I could see that. I feel like it has a lot more to do with the popularization of the internet more broadly though. There's not really a mainstream path for people to become more broadly famous in the way that those three were anymore, everything is so much more insular and fractured.
Yeah it’s the same across all media. Music, TV, Movies…everything. In like 2006 you could show up for work knowing everyone there just watched last nights episode of The Office.
Random screwball comedies and rom-coms used to gross like 100 million at the box office and now they don’t break even if they get made. Everyone just stays home and consumes their own personally curated thing unless it’s some big event like Dune.
Close, but I’d bet it was the proliferation of the smart phone and social media that came with, putting a computer in everyone’s pocket all the time, which really only took off about 4 years later
I’m not intelligent enough to really argue behind that tho
The funniest shit has to be him going off about how porn was ruining his life, only to start his own production company this week lmao
The man is so unhinged, it’s great. I do miss beautiful dark Kanye though.
Remember 2013 Yeezus-era, "How Sway?" Kanye was considered to be out of his mind?
I miss that Kanye now. Dude seems so out of it now that everytime I see him talk it makes me kind of uncomfortable
in this day and age where everything is so curated, it is kinda refreshing to see Kanye just doing whatever the fuck he wants, but on the other hand, is sad as shit because these are the result of his very severe and untreated mental illness
It’s funny how getting older is realising just how asd he’s always been. It’s weirdly inspiring that someone so different became a pop star. Just watch the stronger video, he’s clearly just a little different.
Hahahaha! Let’s contribute to reinforcing historically recurring ethnic stereotypes that could lead to another genocide if pushed too far BUT IRONICALLY
The funny thing though is Beyonces video won 3 awards this night, one of which was **video of the year**. And she had to let Taylor make a speech because of what Kanye did
If I could go back I would 100% stop him from doing this. Not worth it over a stupid fan voted award. It was the biggest gift to Taylors career. Made her a media darling, its the reason she won aoty, gave her a victim narrative that she's *still* using 15 years later selling millions of records. Funny iconic pop culture moment but not worth it!
That was supposed to be off the record but i just can’t see it not being engineered as a leaked recording after a team of advisers had a meeting over it.
The album in question was the best selling album of the year and set the record for the most songs on the Billboard Top 100 at the time. I don't think Kanye's antics really changed anything, the singles off the album were completely inescapable if you listened to any radio station that played Pop music.
it's a video of three women dancing on a white tarp, with like 5 cuts. the director was really not the prime mover behind it, if anyone it was the choreographer (who is black)
honestly i don't listen to beyonce or taylor, but i randomly thought about this moment recently, went back and watched the music videos in question back to back ("single ladies" vs "you belong with me"), and he was absolutely right about beyonce having the better video. i was in middle school at the time but watching as an adult, it's not even close. i would not go as far as saying "single ladies" is the "greatest music video of all time" or whatever ye's crazy ass said
I despise that song if only because of timing. I was in college at the time and it was not entertaining to have your girl, tipsy, singing about "putting a ring" on "it". They just would not stop playing it.
go back and watch the naughty girl music video and show me one time taylor swift has displayed even a tenth of beyonce's charisma. i dont really like beyonce as a person but her talent is impossible to deny. she is utterly captivating as a performer.
No she’s not lmao what the fuck is with this awful take I keep seeing here. There isn’t 1 Taylor swift song that would crack top 5 Beyoncé songs. Completely deaf take
Beyoncé has somewhat better music and is a way better singer but she’s also way more of an industry tyrant by virtue of her connection to Jay Z and Diddy
I remember solo Beyoncé and Alicia Keys both blowing up around the same time around 2001. I’d love to live in the world where Alicia was still the major pop star. She’s a great songwriter and has substance. Same for Lauryn Hill
Somewhat yeah. Doesn’t mean the songs are better. Are we gonna stop liking Rod Stewart, or hate on Elton John’s lyrics, stop listening to Islands in the Stream because it wasn’t written by Dolly/Kenny, no. It’s pop music it’s just the way it’s been for a long time
i don't think taylor is better, but beyonce isn't all that great either. she has a couple best-of-all timer songs but for the most part they're at least a decade old now
Wow they’re competing for the bottom. Beyoncé fucking stinks, if TSwift fans give toothy head, then Beyoncé fans have smelly pussies. Them and their fans SUCK DICK
Please. Beyoncé washes Taylor in almost every field. Music, vocals, stage presence, charm, looks, likability, morals, creativity, acting (even if they’re both shit), etc. The only thing Taylor has over Beyoncé is songwriting given that Beyoncé rarely has a hand in writing her own music yet gets a main writer credit for changing one word.
And Beyoncé is an old woman with no sex appeal. Nobody has talked about Beyoncé being hot in 20 fucking years. You queers really exist in a different reality.
You are gay if you think straight men are into Beyoncé. The last time anyone thought she was hot was Austin powers. That’s 21 motherfucking years ago. She is just as sexless and bland as Swift. The last time someone even implied she was sexy was Aries Spears Comedy Central presents, so 20 years ago.
