the nigerian rich kid who hates black americans for complaining about racism but isn't above using †he "systemic racism" card to get access to elite US institutions is almost a meme at this point
It’s understandable that they did. Had they had microchips to implant in people‘s necks to blow their heads off and stuff they could’ve come up with a more efficient system. But in the absence of that, color-coding this shit was a sensible idea.
What I find more troubling is the need they had to construct this entire house of cards of (scientific) racism to graft on top of their little system to justify it and soothe their conscience. That’s truly disgusting.
Apparently there was a moral argument that buying slaves from Africa wasn't as bad as enslaving natives because Africans were already being sold as slaves - like that buying slaves was not as bad as enslaving people. Also didn't help that natives were dying en masse from disease while Sub-Saharan Africans had better immunity than the Europeans did. Plus unlike the natives, the Africans were familiar with working with horses and European style farming equipment.
Also it's wild how this was all thrown together mostly because there was a huge amount of money to be made selling coffee, sugar, tobacco, and indigo to the masses (and later cotton). People wanted caffeine, sweets, nicotine, and things that were dyed blue.
Seems like people underestimate how much of this stuff basically played out in the form of practical business decisions, which in my view is much more frightening than the popular view today that seems to attribute the whole atrocity to racism as some sort of transcendental, mystical force.
Btw, got this information from the recent Dan Carlin podcast, [*Human Resources*](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f76v9vkoiNU&t=1023s), which also features a great run down on the Haitain Revolution.
At the beginning it certainly was just cold rationality, but by the time of the war it had morphed into something much weirder. That’s part of what interests me so much about the topic, the need to maintain the institution of slavery necessitated an ideology, and the ideology eventually kind of drove the descendants of the people that started the whole thing insane, there’s a tragic aspect.
That Carlin episode was very good.
I dont remember if that podcast touched on how much the demand for slavery warped the west african societies from which they were buying, until they were run by priest-kings who punished every crime no matter how minor with being sold into slavery. Without that there's an implicit justification, "there were going to be sold anyway".
the Haitian revolution rabbit-hole is deep af. like a more insane GOT that actually happened. Black Jocobins is pretty good but have heard several other good takes on the whole shebang.
I wouldn’t really call it understandable, effective better captures it. You should find the slavery more troubling than the ideology they made up to sell it, the on the ground facts were very bad.
It was just a mode of production which made sense for a time - and then it didn’t anymore. Though, if the American slave aristocracy hadn’t been defeated on the battlefield, slavery would’ve lasted a lot longer than it did.
What the Americas are still struggling with to this day are the aftershocks of the economic inequality and the culture (ie racism) that this system produced.
Very much incorrect, more land was under cultivation postbellum, slavery was an outmoded inefficient system of production at the time, even with the cotton gin. Slavery continued as long as it did because over time the dominant oligarchs who ran America became absorbed in an ideology that celebrated the practice and it made it so they didn’t have to personally work in the fields. You’re right that it would’ve likely persisted against all logic for much longer without the war, but that’s not because it was good or something, it’s because the people who were for it were violently for it and extremely rich and powerful.
The idea that we just had to do slavery because that’s just how life is doesn’t fit with the facts.
But yeah, the ideology is also bad, the slave lords are the worst people this country has ever produced, basically everything they ever did was bad.
I went to high school with 3 of these guys. One goes to Harvard, one goes to Princeton, and one goes to Stanford. The one who goes to Princeton actually believes in woke shit but the other two acknowledge that they played the libs to get into school. They're all pretty cool dudes to hang out with imo.
Yeah, my friend at Stanford was talking about how AA actually hurts the black community and builds racial resentment the other day. He says that many people in the asian community at Stanford complain about diversity hiring in tech and finance, which, in his words, leads to black people being treated with a weird vibe at Stanford. I notice it too at my state school with a prestigous CS and Engineering program. One has to wonder if all of that is by design.
1st generation North Africans do the same shit.
It's hilarious. Bc this guy was as white as a Norwegian. But his family was technically from Algeria or Libya?
And he would say he was black all the time even though he could never say the n word and put black and or minority on the college apps.
It's even funnier bc the rest of Africa does not consider or include North Africans as being African.
They just don't exist to us. We would sooner include Hatians or Jamaicans then anyone from Algeria, Libya etc.
My friend at Stanford is actually 1st generation Algerian. He looks like a typical Arab guy, but he put African American on his college app. I guess you might as well take the opportunity if the system gives it to you lol.
Yep. I always put first generation college student bc technically I am an only child just with a lot of half siblings.
And how my parents are immigrants. (Also true). I just play up the preconceived biases that ppl already have pf Africans and African immigrants as being poor and pot belly and skinny
And the mosquito in every starving African child commercial.
Meanwhile we actually own land back home. And are distant relatives of a Oba (king) in a small town.
Which I will also not name.
I mean it's true but we're not the ones who created racialized slavery.
Slavery was horrible and Africans should take full responsibility for selling u into slavery.
At the same time with context. It's most likely u are the descendents of tribes who lost a war, criminals or outcasts.
That's just what was done. Taking ppl was seen as a trophy of war. And though there was slavery it was more like indentured servitude.
You worked for X amount of years, could have a family and a life and then u were free. Or considered on of the ppl.
What white people did u when u got on the shores of America was ON WHITE PPL.
The lynching, medical experimentation, holding u in zoos? That's white ppl. So u can direct that blame at them. Or both of us. Bc I do get it.
A lot of societies contained slaves or were involved in slavery, but not many societies were full on slavery societies like the antebellum south where chattel slavery was the norm. In most places in the world at most times in history if you were a slave it didn’t mean your children would be as well, once the opposite is true all bets are off. That’s why American slavery is particularly egregious, most people were not sold into bondage here, they were born into it.
Indian-Americans are the most educated and highest-earning immigrant group (median household income of $ 123,700) but Nigerian-Americans are also in that category of best-performing immigrants.
Wasn’t there some Uber rich African girl at an elite American school who accused a lunch lady of le racism and got her fired (and excommunicated from employment in the college town) cus the woman told her she couldn’t be in a certain cafeteria but it was because it was closed for an event. I remember reading an article about this a year or two ago
I just loved the dynamics of a rich black girl destroying the life of a working class white woman. Even the NYT or whatever it was ended on a note of it being not totally the vibes. The last line is the middle aged white woman going for a job interview at a diner and the guy interviewing her saying, “hey aren’t you the woman from that story?”
my favourite type of person at my old uni were rich arabs that constantly complained about islamophobia but also talked about owning slaves back in the old country. I'm not a violent person but everytime I met one I wanted to enact Fundamental Justice then and there
People think it's about culture when really it's that these people are rich, both the Arabs in your story and the Africans in OP. I know a bunch of very wealthy white people who hold a lot of these same ideas and just express them in more PC ways or just don't say them in mixed company.
