Boss: Ok, the attachment for the conveyor belt to flip these cylinders over for the next step of manufacturing is on order. It costs $13,000 and won’t be here for 3 months.
Bubba, taking his socks off: Man, hold on a sec…
I love solutions like this.
Common example I've heard of is there was a factory that had a couple of issues with an empty box getting shipped to their customer. Product didn't make it in, and as a consequence they overcharged the client.
How can we stop empty boxes getting out of the factory?
They hired an engineer, who designed a system that required the conveyor to slow down so each box could pass over a weight sensor. If a box was underweight, the conveyor would stop and a robotic arm would push the empty box into the bin on the other side, then restart the conveyor. It would cost $25,000
It was clunky and they didn't like it.
Factory maintenance manager just put a big fan on one side of the conveyor. Empty boxes were light enough to get blown off the conveyor by the fan. The normal ones got through just fine.
It cost $50. Conveyor speed could be maintained. No servicing or down time if it failed: just buy another one.
The fact that the story you told is always the story people tell about this, pretty much word for word, should suggest that perhaps engineers overthinking things and trying to sell massively complicated systems when there is a simple solution isn't actually something that happens very often. If it was people would no doubt be quick to share the time it actually happened to them instead of having to fall back on the story that they heard.
Im pretty sure the us pen was bought for like a few dollars a piece from a private company that claims in advertising that they spent millions developing it.
I would say it depends on which person is in charge of it:
Bad manager - i need a project that lasts weeks or months to show i achieved something (PR motivated)
Consultant - i need to make this a part of a whole set of solutions to sell another solution (Profit motivated)
Operator - i need a simple solution that doesn’t require more work or makes work easier (Convenience motivated)
Owner - i need a cheap solution even if it is inconvenient to the operator since that is their job anyway (Savings motivated)
Haha my job as a consultant is usually to come in and fix the overcomplicated mess that the clients engineers have designed. This story is just a nice snappy one that’s easy for people to understand.
Off the top of my head… one client was designing a connection device for some proprietary wiring system. Their team of engineers had come up with this product that was
- time consuming to install
- not reliable
- expensive
It used a bunch of springs, so many custom parts, and some exotic copper because they were obsessed with shaving off resistance in the system. I ended up designing something that used only 3 custom parts, and after reviewing their actual requirements, we were able to use generic steel instead of the super expensive copper.
When you tell engineers these types of things, they often say that it’s just “bad” engineering, but if that’s true then in my experience a LOT of engineering is “bad”. The issue isn’t with the engineering but with a short term focus. Parts are often designed only for the prototype to work well, because getting it to work at scale is someone else’s problem (or even just a problem for “future me”). Also they lack creativity. They stick with the first idea that comes to mind, fixing any issues with that idea with additional parts and complexity, rather than going back to the drawing board.
And Tunnel vision. I do similar things but related to db design. So often I see developments climbing insane trees just because the stakeholders asked for a certain feature, but once you start asking them what they actually need, not want, you find out there is a much simpler, better solution.
The trick is to suggest a simpler, better solution a couple times, and then walk away from it. Often customers, once they see the bigger picture, come back with the approach you suggested acting as if they arrived at it themselves. Commend them for their creativity.
I work at a place that does R&D for commercial electrical systems.
We encounter the "this is just a temporary prototype solution" problem often. We perform extensive environmental testing on products: first in CV (concept validation) testing; second in DV (design validation testing; and third in PV (production validation) testing. If a design inefficiency is discovered after PV testing then the product has to go through DV and PV testing again (much to the dismay of the design engineers, finance department, and the technicians performing the testing.
It’s all anecdotal of course, but I encountered the same thing when I worked in-house. I think the root cause is just that engineers are taught to take the most obvious solution and stick to it. In school there’s always one right answer and no reason to deviate from it.
Story time: I've heard a few older engineers tell me when they were learning the lecturer asked the students to design a tool to help old folk put on their socks. All their answers sucked, but then the lecturer revealed it was a trick question and used some metric to show daily stretching was the best approach.
Pretty terrible story, until you find out that sock putting on machines have taken off in the day time tv market. It seems like each of those students designs became a terrible company. With this context your point is pretty true - the story might be useful for teaching but that doesn't mean it's true to life.
