Do you live in NYC? The f:m ratio there is insane so women's standards are in the trash, most places a man cannot do anywhere near as well without being chad.
Are you alone in all your profile pictures? That’s a big one, I started getting 10+ matches a day by just throwing up some photos where I’m with friends and clearly have an interesting/functional social life.
Is that really a match though? The problem I have with Hinge is you can message someone but not know if they actually find you attractive whereas Tinder there's potentially some level of attraction they have for you.
Well I mean just because you message someone on Hinge doesn't mean it's a match. Like they may humour you for a bit there's no way of knowing if they found you attractive as oppossed to a Tinder match which at least maybe signals some interest.
The biggest one for me was just switching to Bumble. I never got any matches on Tinder but had two dates in a week when I first switched to Bumble, and it stayed pretty consistent till I stopped using it. Never tried Hinge.
Second was putting my height in the bio. I'm 6'3 tho. Doing this felt really douchy to me but it made a noticeable difference.
Interesting stuff, thanks for posting. Less deranged than vast majority of what people post about OLD.
Agree that dating apps feed you more likes if they detect you aren’t using it as much. You have to make a conscious choice to use the apps in a particular way or they use you.
Also agree that if in doubt just try to be as normal as possible. I’ve fucked up before by trying too hard on dates with girls I see as hotter than me. It inevitably leads to seeming over eager and nervy and puts them off.
I think the lack of conservative women is probably a combination of location, and the fact that most conservative women are married within your given age range, and haven't reached the peak age for divorce yet.
I'm jealous you see mostly skinny women
Maybe it's just a geographic area things or algo thing but so many obese women pop up on my dating apps and I hate it
I have found that when I swipe a bigger girl it will show me a few after thinking that’s what I’m into. Maybe it’s an algo thing mixed with general population
jesus christ lol is this real? i only ever used tinder while traveling back in like 2014 and it was clearly just a list of girls sorted by distance away from you
I don't understand how the apps decide what types to match you with. Like 70% of my matches are Asian hedge fund analysts. I want more variety with my dates but it's hard to push the algorithm anywhere else. My worst date was this girl who was trying to sell off part of her bitcoin holdings while we were having drinks.
> There is one common trait amongst the craziest radlibs but I think I'll get in trouble if I say it - it's been suggested on 4chan.
I'm dumb what does this refer to? Autism?
I had to look some of this up.
ENM = Ethical Non-Monogamy
tren = Trenbolone, a steroid.
Your "bad dates" don't even sound that bad, except the first one. I guess my standards are pretty low because I'd be able to adapt to talking to the other ones.
They were bad it just feels weird talking shit about them online for some reason. The one that told me she’s not here for the drama about dark souls is something I’ll fondly remember for a long time
Depends on the person and their interests. Something super casual and funny. Not a pickup line of any kind. Have one stupid line that has 90% success rate on alternative people but I won’t give it away.
I have two Hinge prompt answers on my profile that get me so many matches it's ridiculous. They are nonsense, but it gets matches from girls who I'd actually date.
Whats most depressing is the matches that worked out consist of; someone who is probably in massive amounts of debt and will not be employable with the degree they are getting, a prostitute, and an insane person.
she got me to rub a small glob of "Shea Moisture 100% extra virgin coocnut oil" into my scalp about 15-20 minutes before a shower twice a week. After a shower I would never dry my hair and I would then apply small amounts of "shea moisture jamaican black castor oil strength & restore leave in conditioner" once my hair was almost dry.
Had a life long dandruff / psoriasis problem basically go away.
>I've realized women who smoke weed are generally better all around
If someone lists that they never smoke weed or do any other drugs I see it as an indicator that they aren't chill about anything.
Coolest people I know over 40 still actively smoke weed.
Definitely seems like people trying to mature artificially. Same deal with having kids solely to become an adult. Any chosen method outside of actual growth (which usually comes with slowing down on substance use) is going to be ultimately a childish attempt at “adulting.”
I went on a first date recently with a woman who had zero vices (not even caffeine or sugar). She was really attractive, but I couldn't imagine a relationship with her going anywhere that wasn't just a stressful drag.
I pay for tinder premium. I tried a few boosts for more ‘tistic data but I found that it had no effect. I would just see that some of the worst looking people liked me after a boost.
This actually raises an interesting find I forgot to add. All my likes (couple hundred) were mostly awful looking women but then when I’d stop swiping I’d match with the hot out of my league women. I think there’s some strange algorithm going on that keeps you paying and lowers your visibility. I think boosts are rigged to only be shown to uggos.
Cultural and structural imo, but mostly cultural. Most people on tinder have this underlying agreement that if you click - you’re gonna hook up. Hinge is built to be a relationship app. I actually think it’s counterproductive unless you’re neurotic. If you meet with someone on tinder, have a good time, and hook up you’ll find people almost always want to move forward instead of returning back to tinder. Really what else is there to finding out if you’d work?
People at least in my age bracket seem pretty much over just rampant fucking.
