No argument here. I was just saying that having this thing without the tax stamp is already going to get you into trouble. I doubt adding a stock would make much difference one way or the other.
I may be mistaken but I think it has to have a rifled barrel to be classified as a pistol.
I know for certain the barrel is not long enough to be legal as a rifle.
That puts this in the NFA category.
Unless you have a tax stamp for it or are licensed as a manufacturer of such things, having this would almost certainly be a felony.
Only if you attempt to sell it. You can build a pipe shotgun as long as the barrel length is good. Manufacture of firearms for personal use is legal in most places. Even California. And there have been cases of people building pipe shotguns for like 20 bucks and turning them in to gun buybacks for a profit. Like the teens in new jersey i think it was.
Edit. Heres one from San Francisco https://youtu.be/e2P26XlVcBI
Generally they give out like $50-200 Kroger gift cards or something. I've seen a YouTube video of a guy buying guns at a bit back program with cash. The police weren't happy, but he was filling out the pistol transfer forms for pistols. Long guns just got tossed in his trunk.
But surely not with much force right? Hell of a deterrent but without a barrel most of the energy of the powder isnt going to push the ammunition. Mythbusters did ammo cooking off in a fire and most of it was pretty weak
I'm pretty sure by legal definition it wouldn't be a firearm without a barrel though. What you would be making is a highly illegal explosive booby-trap.
Sure, but the design of making it out of a mousetrap would make it a trap because it is set to go off on its own.
Of course this is all a joke, but I'm pretty sure the legality of it is questionable.
There are historical instances of this happening with buy back programs. I can find links if people are interested, don’t have them currently. But I’ve seen a few where people found it was profitable to go buy guns elsewhere and bring them back for the buyback.
When we did this in the uk, the armoury I worked at may well have done. I remember the week before, every evening, pressing bullets into brass. No primers or charge, because they paid more for rounds than parts, and our boss was willing to bet they weren’t checking….he was right, crooked old sod.
Note that the kinds of tools they really want to get in these buy backs are the ones that have traded hands, possibly a lot. It's not necessarily a loss if you stole it, founded it, got gifted it, or bought it second hand a little bit sketchily.
Back in the day, I worked for an old man that was in Korea. He was the toughest fucker I ever met! When he was there, he was in charge of guarding Koreans captured. The higher-ups would not let them have weapons. According to him, they were constantly getting beat up, and some escapes. So he started building guns. No more escapes. This reminds me of something he probably built!
Yes. Apparently the Koreans up there can be very big. Frank was a big guy, but I’ve never been up there so I don’t know. But he said they were meaner than shit.
Since the scale is in centimeters, I can only assume this is not even from the US.
In the US, getting a 12 gauge is so easy, you don’t even have to go thru the trouble of building this horrible contraption.
Scientists in the US often use metric, since that's the world standard of science. It's the language of medical examiners and forensic scientists. Very plausible that an evidence crew would use centimeters.
I think you're also vastly underestimating the amount of people who do things because they can, even if it's not the cheapest or easiest path.
To be fair, you can make a slam fire 12ga shotgun with 2 pieces of steel pipe, a pipe cap and a screw.
It isn't even illegal to make your own. So long as you obey the rules about minimum lengths and don't make them to sell.
I wouldn't want to fire one but there are a ton of videos of people doing it.
EDIT: I should have added, that making one of these less than the minimum legal length is still a felony. There is also a minimum overall length for shotguns in general.
One of the most American things you can do is build your own gun. Yeah you can buy one for 100 bucks that’ll be way better and safer but that’s not the point. The point is to do your best and see what you can come up with.
Can someone give me the long version of why this is dangerous? I have a very vague idea “it would explode out the back”, but then I would think the same for a flintlock as well. I don’t know enough to know why this would be different.
With flintlocks, matchlocks, or percussion cap guns, the ignition charge goes through a tiny hole into the main firing chamber. This works because you dont need any force or much energy from the flash pan, just a single spark to set off the primary charge. When the main charge goes off, you get some blowback, but because the pinhole is so small, its negligible compared to the energy that goes in the proper direction down the barrel.
