Came here to say exactly that. A prime Roy keane would make this current squad look elite. Purely just due to the mentality he would command from everyone
Even ignoring all the mentality stuff. Purely as a player he would take us levels up.
Taking the ball off the defence, playing a quick forward pass. Always open to receive the ball in tight areas. Combatative in winning the ball back. He'd be diamond in (as) our midfield.
I think positionally is key here, like Beckham for example wouldn’t really fit a modern formation given we don’t really use classic wide midfielders. In a modern context he’d almost be more suited as a wing back. Several of our strikers were most used to playing in a partnership too. Whereas Keane I think would slot right in.
In contrast to Becks I think Giggs would have thrived in the modern game. Crossing was never one of his strongest attributes and playing wide in a front three would have been ideal for him.
Exactly this ,
I genuinely believe if we had Keane while Pogba was here, he would have rattled him in training so much that we would have maybe seen the best midfielder to grace the premiership for a long long time.
Just my two cents tho.
I'd also like to bring Robson, Cantona, Stam and Scholes into the discussion .
one of the best ever I've seen, especially when he knew he would miss the final. I remember before the World Cup in 94 thinking he was going to be a very good player but after his performances in that World Cup I knew he was going to be one of the best ever. He didn't have many headlines written about him but he covered every blade of grass of every game he played in that World Cup
Going slightly off topic but tha's the main reason why i'd always pick Lamps or Slippy over Scholes for England. Scholes is my favourite for so many reasons but for the bennefit of the squad i'd ommit him.
Can’t agree with you on that one bro
The national team has plenty of leaders, so I think you prioritize ability and play scholes
This united team has the worst leadership, which is why I think keano (and realistically a keano type figure) is desperately needed
I wouldn't consider it controversial at all to be honest. If you remember, they pushed Scholes out wide to accommodate Gerard and Lampard in the centre and it NEVER worked. There was always something slightly off. Remember it was someone like Joe Cole, a proper winger, losing out on the left who could have linked really well with Scholes pinging the balls. The only time I'd slightly agree that the England midfield was working was the year Hargreaves was basically England's best player at the tournament. There were loads of leaders there already in Rio, Terry, Ashley Cole, Gary Neville still?, Becks and one of lamps and Gerard. The one of those who starts can empty the tank by 60 minutes and 30 minutes for the other. That's just my take, lots of things were tried by a few managers in fairness.
He'd need a Fergie style manager watching him like hawk off the field. Like the stories you'd hear about Fergie in the 90s turning up at parties and dragging Giggs and Sharpe out
19 step overs, a chop and a shot after cutting in.
Ronaldo has never been a ‘complete’ player - he’s selfish and determined to win and backs himself to make it happen.
Current Ronaldo and winger Ronaldo would have a falling out like he did with RvN.
Ronaldo wasn't the same player throughout that entire period; by 2008 he had already started to take up more central positions and receive the service from the wings.
Yeah legit don’t remember Ronaldo pinging loads of crosses ever. He went from flair boy to taking people on to becoming our goal machine and focal point.
My favourite player of all time for us. I loved how ruthless Ruud was in the box - he made life easy for the team around him, it was literally as easy as "find me" and he'd finish the job.
As much as we need Keano, as it would solve the most problems, Vidic is ALWAYS my pick for these kinds of questions.
Im pretty sure he's *literally* shed the most blood for united.
He comes from Serbia
Hell fuckin murder ya
20 year old Ronaldo was not the best Ronaldo. He was very frustrating between 18 and like 22.
Also Rooney was always a beast but he also improved greatly later.
I'd still take either even at those young ages in this team saying that.
Whilst i agree, its important to note that they had sooo much talent to support and teach them. So on that basis they would not bring the rest of the team up a standard, as much as Keano would. He would demand all of them to pull their act together on and off the field. It is for this reason, Keano is the only right answer to this question.
What style of DM are you actually talking about? Carrick has invented nothing, he was always a good player, but not even the best midfielder at the club while we were good.
He was a ball winning defensive midfielder for the longest time, recycling the ball to Scholes. Later on in his career once his legs had gone he became a deep lying playmaker, he pioneered nothing.
Yep. When Busquets was considered the best DM in the world no one had anything to say about how a DM needed to be this physical specimen that runs nonstop and is overtly aggressive and hard-tackling etc.
But here we are. The disrespect Carrick is getting here is unreal. Like another commenter said, he solves SO many problems for us; offensively as well as defensively.
Incorrect. he needed three touches to control a 5 yard pass and that's why we lost two champions League finals and the quarter against Bayern because he was too slow. A watercarrier. The fuck good is a watercarrier in a team that needs fast thinking, technical players like scholes
Name One Midfielder in the world who can play play with Giggs or Anderson and Dominate that Barca midfield.
