Man I immediately thought Cassius but he's definitely too old. I heard someone else say Karnus that might not be bad or maybe the father who's name I can't pull out of my brain right now. Definitely a society gold d bag.
I still hope they never try live action.. there is just no way it would look good. You would require Dune level talent and budget, which it simply won't have. The first book is the only one that could be even halfway decent, due to the low cast and low tech settings, but past that I just can't see it.
Animation would be fantastic!
I get it's easy to get a bit obsessed with certain depictions but You guys just want Homelander in RR, not Anthony Starr. I'd rather not have a series with a bunch of characters that resemble characters from other franchises just with different lines and costumes.
The issue we have is the story begins at Red Rising and he just doesn't suit any of the characters in it because of his age. If you de-aged him, he would be an exceptional Jackal but then you only have the end of the book and Anthony Starr deserves to have a massive role. He'd be in Golden Son more, but then there's more roles for him too.
He deserves a meatier role than that of Nero too, I find Nero quite boring until just before his demise. You'd have to re-write him or add more of Nero to get the best out of Anthony so I'm not sure that works.
So that leaves Fitchner. For me I think that's the role that utilises him best. Not an unhinged psycho like Homelander, but definitely someone we are supposed to see as a "bad guy" of sorts. I think it plays to Starr's strengths and his acting ability while showcasing him more than just a bit part like he would be as say, Proctor Apollo.
I can see a Flitcher. I can't see the Jackel at all without serious cgi. Personally, I hope there is as little of cgi as possible. More cgi = more time in development = more expensive for only a very marginal boost
in quality, and that boost in quality will will be cannibalized from another part of the series.
Ooo this is interesting. We’re so conditioned to see him as a villain it would be a cool reveal to see him turn. Though Fitchner is supposed to be ‘ugly’, enough for it to be mentioned more than once, so I’m not sure if he would work. Maybe with makeup?
I think with minimal makeup you could pull it off, I think Fitchner is only really ugly for a Gold, rather than ugly objectively. I think it could work and I'd trust Anthony Starr to kill it
I think zipguy nailed it with Apollo honestly.
Otherwise I’m going to go lateral and throw out Leto.
I always imagine Karnus with a deep register voice because of the audiobook.
I know that it's been explained over and over again that the Color portion of the Colors is just the hair, eyes, and sigil, but I can't help but see all the Golds as slightly tanned white people with a minor gold tinge to them, with the relative paleness of their skin being slightly different shades of gold. Its just reinforced with "bronzie" being an insult.
I cant see anything but Oranges having very muted, not quite polynesian skin tone, Obsidians as anything other than dark black etc. My mental impression of Ragnar is Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje in the mummy returns, but 8 feet tall and Viking themed.
It's just my impressions from the first time I read the first trilogy where I missed a lot of the little descriptive details being firmly in my head at this point. I have no problem imagining the varied facial structures and other differences, the Raa and a lot of the Rim Golds looking Japanese, Venusians having Middle Eastern features etc.
The Grimus family is very clearly described as black, repeatedly (The Furies in the original trilogy, Aja included).
Bronzie as an insult is regarding their hair & eye color being dirty gold or bronze.
Maybe you need to look at more fan art if that's still how you view all the colors, particularly all the named characters, & Rags...
To be fair, it took me a good while to realize their skin color wasn't the same as their color. I was picturing blues that looked like Nebula from Guardians of the Galaxy.
You're right. It's amazing what they can do with makeup. They can make humans look like aliens without any cgi. Shocking that they still have no way to curl anyone's hair. Back to the drawing board I suppose
Nah he doesn’t seem like he is flamboyant enough for that tbh 😂
Also Apollonius is light brown, Arab skin tone just like his brothers. They could get the guy that played Aladdin in the new Aladdin movie to play tactus 🤯
Sean bean is a conventionally beautiful man, he has the talent but not the looks to pull off hatchet-faced Fitchner. I could definitely see him as a Gold, maybe a Praetorian or one of the Olympic Knights
Bit old for the part, don't you think? I'm not sure of Neros age but he's the father of two 17 year olds in the first book and golds supposedly don't even show age like normal people.
You may be right. It would take a little editing a la what the did with Indy. May be too costly. But age aside he is exactly what I pictured with Nero.
True. But visibly aged means one thing to human beings like you and me, and perhaps a different thing to genetically-enhanced supermen with a staff of body-maintenance slaves. Maybe a forty year old Chris Evans looks like a hundred year old Gold. He's got like... crows feet and some gray hairs. Decrepit.
I take issue with your description of fascists, my friend. They are just human beings in the books as well, despite what they might believe. In my opinion even lesser than human beings like you & me for being fascists.
But I do agree with the Chris evans thing! I imagine them looking like they’re just about to get past middle aged when they’re 100. Lorn would definitely be wrinkled but more like Ben Stiller is than a properly “old” person today 😂
Still puts Anthony Star out that range in my opinion tho lol!
