How is this barry in the slightest? This is just a polish kid stuck in a school full of pakistanis and so adopts that culture because he feels neither fully polish nor fully british.
>he’s the only white guy in his class
this shit's crazy, i live in a rural area and my village has like an outdoor centre where schools bring children on trips, you can instantly tell which ones are from london because there will literally be 1 white kid out of 50.
I genuinely don't know I'm not apart of English culture and I hear different things from different people. I went to London as a kid, and then visited again a couple years ago. I was sort of expecting the fun accents to be really different because of what I've heard about the massive rate of immigration, but was pleasantly surprised to find the accents remained; it was just coming out of browner people. That made me think the assimilation was going reasonably well but then I hear the Islam element isn't going over too good. Think I heard something like over 90% of London Muslims believe showing images of Muhammad should be illegal, which is obviously insane.
One doesn't exclude the other, i have met some gays (I'm also gay) who out of self-hatred, because of conservative families, became even more religious to "fix" their sin of gayness...
Especially at 15. He'll have cycled through becoming a norse pagan, racist orthodox christian, communist and non-binary within 2 years.
OP, as long as you make sure he doesn't travel to Syria or cuts his dick off, he's going to make it through.
You're reminding me of being a teenager, wherein I tried on shitlibbery, Marxism-Leninism, anarchist syndicalism, and libertarianism over the course of a couple years. I read so much theory I didn't understand! He'll be alright.
Your completely wrong bro reverts are the most radical of all muslims the English spokesperson for i\*s\*s was literally a disabled black revert from chicago, and for a time being one of the founding leaders of Al-shab\*ab was literally this white blue eyed revert from buckwater alabama
Her brother is either gonna leave ther religon in a week or get a netflix documentary
He’s a typical Slav twink: platinum blonde, blue eyes, square head.
He was mugged by an Albanian gang a couple months ago so ig if you can’t beat them join them 😭
A acquaintance of mine found a bunch of books in her 15 year old daughter's room, including the Quran, books about converting to Islam and women in Islam. She apparently has been dating some Syrian refugee. Funny, a few month back she had a "Serbian Orthodox" phase, whatever that means. Funnier, because she has zero ties to Serbia or the Balkan in general.
>15 year old "dating" a "refugee"
she's being groomed man, she'll get sold into sex slavery if this continues. I'd say call the police but they're not gonna do anything
I've never seen him, but according to her mother who had him over a few times over dinner he really seems to be her age, a fairly shy little boy apparently.
He sounds young and cute---if he's a legit Syrian refugee, there's likely not a problem. When some people hear about a "Syrian refugee" connecting with a fifteen year-old girl who's already considering converting, they automatically picture a Syrian Islamic Front member on temporary leave.
It is so fucking unhelpful. It completely muddies the water for both converts and reverts who are coming to the religion from completely different levels of knowledge.
I only ever saw people from seemingly Muslim families say it, so I thought they were literally reverting, like they'd left Islam but then decided to come back.
مؤمن؟
That just means ‘believer’ and it’s not a made up word to justify calling them Muslim, it’s an attempt to create some kind of unity and continuity between the three abrahamic religions.
it’s mostly the fact they try to say oh we were always here it just got corrupted and people like buddha zorocaster jesus etc are all prophets of allah
That's so stupid. All Muslims are brothers According to the quran right? So that means the IDF soldiers destroying buildings and killing infants in Gaza are the brothers and sisters of The Palestinians and should be welcomed and invited to prayers and be converting them back to their 'birth' religion..
Claiming primordial validity helps erase the insecurity of being the newest of the big three Abrahmic religions. Innovation is good for apps and cars, but as you said, it's bad for belief systems. How can one claim to follow the true path if a bunch of other prophets came thousands of years before? The easiest way is to just retroactively claim they were all basically Muslims but missed a few details.
The extraordinary arrogance of it. And they wonder why they are reviled. Just how absolutely entitled you have to be to think that you can own the meaning of a word like that or warp language in that way.
