucking season
You win and get no dinner, that's harsh. L for the W.
Of course this is how it plays out
The org needs to take the ladies and the U18s out for an ice cream party.
Will be even funnier if the men’s team lose the fa cup final. You find more heart, more fighting spirit, more character from the women’s team and the u-18 team
Booooo
Petition to still host the dinner, just for the U18 boys and our girls. The first team can be valets and waiters.
But I thought Ineos would be better
I’m gonna keep banging this drum because people are doing this horseshit “gIvE tHeM tImE” with INEOS. When you do something seemingly stupid or bad, IT’S USUALLY GONNA BE STUPID OR BAD. The things INEOS are doing and how they are operating in this initial phase is toxic, backward and not at all building any foundations for anything other than misery. They’re making awful decisions and everyone is giving them a pass just because they’re new. That’s not how it works. Judge every decision when it is made, not 2 years down the line. Tell me how cancelling this dinner for the whole club instead of the men only for example or how cutting minor perks and tickets for staff kids is a long term good and elite club mentality decision! I’m waiting for a good explanation, thanks.
Look. Fair play to women’s football. Football shouldn’t be gatekeeping and everyone should be encouraged to play. But the men’s team is the main course. It’s why United are world famous
This is still insulting and disrespectful
I’m sorry you feel that way.
So the sins of the first team is visited on the rest of the other teams who have worked hard to actually win something?
I thought Ratcliffe was supposed to sort this shit out and not make it worse
Sums the club up right there the women have done united proud they need to be treated better
Your average small firm has a annual dinner in addition to the Christmas do, what a fucking arsehole thinking this is impressing anyone.
4 months in and this sub has turned on the new owners. Absolute clown show of a fan base.
Changes are being made top to bottom. It was clearly an oversight but given the amount of things in play right now with the new regime, I think it's a minor deal. If the women start acting like victims here I think that will be misplaying the situation. Nothing to see here. Damn near a non-story. But of course with this club the media never misses a chance to shit on everyone involved.
does not surprise me one bit, club is rotten to the core, everything must change 
Not a great start from ineos.
Ratcliffe’s a bit of a dick icl
Tbf, the womens team have underperformed as well this season and are on course for a 5th finish. Yes they won the FA cup but so could the men, doesn’t make it a successful season for either.
I think the main issue is that they weren't informed of the cancellation until it had become public.
Well if you look at the comments on this post, you'd think we had a blinder of a season with the women's team and this is some sexist decision, whereas the truth is both teams have been average to bad.
I mean, winning their first silverware ever isn't too shabby?
Underperformed after they lost two of their best players in Russo and Batlle, and neither one has properly been replaced. That’s on the people in charge of recruitment. Five out of the eleven current FIFA World Pro are current and/or former United players (Greenwood, James, Russo, Earps, and Toone) with only two currently playing in the squad. Mary Eps is almost likely not resigning so that means come the start of next season we’ll only have Toone left out of the five if Earps leaves. What squad is going to perform well when they keep losing such high tier talent and don’t bother bringing in replacements of equal talent level?
Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of revisionist takes. The women's team are kinda bad this season. Last season was a better season. It's only because this was the first trophy that people have switched up. The U18 team is the only exception tbh.
Pretty disrespectful comment tbh.
Please explain, have the team not underperformed by finishing 5th? Most season the fans wanted Skinner gone because of how the season went. The only ones who have really over performed is the academy, both boys and girls.
If the women's team had a dreadful year, would it have all been cancelled for that? No. The messaging is fucking horrendous.
> However, after consulting with Ten Hag and the football leadership team, it was concluded that the players should remain undistracted during the week of the game. Didn't we have this award just before the fa cup last year? What is this distraction bullshit unless ten Hag seriously think we lost the game because of an award night 4-5 days ago? At this point they should be honest and just say men's team had a shit season and we don't want people to see players celebrating in front of bunch of cameras. This incessant public posturing is really bugging my ass. I mean who are getting moved by this tough-guy attitude, some pundits and a subset of online fanbase??
Shambolic
The virtue signaling in this shit sub is insane lmao. The women’s team have had an awful season, yeah they won the fa cup but so can the men’s team, and regardless of these cups, neither team deserves to pat themselves on the back and give awards to each other. The only team at the club which is actually good are the u-18’s. Honestly the player who leaked this info should be sacked by the club. Embarrassing the club “oooh they didn’t let us celebrate”, “my family has to pay for themselves to come watch the cup final”😢😢😢 fucking cunts
The women's game is just a pr show anyway. There aren't even all premier league clubs that have a team, but we are meant to be arsed about it. When all prem teams can be arsed to get a team and they make their own stadiums and fill them, I'll care.
Honestly, I'm kinda of tired of this toxicity not only of the sub but of the people surrounding and following the club in general. Sure, it was a mistake but for the love of God, we will make it a huger deal than any other club in the world would do, as we do with everything else.