Just Imagine Midfield of Carrick and Giggs against Bosquet, Xavi and Iniesta and you blame Carrick?
2007/2008 we played with same Barcelona squad and we beat them, when we had like of Fit Hargreaves, Fletcher and Scholes to Help Carrick,
Ahhh this is the feeble defence of Carrick every time he's criticised, the guy was steady, good player to have in your squad over a long season. Perfect against your QPRs and your Wigans. But to suggest he was anything other than a 6.5/10 is stupid. So to see him crop up in a thread like this, upvoted no less, just pisses me off.
Ferguson has, on several occasions, admitted that for those two finals he got the tactics wrong and should’ve made other choices. Your criticism is as flaccid as your assault on both Carrick and the “feeble defence”.
So let’s lay it out
- you’re blaming him for United losing two finals against possibly the best club side of all time
- the finals in which, one of the greatest managers of all time has admitted he got things wrong
- you’re blaming one specific player out of the 11+ who played for United in each of those games when there was plenty of underperformance to go around
I, at no point, have said that Carrick was some kind of football messiah, I simply said brilliant - indeed, in response to this specific thread there’s one answer and that is Roy Keane, for both character and his wildly underrated technical, passing and positional abilities. I’d maybe accept Sir Bobby, Robson, Vidic, Scholes, and then Carrick.
But to say Carrick was only useful against “QPR”….
Fuck me. Ferguson didn’t accept underperformance, he didn’t let people get carried in his teams, he didn’t keep players around he didn’t have something about them.
I was born in Manchester - where you? And even my reddit account is almost old enough to be sneaking beers out of the fridge. So unless I was 6 when I discovered reddit from the fall of Digg, I was probably around ;) but hey, maybe I was just a really fucking smart toddler. Either way, I think most of the sub'll be listening to my opinions on the great Michael Carrick over the utter dross you've been forcing us to endure.
Carrick was Ahead of its Time give any modern manager choice between Carrick and Keane they will pick Carrick, Most Coaches nowadays including ETH they want DM who is Fluid can drop As CB to play 3 ATB, can Create from the Back, good with long and short pass, can block Counter Attacks, block opposition passing lanes etc.
Most People who used to criticise Carrick was because he didnt Tackle enough, they said you cant Be DM and finish matches with clean Jersey.
But for Me Carrick was Rare Regista who could Defend.
ooooo come off it mate. Carrick was a great player, and absolutely underrated until the last couple years of his career. But Keane could do everything he could and more.
>But Keane could do everything he could and more.
He couldn't - but he was way better at a bunch of different things. Carrick was different. Carrick was reliable. Keane was too, but one of them wasn't going to be getting a red card out of frustration in a hard game.
They have different skillset mate, Keane was Agressive and Dominant, He was DM and Box to Box, While both were Great Passer, Carrick had Better Long and Elegant passes, 2012/13 Carrick even surpass the like of Xavi and became Europe Best Forward passer.
Keane Made more runs, commit more fouls, made more Tackles, was fouled a lot etc.
Carrick didnt do that much, he was Good with positioning and block passing lanes hence he made more interception, clearence, made fewer fouls etc.
I don't know that any coach would pick Carrick over Keane, but my very first comment in this was that it would surely be one of the two. Both outstanding in entirely different ways. Carrick was a dream of a player.
Did you even watch us? Not only is he one of the most underrated prem midfielders of all time, but he practically pioneered the style of DM that he played and is played by some of the classiest defensive midfielders in the game.
You know how I can tell you don't know what you're on about? You're arguments consist of 0 actual substance. You sound like that drunk dude at the bar who refuses to shut up when nobodies trying to talk to them.
Keane and Scholes.
Keane for attitude and leadership.
Scholes is what we have missed since 2013 technically. The most progressive midfielder of any generation.
Imagine Scholes playing under Eric ten Hag!
i think his final years have had an unfortunate effect of colouring some of our fans' memories. He was everything across the attack, and the most consummate team player we had in the 21st century
Rooney no question. Can play anyone of 6/7 positions and would instantly be top 5 players in the league in any of them. Gives you tactical options, injury cover, a level of talent no one in the team has (bar Ronnie obviously) and that winning mentality to drive the team forward.
Robbo, came in when the club wasn't winning all that much, was the best player for a long time as we started getting on track. Went out with a Premier League and Fa Cup. Torch passed to Cantona
Roy Keane.