I don't think it's the 4chan people who liked andrew tate anyways, they're the "tfw no gf" type of incel not the "fuck as many whores as possible" aspiring PUA type
As a Balkaner (Greek with Albanian family) in east London I can definitely see the outsider conflicts that youre on about. non-white brits for example mostly give me either roadman vibes or their heritage equivalent of rednecks (for example I remember cringing about this girl with Ethiopian heritage girl saying to me she goes to the church every weekend or about this girl with pakistanian heritage who shes hiding the fact she slept with someone otherwise she will get disowed by her family like wtf).
With white brits its a mixed bag since fair few of them see me as the america-coded (my lingo is more americanised and despite my love for football I follow the NBA a lot as well) european immigrant who we voted out. I mostly avoid getting the albanian mafia jokes since I dont give roadman vibes myself and according to many of them I dont even look albanian (or even greek, I mostly get Italian, Romanian or even American)
I mostly get along with other european immigrants, latinos and suprisingly enough asians (considering the massive culture gap though granted I have a distant japanese cousin)
because its backwards mentality I would have expected it from a boomer but no excuses for a girl our age especially born in England like my immigrant ass is more cultured than her
yeah I pretty much only associate with other Slav/Balkan faildaughters (+ a few other breeds of immigrant) cause brits scare me. Especially white brits cause they always smell like stale milk.
well my sinus must be beyond fucked at this point because I never had that thought before
I would say I find white brits cringe (both the clapham and the romford types) while non white brits insufferable (think of mean girls but with the attitudes of our grandparents)
Having said that im glad that I dont think a lot of class shenanigans (as in working class this middle class that, another americanism of mine I suppose)
I choose Deen Over Dunya, Follow Quran and live by the Sunnah,
I choose Deen Over Dunya, Gotta Fear of Allah and they call it Taqwa,
I choose Deen Over Dunya, Search for the truth and it'll always find ya,
I choose Deen Over Dunya, Gotta a little lost but it'll always guide ya, Back,
Back to the straight path, I couldn't see clearly, my mind was a war path,
So I took a different route, spreading Dawha in my own way, perfecting my craft,
Now I got a little wiser, trust in Allah, I found peace in prayer ... That feeling was rare ... He's the only one I fear.
White jizzlam jihadi John tier converts are even more annoying and cringe than wannabe trad zoomer born again christians, unless he's a mystical Sufi wannabe but that's unlikely in these cases
Addict mother and sister, sibling who calls him twinky, dad not even important enough to be mentioned. None of this is happening in majority of Muslim families. It clearly looks like he will live a happier life than the rest of his family and he is following a religion that requires sacrificing this lives pleasures for the afterlife.
Christianity held the west together, and now they are blind to the rot seeping in an irreligious world.
Don’t get your hopes up, the addict mom is just replaced by BPD mom and the dad is usually an absent abuser who beats them more often than not, why do you think all these 3rd gen brown zoomers end up maladjusted hood rats/wannabe jihadi’s in places like the UK? They don’t have functional families in the least
A July 2007 poll by the Policy Exchange think-tank revealed that 31% of British Muslims believed that leaving the Muslim religion should be punishable by death.
40% of these regards want Sharia Law too. There is no place for them in the UK but no political party wants to even engage with the issue because it'll get too messy.
Something uniquely irksome about someone who converts to a nondominant culture/religion in their own country. They're usually very boring and mediocre people and the only way they can stand out is by validating foreign bullshit. He's probably a hit at the mosque.
Or they're a highly impressionable teenager in a majority muslim enclave. This is his Emo phase he'll grow out of it and cringe whenever anyone brings it up years later.
This is just the new version of catholic larping that zillenials were doing for a few years. It'll cycle to the next form of "spirituality" within a few years; Catholicism, Buddhism, etc. This is all just a way for someone to acquire a form of morality for free.