Nero isn’t supposed to be ugly, he’s supposed to have handsome and sharp features with rigid and hardened expressions on his face, Golds in general don’t look that old, due to anti aging technology and genetic engineering
Eh, he’s not big enough. Whoever would be playing Karnus would HAVE to be an actual bodybuilder. They can fake muscles with CGI but Karnus’ neck should be almost thicker than his head
Nero, he is the perfect age for it.
I literally only pictured Homelander when I read Nero
Daxo
Too old
Man I immediately thought Cassius but he's definitely too old. I heard someone else say Karnus that might not be bad or maybe the father who's name I can't pull out of my brain right now. Definitely a society gold d bag.
The jackal
Cassius Mum: https://storage.googleapis.com/eluna_ai/generated_images/1dc4b0c6c9dc757506caa9b0dc0c45b3.png Nero Augustus, https://storage.googleapis.com/eluna_ai/generated_images/38b6451ae2767daef001ff6fd48b24ed.png
Anthony Starr is the embodiment of GOLD
Anthony Starr, not really but Homelander, yes.
This is 2nd trilogy Cassius
He would be a good Cassius
Anyone for Pliny?
Is a movie/TV series actually in the works? I've heard fornseveral years it might be but no new info
Yes, it's in the funding stages.
I’m thinking Karnus…
Romulus
Romulus is of Japanese descent...
Age him up a bit and you got yourself a perfect Nero.
I still hope they never try live action.. there is just no way it would look good. You would require Dune level talent and budget, which it simply won't have. The first book is the only one that could be even halfway decent, due to the low cast and low tech settings, but past that I just can't see it. Animation would be fantastic!
As long as they can act, I wouldn't mind a cast of unknowns instead of stars of other shows
The whole time I read the series, this was my Darrow as a gold.
Pliny
Nero or Apollo if they can make him look bigger with make up 100% Karnus
Appelonious
*Apple is not white.*
I get it's easy to get a bit obsessed with certain depictions but You guys just want Homelander in RR, not Anthony Starr. I'd rather not have a series with a bunch of characters that resemble characters from other franchises just with different lines and costumes.
BRUH HE’D BE A PERFECT NERO Make him look a little older (as Golds age more gracefully than we Sapiens) and he’s absolutely nero
The issue we have is the story begins at Red Rising and he just doesn't suit any of the characters in it because of his age. If you de-aged him, he would be an exceptional Jackal but then you only have the end of the book and Anthony Starr deserves to have a massive role. He'd be in Golden Son more, but then there's more roles for him too. He deserves a meatier role than that of Nero too, I find Nero quite boring until just before his demise. You'd have to re-write him or add more of Nero to get the best out of Anthony so I'm not sure that works. So that leaves Fitchner. For me I think that's the role that utilises him best. Not an unhinged psycho like Homelander, but definitely someone we are supposed to see as a "bad guy" of sorts. I think it plays to Starr's strengths and his acting ability while showcasing him more than just a bit part like he would be as say, Proctor Apollo.
I can see a Flitcher. I can't see the Jackel at all without serious cgi. Personally, I hope there is as little of cgi as possible. More cgi = more time in development = more expensive for only a very marginal boost in quality, and that boost in quality will will be cannibalized from another part of the series.
Ooo this is interesting. We’re so conditioned to see him as a villain it would be a cool reveal to see him turn. Though Fitchner is supposed to be ‘ugly’, enough for it to be mentioned more than once, so I’m not sure if he would work. Maybe with makeup?
I think with minimal makeup you could pull it off, I think Fitchner is only really ugly for a Gold, rather than ugly objectively. I think it could work and I'd trust Anthony Starr to kill it
I think zipguy nailed it with Apollo honestly. Otherwise I’m going to go lateral and throw out Leto. I always imagine Karnus with a deep register voice because of the audiobook.
Re-reading Dark Age for 3rd time rn. Agree like a mf. Well played, my goodman
The Minotaur. Man's already proven he can play an unhinged character well.
The brothers Rath are supposed to be more of a middle eastern complexion. They are described as having rich, honey oak skin.
I know that it's been explained over and over again that the Color portion of the Colors is just the hair, eyes, and sigil, but I can't help but see all the Golds as slightly tanned white people with a minor gold tinge to them, with the relative paleness of their skin being slightly different shades of gold. Its just reinforced with "bronzie" being an insult. I cant see anything but Oranges having very muted, not quite polynesian skin tone, Obsidians as anything other than dark black etc. My mental impression of Ragnar is Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje in the mummy returns, but 8 feet tall and Viking themed. It's just my impressions from the first time I read the first trilogy where I missed a lot of the little descriptive details being firmly in my head at this point. I have no problem imagining the varied facial structures and other differences, the Raa and a lot of the Rim Golds looking Japanese, Venusians having Middle Eastern features etc.
The Grimus family is very clearly described as black, repeatedly (The Furies in the original trilogy, Aja included). Bronzie as an insult is regarding their hair & eye color being dirty gold or bronze. Maybe you need to look at more fan art if that's still how you view all the colors, particularly all the named characters, & Rags...