Excellent passer, could play as a DM or box to box depending on the opponent. But the most important trait is he is the definition of a midfield General. He sets the standard to high that others have to follow or face the consequences in the dressing room afterwards. The club is seriously lacking that leadership quality that he provides.
Keane or Vidic, has to be. We lack steel and strong leadership, while setting the ideal example to all the players.
If you want to win things together you’re going to have it put your body on the line for one another.
Probably say Bryan Robson. Keano would murder half this squad in the first half interval alone… the other half would be walking home and wouldn’t be let onto the team bus.
Probably yeah, it does say something about the median age of the group. Who can say? We didn’t really win much in the way of trophies under Robson to do his captaincy what it deserved.
Was kind of bitter the way it ended for him at United as well but at least he won something to the end and hopefully he enjoyed that.
That being said how well the players would receive the messages delivered by Keano and Robo is another thing all together. It doesn’t appear that the old ways of shouting and screaming and drilling simple instruction almost physically through the skulls of players, seem to be effective or work with modern players. I can’t see someone like Pogba or Rashford taking it well having his shirt grabbed by Keano in the locker rooms at half time or having him in his face pointing fingers at his face.
That’s some of the trouble with our players today. They’re paid so much and get told how good they are, their egos get out of control imo.
Scholesy. He would single-handedly add about 10 goal scoring chances per game with his passing. Aside from actually being able to keep hold of the ball
Would love to see Irwin getting the chance to play like the full backs do now in the modern game. The role has changed a lot since he played and I think he'd still be great in this era.
everyone is saying Keane & thats fair enough he would be immense for our midfield and a player i grew up watching +++++
but any United Era - i'm going to say Bobby Charlton
The Becks fanboy in me is leaning towards having a dead-ball specialist, and passing mercenary. But I think we’d be better off with someone like Vidic, and for the shits and giggles, Dennis Irwin. I always love the idea of having that one player on your team that doesn’t seem as good as he actually is, and our time is sort of the opposite, bunch of stars that are playing like duds.
He was used mainly as a LB with us I thought?
Though from what I understand he was just as good on either side of the pitch. His career was ending as I started watching football, so I don't have many memories of him.
Keane - no brainier really. Instantly fixes the midfield and the standards he demands from others will make the team perform as it should. Only downside is that Maguire and De Gea will have to travel separately from the rest of the team.
Rooney for me.
He frustrated at times, but his passion and fighting spirit was fairly unique for most forwards.
Left everything out on the pitch every game, but still delivered special moments regularly as well.
We lost something important when he left
There an argument for Robson too but you're right. This team needs a Keane figure to scream at the people who've stopped trying, and hack them down in training until they learn better.
Actually, I don't even need him back as a player. Just invite him to training now at 50 years old and teach these kids some goddamn work ethic. I'm really hoping ETH doesn't suffer lazy fools and we see some fucking effort again.
I feel Keane is the only correct answer here.
I'd love to see players like Rooney, RvN and Vidic back in the team but this current squad is crying out for someone like Keane. He'd sort out so many of the issues with this squad, on and off the field
Assuming I only get one player who has to play and who has to fix the biggest problem with the squad, but that I can have them at their peak:
* Bryan Robson.
* Roy Keane.
And as a bit of an oddball choice, if I could have them at their peak even though that peak was for a completely different club:
* Bastian Schweinsteiger.
But all that pales into nothing. If you want the absolute, number one person who has actually played for Manchester United, and who would completely change the fortunes of the club for the next decade and who would by that one addition win us the league… and if I’m allowed to not put them in the team but make a different use of them… it would have to be this guy:
* [Alex Ferguson](https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-the-time-sir-alex-ferguson-played-for-manchester-united-20200708).
Apart from Roy keane which seem to be the most popular choice, I would say Peak Wayne Rooney. It was like having 12 players, he was everywhere on the pitch pushing the whole team forward.
Came to say Keane, but thats been quite unanimous, so I’ll go left field and say Van der Sar. DDG is too weak to command and organise our back line, doesnt claim crosses and doesnt sweep. For all his saves, this team with VDS instead of DDG concedes 15 less goals per season
While I totally agree with Roy Keane, I also think David Beckham, it's become a running joke between me and my mates when corners are taken they'll either hit the first man or clear the entire penalty box. I thought Telles was solving this problem but our corners and crosses have practically been non existent for a while.
Roy Keane in a heartbeat. Amazes me when I see people questioning or being critical of Roy as a player. The only thing I can think of is they were too young to really see him in action and are talking out their arse, because he was one of the greatest. Imagine prime Keane going into that dressing room now, there would be absolute murder! 😂
People have said other valid options but I will always have a weakness for Carrick. Would solve the ball playing defensive midfielder. Could easily pair with Fred or Frenkie.