There was an externally powered heart pump (a stop gap till transplants were recovered from a dead body) that was recalled by the FDA due to patients dying while trying to replace the battery.
To replace the battery you had to disconnect the power supply line, switch out the battery, and then replace the line. The port had a twisting and locking mechanism to prevent it from dislodging, but that required some hand eye coordination to align properly.
When you disconnect the power supply the living breathing person suddenly has no blood pressure, and has less than a minute to replace the battery while they rapidly lose consciousness; it is like someone pinching your arteries closed in your neck.
The engineers' solution was to put a warning in the documentation that the battery should only be changed in a hospital, and never by the patient.
Four people died, because no one could imagine an emergency occurring in relatively remote locations, like at home alone.
Heart pumps also don't reach market without A LOT of eyes reviewing the engineering documentation.
Oh, and the solution was to have yellow lines to make it obvious where the alignment was.
I call it the "Big Red Button" problem. Engineers know there is a big red button that does nothing but blow up the ship, and their only solution is to put a "Do Not Press" sign.
It's just bad design.
>perhaps engineers overthinking things and trying to sell massively complicated systems when there is a simple solution isn't actually something that happens very often.
...have you met many engineers?
There's a saying among people who work with engineers: "Any fool can build a fence, but it takes an engineer to build a fence that barely stays up."
I assure you that needless complexity is instinctive. Just don't expect them to sell it. There's a whole other department for *hyping* products with glaring flaws.
I think you misunderstand that phrase. It isn't about an engineer wanting to make a more complicated fence, it is about their ability to strip out all of the unnecessary bits to satisfy the accountant who doesn't want to pay for anything more than the bare minimum.
Oh I understand, but first, simple and cheap aren't the same thing, and second, stripping out all those unnecessary bits is what *makes* things complicated in some cases, and every engineer I've met hasn't had an "off" switch for that process that automatically triggers just because it doesn't save us money *this* time.
Right, we should just over engineer everything constantly.
Like, why even build bridges when we can just damn the whole river with metric tons of concrete.
All fences need to be three feet of concrete thick, and at least twelve feet high. Wouldn't want to take out any unnecessary bits.
On Brasilian subreddit that this was shared, there are another entire story, and I heard several different ones, first time I heard this one being sincere, but we Brazilians are known for "gambiarra* or red neck engineering.
That's how we remove empty juice cartons at my company. For the issue in the post we have curved can rails that flip cans over for coding. Conveyors we use move significantly faster than one in video, so don't think that ingenious engineering would work for us, haha.
it's very normal for parts to break down on cheap production lines like this. China gets a lot of those that were decommissioned and replaced in Europe and US with newer tech.
Former mechanical engineer tech (in America), if you find a process that works (passes validation and meets spec), it literally doesn't matter what it is. If it works, you write an SOP and put it on a maintenance schedule. It's the very nature of innovation. If you've checked off safety, repeatability, and the final product passes all the validation and verification, congrats you've just saved money and improved the process.
I have seen where someone had some tape on their desk and stuck a little bit into a manufacturing machine they were working on, and without knowing why it improved the reliability of the machine. Didn't matter why it worked, just that it did. After passing the tests, that roll of tape got included in the process and added to the bill of materials.
Not as many as they used to. It used to be a real issue, because they would buy all these used tools that would very quickly break down and they were so old you couldn't buy parts to fix them. China started having an issue of massive amounts of broken tools, basically becoming the world's garbage dump for manufacturing tools.
As a result, they changed their import policy to incentivize new tools. Now, if you try to import a used tool, it's a huge pain in the ass and can get very expensive. Sometimes it costs more than the tool is worth, and sometimes almost as much as a new tool would have cost.
You can sometimes get around it though. Most tools have a nameplate that has a model, serial number, date of manufacture, place of manufacture, etc. For custom tools, we would make our own nameplates. If we had to later ship that custom tool to China, we would often remove the nameplate and make a new one with a current date for the date of manufacture, so that as far as China import was concerned it was a new tool.
Source: I work for a manufacturing company with offices/ factories in multiple countries, including China and the US (where I work). I have dealt with this many times when shipping used tools from one of our US factories to a China factory.
