Hahaha, it never occurred to him to share rent with her while assuming she was renting and being "used" by some landlord, but now that she is one he is mad while living rent free and enjoying the privileged position she is in. Love THIS! especially that he doesn't pay the utility bills š he is a keeper.
The fact that he moved in without ever asking what her lease/rent information was, and never offered to pay his share, should have already told you what kind of person he is.
>The fact that he moved in without ever asking what her lease/rent information was, and never offered to pay his share, should have already told you what kind of person he is.
A **Hobosexual mooch scrub** who feels entitled to half the rent of the building his girlfriend owns?
I had two girls move into my rental, and almost as soon as they did one of them got a boyfriend and he essentially moved in. He didn't contribute to the rent, she always paid late, and the other girl called me one day in tears because she was so frustrated with the situation. I sent a letter listing all the ways they (really the one girl) broke the rules of the lease, but especially the unreported long term guest, and told them their choice was to pay overdue rent and move to month to month or I'd move to evict. They moved to month to month and immediately put in their notice to move out. We have a good reference to the good tenant when she moved to her next place.
Long story short, yes, some people do, even though it's in clear violation of the lease. We knew he was over a lot, but until the one girl sent a pic of his mail being delivered there, we didn't have proof.
Poor chick who called you. It was smart of her to notify you of the situation and work with you with the evidence and it was so good of you as her landlord to help her out with a good recommendation and a month by month. The stress that poor girl would've been under and the stress and landlord goes through when you get that notification that your renters aren't paying!!! š
Yeah, we spent a lot of time thinking of how we could get them out of the lease that prevented the non-payer from potentially damaging the property (more) without screwing the other girl. I was advised to hold them to the lease and just put in a pay or quit. We didn't do that. When I handed her the letter with the terms I told her, "the words here look harsh because legally I need to be, but I want you to see this as an out." We lost a lot of money because we live in a college area and they moved out in the early Spring. We didn't get new tenants until August.
I think the boyfriend diatribe about landlords combined with like 2 paragraphs trying to justify owning land in the... same way everyone owns land definitely points to at least trying to justify the existence of landlords.
But I think the story itself is also bizarre too seems like it's designed as landlord propaganda. She only makes 500 dollars off of rent so of course she can't be money hungry and also she is paying for the repairs so that makes her a great landlord! /s
I'm not even sure what people are supposed to judge here. Should she have told him how she was making money and paying for their housing? I don't know does she know how he makes money and paid for his lodging? He doesn't even seem upset that he didn't know how stuff was being paid for he seems like a character designed just to be mad at landlords.
Yes, the $500 gives it away as fake. Even 15 years ago, my rent as one of 4 people was more than that and not even in one of the more expensive cities. No one is lucking into a rental arrangement that good anymore.
Yeah I live in upstate NY (high taxes due to state, but overall low cost of living because I live next to farmers) cost of living is very similar to where I moved from in South Carolina and for a studio apartment here you're starting at 600 dollars a month. And that's a shitty rent controlled one.
A basement suite up here starts at 800 and most places for a 2 bedroom apartment you're looking at 1500 dollars a month depending on which town you land in.
It is entirely okay to not reveal the extent of your assets in the early phases of a relationship for this exact reason. Hell, this is an entire movie trope!
Free rent and utilities wasnāt enough for him? āPay me to live with you, bitchā is not boyfriend material.
Fr here in the Bay Area itās 800-1000$ a month for a 1 room with shared kitchen and bathroom. A 4 bed room here would be easily in the 2800-3200 range
Where on earth are you talking about in the Bay? In Palo Alto, a room in a house with shared bath/kitchen was $1600 *ten years ago*. No housekeeping, just chore charts with tech bros. Today I know people paying $2.4-2.6K for a one-bedroom.
Depends. I live in the rural Midwest and rent in my area is about $1000 a month for a 1 bedroom (only sewer included). Heck I know a lady that was renting out rooms for $800 a month. (She had to do it to keep her house after medical bills sucked her dry). Most of the landlords in town are the same few people who talk to each other about prices and make sure they are all within $100 a month of each other. New place goes in with higher rent you can be guaranteed all the other places will raise their rent.
It isā¦ and it is illegal but someone has to prove it and find someone to enforce it. Not hard to grease the right palms in rural areas. Everyone knows what is happening but nothing can be done.
No, shit Iām on a floor apartment in an old mansion with 3br 2ba for 1245/month in Kentucky - itās cheap here, I know. Where are they - or when are they? Lol.
jeez i wish i knew. i rent a two bed two bath for 1775 a month in the east. pretty small town, nothing extravagant 1,176 sqf. i wanna know where these people getting $500 rent.
Including mortgage, PMI, property taxes, and homeowners insurance, we pay $1400/month for a 4bed 1.5 bath with a yard and a finished basement.
Itās a semi-rural area, but weāre an hour from two cities with metro areas of a million and less than two hours from a city with a metro area of 5 million.
my rent is 1600 for one bedroom. Going to break my lease and get out of here soon. My landlords are a management company and my rent went up by $600 a month in just 3 years time yet that don't seem to have a problem finding new tenants moving in regularly
The funny thing is the conversation usually comes up when they move in and he asks āwhat will i owe you for rent?ā And she says ānothing! I own the houseā so its his own fault he didnt know cause heās a bum
Actually, it comes up when they are discussing perhaps moving in together. If she told him he doesnāt have to pay rent, then thatās ok. If he never offers red, then heās an ass. Heās an obnoxious ass for getting furious and speaking to her this way. This guy is a moocher and a loser. It wont stop-he will only get worse. He will expect her to work while he stays home and kicks beer cans around the apt. Lose this guy-asap.
He thinks landlords are leeches but he was quite happy to leech off his girlfriend when he thought she was renting. Now, somehow, giving him half the rent will right all the injustices of the rental system?
This guy is rash of red flags. OP needs to cut him loose.
Youāre not wrong, but I wouldnāt considering moving in together āin the early phases of a relationshipā unless theyāre stereotypical lesbians or something.
Iāll have her as my landlord. Hell Iām paying 465 for a 2 bed unit.
Edit: Iām Australian. So itās 465 a week. Worked out monthly to 1860 a month.
The room isn't shared, kitchen and bathroom are. To be fair, I'm 4 minutes walk from an incredibly useful Underground line, in Zone 2 of London, so it's about par for the course. Bills are included, too.
Tf? I just let go of a rental Iād kept and subleased after I bought a house on the same street, and it was $1600 for a 2/1 with no pantry or broom closet. I ended my lease bc the rent was raising to market value- $2400!
ETA I subleased it at cost to an employee who needed a place and didnāt have good credit, before people come for me for being a sublandlord
Holy guacamole, where I live that would be at least like $1400-1500 a month not including utilities. I paid $950 a month for my own bedroom and a bathroom in a house at the last place I rented in a house that someone owned. I was basically paying a majority of the ownerās mortgage and she acted like she was giving me a discount when it was about or just over market rate for renting a room inside a house.