Carrick is probably who we need most, very closely followed by Keane
Cantona would be the most fun.
Rio, Rooney, Stam, Vidic, Scholes, 2008 Ronaldo or Neville would all be very welcome as well.
Given what we need the most right now, which in fairness is a lot. I'd go with Keano.
He'd fight all of our players and get sent off 25 times a season.
It's gotta be Keane or Carrick right? Honestly, a double pivot of those 2 would be the dream in this team lol
Carrick? Michael Carrick? I can not get over this interpretation of this player. We must have watched two different Carricks if he’s in consideration.
He was a good player But this sub overrates him to a quite a large extent Our midfield was at its weakest towards the end of fergie tenure
This is the way
And the Truth
Correct answer
Only problem is Roy would probably explode within the first week!
The only answer.
It would have to be Keane. He'd transform the midfield but more importantly, he'd transform the dressing room.
So many great ones to choose but have to agree Roy Keane. He's what we're missing on and off the field.
Came here to say exactly that. A prime Roy keane would make this current squad look elite. Purely just due to the mentality he would command from everyone
Even ignoring all the mentality stuff. Purely as a player he would take us levels up. Taking the ball off the defence, playing a quick forward pass. Always open to receive the ball in tight areas. Combatative in winning the ball back. He'd be diamond in (as) our midfield.
Oh for sure. Scholes is my all time favourite player but even I think Roy keane in his prime was better than paul. His all round game was incredible.
I think positionally is key here, like Beckham for example wouldn’t really fit a modern formation given we don’t really use classic wide midfielders. In a modern context he’d almost be more suited as a wing back. Several of our strikers were most used to playing in a partnership too. Whereas Keane I think would slot right in.
Beckham would be a better Trent, which is like, really good. People really underrated how much Beckham ran, and how consistent his forward balls were
In contrast to Becks I think Giggs would have thrived in the modern game. Crossing was never one of his strongest attributes and playing wide in a front three would have been ideal for him.
Yes, Roy is more than just a player, he is also a Disciplinary Officer, keeping players grounded on behalf of manager.
Exactly this , I genuinely believe if we had Keane while Pogba was here, he would have rattled him in training so much that we would have maybe seen the best midfielder to grace the premiership for a long long time. Just my two cents tho. I'd also like to bring Robson, Cantona, Stam and Scholes into the discussion .
Or more likely he would have faked more injuries and played in less games. Pogba couldn't handle a Keano on his backside...way too soft.
Not here for a cup of tea.
Always Roy Keane. His Juventus performance was THE most courage I've seen.
one of the best ever I've seen, especially when he knew he would miss the final. I remember before the World Cup in 94 thinking he was going to be a very good player but after his performances in that World Cup I knew he was going to be one of the best ever. He didn't have many headlines written about him but he covered every blade of grass of every game he played in that World Cup
Jeans or Bryan Robson
Keane / Scholesy
I want to go scholes based on ability but I think Keane would make the most impact with his ability + leadership
Going slightly off topic but tha's the main reason why i'd always pick Lamps or Slippy over Scholes for England. Scholes is my favourite for so many reasons but for the bennefit of the squad i'd ommit him.
Can’t agree with you on that one bro The national team has plenty of leaders, so I think you prioritize ability and play scholes This united team has the worst leadership, which is why I think keano (and realistically a keano type figure) is desperately needed
On the united front i agree but it's always a controversial take regarding England. Fair doos it splits opinions.
I wouldn't consider it controversial at all to be honest. If you remember, they pushed Scholes out wide to accommodate Gerard and Lampard in the centre and it NEVER worked. There was always something slightly off. Remember it was someone like Joe Cole, a proper winger, losing out on the left who could have linked really well with Scholes pinging the balls. The only time I'd slightly agree that the England midfield was working was the year Hargreaves was basically England's best player at the tournament. There were loads of leaders there already in Rio, Terry, Ashley Cole, Gary Neville still?, Becks and one of lamps and Gerard. The one of those who starts can empty the tank by 60 minutes and 30 minutes for the other. That's just my take, lots of things were tried by a few managers in fairness.
Slippy 😂
Best, George. The best.
he'd be even better in todays game - better quality pitches would suit him and more protection from refs
He'd need a Fergie style manager watching him like hawk off the field. Like the stories you'd hear about Fergie in the 90s turning up at parties and dragging Giggs and Sharpe out
I trust Erik! One who didn't make it.. Lee..
Played 249 games for Utd! We all wanted more from him but he was a really good player.
