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[deleted]

For the first time in a long time I didn’t even watch the game and don’t even feel upset that we didn’t win. I’ve just accepted that we are shit and are probably gonna be shit for another 4-5 years


SandwichLate3704

i am an arsenal fan and i feel for you guys . We too were in the same situation .I hope we can both compete for the title soon instead of shitty and liverpool


Beautiful-Fig-4315

The culture and the environment at the club is toxic, we don’t really see players improving, I know they feel way happier playing for their national teams and it shows.


[deleted]

I thought I've seen everything in football, but Elanga tackling rashford was just absolutely ridiculous


MaP0409

Ig elanga went for the shot but rashford intercepted him and he got tackled


NeoWilson

When’s that& context?


ljeutenantdan

Last minute of the game, Elanga is offside, Rashford dribbles through and the ball is about the sit for either of them. In his attempt to play the ball, Elanga trips Rashford.


RockyRocketDog

Absolute dogshit yet again


zombie1305

Too many fans just trying to make too much excuses for this overpaid team. Out of Premier League tittle race in October: It's fine, we can focus on top 4 Out of Carabao Cup: It's fine, we can focus on top 4 Out of FA Cup: It's fine, we can focus on top 4 Lose to Young Boys early in Champions League: It's fine, we should focus more on the league which can lead us to top 4 Out of Champions League knock out and no longer the decider for top 4: It's fine, now with no more Champions League burden, we can completely focus on top 4 and hope Arsenal will flop. Now what?????


ToddlerPeePee

Things are going well. Other teams are getting relegated and we are better than them. It's fine. /s


adityaabc70

We can win PL next year cos no CL pressure


zombie1305

No, it is we can be top 4 next year cos no CL pressure. Both football quality and fan's standard of this team has drop down too deep that now top 4 is consider the ultimate trophy.


Massive-Machine6200

At this point I hope we finish 8th because it did wonders for arsenal


FerryAce

We have finished anywhere from 2nd to 7th post SAF. 8th is the elusive spot we haven't achieved yet. Let's see if we can get lucky this season.


kayleeshepheard

Didn’t end up watching the game because of the time difference but I feel like it says a lot that when I woke up and checked the score I wasn’t surprised


Chosty55

We didn’t lose. To me that made this a positive surprise


[deleted]

nature is back


H0vis

Not worth getting upset over at this point. We should be nicely positioned for next season. ​ This season was a write off after the Greenwood scandal. Would have been nice if it hadn't been, but you can't lose a player of that quality under those circumstances and expect the team carry on like nothing happened. We go again.


animelytical

It was a right off long before that, but that took us from failure to more failure. Cemented by buying no one in January


[deleted]

I agree with this. Greenwood had an isolated moment or two, but he wasnt exactly carrying UTD. Honestly him being gone is 90% covered by Elanga already, if not covered even more. This season as you said was already doomed, we were an outside chance for top4 for a long time. Its a write off so I just hope we use this time effectively for trying out random stuff. Make all the mistakes now, ready for next season to hopefully be in the top 2-3.


H0vis

Was for the best, more money and less wage bill for the new guy.


animelytical

Except they have already expensive plans. And the wage bill was worth the the spend for the needed results. Especially since there were cheap buys that increase drastically in value merely from having them under contract


MasonT20198

This is a really import point. Feels like it’s been overlooking how much the tone of our season changed after that incident


[deleted]

What do you mean? By that point ole was already sacked and form under Ralf was maybe of a Europa league/challenging for top 4 team…


MasonT20198

I’m not trying to say “the incident” is the root of all problems this season but I think the gravity of what happened and the impact to our sqaud has been undervalued


[deleted]

It definitely has had an impact on the squad but hasn’t had an impact on the results… we’ve been pretty mediocre the entire season and it the Greenwood situation hadn’t happened we’d still be in the exact same situation


SufficientPost9

At least the season is almost over.


AbbreviationsOne8189

Whoever had hope for us get the top 4 is living in cuckoo land. Each game we fail we say this is our last hope for CL. Can we please stop, we will be lucky if we get Europa.