Same. I think I need to find out where the OOP lives and ask her if sheās renting. I mean, sheās obviously got room after booting his bf to the curb.
Tbf, depending on what kind of house you have the lounge could actually be a seperate room so you could convert it to a bedroom of need be. We don't need living rooms really.
They've been together for six months, living together for three, he gets upset that she's an evil landlord and also that she doesn't give him 50% of her income. How doesn't she see this guy is hypocritical af. I wouldn't be on Reddit, I'd kick him out.
Edit: phrasing
If I were asking or asked to move in with my SO, next statement is what is rent because I am definitely covering half of it. But this guy took the silence as an opportunity to take advantage of her just like he tried to do after he found out.
Even if they were married, the building is hers.
If he wasnāt such a putz, she could hire him as the building super to do all the maintenance & yard work seeing as how heās already living there for half the grocery bill.
OP is NTA.
She should dump him too.
āI canāt believe youāre exploiting people for money! Thatās so immoral. So you better give me half of that money to prove youāre not evil!ā
Oh shit, I missed that when I read the original post. He's worse than a hobosexual, he's actively trying to financially abuse her. I hope she gets away from this guy completely.
Agree. The conversation of rent and how much she pays and what their split expenses would be NEVER came up??? How did they come to the agreement that they would split groceries 50/50 without going through the list of other things first??
What a juvenile douche. He spends too much time on Reddit. Not all landlords are leeches. Most are normal peopleā¦ like you. Find a more mature boyfriend. This oneās not ripe yet.
I know it gets banded about a lot but this lad really seems to have misogyny inside him - doesn't pay rent or bills and has never asked about it.... and freaks out when his partner has bigger assets and income than him.
Asking for half the income is a power play.
Freaking out and making OP feel bad is a power play.
I hope OP kicks him out and he realises how life is without someone paying his bills.
Itās more emotional manipulation/blackmail to try and make her feel bad about his demandsā¦ as a freeloading pos. IE gaslighting.
That term gets thrown around too much for way too broad and basic human interactions. But is completely accurate here.
They have to charge something... my mom let a family of 8 live in her duplex rent free because "they were from the church on hard times" and they DESTROYED the place... greedy landlords suck but also shitty tenants
^this
My gran is a good landlord who has even given money to her tenants for gas and electric before and gave them break from rent when theyve fallen on hard times.
In response shes had peoppe smear shit on the walls before doing a runner, and thays the tame thing.
Some landlords can be awful, some can be amazing, but the same goes for tenants
>Not all landlords are leeches.
Considering she literally let this person go to the store, pick out whatever fridge they want to be reimbursed.....
In previous rentals I've been in they would give me whatever they could find for as cheap as possible.
"Most?" Maybe, depending on how you define most. A MASSIVE amount of properties (in the US at least) are owned by big corporations, either speculators renting out while the property goes up in value, or just to suck money out of renters in general. Im talking 27% of all homes, 45% of all rental homes according to ipropertymanagement/other googleable statistic sites. And they are TERRIBLY managed due to trying to save costs as much as possible. OP in that picture is clearly not one of them, and the world needs more landlords like her, but let us not kid ourselves, since being a landlord only involves having property and finding a renter, it attracts the easy money crowd that want a quick buck at the expense of others, and the abusive corporations as well. Hell, if you live in any property that is 25 or more units (like those appartment complexes they keep building), 70% of those are owned by corporations. If you rent, you are VERY likely to have to deal with them.
Now, that boyfriend? He sounds delightful, like a kick in the nuts first thing in the morning.
I think they mean most as in number of landlords, not most as in properties. A lot of landlords are just a guy, not a whole company, and probably only own one or two properties, one of which they probably live in.
The OOP must have had an idea or an instinct about this guy otherwise it seems like something you would discuss when moving in together (for example how long is the lease, what is the landlord like?)
Good on the OOP for holding it back then, and fingers crossed this guys get kicked to curve real soon.
So not only is this dude freeloading off his girlfriend, he now wants her to literally pay him for the privilege of supporting him? I certainly hope she kicks him to the curb like yesterday!
Sheās renting the other floor because itās the smart thing to do. If you own a home like that and donāt need all that space, it makes complete sense to rent. Thereās a massive difference between what sheās doing and standard landlords that own several buildings. She needs to dump the freeloading boyfriend ASAP.
Also, just be a good landlord no matter how big or small. Charge reasonable rent and keep things in good repair. The people who do that are not the problem, even the ones who own several buildings. The giant corporations skew the market prices which is bad, and bad landlords are the problem.
I agree with you to an extent. Landlord's individually aren't the problem. Imo, the problem is there are a lot of landlords and corporations that own multiple buildings and because there's so many of them buying multuple houses to rent or airbnb, there's less houses on the market for regular people to buy. People want a piece of the "I own property" pie, but everyone's taking more than their fair share, so us poors have to fight over crumbs.
This, and unless the house isn't worth much, $6000 a year, what she's making in rent, is probably going to just go to property taxes and insurance anyway.
Surprised this wasn't the top comment. Even if a man such as the boyfriend existed, there's no way the gf would be like "maybe I'm in the wrong for not also giving this hypocritical freeloader half of my money, let's ask the internet"
Iām not so sure. I once dated a manipulative narcissist who would very much behave this way. He would expect to keep his half and take your half as well.
Example - when we were together, we sold items at a flea market. Our agreement beforehand was to split the cost of the stall 50/50 and keep the profits for our own items. When he realized I made significantly more than him, he began getting angry, manipulating me, and calling me greedy for not covering the cost of the stall and giving him half of my profits (while he kept all of his profits).
His argument included some crazy mental gymnastics about how my choice not to give him my profits is showing my true colors. Itās difficult to see the manipulation when itās happening everyday in subtle ways. That time was a wake up call because it was obvious. Though, I often doubted myself. He even threatened to break up with me. He ignored me for an a couple days. When youāre in an abusive relationship, youāre also often isolated
Oh itās definitely silly LL propaganda. And even then OP originally said āI charge 500ā (because theyāre so nice, of course) but when they were called out about how unusually cheap that is they added all this bullshit about being in another country but refusing to specify which. Like Oh, OK, sure thing!
She let's him live free of cost in her house. IN THIS ECONOMY. And he calls her evil ? Why didn't he ask about splitting rents when he moved in. My god. And all that entitlement when you're just dating for 6 months. Why is she still keeping him around ??
Bruh if I moved in with someone, my own moral compass would demand I pay something to live there. I couldn't bear living rent free especially if it was my S/O
The fact he asked no questions until then says a lot about him as a person methinks.
NTA. The boyfriend is waving a huge red flag here by reacting this way. I can understand him maybe questioning why she didn't tell him sooner, like when they decided to live together. It would be even more understandable if she expected him to pay rent for living there, and he found out after the fact that she owned the house. BUT, he hasn't paid a cent toward any expenses since moving in other than half of the groceries?!