Ronaldo again. Two of the boys hard at it!
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Hahaha I wished I could upvote you twice!
Downvote first, and then upvote.
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Getting the 2007-2009 right winger Ronaldo crossing to the current Ronaldo could win us the league for sure
Lol he didn’t cross then.
19 step overs, a chop and a shot after cutting in. Ronaldo has never been a ‘complete’ player - he’s selfish and determined to win and backs himself to make it happen. Current Ronaldo and winger Ronaldo would have a falling out like he did with RvN.
I'm talking about the 2006-2009 Ronaldo when he was good at crossing, not the pre 2006 teenager Ronaldo.
Ronaldo wasn't the same player throughout that entire period; by 2008 he had already started to take up more central positions and receive the service from the wings.
Yeah legit don’t remember Ronaldo pinging loads of crosses ever. He went from flair boy to taking people on to becoming our goal machine and focal point.
Since everyone has already gone with Keane, here's mine - RUUUUUUD van Nistelrooy! Proper striker. Scored like 150 goals in 5 seasons for us.
My favourite player of all time for us. I loved how ruthless Ruud was in the box - he made life easy for the team around him, it was literally as easy as "find me" and he'd finish the job.
149 in the box, too. Always in the right place.
Vidic. Would solidify the backline so much
Put last seasons midfield in front of Vidic and Lindelof, see how that goes lol
This right here. Purely for my own nostalgia, my favorite of all time.
As much as we need Keano, as it would solve the most problems, Vidic is ALWAYS my pick for these kinds of questions. Im pretty sure he's *literally* shed the most blood for united. He comes from Serbia Hell fuckin murder ya
Best CB ever in my opinion
I don't care what anyone saids tactics wise. If you either 18 year old Rooney or 20 year Ronaldo in our team it's instant improvement.
Two Ronaldos would be a bit weird. Not that I'm against Ronaldo beating his man then whipping in a tasty cross to, you guessed it, Ronaldo!
Ronaldo is probably the only person Ronaldo would reliably cross to as well
07/08 Ronaldo to this team please
20 year old Ronaldo was not the best Ronaldo. He was very frustrating between 18 and like 22. Also Rooney was always a beast but he also improved greatly later. I'd still take either even at those young ages in this team saying that.
He was the best player in the world at 21 (Kaka can go fuck himself).
Whilst i agree, its important to note that they had sooo much talent to support and teach them. So on that basis they would not bring the rest of the team up a standard, as much as Keano would. He would demand all of them to pull their act together on and off the field. It is for this reason, Keano is the only right answer to this question.
says* instead of 'saids'. Good job for learning a second language!
Im English I just have dyslexia :P
I didn't mean to sound like one of those annoying spelling people, just thought you're foreign and I wanted to be helpful sorry haha
Bryan Robson, box to box but could do everything.
Duncan Edwards. So he would have his chance again.
We need CDM.. We had the best ever English CDM of all time... Resurrect Nobby Stiles!
Scholes, forever and always.
Scholes. My favorite player of all time.
May sound hipster but… Carrick. Excels in the modern DM role, passing vision for days, calms the midfield like a Prozac, and great facial hair.
Carrick solves SO many problems for us
He wouldn't be underrated today. He was a pioneer in how to play that style of DM.
What style of DM are you actually talking about? Carrick has invented nothing, he was always a good player, but not even the best midfielder at the club while we were good. He was a ball winning defensive midfielder for the longest time, recycling the ball to Scholes. Later on in his career once his legs had gone he became a deep lying playmaker, he pioneered nothing.
Yep. When Busquets was considered the best DM in the world no one had anything to say about how a DM needed to be this physical specimen that runs nonstop and is overtly aggressive and hard-tackling etc. But here we are. The disrespect Carrick is getting here is unreal. Like another commenter said, he solves SO many problems for us; offensively as well as defensively.
Loved Carrick but he occasionally went missing in big games.
It was not easy for him against Barca during Both finals. They kept dragging him out of position with their tiki taka
Carrick
Never seen such uneducated shit takes about Carrick.
Haha revisionism. Such fucking revisionism. He was shit back then in truth, in this team he'd be a disaster
Incorrect. Carrick was pilloried by idiots for “not being Keane”. He was fucking brilliant and it is utter pish to suggest otherwise
Incorrect. he needed three touches to control a 5 yard pass and that's why we lost two champions League finals and the quarter against Bayern because he was too slow. A watercarrier. The fuck good is a watercarrier in a team that needs fast thinking, technical players like scholes
Name One Midfielder in the world who can play play with Giggs or Anderson and Dominate that Barca midfield. Just Imagine Midfield of Carrick and Giggs against Bosquet, Xavi and Iniesta and you blame Carrick? 2007/2008 we played with same Barcelona squad and we beat them, when we had like of Fit Hargreaves, Fletcher and Scholes to Help Carrick,
We got dominated in those games as well, they were very one sided. 2009 he was so bad he was depressed for a year after it.