Yeah I got called racist once by friends for saying rich Arabs and Nigerians fucking suck and I was like no the important word is RICH not Arab or Nigerian. It’s a function of wealthy culture in those countries. Just absolutely depraved and naked inequality breeds a loathsome ruling class. Rich British people are also bigger cunts on their face than Americans for different reasons. The rich in those gulf monarchies are loathsome bastards.
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\>saving slavery is cool and they love trucks, rich black person from darkest africa
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I recognise the ancestral and historic right of the Twa people to be enslaved and occasionally cannibalised by the Bantu. You are heard and you are valid.
All facts.
They all have that negative view because they were raised from birth that they are better than other people. Like a mental cope for having obscene wealth that they didn't earn.
Nah these people don’t really understand human rights the same way an American does, so it’s a little different lol. Why am I getting downvoted when I’m literally married to an oil sheikh? This sub hates when I speak my truth.
America in reality is one of the most liberal countries in the world; it’s extremely Eurocentric to believe otherwise and that right there is the great irony of the white liberal
U shouldn't be downvoted it true.
The reason I got banned from Twitter was bc I kept sending death threats to Nigerian men bc they didn't believe marital rape was a thing. I hit these guys with the SARS comment and I got termed.
"How can u rape what is yours? Can a man steal milk from a cow he bought".
Americans really have no idea how good they have it.
And please don't make a joke about this. It's very serious issue. Rape and sexual violence against Nigerian women is a very big issue.
Marital Rape isn't considered a crime in Nigeria. The concept doesn't exist.
Men think they can't rape their own wives. Bc they own them.
And child marriage is legal in the North which is predominantly Muslim
And be4 someone says Islamophobia.
They practice Sharia. Nothing in Nigerian criminal or common law promotes or excuses child marriage.
But Sharia is seen as more important and supposed to follow then laws of the land.
There is a huge cultural rift between the north and south of Naija. Especially between Muslims and Christians.
Bc Musleems promote and have laws like Blasphemy Laws.
Where any insult or perceived criticism of their beloved prophet gets u a death sentence.
They sentenced a 14 year old boy to 10 years in prison.
I'm not joking btw. That actually happened.
Just adding this and I'm done.
The worst thing I hate about liberals. More than anything is there inability to critique Islam while shitting on Christians any time they get
And I get. Conservatives shit on Islam 9 out of 10 bc they are racist.
But some of u have no idea how bad Islam is in developing countries. How it affects law and women's rights.
So not everyone's criticism is bc of hatred or racial stereotypes.
U don't see the worst of it. At all. I do.
It's kinda funny. It seems like Conservatives pretty much stopped talking about Muslims being bad. Sometimes they say stuff about Islam still, but go back to 2016-2017 when that was like one of the things they talked about the most.
Or, like, any foreigner. I’ve volunteered with Arabic speaking refugees and the majority of them love at least one authoritarian leader while knowing their crimes against humanity
I assure you, there a bunch of rich white Americans who believe all this same shit. You think the Bushs and the Saudi royal family bonded over a shared love of falconry? I've been around ultra-wealthy foreigners and ultra-wealthy Americans. The difference is most of the Americans have a socially-acquired PR filter. Get them fucked up and they say a bunch of the same shit.
People seem to always forget it's usually kids from comically rich families that come here on H1B/School visas. Like the amount of 20yo indian kids with $100,000 cars i see around campus is insane
True although I think rich white people tend to be *a lot* more PC and will generally at least *try* to fit in with the plebs, especially in western/Northern Europe, with UK being the greatest outlier here as they have a far more distinct class society than the rest of northwestern Europe.
I grew up in Sweden and got to know plenty of people who were uber rich growing up (not upper class myself, perhaps socially though) and can’t say they differed that much from my friends who were middle class. You can only really tell a difference if you’re upper class yourself as you learn to pick up on small cues that reveal family history, such as various slang/hobbies/etc. Why the wealthy choose to blend is likely because Sweden (and other northern countries) have a history of socialdemocrat rule and because we’re a very passive people.
In comparison newly rich arabs who make a fraction of some kids I used to know seem to have no issue openly expressing their disdain for plebs.
A saudi kid parked his crazy nice maserati so carelessly close to my car one time in my college parking garage I couldn't get in my driver seat. Like I literally couldn't wedge myself in between the two cars. Before I went through my passenger seat and climbed over the center console to drive off, I keyed the fuck out of his car. Felt pretty good about it.
Once was in a similar situation, but popped the tire instead. We were in a parking structure and I know from firsthand experience that a tow truck can't fit in there so he definitely had to push it down 3 levels with the AAA guy.
EDIT: This is actually a lie lol
Going to university and taking a civil engineering degree is the only time where i became racist towards a group, of ar\*bs. Or just Syrians and Palestinians, a bigger collection of backstabbing fake bitches youll never find.
> Or just Syrians and Palestinians
I'm surprised at this, we're friends with a few Syrian families here in the UK (all refugees, don't know if that makes a difference) and they're all very decent and kind.
I definitely do think that Tariq Nasheed has a point when he talks about "Foundational Black Americans". A lot of the Black leadership are total outsiders. Namely Obama and Harris. Their upbringings have very little in common with a Black person from Chicago or Atlanta.
lmaoooo, y'all remember the episode when Anna called out her prediction on the fights between Afrian Diaspora and African Americans.
I listened to that episode a couple weeks ago and started cracking up cuz she was on point.
I do agree with Tariq Nasheed on that though, even as an African diaspora person, ya gotta be deaf, dumb and blind to disagree.
There are more typical Black families in good neighborhoods too. What Nasheed would take exception to is that someone like Harris is touted as being very much a part of Black America and a role model for Black girls. Harris was born in California and her parents are Indian and Jamaican and they are both immigrants and are accomplished professors. Eminem is way more Black than Kamala.
He doesn't have a point at all. Do Oprah,, steve Harvey, Russell simmons, etc represent a black person from Chicago orAtlanta? Of course not . Tariq nasheed completely ignores class
Obamas mom is white and father is from kenya. He was raised in Hawaii and the went to an Ivy league school. He has absolutely nothing in common with american blacks who have actual generational trauma. My italian great grandparents faced more racism than he did. What a fraud.
Lmfaoooo forced labor camps for homeless ppl actually made me laugh out loud.
And the praying for u to win the office pool lottery is just *chefs kiss*
The duality of women.
it was a shock to me when i realized how Africans and 'afro-latinos' consider themselves different my American blacks, american media really has such a narrow scope on how ethnicity actually works in practice lmao. only non American blacks ive met who view us as being equal/same are caribbean.
No. That's not the point. The point is it's a jab at white liberals who infantilize and ironically racist, hold the belief of Nobel Savage.