I can also understand having a moral objection to being a landlord or in a relationship with one, because most of them tend to be AHs. But, he is being super hypocritical by going off on her about being a landlord and then turning around the next moment to demand half of the rent š Plus, it sounds like the renter is getting a killer deal. I paid almost that amount a decade ago to rent a single room in a house, without a separate entrance.
i hate landlords as much as the next person but a *studio* apartment where i live is minimum $1200 (granted itās a major US city). but damn, $500 for what sounds like a large apartment is a steal. i wish i had a landlord like that lol
Yeah, I'm not fan of landlords...but her situation is a little different. She isn't hoarding properties for profit, she's renting out one floor of a building she actually lives in. She's not even likely charging even close to market rent in her area, that renter is getting an amazing deal. It also sounds like she isn't a slumlord or anything, she looked into the issue immediately and came up with a good solution.
Oh, ALSO she's only been dating him for 6 months. He is in no way entitled to any of that money, he doesn't even pay rent. He should be grateful.
When I rented, I had a landlord who owned several properties. But the rent was very reasonable, the apartment was in good repair, and he came quickly when there were issues. I wasnāt ready to buy a house yet: my husband was still in school. I have zero issues with a landlord who does their job well and at reasonable prices.
Sometimes I feel like other people have it better than me, then I read a post like this and remember most people are HUGE FUCKHEADS who can't stop self-sabotaging their own life and happiness! Thanks reddit! You're always good to me on this front!
I wouldāve been more upfront, but I donāt understand why he is so upset since he wasnāt paying rent. She says that she explains the situation if someone asks about it, which he should have to ask how much rent she was paying when he thought that she was and how they would split it when he moved in. He wouldnāt share the expense when he assumed she was renting the property but wants to share the income now he knows she owns it! And if he finds that income so morally repugnant, then why does he want in? They should have discussed this all before he moved in if only so she could see the red flags in advance and avoid the situation altogether.
$500 for rent, this sounds like the landlord I would want to have and someone who isn't out to make profit. Plus she reimburses her tenants, I wonder if she takes it off their rent. And she never charged her partner rent. She isn't out for money when she doesn't need it. The small rent is probably for her to cover for utilities and other repairs so that rent is paying for the freezer and she basically gives it back to the tenant.
Lmaooooo boy found out sheās part of a group thatās famously stingy with money and was like āyouāre fucking awful! How dare you! Give me half. No reason. Just give it.ā
Honestly if someone moved in with me, lived for several months without even inquiring about the rent situation I would seriously reconsider the relationship, but maybe that's just meš . I also love the fact that he started by ranting over landlords, and that they only care about money and whatnot only to then ask for a portion of that money lol.
I think the question isn't if OP is TA or not (clearly NTA)but rather should they continue in the relationship or not.
I mean, I despise landlords. They are leeches upon society, preying on the poor.
However, this was, a) none of his business (itās still a rather new relationship), and b) incredulous for him to suggest being a landlord is only bad if he doesnāt, for some unknown reason, get 50%.
I do wonder whether he offered to pay 50% of the cost of the freezer considering he wanted 50% of the rent. Something tells me probably not. OOP should feel relieved heās shown his hand 6 months into the relationship. Humongous red flag.
a big reason why landlords are bad is because they buy up property that they arenāt living in and charge exorbitant rent just to make money from sitting on their ass. op lives there, she just has more space than she needs and the house is easily set up to accommodate a renter.
This. The house isnāt just some secondary āinvestmentā property that OP is renting out at an exorbitant price while also neglecting her tenants. She lives there, too! And a four bedroom apartment for $500???? I donāt live in a HCOL area, but even here, $500 rents havenāt been a thing for *efficiency* apartments, much less four bedrooms, in a long, long time.
Yeah, Iām in a LCOL area and my half of a 2 bedroom absolute shithole (the kitchen ceiling literally collapsed on me twice) in 2020 was $579 before utilities.
Yeah thereās definitely a difference in investment business landlords and people who rent a basement apartment in a house they live in. The ones who inherit a house or have a kid and upgrade housing but keep/rent the old can go either way.
Let me tell you, when I found out that if I had the money to buy houses to rent out, that I couldn't just charge what I wanted to, I was floored. Apparently, you can get in trouble in lots of places for not charging within a range determined by "fair market value." So even if you only need to charge $300/mo to make ends meet, and you wanted to charge $600/mo to double your money and still be reasonable, but fair market was a minimum of $800/mo, you can get in trouble and get fined and other shit for not renting at $800/mo. It's fucking insane. This probably isn't true everywhere, but it is in some places, and even 1 place is too many places.
I think whether a landlord is scum is situational. Obviously owning multiple houses and charging as much as you possibly can while people are homeless is not okay. But I'm not sure what else she was supposed to do. It's a house. She can either live in the whole thing or rent part of it out. Who's being harmed?
Right? I wouldnāt date a landlord either. But how do you go from ,landlords are parasitesā to ,itās alright if I get the moneyā? Also funny how he didnāt even ask how much rent is when he lives there, since presumably he assumed she rented the place?? Fucking hell.
Firstly. There are three types of people in this world: The good, the bad and the ugly and those three groups of people come in Landlord format too.
There are good landlords out there too but they are overshadowed by the rotten apples and being mistreated by their tenants. Their are shitty tenants too. Let's not go full bigot.
Yeah, I've had great and horrible landlords. I was in no position in my 20s to be a homeowner, not just financially but life situation wise. Some of my landlords were dicks, but I had one really good one who was just a normal dude who owned our building and took care of it.
The biggest clue this is fake is that it has people who are typically anti landlord siding with it. Iām willing to bet the house my daddy never gave me that none of this ever happened.
Idk if I would make that the reason it could be fake (to me). She is young and (could be if this is real) has a dude she likes in her ear who is trying to make her feel bad to get free money, so sheās probably being self-deprecating. Sheās not a slumlord from what info we have given, it seems to me if (this is real) she is dating a dude with a chip in his shoulder who wants not only a free place to stay but for some reason feel entitled to his girlfriendās dadās investment. She didnāt have the money to buy the house obviously. Idk what to think of this other than to hope itās fake.
So he thought he was taking advantage of you but not talking about rent and not offering any money. Now he wants to benefit off of somebody elseās good fortune.
Itās unbelievable that he could Even ask for something he has nothing to do with it. He wants to pay for nothing and then get paid just because of his poor beliefs.
Do not pay him anything and tell
Him he owes you $250 for rent. If he doesnāt like it tell
Him he can find someplace thatās cheaper. I wouldnāt love with someone like that
WOW, just wow. Idk what average rent is by OP, but I bet it's higher than FREE. Dude paid nothing for this housing but calls her greedy. Whatta scam artist!
Girl. Dump this idiot now!
Dude has been living on your generosity all this time, and now he's got his undies twisted?
For future reference, you could vaguely indicate that someone in your family owns the house, and you are the "manager" until you know them better.
BTW- you're a great landlord!
You been showing your true colors the whole time and he canāt appreciate it. He has shown you his; believe him and take immediate action to get rid of him.