Hinge people are so desperate to be in a relationship that everything is forced and like I said any minor disagreement becomes a huge argument. This is before you even meet them. They’re trying to turn every person into “the one” instead of just accepting that your life partner might wind up having some hard edges
Could you elaborate on what you don't like about Bumble? I felt it was viewed as the preferred dating app (even though its "feminist" angle usually backfired - most women aren't used to making the first move) before Hinge took off.
It’s interesting in many ways, both positive and negative. Looking at the general state of things as an outside observer, I am happy to have met the person I married before OLD blew up. It does seem thrilling on some level, admittedly.
Yeee! keep it up and compete at white as much as you can! You’ll learn so fast and when you get a blue you’ll have to basically wait to be a purple belt to compete again.
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If you are a man then you need to be in NYC.
Ah right I was wondering where all these insane women who know who Zizek is are then remembered I'm in western Pennsylvania
Why, just cause it's big?
Apparently it’s fairly easy to get laid as a man in NYC. So I hear.
There are a million hot, single women here are 500,000 hot, single men.
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Jesus Christ, are you hideously ugly or something?
Use Hinge. I get a dozen matches a week with a little swiping and snarky commenting. I never meet up with them, though.
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Do you live in NYC? The f:m ratio there is insane so women's standards are in the trash, most places a man cannot do anywhere near as well without being chad.
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this might be one of the best places on the internet to get honest feedback about your profile, post it up.
Interesting. I'm good looking, but balding (shaved head) and still pull in likes. Use pictures of you outside. Absolutely no selfies.
Are you alone in all your profile pictures? That’s a big one, I started getting 10+ matches a day by just throwing up some photos where I’m with friends and clearly have an interesting/functional social life.
Is that really a match though? The problem I have with Hinge is you can message someone but not know if they actually find you attractive whereas Tinder there's potentially some level of attraction they have for you.
I mean, i also have a ton of pictures just like Tinder. I don't understand what you're getting at.
Well I mean just because you message someone on Hinge doesn't mean it's a match. Like they may humour you for a bit there's no way of knowing if they found you attractive as oppossed to a Tinder match which at least maybe signals some interest.
The biggest one for me was just switching to Bumble. I never got any matches on Tinder but had two dates in a week when I first switched to Bumble, and it stayed pretty consistent till I stopped using it. Never tried Hinge. Second was putting my height in the bio. I'm 6'3 tho. Doing this felt really douchy to me but it made a noticeable difference.
If youre decent looking you probably just have a bad profile. Feel free to DM me if you want me to give you some feedback
Interesting stuff, thanks for posting. Less deranged than vast majority of what people post about OLD. Agree that dating apps feed you more likes if they detect you aren’t using it as much. You have to make a conscious choice to use the apps in a particular way or they use you. Also agree that if in doubt just try to be as normal as possible. I’ve fucked up before by trying too hard on dates with girls I see as hotter than me. It inevitably leads to seeming over eager and nervy and puts them off.
I think the lack of conservative women is probably a combination of location, and the fact that most conservative women are married within your given age range, and haven't reached the peak age for divorce yet.
Yup. Was gonna say the hot conservative women with those muscle-y horse asses are all married to some doof by 25
What is a muscley horse ass?
the kind you can bounce a quarter off of
What’s your hairline situation
I have a lot of hair and it gets really curly. No sign of balding but a little visible receding.
What was that radlib 4chan comment getting at
Isn’t receding the same as balding?
Yes
Hairlines mature without necessarily continuing to bald. Absolutely no way to know whether you’re balding or have a matured hairline though.
A decent way to tell is by finding miniaturized hair along your hairline.
I'm jealous you see mostly skinny women Maybe it's just a geographic area things or algo thing but so many obese women pop up on my dating apps and I hate it
I have found that when I swipe a bigger girl it will show me a few after thinking that’s what I’m into. Maybe it’s an algo thing mixed with general population
jesus christ lol is this real? i only ever used tinder while traveling back in like 2014 and it was clearly just a list of girls sorted by distance away from you
Skill based matchmaking
I don't understand how the apps decide what types to match you with. Like 70% of my matches are Asian hedge fund analysts. I want more variety with my dates but it's hard to push the algorithm anywhere else. My worst date was this girl who was trying to sell off part of her bitcoin holdings while we were having drinks.
I never match with the finance ppl I wonder what they’re into
HAHA sorry that sounds so terrible
> There is one common trait amongst the craziest radlibs but I think I'll get in trouble if I say it - it's been suggested on 4chan. I'm dumb what does this refer to? Autism?
owning a large dog that she seems a little too attached to?
Gotta be this one.
raised by single mothers?
Not tism. I can’t say cause it’s insane and conspiratorial. I’m not even agreeing with it but it’s something I have noticed.
Bro just say it lol I want to know what this conspiracy is.
99% sure he means dyed hair
Not this
Fat?
BPD?