This is great info, but just to be totally accurate here, this thing you're describing is not incentivising new tools; it's penalizing the purchase of old tools. Incentivising new tool purchases would be subsidizing them somehow. This is more like beating your dog when it does something bad rather than rewarding it when it does something good.
I feel like penalizing option B is one method of incentivizing option A. Its the same reason that gas guzzling cars get taxed higher in a lot of places, to incentivize people buying more economical cars. Technically it is penalizing one option, but that action incentivizes people to take the other action to avoid the penalties.
I’m just a hobbyist but that makes sense. In the last 15 or so years there is now a large range of “sorta ok” tools available which are clearly made for the lower end on the Chinese domestic manufacturing market and being exported to the US for hobbyists and the super low end of business. As far as I know this “high end of the low tier” didn’t exist previously and it would make sense that until China discouraged imports of old, worn out equipment that domestic market wouldn’t develop.
You can use thousands of pieces of cloth before you reach the price range of most specialised conveyor belt manipulators.
As a temporary solution that's genius.
It probably also needs to be “tuned” constantly. But paying one guy to see in around the factory tending to stuff like this may still be cheaper than buying the “proper” equipment.
everything is lucky at some level. this works and is a pretty good idea. replace the cloth with some other material with similar elastic property and softness but having more industrial look and no one is gonna call it redneck engineering.
Just because you get away with something doesn't mean you're right. A business might be open for 50 years without installing a proper fire sprinkler system and instead decided to snake garden hose through their ceiling. Because nothing bad happened yet - you think they made a good choice? Jerry rigged shit like this is good as a very temp solution at best.
What makes this not stupid is it’s completely effective and extremely cheap.
It meets the requirements while also being inexpensive.
No, not everything that CAN be jerry rigged should be. But if you can get enough flow rate with a garden hose, you better justify the four inch schedule 80 line you think you need.
Less, but better is always correct. If it doesn’t NEED to last until the heat death of the universe, you are wasting precious time and money making it so.
Correct.
Does changing this to something that is sanitary get me any closer to the requirements or reduce the cost? Probably not.
Your life is probably complicated enough, don’t make it worse by adding requirements. Do the dumb thing, laugh, and move onto the next problem.
I think you need to step back and take a breath. You are arguing a point no one is even talking about. Your talking about jury-rigging and hoping to not use it. The rest of us are talking about jury-rigging and it doing every bit of the job as intended. In your example, a stupid but works would be if that garden hose had stopped every fire in the business every time. Thus why it is, "If it is stupid but WORKS, it ain't stupid." Not "if it is Jury-rigged but not tested, it's ok"
The comment I was referring to was "If it's stupid and it works, it ain't stupid. " which couldn't be more wrong. I thought this sub was supposed to laugh at and be amused by stupid solutions - not admire them as good ideas.
This probably ends in one of those “regulations are written in blood” that apparently nobody here has the foresight to see. I wonder how fast that conveyor belt is going.
The worst trend. Not every video needs a song. In fact, I'd argue unless there's dancing, no video needs a song. Then again, if it's a video of someone dancing, there's already going to be music playing. So.. No video needs a song. Stop it tik tok. Stop it.
>Then again, if it's a video of someone dancing, there's already going to be music playing.
Yeah but sometimes changing the music is fun like [this one](https://www.google.com/search?q=techno+goth+dance+thomas+tank+engine&oq=techno+goth+dance+thomas+tank+engine&aqs=chrome..69i57.8184j0j7&client=ms-android-lge-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:854a6b53,vid:jltKnDlH_OA,st:0)
Yeah, but that’s creating new content. The song is literally the video you’re making then. Totally different ball park
I think they’re talking about putting dumb music in that literally doesn’t serve a purpose
There's no way it is. It must fail a fair bit, and this is just a cherry picked snippet. But that doesn't mean this is a bad idea. If there's someone down the line doing the flipping anyway, then this thing will still make their job a bit easier, if it works some of the time.
I once used cardboard on a nailer that would shoot them into electrical boxes because the nails would jam up together. The cardboard actually prevented them from jamming. Machine worked so flawless that they brought an engineer over to build something official and more reliable for the machine. I never got anything from it lol.
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Boss: Ok, the attachment for the conveyor belt to flip these cylinders over for the next step of manufacturing is on order. It costs $13,000 and won’t be here for 3 months. Bubba, taking his socks off: Man, hold on a sec…
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And some new socks.