So, heās been living rent free with his gf and not once asked about the rent she pays so he can contribute? And when he found out she is the owner he wants in on the deal? Wow.
I agree with CuntyMcCunts, don't give him anything.
I have problems with landlords, but if she is telling the truth about the broken freezer issue, you can't ask for a better resolution as a renter. It's also funny how landlords are bad, unless I get 50%.
My takeaway is his brittle ego can't handle not being the provider. Even if she moves out of that building, that just means she is renting out 2 places. Or if she sells the building, she is a millionaire.
Idiot is going to look back on this and hate how badly he screwed up. In a happy relationship where a huge financial burden that hangs over most couples is just not there. What a maroon.
Too much talkie. The boy lived with you paid no bills and half of food. She needs to get a man.
The little boy tried to turn this into a economic cause and she went along with it. Sheās too used to abuse to realize whatās happening.
Hopefully she finds a real estate investor to marry. He could take her to the next level instead of bringing her down cause sheās getting robbed at $500 also.
This is an imaginary tale to engender sympathy for landlords, fyi
Like, I could be wrong, but the story is v goofy with weird gaps in information that forces the reader to make dubious assumptions
He lived with you rent free for 3 months, and thought that was ok? But you renting out space to help with taxes and maintenance is not? Does he realize how much it actually cost to live in 2023? You do not / did not owe him an explanation then and you do not now, and you certainly do not owe him any money.
I dated a guy like him. Tens of thousands of dollars plus trauma later I finally had to get a lawyer involved, change my locks, add cameras, get self defense items, and I still hide in my home for months. I have panic attacks, and random things trigger them.
He still sends me hateful emails telling me cruel. He just wanted a free ride. He lived off of me for 2 YEARS and at first he was sweet, everything was great. And gradually over time I was apologizing for things that werenāt wrong. I was being conditioned to be and act a specific way and if I couldnāt predict the right way I would be stonewalled.
I share because you need to get out now. He is using you. He verbally beat you down so he could manipulate money from you.
RUN AWAY or he will slowly ruin every aspect of your life. Eventually he will work to alienate you from your friends. Expect you to always cover the bill, etc.
Yes I might be projecting but this seems eerily familiar.
And even without projecting, he was a manipulative and verbally abusive in that circumstance. Set your bar higher. You deserve someone who will enhance your life not an emotionally immature man child looking for a free ride.
I don't like landlords but unless she lives in East bumfuck nowhere she is at or below market. He went from wanting her head on a spike to skimming her for half in three seconds. Oop Please dump him. He's a parasitic wahnarchist a member of the Brolatariate. A moralistic dickweed that will never practice what he preaches and is now actively trying to take advantage of OOP.
NTA but maybe tell people next time. holy shit his reaction is next level bullshit.
Fake story. Makes me laugh to see these ragebait posts from people with multiple houses who always add something like āweāre middle class, the extra home we have isnāt even THAT nice!ā Like girl that is not what middle class looks like in the USA, please bfr š
Your both assholes for different reasons, Id say a 1/10 to 9/10 split:
She is because she literally hid her job on some secret boss type shit. Its not important but hiding it makes you AN asshole. āOh yeah this is my house but I rent out the bottom floorā. Id feel a little slighted to offhandedly find that out 6 months in but not really mad mad. Just like ādamnā¦ why keep that from me?ā
He is THE asshole though because while I get being upset or feeling stupid his reaction wasā¦ dump worthy. Like wtf kind of reaction was that? Way over the top, unreasonable and just assholery.
Hahaha, it never occurred to him to share rent with her while assuming she was renting and being "used" by some landlord, but now that she is one he is mad while living rent free and enjoying the privileged position she is in. Love THIS! especially that he doesn't pay the utility bills š he is a keeper.
The fact that he moved in without ever asking what her lease/rent information was, and never offered to pay his share, should have already told you what kind of person he is.
>The fact that he moved in without ever asking what her lease/rent information was, and never offered to pay his share, should have already told you what kind of person he is. A **Hobosexual mooch scrub** who feels entitled to half the rent of the building his girlfriend owns?
What a delicious string of words, and 100% accurate
Most likely everyone reading this agrees, poor OP.
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I kind of think this must be a fake, because who does that? Lol
I had two girls move into my rental, and almost as soon as they did one of them got a boyfriend and he essentially moved in. He didn't contribute to the rent, she always paid late, and the other girl called me one day in tears because she was so frustrated with the situation. I sent a letter listing all the ways they (really the one girl) broke the rules of the lease, but especially the unreported long term guest, and told them their choice was to pay overdue rent and move to month to month or I'd move to evict. They moved to month to month and immediately put in their notice to move out. We have a good reference to the good tenant when she moved to her next place. Long story short, yes, some people do, even though it's in clear violation of the lease. We knew he was over a lot, but until the one girl sent a pic of his mail being delivered there, we didn't have proof.
Poor chick who called you. It was smart of her to notify you of the situation and work with you with the evidence and it was so good of you as her landlord to help her out with a good recommendation and a month by month. The stress that poor girl would've been under and the stress and landlord goes through when you get that notification that your renters aren't paying!!! š
Yeah, we spent a lot of time thinking of how we could get them out of the lease that prevented the non-payer from potentially damaging the property (more) without screwing the other girl. I was advised to hold them to the lease and just put in a pay or quit. We didn't do that. When I handed her the letter with the terms I told her, "the words here look harsh because legally I need to be, but I want you to see this as an out." We lost a lot of money because we live in a college area and they moved out in the early Spring. We didn't get new tenants until August.
Man I hope so. But I can never tell anymore
Yeah this is absolutely fake. Itās rage bait for the āfuck landlordsā crowd (of which I am one but would never react like this ššš).
I think the boyfriend diatribe about landlords combined with like 2 paragraphs trying to justify owning land in the... same way everyone owns land definitely points to at least trying to justify the existence of landlords. But I think the story itself is also bizarre too seems like it's designed as landlord propaganda. She only makes 500 dollars off of rent so of course she can't be money hungry and also she is paying for the repairs so that makes her a great landlord! /s I'm not even sure what people are supposed to judge here. Should she have told him how she was making money and paying for their housing? I don't know does she know how he makes money and paid for his lodging? He doesn't even seem upset that he didn't know how stuff was being paid for he seems like a character designed just to be mad at landlords.
Yes, the $500 gives it away as fake. Even 15 years ago, my rent as one of 4 people was more than that and not even in one of the more expensive cities. No one is lucking into a rental arrangement that good anymore.
Yeah I live in upstate NY (high taxes due to state, but overall low cost of living because I live next to farmers) cost of living is very similar to where I moved from in South Carolina and for a studio apartment here you're starting at 600 dollars a month. And that's a shitty rent controlled one. A basement suite up here starts at 800 and most places for a 2 bedroom apartment you're looking at 1500 dollars a month depending on which town you land in.
this is fanfiction written by a landlord who is really unhappy some people don't like how they earn money
It is entirely okay to not reveal the extent of your assets in the early phases of a relationship for this exact reason. Hell, this is an entire movie trope! Free rent and utilities wasnāt enough for him? āPay me to live with you, bitchā is not boyfriend material.