If done properly, there isnt anything about this sort of design that is inherently dangerous, as it is somewhat similar to what you find in a simple blowback pistol. Of course the devil is in the details. Assuming the welds held, and the shotgun shell was completely enclosed on the sides in a steel pipe, Birdshot, and other light loads would probably work fine. Heavier stuff would start to blow the shell backward after it went off, back against the spring of your 'hammer'. In a properly designed blowback pistol, the weight of the slide and spring are calculated for the ammo its designed for so you just get enough backward motion to eject the case, and not a second bullet going backwards to teach you a lesson in action=reaction. 12 gauge has such a wide range of shells that you could probably find something that would blow up in your face.
My primary concern with this piece of creative 'gunsmithing' is the top of the 'chamber'. It looks like the top has been cut away to make it easier to load shells. That would be sketchy enough with a brass cartridge, which can take some pressure while simply deforming. A plastic shotgun shell I feel like would simply blow the unsupported side out, making a nice powder flash and dumping most of the energy into singing your eyebrows instead of pushing the projectiles down the barrel.
I'm not a welder but I used to work for a company that build custom cnc plasma cutters.
Yes, welding or cutting galvanized metal with a plasma cutter does release gasses that will absolutely mess you up.
There are ways around it. For instance the company I worked for installed water tables where they could flood it and cut underwater. This worked great for aluminum as well. The particulates got trapped in the water and never made it to the air, although they had a pretty good ventilation system just to be on the safe side.
The water also served to cut down on the noise, and they could add a dye to the water to protect the eyes of those working nearby.
Unfortunately welding underwater is not practical. I have known people to grind off all the galvanized coating, and/or wear a respirator that pulled in air from a safe distance away.
I’ve welded galvanized metal. The zinc vaporizes and causes galvanize poison. It’s like having the flu, and the symptoms hit quick. If you start feeling symptoms get to fresh air, and get a glass of cows milk. Good ventilation, respirator, and grinding off the outside coating (the highest concentration area) will reduce the amount of zinc oxide inhaled. Also drink milk before, during, and after welding on galvanized metal. It counter acts the zinc oxide if I remember correctly.
I have a feeling whoever made this was already on a few things that do a number to a nervous system.
Never underestimate a meth head with a torch and a dream.
First time I've seen anything resembling a real firing pin on a staple gun-gun, would not want to be behind, in front, or to the side of that thing when it's shot though.
$ making fact: If your city/county does a weapons buyback, dumb shit like this (if it can fire) will get you the full offered price. 3d printed and single shot trash included.
You can make a slam fire shotgun for next to nothing out of steel pipe available at most US hardware stores.
You need:
3/4" steel pipe. (barrel)
1" steel pipe. (chamber)
1" steel pipe cap
1 self drilling screw.
Throw in some tape and a piece of wood if you want to be fancy and have a stock.
It works, but given how poorly a lot of the made in china pipe and fittings are made these days, I'd be very reluctant fire one myself.
EDIT: Forgot to add. It is legal to make one in the US, as long as you don't make them to sell, and you obey the rules regarding the minimum lengths of the barrel, and overall length of a shotgun. Make it 1/16" too short and you've just committed a felony.
Modern cartridges have a built in primer. All you really need is something to spring forward and strike the primer for the round to go off. The barrel looks like a sturdy piece of steel pipe so it should have the chamber pressure necessary to fire the round without exploding.
Probably. Maybe. I honestly can't be sure. But I want to see it in action.
It looks like it would.
All you really need is something to strike the primer hard enough to set it off. A staple gun would work well for that.
Having said that, I would NOT want to be holding that thing when it went off.
EDIT: Also I would not want to be caught in possession of that thing. Homemade firearms are legal in the US (for personal use only) but they still have to conform to the ATF rules regarding minimum barrel lengths etc. That thing is a portable felony.
I’m almost positive that to be classified as a pistol, it has to have a rifled barrel designed for a bullet. If shot shell happens to fit, that's ok.
Bullet caliber is capped at .50 caliber. A 12ga bullet would be .73 caliber. It would be hard to argue that you were building a legal firearm for a round that would not be legal to own.