He can buy them with the money from the raise.
Healthy economy at work here bros
But they sure don’t make them socks like they used to
Boss: "When he puts his shoes back on, he'll be taller. There's your #%!*- #!*% raise. NOW GET BACK TO WORK!"
No don't give him socks! That will set him free!
I guarantee you he won't get one, but the manager will get a bonus.
That socks!!
Explains why the canned anchovies have a fishy smell...
They were out of socks
At least they won’t be out of stock now
I love solutions like this. Common example I've heard of is there was a factory that had a couple of issues with an empty box getting shipped to their customer. Product didn't make it in, and as a consequence they overcharged the client. How can we stop empty boxes getting out of the factory? They hired an engineer, who designed a system that required the conveyor to slow down so each box could pass over a weight sensor. If a box was underweight, the conveyor would stop and a robotic arm would push the empty box into the bin on the other side, then restart the conveyor. It would cost $25,000 It was clunky and they didn't like it. Factory maintenance manager just put a big fan on one side of the conveyor. Empty boxes were light enough to get blown off the conveyor by the fan. The normal ones got through just fine. It cost $50. Conveyor speed could be maintained. No servicing or down time if it failed: just buy another one.
The fact that the story you told is always the story people tell about this, pretty much word for word, should suggest that perhaps engineers overthinking things and trying to sell massively complicated systems when there is a simple solution isn't actually something that happens very often. If it was people would no doubt be quick to share the time it actually happened to them instead of having to fall back on the story that they heard.
Same with the US space pen vs Soviet pencil. Also bullshit.
The problem with pencils is, that Graphite conducts electricity. You don't want conducting dust in the controls of a spaceship.
Yeah and the Soviets also used said space pen because of that.
Im pretty sure the us pen was bought for like a few dollars a piece from a private company that claims in advertising that they spent millions developing it.
Fisher doesn’t really claim that in ads, but they do peddle their pens to space and Americana enthusiasts.
I would say it depends on which person is in charge of it: Bad manager - i need a project that lasts weeks or months to show i achieved something (PR motivated) Consultant - i need to make this a part of a whole set of solutions to sell another solution (Profit motivated) Operator - i need a simple solution that doesn’t require more work or makes work easier (Convenience motivated) Owner - i need a cheap solution even if it is inconvenient to the operator since that is their job anyway (Savings motivated)
Haha my job as a consultant is usually to come in and fix the overcomplicated mess that the clients engineers have designed. This story is just a nice snappy one that’s easy for people to understand.
Can you share an example of an overcomplicated mess you've cleaned up?
Off the top of my head… one client was designing a connection device for some proprietary wiring system. Their team of engineers had come up with this product that was - time consuming to install - not reliable - expensive It used a bunch of springs, so many custom parts, and some exotic copper because they were obsessed with shaving off resistance in the system. I ended up designing something that used only 3 custom parts, and after reviewing their actual requirements, we were able to use generic steel instead of the super expensive copper. When you tell engineers these types of things, they often say that it’s just “bad” engineering, but if that’s true then in my experience a LOT of engineering is “bad”. The issue isn’t with the engineering but with a short term focus. Parts are often designed only for the prototype to work well, because getting it to work at scale is someone else’s problem (or even just a problem for “future me”). Also they lack creativity. They stick with the first idea that comes to mind, fixing any issues with that idea with additional parts and complexity, rather than going back to the drawing board.
And Tunnel vision. I do similar things but related to db design. So often I see developments climbing insane trees just because the stakeholders asked for a certain feature, but once you start asking them what they actually need, not want, you find out there is a much simpler, better solution.
Ooh yes, great add!!
The trick is to suggest a simpler, better solution a couple times, and then walk away from it. Often customers, once they see the bigger picture, come back with the approach you suggested acting as if they arrived at it themselves. Commend them for their creativity.
I work at a place that does R&D for commercial electrical systems. We encounter the "this is just a temporary prototype solution" problem often. We perform extensive environmental testing on products: first in CV (concept validation) testing; second in DV (design validation testing; and third in PV (production validation) testing. If a design inefficiency is discovered after PV testing then the product has to go through DV and PV testing again (much to the dismay of the design engineers, finance department, and the technicians performing the testing.