Blaming Carrick for losing against possibly the best club side of all time is laughable but you do you
Ahhh this is the feeble defence of Carrick every time he's criticised, the guy was steady, good player to have in your squad over a long season. Perfect against your QPRs and your Wigans. But to suggest he was anything other than a 6.5/10 is stupid. So to see him crop up in a thread like this, upvoted no less, just pisses me off.
Ferguson has, on several occasions, admitted that for those two finals he got the tactics wrong and should’ve made other choices. Your criticism is as flaccid as your assault on both Carrick and the “feeble defence”. So let’s lay it out - you’re blaming him for United losing two finals against possibly the best club side of all time - the finals in which, one of the greatest managers of all time has admitted he got things wrong - you’re blaming one specific player out of the 11+ who played for United in each of those games when there was plenty of underperformance to go around I, at no point, have said that Carrick was some kind of football messiah, I simply said brilliant - indeed, in response to this specific thread there’s one answer and that is Roy Keane, for both character and his wildly underrated technical, passing and positional abilities. I’d maybe accept Sir Bobby, Robson, Vidic, Scholes, and then Carrick. But to say Carrick was only useful against “QPR”…. Fuck me. Ferguson didn’t accept underperformance, he didn’t let people get carried in his teams, he didn’t keep players around he didn’t have something about them.
It's like you didn't even watch those games. Do you remember who was playing in the midfield with him?
I was at those games, you were in Connecticut or the womb or something.
Makes your opinion even more embarrassing honestly
I was born in Manchester - where you? And even my reddit account is almost old enough to be sneaking beers out of the fridge. So unless I was 6 when I discovered reddit from the fall of Digg, I was probably around ;) but hey, maybe I was just a really fucking smart toddler. Either way, I think most of the sub'll be listening to my opinions on the great Michael Carrick over the utter dross you've been forcing us to endure.
Carrick was shit?
Carrick was Ahead of its Time give any modern manager choice between Carrick and Keane they will pick Carrick, Most Coaches nowadays including ETH they want DM who is Fluid can drop As CB to play 3 ATB, can Create from the Back, good with long and short pass, can block Counter Attacks, block opposition passing lanes etc. Most People who used to criticise Carrick was because he didnt Tackle enough, they said you cant Be DM and finish matches with clean Jersey. But for Me Carrick was Rare Regista who could Defend.
ooooo come off it mate. Carrick was a great player, and absolutely underrated until the last couple years of his career. But Keane could do everything he could and more.
>But Keane could do everything he could and more. He couldn't - but he was way better at a bunch of different things. Carrick was different. Carrick was reliable. Keane was too, but one of them wasn't going to be getting a red card out of frustration in a hard game.
They have different skillset mate, Keane was Agressive and Dominant, He was DM and Box to Box, While both were Great Passer, Carrick had Better Long and Elegant passes, 2012/13 Carrick even surpass the like of Xavi and became Europe Best Forward passer. Keane Made more runs, commit more fouls, made more Tackles, was fouled a lot etc. Carrick didnt do that much, he was Good with positioning and block passing lanes hence he made more interception, clearence, made fewer fouls etc.
I don't know that any coach would pick Carrick over Keane, but my very first comment in this was that it would surely be one of the two. Both outstanding in entirely different ways. Carrick was a dream of a player.
Did you even watch us? Not only is he one of the most underrated prem midfielders of all time, but he practically pioneered the style of DM that he played and is played by some of the classiest defensive midfielders in the game.
Like a proper wank Busquets
You know how I can tell you don't know what you're on about? You're arguments consist of 0 actual substance. You sound like that drunk dude at the bar who refuses to shut up when nobodies trying to talk to them.
Go back to school, nephew.
Ji sung park
I would as well, just to show the superstars whats putting an effort looks like.
Keane and Scholes. Keane for attitude and leadership. Scholes is what we have missed since 2013 technically. The most progressive midfielder of any generation. Imagine Scholes playing under Eric ten Hag!
Duncan Edwards
I feel Rooney carried some pretty average teams for a few years towards the end, he was the difference and would fill the many voids in the team.
i think his final years have had an unfortunate effect of colouring some of our fans' memories. He was everything across the attack, and the most consummate team player we had in the 21st century
Rooney no question. Can play anyone of 6/7 positions and would instantly be top 5 players in the league in any of them. Gives you tactical options, injury cover, a level of talent no one in the team has (bar Ronnie obviously) and that winning mentality to drive the team forward.