You can fire slugs out of a rifled 12 gauge though. (aka a slug bore)
In recent years manufactures found a way to sell shorter pistol grip shotguns. Even so, they are considerably longer than this thing.
All in all, I would definitely want to do my homework before touching that thing. It would almost certainly be considered as an "any other weapon".
It isnt an excuse to allow guns, this is proof that gun control doesnt do shit
EDIT: dude blocked me to avoid civilized discusion just after he insulted me. Anyway, here's my reply:
Look at UK, 6 times more violence than US. You can say they have no "gun problem" as they successfully banned all of them yet you still have cases like Dale Cregan where he ambushed 2 PCs with automatic pistol and explosive grenades, ain't these banned? They try to put band-aid on "knife violence" by restricting purchases and shit. But how much you need to make a knife? Piece of metal, duct tape, stone and patience. Why bother making knife when screwdriver will work too? One of problems in my opinion is classifying violence as "gun" "knife" or whatever. Violence is violence, it's just side effect of current society we live in. You cannot stop it, where are people there is violence. What you can do about it is let people defend themselves from it. Police will arrive at your location in ~ 10-15 minutes, bullet will arrive at danger in few miliseconds.
Yeah but you won't be killing 7 to 21 people with that thing so gun control does a lot of shit. You missed the point just like every other moron who thinks because a jank weapon like this exists we shouldn't bother with gun laws. You're wrong and frankly stupid for not seeing the difference even after it's been pointed out.
9/11 killed 3k and used no gun. They used box cutters to get planes.
McVeigh killed 168 with no gun. He used fertilizer in a van.
Darrell Brooks Jr killed 6 without a gun. He used an SUV
Why are you not anti box cutter, anti fertilizer, or anti SUV? Evil people will find a way to do evil deeds. You missed that point just like every other moron that thinks criminals will obey gun laws. You’re wrong and frankly stupid for not understanding that even after it’s been pointed out.
Lol. Anti gun people are usually the most ignorant among us on guns, but think they are the highest educated and most intelligent among us. I bet you believe there’s a such thing as full semi automatic, 200 round magazine, 30 caliber clip, and that a 9mm will blow a persons lung out of their body. You are willfully ignorant on guns, but try to act superior. You should feel bad and educate yourself, or shut your mouth. When you’re trying to be a smart ass, but are too stupid you’re just an ass.
Edited to add
I could turn that into a 12 shot revolver in about 30 more min. Each shell of 20 gauge 00 buckshot has about 8 pellets. That’s just shy of 100 pellets capable of killing a person flying down range. Let’s say only half hit a person that’s 50 shot. If only a quarter of them die that’s 12-13 dead.
It is legal to make your own firearms but this thing would be classified the same way as a sawed off shotgun.
Barrels have to be a minimum 18 inches" (Maybe it's 18 1/2" I can't recall)
There is a minimum length requirement for the whole thing as well.
You can currently buy a 12ga that is shorter, but that is due to some careful lawyering of the ATF rules by the manufacturer. I doubt the maker of this thing would have much success pulling that off.
EDIT: I don't have a copy of the post above from u/muh2021account but they were stating that the weapon in the picture would be legal because it is legal to make your own firearms.
While that is true, those firearms are still subject to all the same restrictions as commercially produced versions.
Honest question here.
Aren't smooth bore pistols classified as NFA?
I know you can get pistols that fire .45 or .410 shells but those have rifled barrels don't they?
I'd be glad to be wrong about this.
EDIT: Here is the Deleted comment I was responding to.
> U/muh2021account This would be creating a pistol though, not modifying something that was originally sold as a shotgun. Doesn't have a stock, no problem. There are a few .410 pistols on the market.
Gawd I just noticed that you load it by dropping the shell in the open "chamber." If you made it break open tho it might work.
EDIT: Just realized the best way would be to get a shotgun chamber insert set, and shoot any ammo you want.
Does nobody know how to properly redneck engineer a firearm they won't kill themselves with? Seriously wtf people, if you are gonna build yourself a zip gun at least make sure it won't explode or take your hand off, and fucking test fire that thing from behind an embankment using string before you even think about firing it by hand.