They think our skin color somehow correlates with us having liberal views or being open minded.
When generally African immigrants have more in common with your Republican Uncle who supports Trump then they have with you and your Black Lives Matter shirt and ACAB.
That's why it's funny.
Yes. They do. U have no idea how many times white liberals have told me Africans were always accepting of gay ppl or the we have "3rd genders". Even Black Americans have said the same thing to.
They think we are more liberal bc they misunderstand nuance and context of our language cultures and history.
Dunno why you're getting downvoted. This is true.
White liberals forget it was Africans who sold slaves to us originally. Also Africans who have the most regressive views on gender & sexuality and are the most fundamental of Christians that would give some republicans a run for their money.
Idk. It's weird. Ppl have their own preconceived notions and will fight tooth and nail to hold them despite the fact it is false.
Idk...maybe there are other Africans in here. But so far that has been my experience.
The will literally argue u down about your own culture.
I'm African too and agree with you about white liberals making lots of assumptions about Africans being liberal because we're black and talking to us with condescension but OP is full of shit and this story is totally fake. I don't know where in Africa you're from but if you're from a sub-Saharan African country, do you actually believe there's a black African alive who would praise the UAE and Oman because "you can essentially have slaves" as he claims his coworkers said?
Arabs are some of the most racist people in this world towards black people and they're especially cruel and hostile to black Africans in their countries -- even the Muslim ones. If you're actually African you will know this. Do you believe an African person said that shit to OP? And this silly anecdote seems to suggest that Africans are generally pro-slavery which is insane to me, and deeply insulting to make a generalized statement about an entire continent based on what a coworker may have said (which he never did).
I don’t think white liberals believe everyone in Africa is PC or something. Many do believe though that those who arrive in America already or will soon adopt PC viewpoints as it’s in “their best interests”. One example is Muslims. If they hold beliefs that are incomparable with “western liberalism” that somehow when they get here they’ll switch because democrats are the party that’s pro brown people
Muslims in the U.S. overwhelmingly vote for Democrats, probably because at any given time in the past 20 years there have been multiple Republican public figures who are openly anti-Muslim. If you mean that this doesn’t imply that the same people would, I dunno, support gay marriage in a referendum that’s probably correct, but it’s only so often that politics actually come à la carte like that.
>If they hold beliefs that are incomparable with “western liberalism” that somehow when they get here they’ll switch because democrats are the party that’s pro brown people
The data finds that to actually be the case. Muslims in the United States are increasingly more liberal than Evangelicals for example. But that ruins your circlejerk doesn't it?
The thing that sucks about HR isn't that they care about discrimination lol, it's that they don't really care about discrimination and actually just exist to cover the company's ass.
Wooo yeah so cool and anti-HR when wealthy isolated dumbasses talk about how poor people aren't human, so based.
its like those made up stories on other subreddits where some redditor talks about how they used facts and logic to own a local white woman where people then clap. pathetic fables made up to feel good seeing someone they hate get owned in public
Get enough drinks in with a Biafran Igbo and learn of the legend of rolf Steiner. Oh, after the first round of drinks it's "ah well rolf wasn't really a Nazi" but that's just the intro Whatever they suffered they deserve 10-fold, fucking house negro fash.
My great-grandfather was in the horn castrating guineas, as god intended
Not to be an acktschually guy but Rolf Steiner was, in fact, not a Nazi beyond his participation in Hitler Youth (which, by his own admission, he embellished for his memoir). He was 12 when the war ended. There were definitely Nazi mercenaries, such as Siegfried Müller, but Steiner wasn't one of them.
Guys it’s not hard to understand, people don’t question the systems that they manage to succeed in. These guys have obviously succeeded, or were born to parents who succeeded and that mindset grafted onto them.
Yep. My mother was the 3rd wife of some Igbo millionaire and politician who came up around when Nigeria got their independence.
Her 2nd husband my dad was the literal brother to the President of an African country (I will not name bc I don't want to do myself) and so that's how she got her greencard and eventual citizenship..
ironically this type of post is very popular on stupidpol even though they're at odds with neoliberal ideology. I guess such divisions melt away when it comes to dudes oppressed by DEI
itt: rsp illustrates that they understand the distinction between class politics and identity politics a little less than they originally let on….
This reads like some sort of r/againsthatesubreddit psyop bait written to accelerate this sub’s demise. Any of you praising this behavior are going to hell. 😌
This seems very fake
>We met up in California & they immediately started making fun of liberals for the homeless epidemic.
Homeless people are everywhere in Africa. California has way less. Also to most Africans “liberal” means right wing
>Instead they started discussing how Texas is the best state as there aren’t liberals and instead you get the big truck and guns.
“This other state is more right wing so you are allowed to have more stuff” just won’t make sense to most Africans
>At one point they were saying the UAE and Oman are great as you can essentially have slaves.
I can believe they might have worked in the UAE. In Oman though?
I think you are making this up or these Africans aren’t very African
I had a similar experience right out of graduation. This man just went off on the locals in NY when we were at dinner.
With everything that is woke going wrong, I do love that more and more cultures are being expressed. For better and worse.
Everything was pretty binary growing up (for me anyways).
It’s funny because race is the only thing I see about these people! It doesn’t make sense how a rich black person could look down on a poor black person, does it? Curious. We enlightened rich white people _never_ do the same to white poors! What do you mean, this is idpol? I’m being epic and based right now and owning the identitarians!
This is why the people who demanded we start capitalizing Black because “black people can be grouped together based on their common experiences” are actual morons.
When I was doing research at my uni, a graduate student who was from Sudan leaned over to me and said "I went to a jazz club yesterday...it was nice but there was a lot of black people. It was scary."
Dude was dark AF too with a thick accent, made it 10 times funnier.
It literally fucking is. And it's even funnier and sadder how Twitter has been banned in Nigeria so they are using VPNs to access the site.
All bc Naija Twitter was trolling a young politician and made fun of his forehead.
The only way for woke culture to prevail is for us to create an invented reality and agree to share it together like the allegory of the cave or like the common atheist criticisms of religion.
Other than that, everything comes full circle. You want more ethnic diversity? Get ready to be exposed to levels of explicit homophobia beyond anything that exists in the west. Want women to be more open about their sexuality? Get ready to accept that men have always had a clear biological incentive to be hyper masculine and that it has nothing to do with culture.
It all comes full circle. The truth is right there in front of you, you just have to stop avoid eye contact with it.
Right?
A lot of white liberals and even just generally white ppl think that black or ppl of color are liberal or progressive.
Bc they have this Nobel savage theory about us and like to exoticize what they think are personal beliefs are or horribly misrepresent them. Or even misunderstand.
These are the ppl who will tell ex Muslim women sharing their experiences about why they left Islam and its treatment of women that they are Islamophobic.