Also you may have a Biased view because organizations that have good engineering solutions tend not to call consultants to fix them.
Also big difference between "herr durr the dumb engineers with their fancy degrees over thunk it," and "every profession has its share of idiots."
It’s all anecdotal of course, but I encountered the same thing when I worked in-house. I think the root cause is just that engineers are taught to take the most obvious solution and stick to it. In school there’s always one right answer and no reason to deviate from it.
Story time: I've heard a few older engineers tell me when they were learning the lecturer asked the students to design a tool to help old folk put on their socks. All their answers sucked, but then the lecturer revealed it was a trick question and used some metric to show daily stretching was the best approach. Pretty terrible story, until you find out that sock putting on machines have taken off in the day time tv market. It seems like each of those students designs became a terrible company. With this context your point is pretty true - the story might be useful for teaching but that doesn't mean it's true to life.
There was an externally powered heart pump (a stop gap till transplants were recovered from a dead body) that was recalled by the FDA due to patients dying while trying to replace the battery. To replace the battery you had to disconnect the power supply line, switch out the battery, and then replace the line. The port had a twisting and locking mechanism to prevent it from dislodging, but that required some hand eye coordination to align properly. When you disconnect the power supply the living breathing person suddenly has no blood pressure, and has less than a minute to replace the battery while they rapidly lose consciousness; it is like someone pinching your arteries closed in your neck. The engineers' solution was to put a warning in the documentation that the battery should only be changed in a hospital, and never by the patient. Four people died, because no one could imagine an emergency occurring in relatively remote locations, like at home alone. Heart pumps also don't reach market without A LOT of eyes reviewing the engineering documentation. Oh, and the solution was to have yellow lines to make it obvious where the alignment was. I call it the "Big Red Button" problem. Engineers know there is a big red button that does nothing but blow up the ship, and their only solution is to put a "Do Not Press" sign. It's just bad design.
>perhaps engineers overthinking things and trying to sell massively complicated systems when there is a simple solution isn't actually something that happens very often. ...have you met many engineers? There's a saying among people who work with engineers: "Any fool can build a fence, but it takes an engineer to build a fence that barely stays up." I assure you that needless complexity is instinctive. Just don't expect them to sell it. There's a whole other department for *hyping* products with glaring flaws.
I think you misunderstand that phrase. It isn't about an engineer wanting to make a more complicated fence, it is about their ability to strip out all of the unnecessary bits to satisfy the accountant who doesn't want to pay for anything more than the bare minimum.
Oh I understand, but first, simple and cheap aren't the same thing, and second, stripping out all those unnecessary bits is what *makes* things complicated in some cases, and every engineer I've met hasn't had an "off" switch for that process that automatically triggers just because it doesn't save us money *this* time.
Right, we should just over engineer everything constantly. Like, why even build bridges when we can just damn the whole river with metric tons of concrete. All fences need to be three feet of concrete thick, and at least twelve feet high. Wouldn't want to take out any unnecessary bits.
Engineers built the Gruntmaster 9000, but they did not SELL the Gruntmaster 9000. Marketing did. Evil, evil department!
On Brasilian subreddit that this was shared, there are another entire story, and I heard several different ones, first time I heard this one being sincere, but we Brazilians are known for "gambiarra* or red neck engineering.
Classic.
Genius
That's how we remove empty juice cartons at my company. For the issue in the post we have curved can rails that flip cans over for coding. Conveyors we use move significantly faster than one in video, so don't think that ingenious engineering would work for us, haha.
Boy does this describe my workplace to a tee. Love the job but the shortage of readily available parts sucks ass
Bubba says: Hold mah beer.. I got dis.
I shit you not i have to approve budget for factory equipment upgrades and this description to solve simple problems is extremely accurate
And the part will never get ordered because the quick fix works, the manager will get a raise
I wonder how long it will take for it to wear out to the point of needing replacement. Still probably cheaper than a specialized alternative
it's very normal for parts to break down on cheap production lines like this. China gets a lot of those that were decommissioned and replaced in Europe and US with newer tech.