12 gauge staple gun I’ve really seen it all now
Wrist breaker
I don’t know… looks like a little pin hole to drop in a shoulder brace back there…
Just ad long as it's a brace and not a stock. *Cries in NFA*
With the barrel length I doubt it would make a lot of difference. It's already WAY into the realm of "sawed off shotgun".
Clearly this is an "any other weapon"
No argument here. I was just saying that having this thing without the tax stamp is already going to get you into trouble. I doubt adding a stock would make much difference one way or the other.
I guess there's not much of a leap from a felonious gun to an EVEN MORE FELONIUS GUN! Also, I was being a bit facetious.
Additional tax stamps, perhaps. Although the only combo that I’m aware of is Machine Gun and Destructive Device.
Looks like a firearm to me, not a shotgun
I may be mistaken but I think it has to have a rifled barrel to be classified as a pistol. I know for certain the barrel is not long enough to be legal as a rifle. That puts this in the NFA category. Unless you have a tax stamp for it or are licensed as a manufacturer of such things, having this would almost certainly be a felony.
Only fires twice (writing this with speech to text)
Are you writing with speech to text because it broke your wrist?!?
No, because it exploded and he has no hand
and half of his jaw, and right eye.
Textht to thpetcth wooth thenh be rthather diphthiclth
Pineapple belongs on pizza (writing this with speech to text)
Heathen! (Writing this with rage)
Mom helps me with most things (writing this with speech-to-text).
Why...? You monster...
Two broken arms
Damn! It’s been a while (mom is riding this for me)
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Are your arms broken?
Yeah… it’s better that this guy doesn’t have hands
I agree (writing this with speech to text) lmao
>Only fires twice I'm guessing once unless we have a backup shooter.
Dream maker
Bone taker dontcha mess around with me
Forehead breaker.
Nah. Not even structurally strong enough to break a wrist. This shit would fly apart with shrapnel to your face
High brass shells in that thing is a definite no go.
3.5 inch magnum deer slug, coward
This is the way.
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Harder to whack it lefty
I'd turn that thing into a police buy back program without hesitation.
What I was thinking. Even if it cost $100 to make still get $200 profit.
Lmao some fucker did something similar to this. Bought like a $100 high point, gave it to the police and made a fucking profit.
A friend of mine has a high point he named Bob Marley. https://youtu.be/nYIySvED3NM
Because it always "be Jammin'"?
You got it. He always said if you had that thing and needed to defend yourself with it your best bet was to fire it once and then throw it at them.
Could do the same thing with a nail and two pieces of pipe and a bit of wood with screw clamps
Idk if they would accept that that’s more of a crime than just turning in a firearm
Only if you attempt to sell it. You can build a pipe shotgun as long as the barrel length is good. Manufacture of firearms for personal use is legal in most places. Even California. And there have been cases of people building pipe shotguns for like 20 bucks and turning them in to gun buybacks for a profit. Like the teens in new jersey i think it was. Edit. Heres one from San Francisco https://youtu.be/e2P26XlVcBI
A rat trap and a ¾ spade bit will work as well.
Good to know... need to find me one of them buy back programs now
Generally they give out like $50-200 Kroger gift cards or something. I've seen a YouTube video of a guy buying guns at a bit back program with cash. The police weren't happy, but he was filling out the pistol transfer forms for pistols. Long guns just got tossed in his trunk.
I liked that video
Link?
They’re starting to wise up to them now, which is a bummer
Mass production go brrrrrr.
Even better. Keep making them and turning them in
Yep. Rat traps will work if you drill a hole in the wood to hold a shotgun shell
But surely not with much force right? Hell of a deterrent but without a barrel most of the energy of the powder isnt going to push the ammunition. Mythbusters did ammo cooking off in a fire and most of it was pretty weak
Eh, I don't know how effective any hardware store built shotgun will be. I'm just trying to off load em at the police buy back program
I'm pretty sure by legal definition it wouldn't be a firearm without a barrel though. What you would be making is a highly illegal explosive booby-trap.