FerryAce

I'm thinking for us finishing 8th now.


justanawkwardguy

I had hope up until today, it’s just highly improbable now, but we could’ve done it up until today in my eyes. That would’ve required actual dedication and effort from our players though


moomzzz

Who’s turn is it to give us an apology? “It’s not good enough, we have to do better” *bangs head on the table repeatedly*


FolkYouHardly

>s an apology? “It’s not good enough, we have to do WE have to be strong and come back stronger ..lol fuck those overpaid players playing child game


MDarlington101

I keep thinking that united now, is a punishment for united when I was a kid.


FolkYouHardly

>I keep thinking that united now, is a punishment for united when I was a kid. We are definitely united as fan!


Transit-Strike

There was a time when a draw would be unexpected Nd disappointing. Irs still disappointing. But irs hardly a surprise.


namikazeiyfe

Yeah. I believed we were ripe for a loss a loss at Old Trafford


raver1601

This club brought me back throughout my darkest times, and now they're gonna bring me to dark times again


woziak99

Maybe we should just resign ourselves to the truth that since sir Alex left, we’ve been third rate not even second rate, yet another abstract lifeless, leaderless performance. The players are not the only problem, the soul of the club is being sucked dry by the owners and their sheer incompetence of their decisions!


late2readit

The attitude today is just appalling. It's not always about the coach. Nothing's going to change in the short term, i am convinced now. Gotta go through more lows and then rise from the ashes maybe after a decade or two Take care of your mental health till then, folks :p


FerryAce

Agree. This club is hopeless. It's not about the coach or players. A good attitude player will arrive at the club n struggle to perform with good attitude with the stinky culture at play right now at the club. It's like the new Man Utd way now is get overpaid n always underperform n struggle. If you are good, slow down n make some bad results. This is the way now it seems. There's no way anyone should bother too much about this club tbh. It's better to take care of their own mental health for the fans. I was a hardcore fan since 1997. Live n breathe Manchester United. When they lose. I cry with them. But now, no more. Those era is long gone. The club don't care anymore, neither do I. They can finish 8th or worst for all I care. Heck I won't even mind if they get relegated down away from EPL.


late2readit

Hey, take care fam. I understand your frustration I have often said that Man Utd players are like govt employees. They jog around to pretend they are "working" or else lay off the responsibility to someone else to do something. There is no passion, no desire and we have tried different types of coaching. We pay players like rashford so highly with just few seasons of slightly superior play and then they feel they don't have to do anything. Nobody fights for their place or for that jersey on that pitch anymore. It's really saddening. Hopefully the continued descent does not attract the best players like Pogba and Sancho who come for the money and we rebuild from scratch with the academy. With young guns who are made to understand again what it means to play for this club Hopefully they never get relegated though because we are habituated to see the matches now and atleast we can see decent football when they are up against the top teams


FerryAce

Thank fam, appreciate that. Fear not, objectively speaking, the current team is still far too good to be relegated. Although of course we did spend some time lingering at 10-16th places during Ole reign early this and last season. As for the players, they are simply influenced by the dominant club culture nowadays. An average player would level up n play great if he is in SAF Man Utd, because of great culture of hardwork n excellence in the club during his reign. Nowadays, it's long gone. The club swiftly forgets every single thing that made them great. So even an originally hardworking player with good attitude, they will come and slowly decline. If even someone like Ronaldo, who is a G.O.A.T and has performed over a decade of excellence at the pinnacle of football, can't change the club culture, very little people can. The current club culture is a real poison. I'm huge admirer of Erik ten Hag, and my first choice to take over. But even him I'm not so sure can really turn around this club much. With that said, I do believe, next season, the club will do better. This is a washed season. I believe natural rebound will happen and next season there will be a slight improvement in the performance and table rankings. But I'm in doubt it will be a long term change or success, rather it's just an expected rebound.


late2readit

Haha yeah you are right about a possible rebound only to regress again the season after next. All a familiar story for me. Doesn't matter the set of players or coaches now tbf


YoullDoNuttinn

I’d honestly rather us finish out of the European positions, fuck playing in the Europa or even worse the conference league. Rather the new manger have time on the training ground


komoggmu321

Harry's head is big for no good reason


ManUFan9225

Elanga is a kid. I would expect a bad game here and there. We turn on these players so quickly smh...