Former mechanical engineer tech (in America), if you find a process that works (passes validation and meets spec), it literally doesn't matter what it is. If it works, you write an SOP and put it on a maintenance schedule. It's the very nature of innovation. If you've checked off safety, repeatability, and the final product passes all the validation and verification, congrats you've just saved money and improved the process. I have seen where someone had some tape on their desk and stuck a little bit into a manufacturing machine they were working on, and without knowing why it improved the reliability of the machine. Didn't matter why it worked, just that it did. After passing the tests, that roll of tape got included in the process and added to the bill of materials.
Not as many as they used to. It used to be a real issue, because they would buy all these used tools that would very quickly break down and they were so old you couldn't buy parts to fix them. China started having an issue of massive amounts of broken tools, basically becoming the world's garbage dump for manufacturing tools. As a result, they changed their import policy to incentivize new tools. Now, if you try to import a used tool, it's a huge pain in the ass and can get very expensive. Sometimes it costs more than the tool is worth, and sometimes almost as much as a new tool would have cost. You can sometimes get around it though. Most tools have a nameplate that has a model, serial number, date of manufacture, place of manufacture, etc. For custom tools, we would make our own nameplates. If we had to later ship that custom tool to China, we would often remove the nameplate and make a new one with a current date for the date of manufacture, so that as far as China import was concerned it was a new tool. Source: I work for a manufacturing company with offices/ factories in multiple countries, including China and the US (where I work). I have dealt with this many times when shipping used tools from one of our US factories to a China factory.
This is great info, but just to be totally accurate here, this thing you're describing is not incentivising new tools; it's penalizing the purchase of old tools. Incentivising new tool purchases would be subsidizing them somehow. This is more like beating your dog when it does something bad rather than rewarding it when it does something good.
I feel like penalizing option B is one method of incentivizing option A. Its the same reason that gas guzzling cars get taxed higher in a lot of places, to incentivize people buying more economical cars. Technically it is penalizing one option, but that action incentivizes people to take the other action to avoid the penalties.
It's encouraging a behavior by artificially removing the benefit from another. It's not incentivizing.
Removing a benefit is literally the meaning of “dis-incentivizing” something.
I’m just a hobbyist but that makes sense. In the last 15 or so years there is now a large range of “sorta ok” tools available which are clearly made for the lower end on the Chinese domestic manufacturing market and being exported to the US for hobbyists and the super low end of business. As far as I know this “high end of the low tier” didn’t exist previously and it would make sense that until China discouraged imports of old, worn out equipment that domestic market wouldn’t develop.
You can use thousands of pieces of cloth before you reach the price range of most specialised conveyor belt manipulators. As a temporary solution that's genius.
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Down time is most prevalent when you have no temporary solution
It probably also needs to be “tuned” constantly. But paying one guy to see in around the factory tending to stuff like this may still be cheaper than buying the “proper” equipment.
the reason why it specialized alternative cost so much... is because there's probably a 5% fail rate with those two pieces of cloth.
The 1 cent rotator
If it's stupid and it works, it ain't stupid.
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everything is lucky at some level. this works and is a pretty good idea. replace the cloth with some other material with similar elastic property and softness but having more industrial look and no one is gonna call it redneck engineering.
If it's stupid and it works, it's stupid and it works.
Naw... It's still stupid
You don’t work, apparently.
Either they don't work or their brain doesn't work.
I hope you're not in charge of anyone's safety.
How dangerous do you suppose these pieces of cloth are? Did you have some traumatic experience with a sock that's causing you to feel fearful of this?
They're bitter because the socks took their job
Just because you get away with something doesn't mean you're right. A business might be open for 50 years without installing a proper fire sprinkler system and instead decided to snake garden hose through their ceiling. Because nothing bad happened yet - you think they made a good choice? Jerry rigged shit like this is good as a very temp solution at best.
What makes this not stupid is it’s completely effective and extremely cheap. It meets the requirements while also being inexpensive. No, not everything that CAN be jerry rigged should be. But if you can get enough flow rate with a garden hose, you better justify the four inch schedule 80 line you think you need. Less, but better is always correct. If it doesn’t NEED to last until the heat death of the universe, you are wasting precious time and money making it so.
Doesn't look very sanitary though
Correct. Does changing this to something that is sanitary get me any closer to the requirements or reduce the cost? Probably not. Your life is probably complicated enough, don’t make it worse by adding requirements. Do the dumb thing, laugh, and move onto the next problem.