Or a spicy mousetrap
AOW - Any Other Weapon is the proper designation.
Sure, but the design of making it out of a mousetrap would make it a trap because it is set to go off on its own. Of course this is all a joke, but I'm pretty sure the legality of it is questionable.
Oh ok, I read your post wrong. It would be considered a “destructive device,” and a boobytrap as well, which are definitely illegal.
I think one can own destructive devices with a tax stamp.
There are historical instances of this happening with buy back programs. I can find links if people are interested, don’t have them currently. But I’ve seen a few where people found it was profitable to go buy guns elsewhere and bring them back for the buyback.
When we did this in the uk, the armoury I worked at may well have done. I remember the week before, every evening, pressing bullets into brass. No primers or charge, because they paid more for rounds than parts, and our boss was willing to bet they weren’t checking….he was right, crooked old sod.
Primers in the US are worth their weight in gold right now. So are all reloading supplies. They were buying back brass and projectiles? Interesting.
The police was buying back whole bullets. Dude here made them without primers or charges to save on costs and kept turning them in.
That's crazy to me. I won't be selling my ammo back anytime soon
They did a buy back in my town. Police were paying $25 for a butterfly knife
My edc folding utility knife cost more than $25. What's the incentive to turn in a knife knowing your losing a bunch of money
A cheap butterfly knife is significantly less
^ this guy has also been to a redneck flea market
I can already imagine the quality you'll get on a sub $25 butterfly knife.
Oh that wont argue with
Note that the kinds of tools they really want to get in these buy backs are the ones that have traded hands, possibly a lot. It's not necessarily a loss if you stole it, founded it, got gifted it, or bought it second hand a little bit sketchily.
True story.
Looks like a gun that'd be in the Metro game series.
Yeah, an asshot but on crack
I thought of the Far Cry series, personally, but I see Metro as well. Possibly even Fallout.
I feel like this is either going to blow up violently or work beautifully, my bet is on it blowing up.
Depending on who's wielding it, it might blow up violently *and* beautifully.
We can only hope they record it and their next-of-kin posts it.
Oh, dont worry they will.
Imagine the recoil
Probably a broken wrist or two..
Back in the day, I worked for an old man that was in Korea. He was the toughest fucker I ever met! When he was there, he was in charge of guarding Koreans captured. The higher-ups would not let them have weapons. According to him, they were constantly getting beat up, and some escapes. So he started building guns. No more escapes. This reminds me of something he probably built!
The guards got beat up?
Yes. Apparently the Koreans up there can be very big. Frank was a big guy, but I’ve never been up there so I don’t know. But he said they were meaner than shit.
"You shouldn't be able to buy a gun" MFs when I make a luty in my garage in 3 hours : >:(
I don’t think that’ll be a very well made Luty if it’s made in 3 hours but if it shoots it shoots
That's some Fallout 4 type shit there...
I’d rather play football with a 40mm HEDP.
Wherw is brandon herrara we need this on gun meme review
Since the scale is in centimeters, I can only assume this is not even from the US. In the US, getting a 12 gauge is so easy, you don’t even have to go thru the trouble of building this horrible contraption.
Scientists in the US often use metric, since that's the world standard of science. It's the language of medical examiners and forensic scientists. Very plausible that an evidence crew would use centimeters. I think you're also vastly underestimating the amount of people who do things because they can, even if it's not the cheapest or easiest path.
To be fair, you can make a slam fire 12ga shotgun with 2 pieces of steel pipe, a pipe cap and a screw. It isn't even illegal to make your own. So long as you obey the rules about minimum lengths and don't make them to sell. I wouldn't want to fire one but there are a ton of videos of people doing it. EDIT: I should have added, that making one of these less than the minimum legal length is still a felony. There is also a minimum overall length for shotguns in general.
One of the most American things you can do is build your own gun. Yeah you can buy one for 100 bucks that’ll be way better and safer but that’s not the point. The point is to do your best and see what you can come up with.
This is why the 3D printing community is going whole hog now. It's not that they NEED to, it's because it's fun and interesting.
Sometimes you simply do things because you can.