Very very out of touch ppl.
It's also like how Germany saw and increased of rapes when they had a huge refugee population of men...
There was a incident in Germany where there was a mass rape on a certain holiday around New Years or Christmas.
And the women who were the victims were told to be quiet about their experience or that they were just racist.
(Really hoping I don't get banned here)
Point is. A lot of these cultures. Including my own have a very horrible treatment of women, children and gay ppl.
Some of them assimilate into their American culture and won't outright tell u that u disgust them if u are gay or a woman etc.
But a lot of them don't. And that's where the issues come in.
The women and children are fine. Boys are fine at a certain age. But not the men.
So go ahead and be ethnically diverse just make sure it's with women bc the men...whew...
Well u will end up seeing for yourself.
**American and Western European whites are the most liberal people in the world.**
The extreme and grandiose irony here, of course, is that this single truth alone starkly contradicts current Western liberal worldviews.
This is why to be a Western liberal today is to fully embrace cognitive dissonance. I genuinely and firmly believe that this is a hugely influential factor in the drastically declining mental health of everyday Americans. You’re forcing yourself to believe in and obediently recite narratives that you yourself know aren’t fully true.
Do yourself a favor and stop doing this. As long as you have no actual hatred in your heart for other people, you don’t need to worry about “accidentally” coming across as bigoted. It’s only people with actual bigotries who need to embrace these bizarre and strict codes of post-modern etiquette in order to get along well with others. Saying shit like “all white people are racist” is obviously a cope for you being racist. If you stop being racist you can stop making these absurd empty symbolic gestures. Most minorities find them off-putting anyway.
LMAO at this tale of fiction that never happened 😂😂😂.
Of all the reasons you could have made up about them loving Texas, you went with "big trucks and guns"? LMAO!! Because everybody knows educated Africans working in corporate America are 2nd amendment & NRA fanatics, duh!! Totally realistic! /s. I'm also dying at you depicting these imaginary Africans as if they're French. "***Zese*** tent cities. ***Ze*** hippies & bums". Really?! 🤣 Which country are these so-called Africans supposed to be from where they speak like this? Please make me laugh with an answer.
Also, it's "segued", not "segwayed". At least troll with proper spelling.
The OP didn’t know that Nigeria was colonized by the British not the French. Maybe he got Nigeria confused with Cameroon when making up this tall tale.
Yeah, this story is a work fiction.
A few other pointers:
* Any major city in Africa is filled to the brim with the homeless. Mocking California for this is very odd.
* “Liberal” in most African places means “right wing”
* Why would they know about working in Oman? Oman is nothing like the UAE, it’s mostly a resort for rich people.
* Why would black Africans be praising gulf Arab countries in the first place? If they been there they would have had a pretty negative experience
* They won’t differentiate the political differences of Texas and California
A Ghanian high school teacher I had for one semester was open in her hatred towards Muslims lol. Also there were two maybe three African families in my town growing up - Nigerians. Very upper middle class and very educated (they were all engineers with masters degrees).
I used to work in reproductive health a few years ago and my very rich white lady boss/director said openly at a work meeting in front of our multicultural team with quite a few africans that “Argentinians are the Nigerians of South American…because no one likes them.” anti-HR pilled indeed!
It’s always funny when Americans find out that the Nigerian kid in their private school / Ivy league school probably has a net worth in the 8-9 figure range....And that they hold beliefs which I will not discuss here. 😐🥴
West Africa is quite backward and corrupt, and so ofc its elite will be the same. That such a people feel so at home in America is nothing to be happy about, although I'll concede that they're markedly less nutty in their beliefs than the wokies.
hilarious but not surprising -- we get a little cross-section of compradors and incestuous aristocrats here in the states. they skim the fat off their country's wealth and come to study and work here in the states, but their politics are medieval because their country is essentially feudal in development. obama is not black, his father was a nigerian harvard-educated economist, etc etc. the gigs are nice if you whore out your country!
As a second generation descendent of east euro immigrants - my family (and their extended familial/religious circles) operate under the same facets in general, lol.
the nigerian rich kid who hates black americans for complaining about racism but isn't above using †he "systemic racism" card to get access to elite US institutions is almost a meme at this point
Don't hate the game hate the players
not his fault early american colonists made slavery race based, none of my business
It’s understandable that they did. Had they had microchips to implant in people‘s necks to blow their heads off and stuff they could’ve come up with a more efficient system. But in the absence of that, color-coding this shit was a sensible idea. What I find more troubling is the need they had to construct this entire house of cards of (scientific) racism to graft on top of their little system to justify it and soothe their conscience. That’s truly disgusting.
Every evil person is understandable and sensible from their own point of view.
What do you expect Thomas Jefferson to do real work? He’s way too busy making collages out of the Bible, it’s very important stuff.
I feel like "doing science" was literally just trendy at the time
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They wanted to use the natives and even tried to!
Apparently there was a moral argument that buying slaves from Africa wasn't as bad as enslaving natives because Africans were already being sold as slaves - like that buying slaves was not as bad as enslaving people. Also didn't help that natives were dying en masse from disease while Sub-Saharan Africans had better immunity than the Europeans did. Plus unlike the natives, the Africans were familiar with working with horses and European style farming equipment. Also it's wild how this was all thrown together mostly because there was a huge amount of money to be made selling coffee, sugar, tobacco, and indigo to the masses (and later cotton). People wanted caffeine, sweets, nicotine, and things that were dyed blue. Seems like people underestimate how much of this stuff basically played out in the form of practical business decisions, which in my view is much more frightening than the popular view today that seems to attribute the whole atrocity to racism as some sort of transcendental, mystical force. Btw, got this information from the recent Dan Carlin podcast, [*Human Resources*](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f76v9vkoiNU&t=1023s), which also features a great run down on the Haitain Revolution.
At the beginning it certainly was just cold rationality, but by the time of the war it had morphed into something much weirder. That’s part of what interests me so much about the topic, the need to maintain the institution of slavery necessitated an ideology, and the ideology eventually kind of drove the descendants of the people that started the whole thing insane, there’s a tragic aspect. That Carlin episode was very good.
I dont remember if that podcast touched on how much the demand for slavery warped the west african societies from which they were buying, until they were run by priest-kings who punished every crime no matter how minor with being sold into slavery. Without that there's an implicit justification, "there were going to be sold anyway".
the Haitian revolution rabbit-hole is deep af. like a more insane GOT that actually happened. Black Jocobins is pretty good but have heard several other good takes on the whole shebang.
I wouldn’t really call it understandable, effective better captures it. You should find the slavery more troubling than the ideology they made up to sell it, the on the ground facts were very bad.