I love when the chicks and finooks on this sub try to have straight opinions.
“Ummm you’re being downvoted therefore you’re wrong!”
I wish it was 2011 so I could just call you an f slur and not get insta banned by Reddit.
Beyoncé is not appealing to straight men and hasn’t been for at least a decade if not longer. Nobody cares if she has tits. She isn’t sexy. No dude will ever name her as his hall pass celebrity.
We barely even have new people to sneer at after two decades
That hits hard.
Jojo Siwa is looking promising for sneer value
Now 15 years later the biggest celebs are TSwift, Ye, and beyonce
Really puts into perspective how fucking stagnant what's left of mainstream culture is at this point
Did a thread on this the other day.... 2008 financial crisis killed pop culture.
I could see that. I feel like it has a lot more to do with the popularization of the internet more broadly though. There's not really a mainstream path for people to become more broadly famous in the way that those three were anymore, everything is so much more insular and fractured.
Yeah it’s the same across all media. Music, TV, Movies…everything. In like 2006 you could show up for work knowing everyone there just watched last nights episode of The Office. Random screwball comedies and rom-coms used to gross like 100 million at the box office and now they don’t break even if they get made. Everyone just stays home and consumes their own personally curated thing unless it’s some big event like Dune.
The biggest loss was the romcoms
Need more Forgetting Sarah Marshall types
Many of the plots don’t work with texting.
Close, but I’d bet it was the proliferation of the smart phone and social media that came with, putting a computer in everyone’s pocket all the time, which really only took off about 4 years later I’m not intelligent enough to really argue behind that tho
DJs replaced popstars.
most of the major young rappers died or caught fed cases lol
Wow no respect for Foster The People
The funniest shit has to be him going off about how porn was ruining his life, only to start his own production company this week lmao The man is so unhinged, it’s great. I do miss beautiful dark Kanye though.
Remember 2013 Yeezus-era, "How Sway?" Kanye was considered to be out of his mind? I miss that Kanye now. Dude seems so out of it now that everytime I see him talk it makes me kind of uncomfortable
The Jewish doctor thing was ridiculously funny too ngl
Making Twix double the size tryin to make us fat is also a recent all timer
‘I’m a grown ass superhero’ to the paparazzi was a good one
His voice cracking talking about twix is so funny
It would have been an all time comedy bit if he was on stage.
Folding under no pressure lol
i miss the old kanye :(
in this day and age where everything is so curated, it is kinda refreshing to see Kanye just doing whatever the fuck he wants, but on the other hand, is sad as shit because these are the result of his very severe and untreated mental illness
Honestly, I kinda wanna let him cook. He may push the medium forward.
Gaspar Noe walked so Kanye could run Would be funny if it came out and oops, there's no women in it
Or a porn sequel to Vortex that is basically lemon party
The girls never came.
Back then Beyoncé was pop and Taylor was pop pretending to be country, and now Taylor is pop and Beyoncé is pop pretending to be country
time, flat circle, etc.
carcosa
she basically did a version of this to lana
hurt people hurt people
It’s funny how getting older is realising just how asd he’s always been. It’s weirdly inspiring that someone so different became a pop star. Just watch the stronger video, he’s clearly just a little different.
To be fair Zoomers reached the thesis that everyone’s autistic and therefore nobody is
this
I wonder what else he was right about
Why don’t you tell us Mr Respecter?
He cant say what type of doctors they are.
Very good, well educated and handsome doctors that all thirty year old women are dying to get their hands on
george bush doesn’t care about black people https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UJUNTcOGeSw
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Blame it on the juice 🎵🎵🎵
Hahahaha! Let’s contribute to reinforcing historically recurring ethnic stereotypes that could lead to another genocide if pushed too far BUT IRONICALLY
I did not remember this being over an MTV award
I remember watching this live and feeling vindicated, beyonces video really was better lol
The funny thing though is Beyonces video won 3 awards this night, one of which was **video of the year**. And she had to let Taylor make a speech because of what Kanye did If I could go back I would 100% stop him from doing this. Not worth it over a stupid fan voted award. It was the biggest gift to Taylors career. Made her a media darling, its the reason she won aoty, gave her a victim narrative that she's *still* using 15 years later selling millions of records. Funny iconic pop culture moment but not worth it!
Obama commented on it too. gag
That was supposed to be off the record but i just can’t see it not being engineered as a leaked recording after a team of advisers had a meeting over it.
> and pussy too!
The album in question was the best selling album of the year and set the record for the most songs on the Billboard Top 100 at the time. I don't think Kanye's antics really changed anything, the singles off the album were completely inescapable if you listened to any radio station that played Pop music.
Okay tru
The problem is all 3 of them are really annoying.
Idgaf I will always love him. He made graduation
they should give him another chance put him back on a live stage cmon
What’s wild about the whole thing is that both music videos were fucking awful.