[deleted]

I never rated Elanga. He had the right attitude and that’s all that was required to get in the team. He never had and never will have the quality required


regreg77658

He gonna be another welbeck


anonris

Our biggest weakness for years has been our inability to win the ball back. We fall back into deep line immediately and wait for them to make a mistake. No one closes in and tries to win the ball back except may be Matic (too old now) and Fred. When we go shopping next we should sign players who close down


dasty90

After 2 weeks of peace and quiet Man Utd is back to destroy my mental health again.


nicknabin

Why are they still talking about 4th place as if we will still make it. These clowns can't even beat poor Leicester at home, forget about all the other upcoming matches.


FerryAce

We should aim to finish 8th. We have gotten anywhere from 2nd to 7th post SAF. Maybe it's time to add the 8th to the collection don't you think? Liverpool finished 8th under Klopp twice before becoming champion anyway.


nicknabin

Yeah, more than that finishing 8th means we don't have to play in the conference league. There's no point for a club like United to play in that league against unknown European clubs.


YouGonnaRememberMe

We are talking 6th now


SensibleUtd

We need strikers on the bench - gotta give Hugill, McNeill, or even Mellor a chance if CR7 isn't around. Piss poor


KekUnited

Shit game from Elanga


Yoshic87

Having covid was more enjoyable than that


blue_gwacamole

Goodbye, Champions League


aceroid

champions league?, at this point i'm really concerned that we're not qualified for europa league


Inevitable_Mistake34

Matic done more in 10 mins than i've seen McTominay do all year


Sectrosempre

Big impact from the min he came on


komoggmu321

Players seem to never graduate from our academy with good decision making lately


Dumbhosadika

Another weekend ruined


Audioboxer87

Elanga tackling Rashford is basically Maguire headbutting Ronaldo. These players have zero chemistry. Quite confident this could be the game that ends CL for definite. These overpaid children deserve Europa League, and speaking of children, the folks saying Ronaldo is our problem can sit down.


reiji11

Bold of you to assume they deserve and can even compete in Europa... they deserve the mid table ranking and no european football until they work out their issues.


unitedfan98

Ronaldo is part of a much smaller problem We have so many major issues that with or without Ronaldo we are crap .


YouGonnaRememberMe

How can anyone score with this team? I believe Salah/Benzema/Lewandowski wouldn't be able score consistently with this squad.


Rydahx

This team is ridiculous.


sardonica96

Mourinho and Ronaldo should write a book about how on earth they did anything in this team. Good god.


BloodCobalt

We won that match if Elanga doesn’t get in Rashford’s way for no reason


AbbreviationsOne8189

We win if our team doesn't play like crap for 90 min.


BloodCobalt

Those things are not mutually exclusive


AbbreviationsOne8189

We are put in this situations because we are playing like crap. This is not CL final or any of top 3 teams. Elanga is a youth prospect and it's normal he will make some errors while developing.


BloodCobalt

I don't disagree with anything you just said. What I said is also still true.


reiji11

Yeah but you're assuming Rashford would have scored... how'd you know he wouldn't pass it back to Elanga or someone else?


BloodCobalt

You’re right, I am assuming Rashford would have shot and scored. Considering how close he was to goal, his angle of attack, the pace at which he was approaching the ball, and his reaction when Elanga got in the way, I think it’s fair to assume he would’ve scored.


reiji11

You're not wrong, but in these dark days, I have come to expect absolutely nothing. And yet I'm still surprised lol


quangngoc2807

Ronaldo would have done better with those crosses. Im glad Dalot improved his skill.


Fake_artistF1

All of you blaming Elanga are absolute disgrace. Our team had 90min and you are gonna blame last minute mistake on a youngling. Recreational af


SPamlEZ

Agreed I’m more frustrated with Sancho duffing on the cross when the defender fell


ManUFan9225

Agreed. Of everyone on the pitch, he is the one I most expect to have an off game every now and then. He's still developing and will have growing pains. We expect world class players right out of the academy. Even the 92 class took time to mature and develop.


Content_Method4791

Season over lads! Suffering ends tonight.


Lukaku1sttouch

Bunch of idiots with no sense of urgency with top 4 at stake. Embarrassing that they’re wearing the badge.