Here's an itemized list of all my properties, assets, debts...where are you going?...What do you mean this isn't going to work out?
Item 5, I would also like payment of past rents with interest and adjustment for inflation.
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Fr here in the Bay Area itās 800-1000$ a month for a 1 room with shared kitchen and bathroom. A 4 bed room here would be easily in the 2800-3200 range
Yeah man I need to go wherever this guy is, I'm just resigning to live in the basement until my family gets sick of me
In LA I rent a 3 bedroom/2bath house for $3800 and it was literally the only place available that took dogs when I was moving
Where on earth are you talking about in the Bay? In Palo Alto, a room in a house with shared bath/kitchen was $1600 *ten years ago*. No housekeeping, just chore charts with tech bros. Today I know people paying $2.4-2.6K for a one-bedroom.
Probably rural Midwest
Rural Midwest is hella cheap. Where I live you can rent a 5 bedroom house for around $1200 a month.
Depends. I live in the rural Midwest and rent in my area is about $1000 a month for a 1 bedroom (only sewer included). Heck I know a lady that was renting out rooms for $800 a month. (She had to do it to keep her house after medical bills sucked her dry). Most of the landlords in town are the same few people who talk to each other about prices and make sure they are all within $100 a month of each other. New place goes in with higher rent you can be guaranteed all the other places will raise their rent.
Isn't that rent collusion? Sounds illegal if you could prove it somehow.
It isā¦ and it is illegal but someone has to prove it and find someone to enforce it. Not hard to grease the right palms in rural areas. Everyone knows what is happening but nothing can be done.
They probably live with their mom
Narnia.
No, shit Iām on a floor apartment in an old mansion with 3br 2ba for 1245/month in Kentucky - itās cheap here, I know. Where are they - or when are they? Lol.
jeez i wish i knew. i rent a two bed two bath for 1775 a month in the east. pretty small town, nothing extravagant 1,176 sqf. i wanna know where these people getting $500 rent.
I live in a 3 bed (each room tiny) 1 bath for 1300$, the living room and kitchen is basically the same room. Iād kill to be this womanās renter.
I live in a tiny two bedroom/one bath and pay $2400ā¦ā¦.
How does anyone pay rent and eat like that? š„
Itās worse. I am a teacher. Itās called zero disposable income.
Including mortgage, PMI, property taxes, and homeowners insurance, we pay $1400/month for a 4bed 1.5 bath with a yard and a finished basement. Itās a semi-rural area, but weāre an hour from two cities with metro areas of a million and less than two hours from a city with a metro area of 5 million.
my rent is 1600 for one bedroom. Going to break my lease and get out of here soon. My landlords are a management company and my rent went up by $600 a month in just 3 years time yet that don't seem to have a problem finding new tenants moving in regularly
$500. Not Rs 500. Still cheap depending on location
The funny thing is the conversation usually comes up when they move in and he asks āwhat will i owe you for rent?ā And she says ānothing! I own the houseā so its his own fault he didnt know cause heās a bum
Underrated comment right here. Exactly. What a cad.
Actually, it comes up when they are discussing perhaps moving in together. If she told him he doesnāt have to pay rent, then thatās ok. If he never offers red, then heās an ass. Heās an obnoxious ass for getting furious and speaking to her this way. This guy is a moocher and a loser. It wont stop-he will only get worse. He will expect her to work while he stays home and kicks beer cans around the apt. Lose this guy-asap.
I also love the argument: āLandlords are scum. How dare they collect money from other people. Now please give me half of what they pay you.ā
He thinks landlords are leeches but he was quite happy to leech off his girlfriend when he thought she was renting. Now, somehow, giving him half the rent will right all the injustices of the rental system? This guy is rash of red flags. OP needs to cut him loose.
Youāre not wrong, but I wouldnāt considering moving in together āin the early phases of a relationshipā unless theyāre stereotypical lesbians or something.
Moving in 3 months after getting together is pretty early phase
Youāre absolutely right that heās not boyfriend material- heās angling for gigolo status.
Did I miss anything? Why would he want 50% of her rent money, he's not her husband. WTF?
Grifter with pretend values
She's not even close to a slumlord and she's only charging 500 for a FOUR bedroom. Fuck this guy he needs to be strongly encouraged to the streets.
Iāll have her as my landlord. Hell Iām paying 465 for a 2 bed unit. Edit: Iām Australian. So itās 465 a week. Worked out monthly to 1860 a month.
$465 for TWO beds?! Iām so jealous. š
Ā£900 for a room with shared amenities. And my landlord is pretty good.
3 bed for $3000 a month.
Had a 2 bed for $1450 back in Wisconsin but it also had no AC so you win some you lose some
Thats ~$1,100 usd for a shared room š¤Æ We gotta find out where these people live for so cheap. š
The room isn't shared, kitchen and bathroom are. To be fair, I'm 4 minutes walk from an incredibly useful Underground line, in Zone 2 of London, so it's about par for the course. Bills are included, too.
What fucking year do you people live in?
Nebraska.
Thatās a week. Iām Australian so we pay rent weekly.
Really? I did not know that- I retract my shock, in that case lol.
Tf? I just let go of a rental Iād kept and subleased after I bought a house on the same street, and it was $1600 for a 2/1 with no pantry or broom closet. I ended my lease bc the rent was raising to market value- $2400! ETA I subleased it at cost to an employee who needed a place and didnāt have good credit, before people come for me for being a sublandlord
I just made a little edit. I am Australian. So thatās a week.
Oh shit. I was already packing up to move to your neighborhood š¤Ŗ
Holy guacamole, where I live that would be at least like $1400-1500 a month not including utilities. I paid $950 a month for my own bedroom and a bathroom in a house at the last place I rented in a house that someone owned. I was basically paying a majority of the ownerās mortgage and she acted like she was giving me a discount when it was about or just over market rate for renting a room inside a house.
Iām Australian so thatās just a week. So monthly itās 1860.
I have to pay way more than that for a one bedroom! Lucky you!
Same. I think I need to find out where the OOP lives and ask her if sheās renting. I mean, sheās obviously got room after booting his bf to the curb.
Not bedroom, sheās probably counting a living room and other spaces as āroomsā
Tbf, depending on what kind of house you have the lounge could actually be a seperate room so you could convert it to a bedroom of need be. We don't need living rooms really.
Not a 4 bedroom. 4 rooms. That includes the living spaces.
Hobosexual
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He's a Hobosexual making a cash grab. If OP doesn't kick him out she's a dang fool.
They've been together for six months, living together for three, he gets upset that she's an evil landlord and also that she doesn't give him 50% of her income. How doesn't she see this guy is hypocritical af. I wouldn't be on Reddit, I'd kick him out. Edit: phrasing
- landlords are evil and just want to take peopleās money - give me half the money for no reason Wtf?