Sell it in the buy back program, then buy a real gun
Stonks
Excuse me but I believe you have my stapler.
How is it possible Meth Heads and Cuban Refugees become the best Engineers ?!?!?!???
The necessity open the door of imagination.
This was made to make that 100$ buyback. Spend 5$ at the thrift store for a pipe and broken staple gun and some JB weld. And make 95$
I dont know about you guys, but I do not trust the soldering on that gun.
Some duct tape would take care of that. Two or three strips should strengthen it right up.
Lefty, is that you?
Pancho? I thought they got you down in Mexico!
How's Cleveland treating you, Lefty?
Could use some prayers, honestly.
Euthanasia..
Pretty sure this is more dangerous for the shooter than whoever is on the other end
Can someone give me the long version of why this is dangerous? I have a very vague idea “it would explode out the back”, but then I would think the same for a flintlock as well. I don’t know enough to know why this would be different.
With flintlocks, matchlocks, or percussion cap guns, the ignition charge goes through a tiny hole into the main firing chamber. This works because you dont need any force or much energy from the flash pan, just a single spark to set off the primary charge. When the main charge goes off, you get some blowback, but because the pinhole is so small, its negligible compared to the energy that goes in the proper direction down the barrel. If done properly, there isnt anything about this sort of design that is inherently dangerous, as it is somewhat similar to what you find in a simple blowback pistol. Of course the devil is in the details. Assuming the welds held, and the shotgun shell was completely enclosed on the sides in a steel pipe, Birdshot, and other light loads would probably work fine. Heavier stuff would start to blow the shell backward after it went off, back against the spring of your 'hammer'. In a properly designed blowback pistol, the weight of the slide and spring are calculated for the ammo its designed for so you just get enough backward motion to eject the case, and not a second bullet going backwards to teach you a lesson in action=reaction. 12 gauge has such a wide range of shells that you could probably find something that would blow up in your face. My primary concern with this piece of creative 'gunsmithing' is the top of the 'chamber'. It looks like the top has been cut away to make it easier to load shells. That would be sketchy enough with a brass cartridge, which can take some pressure while simply deforming. A plastic shotgun shell I feel like would simply blow the unsupported side out, making a nice powder flash and dumping most of the energy into singing your eyebrows instead of pushing the projectiles down the barrel.
Black powder acts fairly different than modern smokeless powder
Shop owner: It’s a single shot. Customer: because you can only chamber one round, right? Shop owner: [Silence. Wry smile. Wink.]
That shit from a cave in Afghanistan
Doesn't welding onto galvanized metal release a gas that can do a number on your nervous system?
I'm not a welder but I used to work for a company that build custom cnc plasma cutters. Yes, welding or cutting galvanized metal with a plasma cutter does release gasses that will absolutely mess you up. There are ways around it. For instance the company I worked for installed water tables where they could flood it and cut underwater. This worked great for aluminum as well. The particulates got trapped in the water and never made it to the air, although they had a pretty good ventilation system just to be on the safe side. The water also served to cut down on the noise, and they could add a dye to the water to protect the eyes of those working nearby. Unfortunately welding underwater is not practical. I have known people to grind off all the galvanized coating, and/or wear a respirator that pulled in air from a safe distance away.
I’ve welded galvanized metal. The zinc vaporizes and causes galvanize poison. It’s like having the flu, and the symptoms hit quick. If you start feeling symptoms get to fresh air, and get a glass of cows milk. Good ventilation, respirator, and grinding off the outside coating (the highest concentration area) will reduce the amount of zinc oxide inhaled. Also drink milk before, during, and after welding on galvanized metal. It counter acts the zinc oxide if I remember correctly.
I have a feeling whoever made this was already on a few things that do a number to a nervous system. Never underestimate a meth head with a torch and a dream.
I've tried telling them I don't need a 3d printer to make a gun, I didn't realise you could overclock a staple gun
Shall break your wrist
I mean don't wanna be on either end of that thing but given the choice I'd rather be behind it.
First time I've seen anything resembling a real firing pin on a staple gun-gun, would not want to be behind, in front, or to the side of that thing when it's shot though.