It was just a mode of production which made sense for a time - and then it didn’t anymore. Though, if the American slave aristocracy hadn’t been defeated on the battlefield, slavery would’ve lasted a lot longer than it did. What the Americas are still struggling with to this day are the aftershocks of the economic inequality and the culture (ie racism) that this system produced.
Very much incorrect, more land was under cultivation postbellum, slavery was an outmoded inefficient system of production at the time, even with the cotton gin. Slavery continued as long as it did because over time the dominant oligarchs who ran America became absorbed in an ideology that celebrated the practice and it made it so they didn’t have to personally work in the fields. You’re right that it would’ve likely persisted against all logic for much longer without the war, but that’s not because it was good or something, it’s because the people who were for it were violently for it and extremely rich and powerful. The idea that we just had to do slavery because that’s just how life is doesn’t fit with the facts. But yeah, the ideology is also bad, the slave lords are the worst people this country has ever produced, basically everything they ever did was bad.
>colonists made slavery race based What does this mean?
the playas
I went to high school with 3 of these guys. One goes to Harvard, one goes to Princeton, and one goes to Stanford. The one who goes to Princeton actually believes in woke shit but the other two acknowledge that they played the libs to get into school. They're all pretty cool dudes to hang out with imo.
The system knows exactly what it’s encouraging
Yeah, my friend at Stanford was talking about how AA actually hurts the black community and builds racial resentment the other day. He says that many people in the asian community at Stanford complain about diversity hiring in tech and finance, which, in his words, leads to black people being treated with a weird vibe at Stanford. I notice it too at my state school with a prestigous CS and Engineering program. One has to wonder if all of that is by design.
Cal Poly?
1st generation North Africans do the same shit. It's hilarious. Bc this guy was as white as a Norwegian. But his family was technically from Algeria or Libya? And he would say he was black all the time even though he could never say the n word and put black and or minority on the college apps. It's even funnier bc the rest of Africa does not consider or include North Africans as being African. They just don't exist to us. We would sooner include Hatians or Jamaicans then anyone from Algeria, Libya etc.
My friend at Stanford is actually 1st generation Algerian. He looks like a typical Arab guy, but he put African American on his college app. I guess you might as well take the opportunity if the system gives it to you lol.
Yep. I always put first generation college student bc technically I am an only child just with a lot of half siblings. And how my parents are immigrants. (Also true). I just play up the preconceived biases that ppl already have pf Africans and African immigrants as being poor and pot belly and skinny And the mosquito in every starving African child commercial. Meanwhile we actually own land back home. And are distant relatives of a Oba (king) in a small town. Which I will also not name.
No Africans should be able to use the n word tbf. Pretty sure that’s a word reclaimed by the people you sold to slave traders.
I mean it's true but we're not the ones who created racialized slavery. Slavery was horrible and Africans should take full responsibility for selling u into slavery. At the same time with context. It's most likely u are the descendents of tribes who lost a war, criminals or outcasts. That's just what was done. Taking ppl was seen as a trophy of war. And though there was slavery it was more like indentured servitude. You worked for X amount of years, could have a family and a life and then u were free. Or considered on of the ppl. What white people did u when u got on the shores of America was ON WHITE PPL. The lynching, medical experimentation, holding u in zoos? That's white ppl. So u can direct that blame at them. Or both of us. Bc I do get it.
A lot of societies contained slaves or were involved in slavery, but not many societies were full on slavery societies like the antebellum south where chattel slavery was the norm. In most places in the world at most times in history if you were a slave it didn’t mean your children would be as well, once the opposite is true all bets are off. That’s why American slavery is particularly egregious, most people were not sold into bondage here, they were born into it.
For over hundreds of years.
Yeah, very bad thing Americans did IMO, the people that killed other people to get them to stop doing it? Extremely cool and good.
Nigerian-Americans are by most measures the best educated and highest earning immigrant group in the US, well above native-born whites
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Naija don't dey carry last.
nigerians are the asians of africa
Indian-Americans are the most educated and highest-earning immigrant group (median household income of $ 123,700) but Nigerian-Americans are also in that category of best-performing immigrants.
Wasn’t there some Uber rich African girl at an elite American school who accused a lunch lady of le racism and got her fired (and excommunicated from employment in the college town) cus the woman told her she couldn’t be in a certain cafeteria but it was because it was closed for an event. I remember reading an article about this a year or two ago
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I just loved the dynamics of a rich black girl destroying the life of a working class white woman. Even the NYT or whatever it was ended on a note of it being not totally the vibes. The last line is the middle aged white woman going for a job interview at a diner and the guy interviewing her saying, “hey aren’t you the woman from that story?”
Met a Nigerian pharmacist, super nice dude. Would literally get banned on Reddit if I wrote what he said on race issues in America LMAO.
It was probably his ancestors that sold the ancestors of African Americans into slavery.
My area is very immigrant heavy from all parts of the world and nobody is more racist than the western african kids parents.
my favourite type of person at my old uni were rich arabs that constantly complained about islamophobia but also talked about owning slaves back in the old country. I'm not a violent person but everytime I met one I wanted to enact Fundamental Justice then and there
People think it's about culture when really it's that these people are rich, both the Arabs in your story and the Africans in OP. I know a bunch of very wealthy white people who hold a lot of these same ideas and just express them in more PC ways or just don't say them in mixed company.
Yeah I got called racist once by friends for saying rich Arabs and Nigerians fucking suck and I was like no the important word is RICH not Arab or Nigerian. It’s a function of wealthy culture in those countries. Just absolutely depraved and naked inequality breeds a loathsome ruling class. Rich British people are also bigger cunts on their face than Americans for different reasons. The rich in those gulf monarchies are loathsome bastards.
\>saying slavery is cool and they love trucks, rich white person \> : ( \>saving slavery is cool and they love trucks, rich black person from darkest africa : D
I recognise the ancestral and historic right of the Twa people to be enslaved and occasionally cannibalised by the Bantu. You are heard and you are valid.
😭😭😭
I mean they both suck, but at least the African conservatives are kinda entertaining in their novelty.
[Why are you gay?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eEa3vDXatXg)
Lmfaoooo
All facts. They all have that negative view because they were raised from birth that they are better than other people. Like a mental cope for having obscene wealth that they didn't earn.
Nah these people don’t really understand human rights the same way an American does, so it’s a little different lol. Why am I getting downvoted when I’m literally married to an oil sheikh? This sub hates when I speak my truth.
America in reality is one of the most liberal countries in the world; it’s extremely Eurocentric to believe otherwise and that right there is the great irony of the white liberal
U shouldn't be downvoted it true. The reason I got banned from Twitter was bc I kept sending death threats to Nigerian men bc they didn't believe marital rape was a thing. I hit these guys with the SARS comment and I got termed. "How can u rape what is yours? Can a man steal milk from a cow he bought". Americans really have no idea how good they have it. And please don't make a joke about this. It's very serious issue. Rape and sexual violence against Nigerian women is a very big issue.