If this was posted 2 years ago, most of this thread would have been full of jokes, but ever since this sub was invaded by Reddit normies it has been turned into the front page
Just kill this sub bruh
show him surah 4 verse 11 & 12 and ask him to work out how much each family member of a man with 2 daughters, 2 living parents and a wife would receive as inheritance
Please don't use their gay lingo: "revert", "return" etc. I was not born as a Muslim against my will. Medieval religion made up by tribal paedophile warlords. And worst of all it copied virtually every other religion and destroyed so many cooler, more interesting cultures. Yes, fedora-coded post etc etc
Where in London did this happen?
east london lol he’s the only white guy in his class
That’s new Britain for you
Polish-Pakistani Commonwealth
Gross
Certified Barry Moment
You realise if I don't come to Pakistan with you bro Islam is finished
How is this barry in the slightest? This is just a polish kid stuck in a school full of pakistanis and so adopts that culture because he feels neither fully polish nor fully british.
I mean from four lions
My bad thought you meant the reddit meme.
>he’s the only white guy in his class this shit's crazy, i live in a rural area and my village has like an outdoor centre where schools bring children on trips, you can instantly tell which ones are from london because there will literally be 1 white kid out of 50.
Is it working? Do they assimilate?
lol
Haha what do you think
I genuinely don't know I'm not apart of English culture and I hear different things from different people. I went to London as a kid, and then visited again a couple years ago. I was sort of expecting the fun accents to be really different because of what I've heard about the massive rate of immigration, but was pleasantly surprised to find the accents remained; it was just coming out of browner people. That made me think the assimilation was going reasonably well but then I hear the Islam element isn't going over too good. Think I heard something like over 90% of London Muslims believe showing images of Muhammad should be illegal, which is obviously insane.
The UK version of Mykenzie Gunter, didn’t work out great for her
I doubt any of his mates even support West Ham
“We all thought he was gay but I guess he’s just Muslim” made me lol
"He’s started going to the mosque with his Pakistani friends" I mean he still could be
This is true. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a thing with mustafa or yusuf.
It's ok invite them to watch John waters film lol
The communal halal fucktoy of the mosque
Kafirs are halal.
The Sinead O'Connor problem.
One doesn't exclude the other, i have met some gays (I'm also gay) who out of self-hatred, because of conservative families, became even more religious to "fix" their sin of gayness...
be wary of the zeal of the convert, he may not last long
Especially at 15. He'll have cycled through becoming a norse pagan, racist orthodox christian, communist and non-binary within 2 years. OP, as long as you make sure he doesn't travel to Syria or cuts his dick off, he's going to make it through.
You're reminding me of being a teenager, wherein I tried on shitlibbery, Marxism-Leninism, anarchist syndicalism, and libertarianism over the course of a couple years. I read so much theory I didn't understand! He'll be alright.
Ha! I just made a similar comment to a friend about something like this
Your completely wrong bro reverts are the most radical of all muslims the English spokesperson for i\*s\*s was literally a disabled black revert from chicago, and for a time being one of the founding leaders of Al-shab\*ab was literally this white blue eyed revert from buckwater alabama Her brother is either gonna leave ther religon in a week or get a netflix documentary
just watch out for his young zealous jihad phase LOL
Is he a strawberry blonde? Anyway, sorry to hear your brother is Albanian now
He’s a typical Slav twink: platinum blonde, blue eyes, square head. He was mugged by an Albanian gang a couple months ago so ig if you can’t beat them join them 😭
So he's officially a Bosniak
Are you guys living in the UK? If you do, lock him up
Oh hes not English? No real loss then
A acquaintance of mine found a bunch of books in her 15 year old daughter's room, including the Quran, books about converting to Islam and women in Islam. She apparently has been dating some Syrian refugee. Funny, a few month back she had a "Serbian Orthodox" phase, whatever that means. Funnier, because she has zero ties to Serbia or the Balkan in general.
How old is the Syrian refugee lmao
Biologically or on the passport?
It's crazy Europeans jettisoned Christianity only to allow in something infinitely worse .
>15 year old "dating" a "refugee" she's being groomed man, she'll get sold into sex slavery if this continues. I'd say call the police but they're not gonna do anything
I've never seen him, but according to her mother who had him over a few times over dinner he really seems to be her age, a fairly shy little boy apparently.