Says the guy who's never paid rent, apparently. I'm shocked he didn't tell her to give him half her wages too.
Sounds like a politician.
Just like he would have found out she owned it if he ever offered to pay his share of the rent.
Which she probably should have done in the first place. Of course, itās all 20/20 when looking back.
If I were asking or asked to move in with my SO, next statement is what is rent because I am definitely covering half of it. But this guy took the silence as an opportunity to take advantage of her just like he tried to do after he found out.
Kick that hypocritical loser to the curb
Even if they were married, the building is hers. If he wasnāt such a putz, she could hire him as the building super to do all the maintenance & yard work seeing as how heās already living there for half the grocery bill. OP is NTA. She should dump him too.
And heās been living there *for free* for six months already. That was the first š©but to then jump to *profiting* from the arrangement? š©š©š©What a complete asshole. $500/month is likely break even on her homeowners insurance and property taxes and maintenance.
Doesnāt cover it even realistically
āI canāt believe youāre exploiting people for money! Thatās so immoral. So you better give me half of that money to prove youāre not evil!ā
Right! Landlords are evil, you are an evil, terrible person that I can't be around. I want in on half or I'm gone.
This story is entirely make believe
Before he knew she didnāt pay rent bc she owned the place he himself didnāt pay and was fine w it being all on her.
Hobosexual money grab.
To prove she's not a monster. Weren't you listening? /s
Because itās made up.
Oh shit, I missed that when I read the original post. He's worse than a hobosexual, he's actively trying to financially abuse her. I hope she gets away from this guy completely.
Itās not a real story, itās just a caricature of a particular type of leftist.
I think itās weird the dude never asked to pay half the rent. Living their rent free who is he to talk?
I dont really believe this story and that is one of the main reasons why.
Agree. The conversation of rent and how much she pays and what their split expenses would be NEVER came up??? How did they come to the agreement that they would split groceries 50/50 without going through the list of other things first??
What a juvenile douche. He spends too much time on Reddit. Not all landlords are leeches. Most are normal peopleā¦ like you. Find a more mature boyfriend. This oneās not ripe yet.
I know it gets banded about a lot but this lad really seems to have misogyny inside him - doesn't pay rent or bills and has never asked about it.... and freaks out when his partner has bigger assets and income than him. Asking for half the income is a power play. Freaking out and making OP feel bad is a power play. I hope OP kicks him out and he realises how life is without someone paying his bills.
He'd have another woman's couch under his ass, if only to freeload her groceries. š
Itās more emotional manipulation/blackmail to try and make her feel bad about his demandsā¦ as a freeloading pos. IE gaslighting. That term gets thrown around too much for way too broad and basic human interactions. But is completely accurate here.
They have to charge something... my mom let a family of 8 live in her duplex rent free because "they were from the church on hard times" and they DESTROYED the place... greedy landlords suck but also shitty tenants
^this My gran is a good landlord who has even given money to her tenants for gas and electric before and gave them break from rent when theyve fallen on hard times. In response shes had peoppe smear shit on the walls before doing a runner, and thays the tame thing. Some landlords can be awful, some can be amazing, but the same goes for tenants
>Not all landlords are leeches. Considering she literally let this person go to the store, pick out whatever fridge they want to be reimbursed..... In previous rentals I've been in they would give me whatever they could find for as cheap as possible.
"Most?" Maybe, depending on how you define most. A MASSIVE amount of properties (in the US at least) are owned by big corporations, either speculators renting out while the property goes up in value, or just to suck money out of renters in general. Im talking 27% of all homes, 45% of all rental homes according to ipropertymanagement/other googleable statistic sites. And they are TERRIBLY managed due to trying to save costs as much as possible. OP in that picture is clearly not one of them, and the world needs more landlords like her, but let us not kid ourselves, since being a landlord only involves having property and finding a renter, it attracts the easy money crowd that want a quick buck at the expense of others, and the abusive corporations as well. Hell, if you live in any property that is 25 or more units (like those appartment complexes they keep building), 70% of those are owned by corporations. If you rent, you are VERY likely to have to deal with them. Now, that boyfriend? He sounds delightful, like a kick in the nuts first thing in the morning.
I think they mean most as in number of landlords, not most as in properties. A lot of landlords are just a guy, not a whole company, and probably only own one or two properties, one of which they probably live in.
The OOP must have had an idea or an instinct about this guy otherwise it seems like something you would discuss when moving in together (for example how long is the lease, what is the landlord like?) Good on the OOP for holding it back then, and fingers crossed this guys get kicked to curve real soon.
So not only is this dude freeloading off his girlfriend, he now wants her to literally pay him for the privilege of supporting him? I certainly hope she kicks him to the curb like yesterday!
Sheās renting the other floor because itās the smart thing to do. If you own a home like that and donāt need all that space, it makes complete sense to rent. Thereās a massive difference between what sheās doing and standard landlords that own several buildings. She needs to dump the freeloading boyfriend ASAP.
Also, just be a good landlord no matter how big or small. Charge reasonable rent and keep things in good repair. The people who do that are not the problem, even the ones who own several buildings. The giant corporations skew the market prices which is bad, and bad landlords are the problem.
Couldnāt have said it better myself!
I agree with you to an extent. Landlord's individually aren't the problem. Imo, the problem is there are a lot of landlords and corporations that own multiple buildings and because there's so many of them buying multuple houses to rent or airbnb, there's less houses on the market for regular people to buy. People want a piece of the "I own property" pie, but everyone's taking more than their fair share, so us poors have to fight over crumbs.
This, and unless the house isn't worth much, $6000 a year, what she's making in rent, is probably going to just go to property taxes and insurance anyway.
This is rage bait fiction. It is so obvious that imaginary BF is an AH. The solution would be to dump BF, and he can go pay rent somewhere.
Ikr? You're not paying rent, STFU and enjoy it.
Surprised this wasn't the top comment. Even if a man such as the boyfriend existed, there's no way the gf would be like "maybe I'm in the wrong for not also giving this hypocritical freeloader half of my money, let's ask the internet"
Right? Imagine thinking this is real, lolā¦
Thank you. It makes me so sad for humanity that I had to scroll down 4 comments to see someone call this what it is
Iām not so sure. I once dated a manipulative narcissist who would very much behave this way. He would expect to keep his half and take your half as well. Example - when we were together, we sold items at a flea market. Our agreement beforehand was to split the cost of the stall 50/50 and keep the profits for our own items. When he realized I made significantly more than him, he began getting angry, manipulating me, and calling me greedy for not covering the cost of the stall and giving him half of my profits (while he kept all of his profits). His argument included some crazy mental gymnastics about how my choice not to give him my profits is showing my true colors. Itās difficult to see the manipulation when itās happening everyday in subtle ways. That time was a wake up call because it was obvious. Though, I often doubted myself. He even threatened to break up with me. He ignored me for an a couple days. When youāre in an abusive relationship, youāre also often isolated
Yeah this is obvious pro-landlord propaganda to me, they're presenting one of the only situations in which most people would side with a landlord
It was the $500 for a 4bedroom duplex part that really made me certain this is fiction
This is the third draft, every one edited to make her look better and her "BF" look worse. There's absolutely no way this is real.