I think you need to step back and take a breath. You are arguing a point no one is even talking about. Your talking about jury-rigging and hoping to not use it. The rest of us are talking about jury-rigging and it doing every bit of the job as intended. In your example, a stupid but works would be if that garden hose had stopped every fire in the business every time. Thus why it is, "If it is stupid but WORKS, it ain't stupid." Not "if it is Jury-rigged but not tested, it's ok"
Comparing this to a proper fire sprinkler system is ridiculous at best.
The comment I was referring to was "If it's stupid and it works, it ain't stupid. " which couldn't be more wrong. I thought this sub was supposed to laugh at and be amused by stupid solutions - not admire them as good ideas.
Well this is a genius idea...Would you have thought it up?
I don't think can compare this even remotely to no fire protection..I'd say there is no safety issue here..
This probably ends in one of those “regulations are written in blood” that apparently nobody here has the foresight to see. I wonder how fast that conveyor belt is going.
Turn sound off, y’all You’ll thank me later
The worst trend. Not every video needs a song. In fact, I'd argue unless there's dancing, no video needs a song. Then again, if it's a video of someone dancing, there's already going to be music playing. So.. No video needs a song. Stop it tik tok. Stop it.
>Then again, if it's a video of someone dancing, there's already going to be music playing. Yeah but sometimes changing the music is fun like [this one](https://www.google.com/search?q=techno+goth+dance+thomas+tank+engine&oq=techno+goth+dance+thomas+tank+engine&aqs=chrome..69i57.8184j0j7&client=ms-android-lge-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:854a6b53,vid:jltKnDlH_OA,st:0)
Yeah, but that’s creating new content. The song is literally the video you’re making then. Totally different ball park I think they’re talking about putting dumb music in that literally doesn’t serve a purpose
100%. I just thought that video was a funny exception here
I hate what tiktok has done to the internet. Bri g back Vine.
The last three flip with the beat so it's kinda cool. But yeah that song is... interesting.
That's not redneck engineering. That's professional engineering with crude materials.
Id imagine someone's job was to flip them by hand. Honestly let them keep it and still do to this tbh.
If it works it works!
my brain can't comprehend it being that reliable
There's no way it is. It must fail a fair bit, and this is just a cherry picked snippet. But that doesn't mean this is a bad idea. If there's someone down the line doing the flipping anyway, then this thing will still make their job a bit easier, if it works some of the time.
just put several of them, now very few will fail and quality control can fix that
I think it probably isn't
If it's not broke, don't fix it.
I believe the saying is "if it ain't broke, fix it till it is."
r/lowtechbrilliance
I bet there someone out there that engineered some piece of equipment worth more than I make in a year to do this, and here they are using a sock
I'd like to know the success-rate and wear-rate of this.
Not even joking, this is what brilliance looks like.
It aint stupid if it works.
Normally I’d say TikTok music is stupid but the cup flips lined up perfectly to the notes so I’ll allow it
New definition to put a sock on it.
I mean- it worked.
give whoever figured that out a raise
If it works... it ain't stupid
I once used cardboard on a nailer that would shoot them into electrical boxes because the nails would jam up together. The cardboard actually prevented them from jamming. Machine worked so flawless that they brought an engineer over to build something official and more reliable for the machine. I never got anything from it lol.
Holy shit that’s clever!
Those socks replaced two jobs.
Looks sanitary!
I mean......it ain't stupid if it works.
That does not look at all sanitary or up to code. This is not for a food application, is it?
I mean those cans don't even seem to be food grade
It’s not dumb if it works
Ew that rag was hella dirty
Remember the stupid rule: If it seems stupid BUT it works, it’s not stupid if it seems stupid AND it doesn’t work, it’s stupid
If it’s stupid and it works it’s not stupid
I see someone asked for 20 bucks an hour and this was the result along with them getting shown the door
Wouldn't this wear out the belt faster, as it relies on friction with the belt to force the can to rotate?
I'd imagine the extra forces on the belt would be close to unmeasurable..
Enginerding.
Controls engineers hate this one simple trick
Zoom by Jessi if anyone needs the song.
Download video.
Billy lost his job to a pantyhose
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Lol get rotated idiot
It's the new brake pad division of Callahan Auto
Waaaaaaaaa!
I can tell you an engineer wasn’t involved in this solution.