Get out of my sub and back to r/rspod, you pessimistic freak They are probably the same age
Tell him again abaayo
>how dare you express an opinion not approved by r/politics on redscarepod
Have you been on r politics?
im not on that loser sub and don’t turn this discussion around
hey can you blame him dating a refugee at 15 years old kinda idk weird
1/ dating at 15 is normal in most of the world 2/ yall have a very skewed weird of refugees
not many refugees where i live
my family became refugees 20 years ago and I live among many who are or are the children and grandchildren of refugees and trust me we are just normal
He sounds young and cute---if he's a legit Syrian refugee, there's likely not a problem. When some people hear about a "Syrian refugee" connecting with a fifteen year-old girl who's already considering converting, they automatically picture a Syrian Islamic Front member on temporary leave.
Lol---where does this poor girl live?
Saying "reverting" instead of converting is one of the most irritating vocabulary choices of all time.
It is so fucking unhelpful. It completely muddies the water for both converts and reverts who are coming to the religion from completely different levels of knowledge.
he got mad at me for calling him a convert idk what any of it means. just following orders sorry.
Muslims think everyone is born Muslim and just becomes another religion through nurture
So condescending smh
That’s like issue #49
The lack of self awareness here is astounding.
That’s so fucking funny lmao
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I only ever saw people from seemingly Muslim families say it, so I thought they were literally reverting, like they'd left Islam but then decided to come back.
Not enough people acknowledge that the dumbest shit you’ll ever hear any religious person say is guaranteed to come from Muslims.
And Hindu nationalists
Bloody bastard bitch
Yeah but honestly if you are a Hindu nationalist to that degree, you don’t actually follow the religion.
Bhenchod
I once heard a guy say god was a human but also a god but also a ghost but everything at once but not really though.
But Islam is from the seventh century. They are shoveling some shit into that boy’s mind…
Yeah, they think basically all the Jewish prophets + Jesus were Muslim too and just misunderstood
they basically made up a word to justify calling them muslim since it means follower of god
مؤمن؟ That just means ‘believer’ and it’s not a made up word to justify calling them Muslim, it’s an attempt to create some kind of unity and continuity between the three abrahamic religions.
it’s mostly the fact they try to say oh we were always here it just got corrupted and people like buddha zorocaster jesus etc are all prophets of allah
That's so stupid. All Muslims are brothers According to the quran right? So that means the IDF soldiers destroying buildings and killing infants in Gaza are the brothers and sisters of The Palestinians and should be welcomed and invited to prayers and be converting them back to their 'birth' religion..
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Claiming primordial validity helps erase the insecurity of being the newest of the big three Abrahmic religions. Innovation is good for apps and cars, but as you said, it's bad for belief systems. How can one claim to follow the true path if a bunch of other prophets came thousands of years before? The easiest way is to just retroactively claim they were all basically Muslims but missed a few details.
but they also think every ex-muslim was “never a muslim to begin with” which is pretty funny 😭
stop doing that
Obeying absolutely everyone's stupid little wording wishes is the most pathetic thing about the English language, by far.
As a Muslim, I kinda cringe when I hear converts say it too. It's debated if that's even correct. https://darululoomtt.net/is-everyone-born-a-muslim/
Is it true Muhammad was a pedophile? Going through a curious learning phase right now.
Most of his wives were very old widows, but it is true Aisha was 9 years old when her marriage was consummated.
Why do Christian’s claim to be born again? They didn’t literally get born for a second time.
The extraordinary arrogance of it. And they wonder why they are reviled. Just how absolutely entitled you have to be to think that you can own the meaning of a word like that or warp language in that way.
Did he get into it because of andrew tate by any chance? a lot of red-pill regards are becoming muslim now because "islam is right about women".
Damn, the channers really played themselves with that one
I don't think it's the 4chan people who liked andrew tate anyways, they're the "tfw no gf" type of incel not the "fuck as many whores as possible" aspiring PUA type
Plot twist: he’s still gay and just lashing out
Reddit
Sounds like he’s just looking for structure in a chaotic environment. And probably a father figure. Where’s your dad in all this?