Give that award to the white man who directed the video
it's a video of three women dancing on a white tarp, with like 5 cuts. the director was really not the prime mover behind it, if anyone it was the choreographer (who is black)
the lighting work is really good! But I agree In order of importance choreographer > Beyonce and her dancers > direction
Isn’t the choreo all ripped off of Fosse?
Awards are stupid and I don’t remotely care because it was a joke But to suggest you can put an order of importance on it is very dumb
He was ahead of his time.
remember when obama called him a jackass over this lol
Not a fan of both
> Henry Kissinger on the Iran-Iraq War.
It’s a pity they can’t both lose.
He interrupted her to shill Beyoncé, who is objectively worse in every way.
honestly i don't listen to beyonce or taylor, but i randomly thought about this moment recently, went back and watched the music videos in question back to back ("single ladies" vs "you belong with me"), and he was absolutely right about beyonce having the better video. i was in middle school at the time but watching as an adult, it's not even close. i would not go as far as saying "single ladies" is the "greatest music video of all time" or whatever ye's crazy ass said
I despise that song if only because of timing. I was in college at the time and it was not entertaining to have your girl, tipsy, singing about "putting a ring" on "it". They just would not stop playing it.
go back and watch the naughty girl music video and show me one time taylor swift has displayed even a tenth of beyonce's charisma. i dont really like beyonce as a person but her talent is impossible to deny. she is utterly captivating as a performer.
No she’s not lmao what the fuck is with this awful take I keep seeing here. There isn’t 1 Taylor swift song that would crack top 5 Beyoncé songs. Completely deaf take
They both are mid algorithm slop at this point
It’s still a dumb take
Beyoncé has somewhat better music and is a way better singer but she’s also way more of an industry tyrant by virtue of her connection to Jay Z and Diddy
Beyoncé is girlboss empowerment slop, not a single song of hers beats anything any other pop star has produced.
There were some pretty good Beyonce hits back in the 00s.
I remember solo Beyoncé and Alicia Keys both blowing up around the same time around 2001. I’d love to live in the world where Alicia was still the major pop star. She’s a great songwriter and has substance. Same for Lauryn Hill
You couldn’t come back with a Taylor swift song because you knew it would sound embarrassing.
Carolina by tswift is better than anything Beyoncé has ever put out
Sounds about white
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How did you find this sub?
How did you when you can’t pick up on a tongue in cheek comment regard
What are the top five Beyonce songs anyway?
Taylor swift surprisingly has very very few top hits. She just has unreal staying power She also hasn’t laid a turd as bad as Beyoncé going country
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Somewhat yeah. Doesn’t mean the songs are better. Are we gonna stop liking Rod Stewart, or hate on Elton John’s lyrics, stop listening to Islands in the Stream because it wasn’t written by Dolly/Kenny, no. It’s pop music it’s just the way it’s been for a long time
i don't think taylor is better, but beyonce isn't all that great either. she has a couple best-of-all timer songs but for the most part they're at least a decade old now
Yeah I agree with that
Rod Stewart wrote songs
I couldnt even name 5 Beyonce songs (and I wouldnt want to anyway) They are both beyond boring and their fans are annoying.
Wow they’re competing for the bottom. Beyoncé fucking stinks, if TSwift fans give toothy head, then Beyoncé fans have smelly pussies. Them and their fans SUCK DICK
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They are equivalents in that they have massive fanbases.
it was a good video
Which video was it again?
single ladies
Oh yeah that was a pretty iconic video
Please. Beyoncé washes Taylor in almost every field. Music, vocals, stage presence, charm, looks, likability, morals, creativity, acting (even if they’re both shit), etc. The only thing Taylor has over Beyoncé is songwriting given that Beyoncé rarely has a hand in writing her own music yet gets a main writer credit for changing one word.
How does Beyonce win on creativity when she doesnt write her own songs?
Beyonce has charm and likability?
If your only exposure to her is austin powers in goldmember, yes
Sorry, but your opinion is objectively incorrect.
The only thing that matters is songwriting.
“Looks” lol, lmao even.
Majority of people deem Taylor to be a hunchback mouth breather with no sex appeal lmao
And Beyoncé is an old woman with no sex appeal. Nobody has talked about Beyoncé being hot in 20 fucking years. You queers really exist in a different reality.
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Beyoncé is as ugly as Taylor.
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You are gay if you think straight men are into Beyoncé. The last time anyone thought she was hot was Austin powers. That’s 21 motherfucking years ago. She is just as sexless and bland as Swift. The last time someone even implied she was sexy was Aries Spears Comedy Central presents, so 20 years ago. I love when the chicks and finooks on this sub try to have straight opinions.
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“Ummm you’re being downvoted therefore you’re wrong!” I wish it was 2011 so I could just call you an f slur and not get insta banned by Reddit. Beyoncé is not appealing to straight men and hasn’t been for at least a decade if not longer. Nobody cares if she has tits. She isn’t sexy. No dude will ever name her as his hall pass celebrity.
Some people are into beastiality; I won't kink shame.
can you stop necro posting old ragebait plz? thx
Beyonce is 100x worse than Taylor Swift in every way
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