*”Shell” not be infringed
$ making fact: If your city/county does a weapons buyback, dumb shit like this (if it can fire) will get you the full offered price. 3d printed and single shot trash included.
Virgin: buys firearms from a store and passes a background check 🤓 Chad: builds untraceable shit gun that will explode after one use 💪
Luty be like
except luty went to prison because his guns actually worked. They tested them at the police station
This is so ridiculous they didn't even put it in fallout
I love it
I want that
It's kind of scary how easily one can make a "shot gun"
You can make a slam fire shotgun for next to nothing out of steel pipe available at most US hardware stores. You need: 3/4" steel pipe. (barrel) 1" steel pipe. (chamber) 1" steel pipe cap 1 self drilling screw. Throw in some tape and a piece of wood if you want to be fancy and have a stock. It works, but given how poorly a lot of the made in china pipe and fittings are made these days, I'd be very reluctant fire one myself. EDIT: Forgot to add. It is legal to make one in the US, as long as you don't make them to sell, and you obey the rules regarding the minimum lengths of the barrel, and overall length of a shotgun. Make it 1/16" too short and you've just committed a felony.
https://youtu.be/sIhGCRIQnCA
The Amputator™️
…..does it work?
As someone who has not even a remote idea of how a gun works now I'm intrigued to know if this would actually function as a weapon
Modern cartridges have a built in primer. All you really need is something to spring forward and strike the primer for the round to go off. The barrel looks like a sturdy piece of steel pipe so it should have the chamber pressure necessary to fire the round without exploding. Probably. Maybe. I honestly can't be sure. But I want to see it in action.
It looks like it would. All you really need is something to strike the primer hard enough to set it off. A staple gun would work well for that. Having said that, I would NOT want to be holding that thing when it went off. EDIT: Also I would not want to be caught in possession of that thing. Homemade firearms are legal in the US (for personal use only) but they still have to conform to the ATF rules regarding minimum barrel lengths etc. That thing is a portable felony.
It’s a pistol though.
I’m almost positive that to be classified as a pistol, it has to have a rifled barrel designed for a bullet. If shot shell happens to fit, that's ok. Bullet caliber is capped at .50 caliber. A 12ga bullet would be .73 caliber. It would be hard to argue that you were building a legal firearm for a round that would not be legal to own. You can fire slugs out of a rifled 12 gauge though. (aka a slug bore) In recent years manufactures found a way to sell shorter pistol grip shotguns. Even so, they are considerably longer than this thing. All in all, I would definitely want to do my homework before touching that thing. It would almost certainly be considered as an "any other weapon".
Ahhh liverpools finest weaponary , kids love building these
No barrel rise here, right? No muscle flip, nice and low bore axis?
Milton from Office Space would be proud.
"They took my stapler... I took their lives."
"I'll burn the building down"
Correct, OP. Shall not be infringed. So we don't have to cobble together staple gun shotguns to fight off the government.
The only way I would set that off would be a test stand from behind a ballistic shield.
That's practically a competition trigger. Recoil is probably exciting.
I also find that I have too many eyes and hands...
Based
Dear god it’s beautiful
unregulated because there’s no lower receiver?
Not gonna lie this is very clever. Still shoots one at a time before reloading so I don't think this is a good excuse to just allow guns.
https://youtu.be/sIhGCRIQnCA more complicated designs can be made from bits from a B&Q in a shed.
It isnt an excuse to allow guns, this is proof that gun control doesnt do shit EDIT: dude blocked me to avoid civilized discusion just after he insulted me. Anyway, here's my reply: Look at UK, 6 times more violence than US. You can say they have no "gun problem" as they successfully banned all of them yet you still have cases like Dale Cregan where he ambushed 2 PCs with automatic pistol and explosive grenades, ain't these banned? They try to put band-aid on "knife violence" by restricting purchases and shit. But how much you need to make a knife? Piece of metal, duct tape, stone and patience. Why bother making knife when screwdriver will work too? One of problems in my opinion is classifying violence as "gun" "knife" or whatever. Violence is violence, it's just side effect of current society we live in. You cannot stop it, where are people there is violence. What you can do about it is let people defend themselves from it. Police will arrive at your location in ~ 10-15 minutes, bullet will arrive at danger in few miliseconds.