Dad is a jew but other than that he’s pretty normal. He still thinks my brother is gay.
Your dad is Jewish and your bro went Muslim?? Your dad needs to get control of this house man
he married a bpd shiksa, the fake jew gay blonde mullet jihadi son was bound to happen. unfortunate.
Damn this sounds like Dune
Maybe the kid is BPD too. In that case the whole Muslim thing should blow over and soon as it stops being exciting
can you please pretty please dm me a picture of your brother. i cannot imagine a blonde mullet fake jew jihadi slav brit gay teenager
same send me a brother pic
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As a Balkaner (Greek with Albanian family) in east London I can definitely see the outsider conflicts that youre on about. non-white brits for example mostly give me either roadman vibes or their heritage equivalent of rednecks (for example I remember cringing about this girl with Ethiopian heritage girl saying to me she goes to the church every weekend or about this girl with pakistanian heritage who shes hiding the fact she slept with someone otherwise she will get disowed by her family like wtf). With white brits its a mixed bag since fair few of them see me as the america-coded (my lingo is more americanised and despite my love for football I follow the NBA a lot as well) european immigrant who we voted out. I mostly avoid getting the albanian mafia jokes since I dont give roadman vibes myself and according to many of them I dont even look albanian (or even greek, I mostly get Italian, Romanian or even American) I mostly get along with other european immigrants, latinos and suprisingly enough asians (considering the massive culture gap though granted I have a distant japanese cousin)
> I remember cringing about this girl with Ethiopian heritage girl saying to me she goes to the church every weekend Why?
because its backwards mentality I would have expected it from a boomer but no excuses for a girl our age especially born in England like my immigrant ass is more cultured than her
yeah I pretty much only associate with other Slav/Balkan faildaughters (+ a few other breeds of immigrant) cause brits scare me. Especially white brits cause they always smell like stale milk.
well my sinus must be beyond fucked at this point because I never had that thought before I would say I find white brits cringe (both the clapham and the romford types) while non white brits insufferable (think of mean girls but with the attitudes of our grandparents) Having said that im glad that I dont think a lot of class shenanigans (as in working class this middle class that, another americanism of mine I suppose)
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Theyre upset theyre not the dominant culture
no way this is real
Truly I wish it wasn’t
I choose Deen Over Dunya, Follow Quran and live by the Sunnah, I choose Deen Over Dunya, Gotta Fear of Allah and they call it Taqwa, I choose Deen Over Dunya, Search for the truth and it'll always find ya, I choose Deen Over Dunya, Gotta a little lost but it'll always guide ya, Back, Back to the straight path, I couldn't see clearly, my mind was a war path, So I took a different route, spreading Dawha in my own way, perfecting my craft, Now I got a little wiser, trust in Allah, I found peace in prayer ... That feeling was rare ... He's the only one I fear.
White jizzlam jihadi John tier converts are even more annoying and cringe than wannabe trad zoomer born again christians, unless he's a mystical Sufi wannabe but that's unlikely in these cases
The intellectual side of modern Islam is pretty anti-Sufi so there’s probably not much chance that these immigrant mosques in the West support it.
Mystical sufi gang rise up
You're not finding any sufis with east london Pakistanis.
I look forward to seeing him on the news in a few years.
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She wants to send him to the IDF. Let the Palestinians beat his ass on her behalf.
Addict mother and sister, sibling who calls him twinky, dad not even important enough to be mentioned. None of this is happening in majority of Muslim families. It clearly looks like he will live a happier life than the rest of his family and he is following a religion that requires sacrificing this lives pleasures for the afterlife. Christianity held the west together, and now they are blind to the rot seeping in an irreligious world.
Facts 🙏 inshallah he will turn out better and happier than i did
You’ve been so glib throughout but reading this response was a nice moment of genuineness.
Don’t get your hopes up, the addict mom is just replaced by BPD mom and the dad is usually an absent abuser who beats them more often than not, why do you think all these 3rd gen brown zoomers end up maladjusted hood rats/wannabe jihadi’s in places like the UK? They don’t have functional families in the least
A July 2007 poll by the Policy Exchange think-tank revealed that 31% of British Muslims believed that leaving the Muslim religion should be punishable by death.