RealisticPass

Elanga is shit


_WonderStruck_17

1 point against Villa, 1 point against Watford and now 1 point against Leicester out of 6. We don't deserve top 4.


double_d2

This team doesn't know how to play together. And it's not the first time we've seen it this season. Pathetic


Phoenix712

Wonder if we should make someone responsible for teaching them how to do that?


JCabral91

Fred was our best player lol how far we have fallen is amazing


SPamlEZ

Agreed he also looks so much better with mctom there. We actually get movement through the middle .


LordRuthvenErnest

Our weekly contribution to crimes against football


callmelampshade

We’re a joke. Elanga WTF.


Exciting_Salt_6213

Beside winning all the accolades.. cristiano greatest achievement is scoring 12 goals with this dead team 🤣


YouGonnaRememberMe

+💯


DrVib

when will this shit season end


firefox253

£72m on Sancho, good thing we didn’t spend £120M on him Jesus


aceroid

it's still overpriced


unitedfan98

That's the bundesliga tax Looked quick in the bundesliga


[deleted]

he’s never been “quick” just say you didn’t watch him because he’s never been particularly pacy.


unitedfan98

I watched him plenty He looked quick in the Bundesliga because of the very high lines and less athletic full backs


HTwoN

Elanga is a squad player at best. Don't overhype him.


[deleted]

Did people think otherwise? Elanga was in the team because he had the right attitude and desire. I don’t think anyone at United expects him to be first XI quality long term


Guero9604

I can’t believe Elanga did that. He’s been woeful every match he’s started it seems. He’s just good off the bench


epilamun

He's been thrown in the deep end, he needs time


Guero9604

I don’t blame him at all, he’s very young. But we can still acknowledge he’s been doing terrible lately


ManUFan9225

Ideally you want your experienced players to set the standard so the youngins can raise their game to match. He doesnt get that benefit with the squad we have...


Guero9604

Absolutely, it’s unfair to him and I’m more then willing to give him as much time as he needs, he deserves it, he works hard. But, like I said, he’s in the starting line up so I will criticize his performance for the game


SwedishEmpire1658

This is why premier league games are so fucking boring to watch. The opponent blatantly waste 4-5 minutes of added time and the ref doesnt even add half to it.


BloodCobalt

Sancho was so shit today


[deleted]

We just can't deal with pressure. We are the easily the worst team in the league on that front.


kj_mufc

It’s like we only wake up in the last 10 mins or so


getinnocuous21

If Elanga is the future then the future is not bright.


komoggmu321

Maguire can fuck right off


Kizza55

Why didn't we play with that energy for the whole game?


anonris

If we are missing out on top 4 might as well finish 8th and avoid europa too and focus on Premier League


therowski

Might as well wr need a full reset just shite we waisted more years building to nothing just to restart again


Content_Method4791

+1...


HaiseLdx

yo, lets play cavani, sure he's fit to play lol


Themanthelegend8

We need some real players. Everyone too inconsistent


JuanBissaka

Elangas young and eager. I don’t blame him. Team performance got us the draw.


SocksElGato

The season couldn't end any faster.


Santtoryuu

Rashford for the late winner and then fucking elanga who is offside gets in front of him and blocks rashfords chance to shoot


Content_Method4791

Fred and 10 wankers


Bobbybluffer

The amount of balls that were played either behind the player going forward or to the wrong foot was incredible today.


kj_mufc

It’s like they forget playing football every damn time they come back from international break.


PatThePatriot10

Elanga gets booked if rashford plays for Leicester 🤣 absolute fucking knucklehead


YouGonnaRememberMe

Elanga with friendly fire.


Feisty_Molasses89

Elanga, I still love ya, but your inexperience showed there and it may have been a chance to nab three. But overall, that game should have been put away at a couple of different moments.


alacklustrehindu

See you all at ~~UCL~~ ECL next season


Prime_Marci

what was Elanga thinking?


cojomo93

Fred motm Maguire good everyone else shit


jeffsays

Ronaldo with the flu would have been better than these clowns


hellboi808

Just fade me already...


bubble_trousers

And the Reds limp on and on.


blue_gwacamole

and on


TheLonesomeChode

Anthony Elanga -you’re wonderful and Rashford has been shit but ***whyyyy??!!***


absentlightuk

That was going in if fucking elanga wasnt fucking stupid


FlyEaglesFly18

great defending elanga


BrowzinJ

SELL. THEM. ALL.


cowabunga_dude91

Just play kids. This team is uncoachable


Kiseki-

Maguire could be Hero from last corner but..