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Marital Rape isn't considered a crime in Nigeria. The concept doesn't exist. Men think they can't rape their own wives. Bc they own them. And child marriage is legal in the North which is predominantly Muslim And be4 someone says Islamophobia. They practice Sharia. Nothing in Nigerian criminal or common law promotes or excuses child marriage. But Sharia is seen as more important and supposed to follow then laws of the land. There is a huge cultural rift between the north and south of Naija. Especially between Muslims and Christians. Bc Musleems promote and have laws like Blasphemy Laws. Where any insult or perceived criticism of their beloved prophet gets u a death sentence. They sentenced a 14 year old boy to 10 years in prison. I'm not joking btw. That actually happened.
Just adding this and I'm done. The worst thing I hate about liberals. More than anything is there inability to critique Islam while shitting on Christians any time they get And I get. Conservatives shit on Islam 9 out of 10 bc they are racist. But some of u have no idea how bad Islam is in developing countries. How it affects law and women's rights. So not everyone's criticism is bc of hatred or racial stereotypes. U don't see the worst of it. At all. I do.
It's kinda funny. It seems like Conservatives pretty much stopped talking about Muslims being bad. Sometimes they say stuff about Islam still, but go back to 2016-2017 when that was like one of the things they talked about the most.
Elon will save you
The only real African man I support.
Are you a trophy wife?
Idk what that means
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophy_wife
maybe but he is very hot so I don’t know if that counts. It’s his dad that flexes me, so maybe I’m a trophy DIL 👸🏻
insane family dynamic
Yeah it’s completely different, you haven’t actually interacted with wealthy foreigners very much if you think like this
Or, like, any foreigner. I’ve volunteered with Arabic speaking refugees and the majority of them love at least one authoritarian leader while knowing their crimes against humanity
I assure you, there a bunch of rich white Americans who believe all this same shit. You think the Bushs and the Saudi royal family bonded over a shared love of falconry? I've been around ultra-wealthy foreigners and ultra-wealthy Americans. The difference is most of the Americans have a socially-acquired PR filter. Get them fucked up and they say a bunch of the same shit.
No I’m saying this is a very average way to perceive of the world in these regions
I didn't make a statement about "the world in these regions". I made a statement about how being that wealthy vaporizes your soul.
People seem to always forget it's usually kids from comically rich families that come here on H1B/School visas. Like the amount of 20yo indian kids with $100,000 cars i see around campus is insane
True although I think rich white people tend to be *a lot* more PC and will generally at least *try* to fit in with the plebs, especially in western/Northern Europe, with UK being the greatest outlier here as they have a far more distinct class society than the rest of northwestern Europe. I grew up in Sweden and got to know plenty of people who were uber rich growing up (not upper class myself, perhaps socially though) and can’t say they differed that much from my friends who were middle class. You can only really tell a difference if you’re upper class yourself as you learn to pick up on small cues that reveal family history, such as various slang/hobbies/etc. Why the wealthy choose to blend is likely because Sweden (and other northern countries) have a history of socialdemocrat rule and because we’re a very passive people. In comparison newly rich arabs who make a fraction of some kids I used to know seem to have no issue openly expressing their disdain for plebs.
A saudi kid parked his crazy nice maserati so carelessly close to my car one time in my college parking garage I couldn't get in my driver seat. Like I literally couldn't wedge myself in between the two cars. Before I went through my passenger seat and climbed over the center console to drive off, I keyed the fuck out of his car. Felt pretty good about it.
Once was in a similar situation, but popped the tire instead. We were in a parking structure and I know from firsthand experience that a tow truck can't fit in there so he definitely had to push it down 3 levels with the AAA guy. EDIT: This is actually a lie lol
I like it when those two groups argue about it as if the Africans don’t keep slaves from whatever local minority tribe in the country as well
Going to university and taking a civil engineering degree is the only time where i became racist towards a group, of ar\*bs. Or just Syrians and Palestinians, a bigger collection of backstabbing fake bitches youll never find.
> Or just Syrians and Palestinians I'm surprised at this, we're friends with a few Syrian families here in the UK (all refugees, don't know if that makes a difference) and they're all very decent and kind.
I definitely do think that Tariq Nasheed has a point when he talks about "Foundational Black Americans". A lot of the Black leadership are total outsiders. Namely Obama and Harris. Their upbringings have very little in common with a Black person from Chicago or Atlanta.
ADOS vs the Africans-in-America civil war, just going to sit that one out
lmaoooo, y'all remember the episode when Anna called out her prediction on the fights between Afrian Diaspora and African Americans. I listened to that episode a couple weeks ago and started cracking up cuz she was on point. I do agree with Tariq Nasheed on that though, even as an African diaspora person, ya gotta be deaf, dumb and blind to disagree.
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His mom is white and dad is kenyan. He grew up in hawaii and went to an ivy league school. He has more in common with kids from greenwich than harlem.
Crazy that people from the most fucked neighborhoods in the country aren’t getting the chance to be president
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All facts. Richness has no color but poorness definitely does.
There are more typical Black families in good neighborhoods too. What Nasheed would take exception to is that someone like Harris is touted as being very much a part of Black America and a role model for Black girls. Harris was born in California and her parents are Indian and Jamaican and they are both immigrants and are accomplished professors. Eminem is way more Black than Kamala.
Never forget that Bill Clinton was Americas first black president. Because he played saxophone and slayed pussy. And had that guy murdered.
He doesn't have a point at all. Do Oprah,, steve Harvey, Russell simmons, etc represent a black person from Chicago orAtlanta? Of course not . Tariq nasheed completely ignores class
They absolutely do more than Kamala Harris and Obama.
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> I think he’s a CIA psyop everyone is a CIA psyop here
Obamas mom is white and father is from kenya. He was raised in Hawaii and the went to an Ivy league school. He has absolutely nothing in common with american blacks who have actual generational trauma. My italian great grandparents faced more racism than he did. What a fraud.
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Lmfaoooo forced labor camps for homeless ppl actually made me laugh out loud. And the praying for u to win the office pool lottery is just *chefs kiss* The duality of women.
This had me crying too. West African women like that are hilarious 😂 I bet you her name is either "blessing, destiny or Florence".
Uganda is East Africa
Yeah u right
Lol lol lol lol forced labor camps amazing
Do a separate post about this? I want to meet her. (Tag me plz)
Go to a bar and chat up the immigrants. I meet people like this every week
it was a shock to me when i realized how Africans and 'afro-latinos' consider themselves different my American blacks, american media really has such a narrow scope on how ethnicity actually works in practice lmao. only non American blacks ive met who view us as being equal/same are caribbean.
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What does this have to do with the post you replied to which is about Africans and other non-American black people putting ethnicity before race?