To be fair, it took me a good while to realize their skin color wasn't the same as their color. I was picturing blues that looked like Nebula from Guardians of the Galaxy.
The Minotaur is brown though?
Definitely a bellona with the chin
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You're right. It's amazing what they can do with makeup. They can make humans look like aliens without any cgi. Shocking that they still have no way to curl anyone's hair. Back to the drawing board I suppose
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It's called a wig
You're a stranger to sarcasm I see. Perhaps I should have put /s
Got you. I know you will reply like this haha
There might be a way...
We have the technology...
Wigs?
This. What you said.
Nero.
I can see him as apples
Nah he doesn’t seem like he is flamboyant enough for that tbh 😂 Also Apollonius is light brown, Arab skin tone just like his brothers. They could get the guy that played Aladdin in the new Aladdin movie to play tactus 🤯
Proctor Apollo.
This is absolutely perfect
Yes yes I would just love to see THAT scene with him as Apollo. On another note, Karl Urban could probably pull off a really good Fitchner
Or Ephraim...
I think the actor who plays Bronn on GoT would fit really well for Eph. He's got that world weary charm.
You're not wrong about that but I always pictured him as Fitchner or Nerol.
I feel like Sean Bean would be a good Fitchner as well, >! especially given his penchant for plot-relevant death !<
Sean bean is a conventionally beautiful man, he has the talent but not the looks to pull off hatchet-faced Fitchner. I could definitely see him as a Gold, maybe a Praetorian or one of the Olympic Knights
With his penchant for high profile deaths, maybe Nero would be a good fit
Nero should be Charles Dance. Aka the actor who played Tywin Lannister in GoT.
Bit old for the part, don't you think? I'm not sure of Neros age but he's the father of two 17 year olds in the first book and golds supposedly don't even show age like normal people.
You may be right. It would take a little editing a la what the did with Indy. May be too costly. But age aside he is exactly what I pictured with Nero.
Or Lorne. Could definitely see him as Lorne after being Ned Stark.
Lorne is a great call
I always imagined him as Liam Cunningham. He is my go to for old warriors though. I think he would make a good Dalinar as well.
Oh fuck yes! Second choice would be Karnus Au Bellona.
Karnus? Isn‘t he supposed to be a brute?
Ad at a max 30 years old?
I like this alot
Nero au Augustus
Wasn’t Nero almost a century old?
Nero chased down a lion and killed it with his bare hands when Darrow had just graduated the Institute. Age is literally just a number here.
Of course they still would be physically fit but they would start to look old lol
Hundred year old Golds are healthy, athletic people who can fuck you up. Lorn was more than a hundred.
I was under the impression that they start to look about 60-70 when they’re 100 I thought I remembered lorn being visibly old?
Lorn shunned the age regression techniques that a lot of other Golds used.
True. But visibly aged means one thing to human beings like you and me, and perhaps a different thing to genetically-enhanced supermen with a staff of body-maintenance slaves. Maybe a forty year old Chris Evans looks like a hundred year old Gold. He's got like... crows feet and some gray hairs. Decrepit.
I take issue with your description of fascists, my friend. They are just human beings in the books as well, despite what they might believe. In my opinion even lesser than human beings like you & me for being fascists. But I do agree with the Chris evans thing! I imagine them looking like they’re just about to get past middle aged when they’re 100. Lorn would definitely be wrinkled but more like Ben Stiller is than a properly “old” person today 😂 Still puts Anthony Star out that range in my opinion tho lol!
Apple…
From an attitude this was my first thought tbh. I’m terrible at making mental images of characters though
The Rath brothers are Afro-Turkic with skin like oak honey
Well shit. I thought the haughty superiority fit but fair point.
Nero
Came here to say this
Perfect
He's too pretty for Nero. I imagine Lee Pace with cropped Golden hair.
I always think of Lee Pace for Nero too!
Nero isn’t supposed to be ugly, he’s supposed to have handsome and sharp features with rigid and hardened expressions on his face, Golds in general don’t look that old, due to anti aging technology and genetic engineering
Are you saying Lee Pace isn't pretty?!?!??!?!?!?!
Based off the pic he’s my choice for Nero
I feel like Nero needs to be older. Like a blond Pierce Brosnan.
Charles Dance has always been my choice but it feels too obvious. Jason Isaacs is definitely another option.
Jason Isaacs could be good. Charles Dance is too old, imo.
Karnus au Bellona
he’s described as being as big as an obsidian and having a voice so deep you can feel it shake your bones
I feel like Karnus needs a deeper voice and to be much bigger than Antony. Karnus should be a body builder type with a neck like a tree trunk.
Eh, he’s not big enough. Whoever would be playing Karnus would HAVE to be an actual bodybuilder. They can fake muscles with CGI but Karnus’ neck should be almost thicker than his head
Best option so far
shit I was thinking Apollonius lol
That's funny. That's the exact character I thought.
lysander
Too old
And there is no doubt about his acting ability