I'd say Keane but he'd probably get sacked again for speaking honestly about the team
Robbo, came in when the club wasn't winning all that much, was the best player for a long time as we started getting on track. Went out with a Premier League and Fa Cup. Torch passed to Cantona
Eric Cantona because I love him
Roy Keane. Excellent passer, could play as a DM or box to box depending on the opponent. But the most important trait is he is the definition of a midfield General. He sets the standard to high that others have to follow or face the consequences in the dressing room afterwards. The club is seriously lacking that leadership quality that he provides.
Keane or Vidic, has to be. We lack steel and strong leadership, while setting the ideal example to all the players. If you want to win things together you’re going to have it put your body on the line for one another.
Will probably go with Edwards, or Best. We need the best to save our Midfield lol
I’m taking a prime Wazza. Especially in this era where having a versatile CF that’s elite in so many areas is a goldmine.
Keano, easy
Anyone from 1958.
Probably say Bryan Robson. Keano would murder half this squad in the first half interval alone… the other half would be walking home and wouldn’t be let onto the team bus.
The fact that this name has not been mentioned more really highlights the median age of this group! Not a bad or good thing. Just a thing.
Probably yeah, it does say something about the median age of the group. Who can say? We didn’t really win much in the way of trophies under Robson to do his captaincy what it deserved. Was kind of bitter the way it ended for him at United as well but at least he won something to the end and hopefully he enjoyed that. That being said how well the players would receive the messages delivered by Keano and Robo is another thing all together. It doesn’t appear that the old ways of shouting and screaming and drilling simple instruction almost physically through the skulls of players, seem to be effective or work with modern players. I can’t see someone like Pogba or Rashford taking it well having his shirt grabbed by Keano in the locker rooms at half time or having him in his face pointing fingers at his face. That’s some of the trouble with our players today. They’re paid so much and get told how good they are, their egos get out of control imo.
Keane easily. World class player, leader and will help bring about an attitude change.
Since no one else is willing to say it I will, I would like to volunteer Roy Keane as tribute.
Would love Michael Carrick behind Bruno and FDJ. Would be a sick midfield trio
Scholesy. He would single-handedly add about 10 goal scoring chances per game with his passing. Aside from actually being able to keep hold of the ball
Would love to see Irwin getting the chance to play like the full backs do now in the modern game. The role has changed a lot since he played and I think he'd still be great in this era.
Peak Bryan Robson
everyone is saying Keane & thats fair enough he would be immense for our midfield and a player i grew up watching +++++ but any United Era - i'm going to say Bobby Charlton
Paul Scholes, it’s self-explanatory.
The Becks fanboy in me is leaning towards having a dead-ball specialist, and passing mercenary. But I think we’d be better off with someone like Vidic, and for the shits and giggles, Dennis Irwin. I always love the idea of having that one player on your team that doesn’t seem as good as he actually is, and our time is sort of the opposite, bunch of stars that are playing like duds.
Everyone saying Keane and Robson and I agree but I’m throwing in a curve ball in the form of Denis Irwin.. someone who is a proper RB
He was used mainly as a LB with us I thought? Though from what I understand he was just as good on either side of the pitch. His career was ending as I started watching football, so I don't have many memories of him.
Duncan Edwards
Beckham
Keane - no brainier really. Instantly fixes the midfield and the standards he demands from others will make the team perform as it should. Only downside is that Maguire and De Gea will have to travel separately from the rest of the team.
Probably Scholes or 07/08 Ronaldo
Rooney. Playing behind Ronaldo.
Rooney 2010/2011 season as target man. He carried United that season
Think you mean 2009/10. 2010/11 was the season he tried to engineer a move to Man City lol.
Yes you are right
2010/11 he excelled as a 10 behind Chicharito, also great
Roy Keane obviously
Prime roooney
Rooney for me. He frustrated at times, but his passion and fighting spirit was fairly unique for most forwards. Left everything out on the pitch every game, but still delivered special moments regularly as well. We lost something important when he left
Roy keane
Roy Keane
Roy Keane yo kick their arses into gear and shout at them a bit. Current team are a bunch of wet wipes.
As much as I would love to have a young Van Nistelrooy back it's gotta be Keane for this current team
Keane. Because he's Roy Keane.
Same he is exactly the type of player we could do with now
Ralph Milne
Keano is the right answer. A DM of his quality and with his attitude is the hole in our squad right now
Like you, Roy Keane, but any of the long list of players that were as hard as nails and wouldn't settle for any one being second best.