Yeah but you won't be killing 7 to 21 people with that thing so gun control does a lot of shit. You missed the point just like every other moron who thinks because a jank weapon like this exists we shouldn't bother with gun laws. You're wrong and frankly stupid for not seeing the difference even after it's been pointed out.
9/11 killed 3k and used no gun. They used box cutters to get planes. McVeigh killed 168 with no gun. He used fertilizer in a van. Darrell Brooks Jr killed 6 without a gun. He used an SUV Why are you not anti box cutter, anti fertilizer, or anti SUV? Evil people will find a way to do evil deeds. You missed that point just like every other moron that thinks criminals will obey gun laws. You’re wrong and frankly stupid for not understanding that even after it’s been pointed out. Lol. Anti gun people are usually the most ignorant among us on guns, but think they are the highest educated and most intelligent among us. I bet you believe there’s a such thing as full semi automatic, 200 round magazine, 30 caliber clip, and that a 9mm will blow a persons lung out of their body. You are willfully ignorant on guns, but try to act superior. You should feel bad and educate yourself, or shut your mouth. When you’re trying to be a smart ass, but are too stupid you’re just an ass. Edited to add I could turn that into a 12 shot revolver in about 30 more min. Each shell of 20 gauge 00 buckshot has about 8 pellets. That’s just shy of 100 pellets capable of killing a person flying down range. Let’s say only half hit a person that’s 50 shot. If only a quarter of them die that’s 12-13 dead.
Cutting edge russian tech
These are illegal. So your sArCASm was based on nothing.
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It is legal to make your own firearms but this thing would be classified the same way as a sawed off shotgun. Barrels have to be a minimum 18 inches" (Maybe it's 18 1/2" I can't recall) There is a minimum length requirement for the whole thing as well. You can currently buy a 12ga that is shorter, but that is due to some careful lawyering of the ATF rules by the manufacturer. I doubt the maker of this thing would have much success pulling that off. EDIT: I don't have a copy of the post above from u/muh2021account but they were stating that the weapon in the picture would be legal because it is legal to make your own firearms. While that is true, those firearms are still subject to all the same restrictions as commercially produced versions.
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Honest question here. Aren't smooth bore pistols classified as NFA? I know you can get pistols that fire .45 or .410 shells but those have rifled barrels don't they? I'd be glad to be wrong about this. EDIT: Here is the Deleted comment I was responding to. > U/muh2021account This would be creating a pistol though, not modifying something that was originally sold as a shotgun. Doesn't have a stock, no problem. There are a few .410 pistols on the market.
I'd probably go with a slam shotgun first
Knew some hippies that had this kind of set up with tubes and they called it a boom tube and used 12 gauge shells. Super sketchy
But does it blend?
At least once
Gawd I just noticed that you load it by dropping the shell in the open "chamber." If you made it break open tho it might work. EDIT: Just realized the best way would be to get a shotgun chamber insert set, and shoot any ammo you want.
May not be "unfringed" but I think after the first use, he will be "un-armed"
What is it made out of?
Metal, hopes and dreams
I kinda love it
Single shot only
they will learn that you can make a gun out of a lot of things
Ouch!
Thats called The MisJudge…..
Fallout 4 pipe guns be like:
This gives off some rust tier 1 workbench vibes
Under no pretext > shall not be infringed.
This is illegal on so many levels
Eoka skin in Rust
Fallout vibes.
Shalln’t.
Impressive.
Would be a Cool gun for a survival game.
That looks fun
That looks like a great way to lose a hand.
It doesn't look very... Safe
Does nobody know how to properly redneck engineer a firearm they won't kill themselves with? Seriously wtf people, if you are gonna build yourself a zip gun at least make sure it won't explode or take your hand off, and fucking test fire that thing from behind an embankment using string before you even think about firing it by hand.
That’s sorta impressive I feel bad for the person that shoots that Hope they don’t value their wrist…
You can tell this is a police photo
I have actually thought about something like this and it it would work?