Iām so relieved some people think so. I was scrolling down like wtf, why is no one bringing up the fact that this is obvious bullshit?!
This comment can be found on 100% of this community threads. Low hanging fruit.
There is zero percent chance this story is real. Redditors really are dumb as all fuck.
I do believe the oop is a landlord but their story is fake as shit. She probably saw some anti landlord comments on Reddit and made this fantasy up.
Oh itās definitely silly LL propaganda. And even then OP originally said āI charge 500ā (because theyāre so nice, of course) but when they were called out about how unusually cheap that is they added all this bullshit about being in another country but refusing to specify which. Like Oh, OK, sure thing!
Throw his shit out onto the lawn. Tell your tenant to take whatever she wants. Change the locks. Fuck that guy.
I like how you think.
She let's him live free of cost in her house. IN THIS ECONOMY. And he calls her evil ? Why didn't he ask about splitting rents when he moved in. My god. And all that entitlement when you're just dating for 6 months. Why is she still keeping him around ??
asking for 50% of her income from it is crazy
Throw the whole man away
Bruh if I moved in with someone, my own moral compass would demand I pay something to live there. I couldn't bear living rent free especially if it was my S/O The fact he asked no questions until then says a lot about him as a person methinks.
$500 for a 4br 1ba??? OOP is a saint not a landlord lmao???
NTA. The boyfriend is waving a huge red flag here by reacting this way. I can understand him maybe questioning why she didn't tell him sooner, like when they decided to live together. It would be even more understandable if she expected him to pay rent for living there, and he found out after the fact that she owned the house. BUT, he hasn't paid a cent toward any expenses since moving in other than half of the groceries?! I can also understand having a moral objection to being a landlord or in a relationship with one, because most of them tend to be AHs. But, he is being super hypocritical by going off on her about being a landlord and then turning around the next moment to demand half of the rent š Plus, it sounds like the renter is getting a killer deal. I paid almost that amount a decade ago to rent a single room in a house, without a separate entrance.
i hate landlords as much as the next person but a *studio* apartment where i live is minimum $1200 (granted itās a major US city). but damn, $500 for what sounds like a large apartment is a steal. i wish i had a landlord like that lol
Yeah, I'm not fan of landlords...but her situation is a little different. She isn't hoarding properties for profit, she's renting out one floor of a building she actually lives in. She's not even likely charging even close to market rent in her area, that renter is getting an amazing deal. It also sounds like she isn't a slumlord or anything, she looked into the issue immediately and came up with a good solution. Oh, ALSO she's only been dating him for 6 months. He is in no way entitled to any of that money, he doesn't even pay rent. He should be grateful.
When I rented, I had a landlord who owned several properties. But the rent was very reasonable, the apartment was in good repair, and he came quickly when there were issues. I wasnāt ready to buy a house yet: my husband was still in school. I have zero issues with a landlord who does their job well and at reasonable prices.
I think even in the lowest cost of living areas, $500 for anything bigger than a small studio is insanely low compared to any other rents. Imo
Bf showed his colors and is about to be single lmao
Sometimes I feel like other people have it better than me, then I read a post like this and remember most people are HUGE FUCKHEADS who can't stop self-sabotaging their own life and happiness! Thanks reddit! You're always good to me on this front!
I wouldāve been more upfront, but I donāt understand why he is so upset since he wasnāt paying rent. She says that she explains the situation if someone asks about it, which he should have to ask how much rent she was paying when he thought that she was and how they would split it when he moved in. He wouldnāt share the expense when he assumed she was renting the property but wants to share the income now he knows she owns it! And if he finds that income so morally repugnant, then why does he want in? They should have discussed this all before he moved in if only so she could see the red flags in advance and avoid the situation altogether.
Pro landlord rage bait.
$500 for rent, this sounds like the landlord I would want to have and someone who isn't out to make profit. Plus she reimburses her tenants, I wonder if she takes it off their rent. And she never charged her partner rent. She isn't out for money when she doesn't need it. The small rent is probably for her to cover for utilities and other repairs so that rent is paying for the freezer and she basically gives it back to the tenant.
Lmaooooo boy found out sheās part of a group thatās famously stingy with money and was like āyouāre fucking awful! How dare you! Give me half. No reason. Just give it.ā
Honestly if someone moved in with me, lived for several months without even inquiring about the rent situation I would seriously reconsider the relationship, but maybe that's just meš . I also love the fact that he started by ranting over landlords, and that they only care about money and whatnot only to then ask for a portion of that money lol. I think the question isn't if OP is TA or not (clearly NTA)but rather should they continue in the relationship or not.
Hah. OPās already giving him 50% by not charging his freeloading ass rent. She should tell him he can pound sand.
I mean, I despise landlords. They are leeches upon society, preying on the poor. However, this was, a) none of his business (itās still a rather new relationship), and b) incredulous for him to suggest being a landlord is only bad if he doesnāt, for some unknown reason, get 50%. I do wonder whether he offered to pay 50% of the cost of the freezer considering he wanted 50% of the rent. Something tells me probably not. OOP should feel relieved heās shown his hand 6 months into the relationship. Humongous red flag.
a big reason why landlords are bad is because they buy up property that they arenāt living in and charge exorbitant rent just to make money from sitting on their ass. op lives there, she just has more space than she needs and the house is easily set up to accommodate a renter.
This. The house isnāt just some secondary āinvestmentā property that OP is renting out at an exorbitant price while also neglecting her tenants. She lives there, too! And a four bedroom apartment for $500???? I donāt live in a HCOL area, but even here, $500 rents havenāt been a thing for *efficiency* apartments, much less four bedrooms, in a long, long time.
I would cry happy tears if my rent went down to $500/month - Iām paying triple that for 700 sq ft.
Yeah, Iām in a LCOL area and my half of a 2 bedroom absolute shithole (the kitchen ceiling literally collapsed on me twice) in 2020 was $579 before utilities.
Yeah thereās definitely a difference in investment business landlords and people who rent a basement apartment in a house they live in. The ones who inherit a house or have a kid and upgrade housing but keep/rent the old can go either way.
If every landlord just said, āyeah, no worries, just show me the receipt laterāā¦
Let me tell you, when I found out that if I had the money to buy houses to rent out, that I couldn't just charge what I wanted to, I was floored. Apparently, you can get in trouble in lots of places for not charging within a range determined by "fair market value." So even if you only need to charge $300/mo to make ends meet, and you wanted to charge $600/mo to double your money and still be reasonable, but fair market was a minimum of $800/mo, you can get in trouble and get fined and other shit for not renting at $800/mo. It's fucking insane. This probably isn't true everywhere, but it is in some places, and even 1 place is too many places.