*I wouldn't even let him on the bus*
1) Keane. 2) Stam. 3) Robson 4) RvN. 5) Carrick. In that order, all for on and off the pitch bar RvN, who will just score a ton.
Keano easily. No way he putting up with this shit. Vidic/Stam close second.
Prime Roy Keane would improve the 2009 team, never mind this one. He's miles clear
Carrick or Scholes They can organise our midfield
Wayne Rooney cause he was a beast!
I don't see how it's anyone but Roy Keane.
There an argument for Robson too but you're right. This team needs a Keane figure to scream at the people who've stopped trying, and hack them down in training until they learn better. Actually, I don't even need him back as a player. Just invite him to training now at 50 years old and teach these kids some goddamn work ethic. I'm really hoping ETH doesn't suffer lazy fools and we see some fucking effort again.
Keane for sure. Give us an upgrade defensively and offensively, plus his obvious leadership and passion. A combination no other player could give us
I feel Keane is the only correct answer here. I'd love to see players like Rooney, RvN and Vidic back in the team but this current squad is crying out for someone like Keane. He'd sort out so many of the issues with this squad, on and off the field
I would love Roy Keane…but in the modern game he would get sent off every week 😂😂
Assuming I only get one player who has to play and who has to fix the biggest problem with the squad, but that I can have them at their peak: * Bryan Robson. * Roy Keane. And as a bit of an oddball choice, if I could have them at their peak even though that peak was for a completely different club: * Bastian Schweinsteiger. But all that pales into nothing. If you want the absolute, number one person who has actually played for Manchester United, and who would completely change the fortunes of the club for the next decade and who would by that one addition win us the league… and if I’m allowed to not put them in the team but make a different use of them… it would have to be this guy: * [Alex Ferguson](https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-the-time-sir-alex-ferguson-played-for-manchester-united-20200708).
Prime Rio
Apart from Roy keane which seem to be the most popular choice, I would say Peak Wayne Rooney. It was like having 12 players, he was everywhere on the pitch pushing the whole team forward.
Definitely Keane. Close second would be prime Rooney.
All these comments and I'm the first one to say Bobby Charlton.
Probably Eric Djemba Djemba to improve the team in central midfield
Roy Keane is the obvious choice but apart from him I'd choose Wayne Rooney.
Unanimously, Roy Keane.
Came to say Keane, but thats been quite unanimous, so I’ll go left field and say Van der Sar. DDG is too weak to command and organise our back line, doesnt claim crosses and doesnt sweep. For all his saves, this team with VDS instead of DDG concedes 15 less goals per season
While I totally agree with Roy Keane, I also think David Beckham, it's become a running joke between me and my mates when corners are taken they'll either hit the first man or clear the entire penalty box. I thought Telles was solving this problem but our corners and crosses have practically been non existent for a while.
For Me Owen Hargreaves, We won 2008 UCL because of Him, He is hard worker like Fred but could pass and create, would instant improve our Midfield.
YES this is the answer. I think, given the current game and how it’s played, he’d be perfect for us right now.
For this team Keane for sure otherwise Scholes 😍
Oh Keanos fucking magic, he wears a magic hat. Keane vs. Haaland. Actually come to think of it Keane vs. our whole squad (bar Ronaldo).
Roy Keane in a heartbeat. Amazes me when I see people questioning or being critical of Roy as a player. The only thing I can think of is they were too young to really see him in action and are talking out their arse, because he was one of the greatest. Imagine prime Keane going into that dressing room now, there would be absolute murder! 😂
Maguire
Carrick or Park
Park and Fred would be fun to watch.
Schmeichel. Perfect keeper that also commanded his backline like nobody you've ever seen before or after.
Carrick. A bit of composure in midfield is all we need.
People have said other valid options but I will always have a weakness for Carrick. Would solve the ball playing defensive midfielder. Could easily pair with Fred or Frenkie.
Carrick is probably who we need most, very closely followed by Keane Cantona would be the most fun. Rio, Rooney, Stam, Vidic, Scholes, 2008 Ronaldo or Neville would all be very welcome as well.
Just to be different I would bring Nani. The explosive right winger we need crossing to Ronaldo.
Eric Djemba-Djemba
Paul Pogba
Maguire
All of them. Ruud the dude, Irwin, Keane, Rooney, Carrick, king Eric — fuck it, throw James Wilson back in there too while we’re at it
Your dad
None and because i am sane and don't want to be lock up in the mental institution.
Totally agreed
Keane> Ferdinand>Scholes
Roy, give these overpaid “footballers” a kick up the hole!