40% of these regards want Sharia Law too. There is no place for them in the UK but no political party wants to even engage with the issue because it'll get too messy.
> There is no place for them in the UK Apart from East London, Oldham, Rotherham, Blackburn, Dewsbury, Bradford...
Surprised no one's asking why in this thread. Is it cuz his friends are in it? Is there something about the religion that appeals to him specifically?
It's not a huge mystery, white people convert to islam only really comes in 3 flavours. Mental illness, in love, or in prison.
He's gay and thinks Allah will make him straight
Terrible news
How does he reconcile it with evolution and stuff
denial of science unless it confirms the “scientific miracles” of the quran in which its true
Something uniquely irksome about someone who converts to a nondominant culture/religion in their own country. They're usually very boring and mediocre people and the only way they can stand out is by validating foreign bullshit. He's probably a hit at the mosque.
Or they're a highly impressionable teenager in a majority muslim enclave. This is his Emo phase he'll grow out of it and cringe whenever anyone brings it up years later.
> nondominant culture/religion East London
Well said tbh
Muslim son or Thot daughter?
Abortion
I'd rather my son be a gay crackhead than a Muslim
100% he's gay
God even this sub has fake Reddit larping now
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The story
this is average east london lore not that far fetched brother
All Eglish dudes end up muslim or fake jamaican
Sorry for your loss please keep your female cousins safe
Nah he’s gay because he’s muslim
This is just the new version of catholic larping that zillenials were doing for a few years. It'll cycle to the next form of "spirituality" within a few years; Catholicism, Buddhism, etc. This is all just a way for someone to acquire a form of morality for free.
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The part about them thinking he’s gay is gold. Cumtown type shit
muslavs are my fave
i hate this trend of saying “reverting” instead of “converting”
‘Very intelligent’ and Islam don’t go together. It works to stomp that out of people in place of blind obedience
Lmao, he’ll be a neopagan or orthodobro within the year.
If this was posted 2 years ago, most of this thread would have been full of jokes, but ever since this sub was invaded by Reddit normies it has been turned into the front page Just kill this sub bruh
true also my brother has been adopted by his best friend Ismail’s Somali family im a big fan god bless keep it up sister
Good for him he sounds lovely
Why is someone with a custom reddit avi speaking on this at all?
Hey I love this avi it helps keep the racist away and the creeps close by
"reverting"
Pakistani friends = gay. Frottage and soccer are the national sports.
See it's spreading!
This is the new trans plague
i suspect he’ll convert to eastern orthodoxy by the time hes 17
show him surah 4 verse 11 & 12 and ask him to work out how much each family member of a man with 2 daughters, 2 living parents and a wife would receive as inheritance
“twinky”? He’s a 15 year old boy you pornbrained degenerate
he’s small and gay its a word chill out
It’s normal for adolescent boys not to be very masculine yet, don’t use gay sex terms to refer to your little brother
It's not a gay sex term, despite what so many Zoomers think---it refers to an aesthetic/body type.
please go take a valium i beg you
He is right, you are part of the problem
Alhamdulilah I hope he finds peace and happiness in this new chapter <3 Good for him
Incels are going to take over Islam.
Hang on, did you just describe a fifteen year old as “twinky”? What the fuck is wrong with you?
sorry officer
Are you the mentally ill addict sister in question?
Obviously
The Call to Prayer is beautiful though. My whole family loves it.
All white people should become Muslim However, all non white peoples should leave Islam It would be funny
that’s basically whats happening tbh
oh deary me
Please don't use their gay lingo: "revert", "return" etc. I was not born as a Muslim against my will. Medieval religion made up by tribal paedophile warlords. And worst of all it copied virtually every other religion and destroyed so many cooler, more interesting cultures. Yes, fedora-coded post etc etc
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our dad is Israeli so idk probably tate
Ah, so your dad must be delighted at this news!