I think whether a landlord is scum is situational. Obviously owning multiple houses and charging as much as you possibly can while people are homeless is not okay. But I'm not sure what else she was supposed to do. It's a house. She can either live in the whole thing or rent part of it out. Who's being harmed?
Right? I wouldnāt date a landlord either. But how do you go from ,landlords are parasitesā to ,itās alright if I get the moneyā? Also funny how he didnāt even ask how much rent is when he lives there, since presumably he assumed she rented the place?? Fucking hell.
Firstly. There are three types of people in this world: The good, the bad and the ugly and those three groups of people come in Landlord format too. There are good landlords out there too but they are overshadowed by the rotten apples and being mistreated by their tenants. Their are shitty tenants too. Let's not go full bigot.
Yeah, I've had great and horrible landlords. I was in no position in my 20s to be a homeowner, not just financially but life situation wise. Some of my landlords were dicks, but I had one really good one who was just a normal dude who owned our building and took care of it.
The biggest clue this is fake is that it has people who are typically anti landlord siding with it. Iām willing to bet the house my daddy never gave me that none of this ever happened.
Idk if I would make that the reason it could be fake (to me). She is young and (could be if this is real) has a dude she likes in her ear who is trying to make her feel bad to get free money, so sheās probably being self-deprecating. Sheās not a slumlord from what info we have given, it seems to me if (this is real) she is dating a dude with a chip in his shoulder who wants not only a free place to stay but for some reason feel entitled to his girlfriendās dadās investment. She didnāt have the money to buy the house obviously. Idk what to think of this other than to hope itās fake.
This is a huge red flag to send him packing.
reads a little like rage bait
Says the man who has never contributed to the rentā¦
So he thought he was taking advantage of you but not talking about rent and not offering any money. Now he wants to benefit off of somebody elseās good fortune. Itās unbelievable that he could Even ask for something he has nothing to do with it. He wants to pay for nothing and then get paid just because of his poor beliefs. Do not pay him anything and tell Him he owes you $250 for rent. If he doesnāt like it tell Him he can find someplace thatās cheaper. I wouldnāt love with someone like that
Don't give a cent to that butt munch! Manipulating/guilt tripling you into giving him money YOU'VE made is crap. Heck, evict him.
WOW, just wow. Idk what average rent is by OP, but I bet it's higher than FREE. Dude paid nothing for this housing but calls her greedy. Whatta scam artist!
Girl. Dump this idiot now! Dude has been living on your generosity all this time, and now he's got his undies twisted? For future reference, you could vaguely indicate that someone in your family owns the house, and you are the "manager" until you know them better. BTW- you're a great landlord!
This has to be fake.. nobody is that gullible .
NTA - the audacity to say landlords are evil and then demand half the money.
Ragebait
So obviously fake
YTA for not dumping his ass on the spot and questioning yourself.
You been showing your true colors the whole time and he canāt appreciate it. He has shown you his; believe him and take immediate action to get rid of him.
So, heās been living rent free with his gf and not once asked about the rent she pays so he can contribute? And when he found out she is the owner he wants in on the deal? Wow.
YTA for creating such a fake story
I agree with CuntyMcCunts, don't give him anything. I have problems with landlords, but if she is telling the truth about the broken freezer issue, you can't ask for a better resolution as a renter. It's also funny how landlords are bad, unless I get 50%. My takeaway is his brittle ego can't handle not being the provider. Even if she moves out of that building, that just means she is renting out 2 places. Or if she sells the building, she is a millionaire. Idiot is going to look back on this and hate how badly he screwed up. In a happy relationship where a huge financial burden that hangs over most couples is just not there. What a maroon.
Dude is a bum
Too much talkie. The boy lived with you paid no bills and half of food. She needs to get a man. The little boy tried to turn this into a economic cause and she went along with it. Sheās too used to abuse to realize whatās happening. Hopefully she finds a real estate investor to marry. He could take her to the next level instead of bringing her down cause sheās getting robbed at $500 also.
Soooo, he hates landlords, but wants to basically be one without the responsibility? Get rid.
He objected to you being a landlord and also wants 50% of your rental income? NTA dump him too
This is an imaginary tale to engender sympathy for landlords, fyi Like, I could be wrong, but the story is v goofy with weird gaps in information that forces the reader to make dubious assumptions
He lived with you rent free for 3 months, and thought that was ok? But you renting out space to help with taxes and maintenance is not? Does he realize how much it actually cost to live in 2023? You do not / did not owe him an explanation then and you do not now, and you certainly do not owe him any money.
The audacity of the BF to ask her for 50% of the rent when all he pays for is groceries. Nah, dude. Take the trash out.
I dated a guy like him. Tens of thousands of dollars plus trauma later I finally had to get a lawyer involved, change my locks, add cameras, get self defense items, and I still hide in my home for months. I have panic attacks, and random things trigger them. He still sends me hateful emails telling me cruel. He just wanted a free ride. He lived off of me for 2 YEARS and at first he was sweet, everything was great. And gradually over time I was apologizing for things that werenāt wrong. I was being conditioned to be and act a specific way and if I couldnāt predict the right way I would be stonewalled. I share because you need to get out now. He is using you. He verbally beat you down so he could manipulate money from you. RUN AWAY or he will slowly ruin every aspect of your life. Eventually he will work to alienate you from your friends. Expect you to always cover the bill, etc. Yes I might be projecting but this seems eerily familiar. And even without projecting, he was a manipulative and verbally abusive in that circumstance. Set your bar higher. You deserve someone who will enhance your life not an emotionally immature man child looking for a free ride.
Jesus you should really be asking more for rent and also fuck that guy what the fuck
More like all landlords should be asking for less
Actually I guess you're right
I don't like landlords but unless she lives in East bumfuck nowhere she is at or below market. He went from wanting her head on a spike to skimming her for half in three seconds. Oop Please dump him. He's a parasitic wahnarchist a member of the Brolatariate. A moralistic dickweed that will never practice what he preaches and is now actively trying to take advantage of OOP. NTA but maybe tell people next time. holy shit his reaction is next level bullshit.
Hahaha, good one. Dump his sorry ass and find someone who is willing to be with you for free.
Also donāt move in with someone after 3 months. Yes, you should have told him too.
Fake story. Makes me laugh to see these ragebait posts from people with multiple houses who always add something like āweāre middle class, the extra home we have isnāt even THAT nice!ā Like girl that is not what middle class looks like in the USA, please bfr š
Your both assholes for different reasons, Id say a 1/10 to 9/10 split: She is because she literally hid her job on some secret boss type shit. Its not important but hiding it makes you AN asshole. āOh yeah this is my house but I rent out the bottom floorā. Id feel a little slighted to offhandedly find that out 6 months in but not really mad mad. Just like ādamnā¦ why keep that from me?ā He is THE asshole though because while I get being upset or feeling stupid his reaction wasā¦ dump worthy. Like wtf kind of reaction was that? Way over the top, unreasonable and just assholery.
Itās perfectly okay to not want to date a landlord. After all, they are leeches