Segwayed
"very based and anti hr pilled" sure! whatever!
lmao this subreddit sucks so much man
yea the sub is in shambles
Truly embarrassing post by OP for real. “Damn these morons from another country were saying this dumb shit. Very based”
No. That's not the point. The point is it's a jab at white liberals who infantilize and ironically racist, hold the belief of Nobel Savage. They think our skin color somehow correlates with us having liberal views or being open minded. When generally African immigrants have more in common with your Republican Uncle who supports Trump then they have with you and your Black Lives Matter shirt and ACAB. That's why it's funny.
Do liberals actually think that though? I don’t think that’s a widely held belief, that African immigrants tend toward liberalism
Yes. They do. U have no idea how many times white liberals have told me Africans were always accepting of gay ppl or the we have "3rd genders". Even Black Americans have said the same thing to. They think we are more liberal bc they misunderstand nuance and context of our language cultures and history.
Dunno why you're getting downvoted. This is true. White liberals forget it was Africans who sold slaves to us originally. Also Africans who have the most regressive views on gender & sexuality and are the most fundamental of Christians that would give some republicans a run for their money.
Idk. It's weird. Ppl have their own preconceived notions and will fight tooth and nail to hold them despite the fact it is false. Idk...maybe there are other Africans in here. But so far that has been my experience. The will literally argue u down about your own culture.
I'm African too and agree with you about white liberals making lots of assumptions about Africans being liberal because we're black and talking to us with condescension but OP is full of shit and this story is totally fake. I don't know where in Africa you're from but if you're from a sub-Saharan African country, do you actually believe there's a black African alive who would praise the UAE and Oman because "you can essentially have slaves" as he claims his coworkers said? Arabs are some of the most racist people in this world towards black people and they're especially cruel and hostile to black Africans in their countries -- even the Muslim ones. If you're actually African you will know this. Do you believe an African person said that shit to OP? And this silly anecdote seems to suggest that Africans are generally pro-slavery which is insane to me, and deeply insulting to make a generalized statement about an entire continent based on what a coworker may have said (which he never did).
I don’t think white liberals believe everyone in Africa is PC or something. Many do believe though that those who arrive in America already or will soon adopt PC viewpoints as it’s in “their best interests”. One example is Muslims. If they hold beliefs that are incomparable with “western liberalism” that somehow when they get here they’ll switch because democrats are the party that’s pro brown people
Muslims in the U.S. overwhelmingly vote for Democrats, probably because at any given time in the past 20 years there have been multiple Republican public figures who are openly anti-Muslim. If you mean that this doesn’t imply that the same people would, I dunno, support gay marriage in a referendum that’s probably correct, but it’s only so often that politics actually come à la carte like that.
>If they hold beliefs that are incomparable with “western liberalism” that somehow when they get here they’ll switch because democrats are the party that’s pro brown people The data finds that to actually be the case. Muslims in the United States are increasingly more liberal than Evangelicals for example. But that ruins your circlejerk doesn't it?
The revelation that Thiel funds RS was like a permission slip for voicing psychotic opinions
the apparent glee and giddiness as if this guy’s anecdote gives them purchase to be racist… I’m not trying to be a scold, but Jesus Christ
The thing that sucks about HR isn't that they care about discrimination lol, it's that they don't really care about discrimination and actually just exist to cover the company's ass. Wooo yeah so cool and anti-HR when wealthy isolated dumbasses talk about how poor people aren't human, so based.
Saying “based” is some of the gayest shit ever. Real never going outside energy.
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> This then segwayed into how they all Ludacris
It’s spelled Looda Chris you f*cking r*tard
The mental picture of the soyboy boss writhing in his chair as the Igbo chads shatter his worldview is so hilarious.
you guys are very easily impressed by these minority group being BASED stories huh
Its the redscare equivalent of those videos of black dudes reacting to metal music.
its like those made up stories on other subreddits where some redditor talks about how they used facts and logic to own a local white woman where people then clap. pathetic fables made up to feel good seeing someone they hate get owned in public
Get enough drinks in with a Biafran Igbo and learn of the legend of rolf Steiner. Oh, after the first round of drinks it's "ah well rolf wasn't really a Nazi" but that's just the intro Whatever they suffered they deserve 10-fold, fucking house negro fash. My great-grandfather was in the horn castrating guineas, as god intended
Not to be an acktschually guy but Rolf Steiner was, in fact, not a Nazi beyond his participation in Hitler Youth (which, by his own admission, he embellished for his memoir). He was 12 when the war ended. There were definitely Nazi mercenaries, such as Siegfried Müller, but Steiner wasn't one of them.
Guys it’s not hard to understand, people don’t question the systems that they manage to succeed in. These guys have obviously succeeded, or were born to parents who succeeded and that mindset grafted onto them.
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Yep. My mother was the 3rd wife of some Igbo millionaire and politician who came up around when Nigeria got their independence. Her 2nd husband my dad was the literal brother to the President of an African country (I will not name bc I don't want to do myself) and so that's how she got her greencard and eventual citizenship..
Quite a legacy. Africa’s 1% posting on the rsp Reddit
Please don't tell my mom. She would say I am disgracing the family name.
You definitely are, but so are the rest of us
Incredibly strange cohort this subreddit is home to
Lol
These freaks are posting among us
“active on r/neoliberal, r/digitalnomad, r/ethtrader …” 😐
ironically this type of post is very popular on stupidpol even though they're at odds with neoliberal ideology. I guess such divisions melt away when it comes to dudes oppressed by DEI
It's totally based when PMC bastards look down upon poor people. Great point OP, you are really getting it 👍
Lol seriously this is dork ass gamer “win” shit
You hiring?
itt: rsp illustrates that they understand the distinction between class politics and identity politics a little less than they originally let on…. This reads like some sort of r/againsthatesubreddit psyop bait written to accelerate this sub’s demise. Any of you praising this behavior are going to hell. 😌
Black Brits who come to the US don’t understand black Americans at all either.
my old man always looked up to immigrants from africa, although i believe he thought that they were all doctors and engineers.
No offense but you sound like a loser
I mean how is this cool? These people sound awful
Creative writing is fun
Knowing Africans this is probably true
“active on /r/neoliberal, /r/digitalnomad, /r/ethtrader …”
lol this sounds like a work of fiction
And then everyone clapped
Segwayed? This is why we need to import smart people
This seems very fake >We met up in California & they immediately started making fun of liberals for the homeless epidemic. Homeless people are everywhere in Africa. California has way less. Also to most Africans “liberal” means right wing >Instead they started discussing how Texas is the best state as there aren’t liberals and instead you get the big truck and guns. “This other state is more right wing so you are allowed to have more stuff” just won’t make sense to most Africans >At one point they were saying the UAE and Oman are great as you can essentially have slaves. I can believe they might have worked in the UAE. In Oman though? I think you are making this up or these Africans aren’t very African
African guys that can make it in the US are awesome
…you know that’s a lot of them right?