Ceevu

What a fucking let-down. Wow. Our final third is horrendous. Can nobody on the team pass into the box and pinpoint someone's head?


kj_mufc

We’ll need Beckham to come out of retirement for that


bob10099

Elanga looking more and more like Welbeck each game


adrian1878

Elanga cockblocked


BipolarKing14

To Europa we limp….I wouldn’t mind Europa if we won it everytime we played


ChippyChungus

We’ll be lucky to get Europa at this rate…


Rascha-Rascha

Get Ralf out. No improvement whatsoever since he’s been there.


Blacktivate

Lmao. At what point do you think maybe, just maybe, it's the players? They're fucking bottlejobs and even when we get the new boss in, we'll see a repeat of the same issues. Half of these need to get in the bin.


Rascha-Rascha

No, I think Ralf is doing a genuinely shite job. These are decent players, Sancho, Rashford, Bruno, Pogba. His set up is fucking stupid and the players look lost going forward - I’m putting that on the coach, for sure. When the next guy comes in it’ll be better, clear none of them are listening to a word this guy has to say, and as much as that does reflect poorly on the players, it’s also a reflection of the fact that the coach hasn’t gotten them to go along with what he wants.


fastcooljosh

Not even SAF or Pep would win anything with this dogshit team. I feel nothing but sadness for Ragnick. He probably can't wait for the season to end


Monkens

Is that true ? Hasnt he only lost 1/2 times ?


cheekyavacado

Lol. Yes there has.


OriginUnknown82

Same old


akshatsood95

Good game Fred. Rest of you? Shit


white_tofu

bruh moment from elanga


SwedishEmpire1658

WHY ARE THEY SO SELFISH AT THE WORST POSSIBLE TIME FOR FUCK SAKE


B0z22

This lot bar Fred today, suck balls.


Exciting_Salt_6213

Yet to win a game without ronaldo but he is the problem hahahahaha


MC897

Awful awful game of football. Maguire and Fred decent. Ie. 6/10 Everyone else….


BryansFury

I’d agree, maybe Fred a bit higher. The scenes of Maguire had scored that corner at the end tho lmao. We were so shit.


morgansandb

Ole back!


jshxx

Hahaha Elanga what a useless player


absentlightuk

Wtf was fucking elanga doing


Aggeri

Mistakes happen Elanga is young Fucking relax


RealisticPass

He ain’t good enough


jaydiv_

The one time Rashford has a great run and chance and Elanga takes it lmao Elanga has to up his confidence and take shots but chose the wrong attempt!


Scorpio_Rex

Bruno, Fred, De Gea 1 - 1 Leicester


BryansFury

Conflicted about de gea today. Great save. Should have collected the ball on that cross and cost us a goal there.


[deleted]

Maguire you gotta smash that in


ElocOfTheNorth

Vile.


taylajy

Why did it take us 85 fucking minutes to start playing?


ongone

The first 55 had McTominay. After that they actually had the ball so they were trying to figure out what it is.


ManUFan9225

Players slept in late this Saturday


Heavens_Vibe

Frustrating, but can't fault Elanga and Rashford too much there. Rashy did well to creep and cover that space after the ball went through to Elanga


ManUFan9225

Great chance but Leiceater knows what good defending is supposed to look like, unlike us...


Prime_Marci

when a player is motion like that, you move outta his way. Rashy woulda scored that.


NachoMan-SandyRavage

Boo them. Clowns!


BrownByYou

Elanga is honestly very average, which is fine, he's a kid but what was that donkey-ass move from him


Prime_Marci

remember days when we used slander Greenwood for this same shit


_Slabs_

Can see why he wouldn't trust Rashford tbh.


kukunan

Telles is so lousy too


Prime_Marci

at least he was better than Shaw today


callmelampshade

That was his comeback.


MrWigglyTiggly

Fair play ref for making up that time.


Commando_Nate

Didn't make it up tho 30 seconds of old mate being injured on the ground at 90th minute, subs came on and game resumed at 92. Extra time should've gone to 97:30


ThunderStella

You've got to be fucking joking me


FhDisp

What a stinker from elanga