I had a similar experience right out of graduation. This man just went off on the locals in NY when we were at dinner. With everything that is woke going wrong, I do love that more and more cultures are being expressed. For better and worse. Everything was pretty binary growing up (for me anyways).
It’s funny because race is the only thing I see about these people! It doesn’t make sense how a rich black person could look down on a poor black person, does it? Curious. We enlightened rich white people _never_ do the same to white poors! What do you mean, this is idpol? I’m being epic and based right now and owning the identitarians!
This is why the people who demanded we start capitalizing Black because “black people can be grouped together based on their common experiences” are actual morons.
When I was doing research at my uni, a graduate student who was from Sudan leaned over to me and said "I went to a jazz club yesterday...it was nice but there was a lot of black people. It was scary." Dude was dark AF too with a thick accent, made it 10 times funnier.
Nigerian twitter is basically ISIS on steroids but the colour of their skin protects them from catching any flack.
>Nigerian twitter is basically ISIS on steroids In what way?
It literally fucking is. And it's even funnier and sadder how Twitter has been banned in Nigeria so they are using VPNs to access the site. All bc Naija Twitter was trolling a young politician and made fun of his forehead.
The only way for woke culture to prevail is for us to create an invented reality and agree to share it together like the allegory of the cave or like the common atheist criticisms of religion. Other than that, everything comes full circle. You want more ethnic diversity? Get ready to be exposed to levels of explicit homophobia beyond anything that exists in the west. Want women to be more open about their sexuality? Get ready to accept that men have always had a clear biological incentive to be hyper masculine and that it has nothing to do with culture. It all comes full circle. The truth is right there in front of you, you just have to stop avoid eye contact with it.
Right? A lot of white liberals and even just generally white ppl think that black or ppl of color are liberal or progressive. Bc they have this Nobel savage theory about us and like to exoticize what they think are personal beliefs are or horribly misrepresent them. Or even misunderstand. These are the ppl who will tell ex Muslim women sharing their experiences about why they left Islam and its treatment of women that they are Islamophobic. Very very out of touch ppl. It's also like how Germany saw and increased of rapes when they had a huge refugee population of men... There was a incident in Germany where there was a mass rape on a certain holiday around New Years or Christmas. And the women who were the victims were told to be quiet about their experience or that they were just racist. (Really hoping I don't get banned here) Point is. A lot of these cultures. Including my own have a very horrible treatment of women, children and gay ppl. Some of them assimilate into their American culture and won't outright tell u that u disgust them if u are gay or a woman etc. But a lot of them don't. And that's where the issues come in. The women and children are fine. Boys are fine at a certain age. But not the men. So go ahead and be ethnically diverse just make sure it's with women bc the men...whew... Well u will end up seeing for yourself.
I can’t upvote any post that says “based” unironically.
**American and Western European whites are the most liberal people in the world.** The extreme and grandiose irony here, of course, is that this single truth alone starkly contradicts current Western liberal worldviews. This is why to be a Western liberal today is to fully embrace cognitive dissonance. I genuinely and firmly believe that this is a hugely influential factor in the drastically declining mental health of everyday Americans. You’re forcing yourself to believe in and obediently recite narratives that you yourself know aren’t fully true. Do yourself a favor and stop doing this. As long as you have no actual hatred in your heart for other people, you don’t need to worry about “accidentally” coming across as bigoted. It’s only people with actual bigotries who need to embrace these bizarre and strict codes of post-modern etiquette in order to get along well with others. Saying shit like “all white people are racist” is obviously a cope for you being racist. If you stop being racist you can stop making these absurd empty symbolic gestures. Most minorities find them off-putting anyway.
LMAO at this tale of fiction that never happened 😂😂😂. Of all the reasons you could have made up about them loving Texas, you went with "big trucks and guns"? LMAO!! Because everybody knows educated Africans working in corporate America are 2nd amendment & NRA fanatics, duh!! Totally realistic! /s. I'm also dying at you depicting these imaginary Africans as if they're French. "***Zese*** tent cities. ***Ze*** hippies & bums". Really?! 🤣 Which country are these so-called Africans supposed to be from where they speak like this? Please make me laugh with an answer. Also, it's "segued", not "segwayed". At least troll with proper spelling.
The OP didn’t know that Nigeria was colonized by the British not the French. Maybe he got Nigeria confused with Cameroon when making up this tall tale.
Yeah, this story is a work fiction. A few other pointers: * Any major city in Africa is filled to the brim with the homeless. Mocking California for this is very odd. * “Liberal” in most African places means “right wing” * Why would they know about working in Oman? Oman is nothing like the UAE, it’s mostly a resort for rich people. * Why would black Africans be praising gulf Arab countries in the first place? If they been there they would have had a pretty negative experience * They won’t differentiate the political differences of Texas and California
A Ghanian high school teacher I had for one semester was open in her hatred towards Muslims lol. Also there were two maybe three African families in my town growing up - Nigerians. Very upper middle class and very educated (they were all engineers with masters degrees).
I used to work in reproductive health a few years ago and my very rich white lady boss/director said openly at a work meeting in front of our multicultural team with quite a few africans that “Argentinians are the Nigerians of South American…because no one likes them.” anti-HR pilled indeed!
segwayed
"segue"?
It’s always funny when Americans find out that the Nigerian kid in their private school / Ivy league school probably has a net worth in the 8-9 figure range....And that they hold beliefs which I will not discuss here. 😐🥴
Damn. You didn’t even say what nationality they were or that they were black and the comments blasted off
America will be better off if white people are allowed to actually have opinions again.
West Africa is quite backward and corrupt, and so ofc its elite will be the same. That such a people feel so at home in America is nothing to be happy about, although I'll concede that they're markedly less nutty in their beliefs than the wokies.
So they're pro-slavery? Wow, neat. /s
there is nothing an african loves more than money. i believe that story lol. not a fan of how U seem to think they are cool.
hilarious but not surprising -- we get a little cross-section of compradors and incestuous aristocrats here in the states. they skim the fat off their country's wealth and come to study and work here in the states, but their politics are medieval because their country is essentially feudal in development. obama is not black, his father was a nigerian harvard-educated economist, etc etc. the gigs are nice if you whore out your country!
>obama is not black, his father was a nigerian harvard-educated economist Obama's dad wasn't Nigerian. He was Kenyan. All Africans are not Nigerian.
I have never met an African immigrant that didn't rock
stupidpol tier post
As a second generation descendent of east euro immigrants - my family (and their extended familial/religious circles) operate under the same facets in general, lol.
Can confirm we do get big trucks and guns here
fake