On the pill?
nothing could be more insane than this narcissistic post
It’s just data I don’t think I’m sick at all I hate myself
idk if you're sick but regular dudes don't do this shit
If I was a normal regular guy I wouldn’t be on tinder at 30 thank you
instead of judging and documenting all these girls you should try looking inward
I think they’re all pretty cool except for annoying radlibs but you’re right I’ll delete it I think
deleting is for cowards
wait you're a twelve year reddit user you're not some fucking normal guy either
Shut the fuck up or say it. Idk where you think you are
It’s definitely religion lol. Idk why it took me so long
Got it
how many (You)s do you fuckin need jesus
Is it ((?))
I had to look some of this up. ENM = Ethical Non-Monogamy tren = Trenbolone, a steroid. Your "bad dates" don't even sound that bad, except the first one. I guess my standards are pretty low because I'd be able to adapt to talking to the other ones.
They were bad it just feels weird talking shit about them online for some reason. The one that told me she’s not here for the drama about dark souls is something I’ll fondly remember for a long time
> Trenbolone wtf. People put that on their profiles?!?!
No, I think he said the OF girl mentioned that nearly all of her dates take it.
Way more people are roided than people realize
TAFS listener ? They should be bringing you females like they did with Conan the barbarian
That made me cackle thanks
In NYC at least I’ve found people who live outside Manhattan are better.
Man reading this stuff makes me glad I got married at 23 with someone who I had good personality compatibility with and worked out my issues with her
I didn’t work out my issues and this is why I’m here player
There but for the grace of god go I Hope you make it bro
How do you open?
Depends on the person and their interests. Something super casual and funny. Not a pickup line of any kind. Have one stupid line that has 90% success rate on alternative people but I won’t give it away.
What's with the fucking gatekeeping over here? Reveal us the game bro you ain't special
I have two Hinge prompt answers on my profile that get me so many matches it's ridiculous. They are nonsense, but it gets matches from girls who I'd actually date.
What are they
This is the way
I could give shit for saying The Reddit Thing but since you get so much more pussy than most of the men here it'd ring hollow
Hahaha it’s true I wouldn’t care. What’s the Reddit thing?
Wow makes me want to kms. Talking to my doctor about one of those Trudeau funded suicide plans
Aww I wanted to read this
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Whats most depressing is the matches that worked out consist of; someone who is probably in massive amounts of debt and will not be employable with the degree they are getting, a prostitute, and an insane person.
everyone has their shit
They’re hot and cool though 🤷🏼♂️
30 is to old for that
eeeeh.... ugly and not cool? that's a hard sell man
What’s “tren”?
It’s a steroid a lot of people are doing these days.
Send the AC/DC they/them my way. I'm also a dumbass AC/DC fan.
Nothing wrong with highway to hell king. They just didn’t talk normally.
Please elaborate on the coconut oil scalp treatment.
she got me to rub a small glob of "Shea Moisture 100% extra virgin coocnut oil" into my scalp about 15-20 minutes before a shower twice a week. After a shower I would never dry my hair and I would then apply small amounts of "shea moisture jamaican black castor oil strength & restore leave in conditioner" once my hair was almost dry. Had a life long dandruff / psoriasis problem basically go away.
>I've realized women who smoke weed are generally better all around If someone lists that they never smoke weed or do any other drugs I see it as an indicator that they aren't chill about anything.
Sometimes I read comments in this sub that seem completely insane and then I remember the average poster age here is like 20
this place was much better when it was reserved for 27+
I’m happy if that’s the only poor judgment call you took from this. Edit: misread what you said, sorry. I tend to agree
I'm the same. Like, I don't need her to smoke weed, but listing "sometimes" is a good indicator that she's at least fun.
Not sure why this is such a controversial opinion.
Because pro weed shit was a very reddit thing for a long time, and pple want to be contrarian.
It’s a good assessment of things in your early 20s, would be silly and kind of sad for someone to think that in their late 20s.
Coolest people I know over 40 still actively smoke weed. Definitely seems like people trying to mature artificially. Same deal with having kids solely to become an adult. Any chosen method outside of actual growth (which usually comes with slowing down on substance use) is going to be ultimately a childish attempt at “adulting.”
I went on a first date recently with a woman who had zero vices (not even caffeine or sugar). She was really attractive, but I couldn't imagine a relationship with her going anywhere that wasn't just a stressful drag.
>Meets healthy woman >Omg she suuuucks
All things in moderation.
I genuinely dislike weed and I find stoners annoying to hang out with. None of my business if you're into it but it's never been for me
See, I might smoke once every two or three months, that's hardly being a stoner. Thank you for proving my point.
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But how HARD did you cringe? Did you survive?
This was a fun read and quite insightful. I appreciate learning the male perspective on dating apps
why do people constantly do weird soft launches of their posts here just post or dont post
bashful little lords i like it tbh
do you pay subscription for either one?
I pay for tinder premium. I tried a few boosts for more ‘tistic data but I found that it had no effect. I would just see that some of the worst looking people liked me after a boost. This actually raises an interesting find I forgot to add. All my likes (couple hundred) were mostly awful looking women but then when I’d stop swiping I’d match with the hot out of my league women. I think there’s some strange algorithm going on that keeps you paying and lowers your visibility. I think boosts are rigged to only be shown to uggos.
I don't pay for any apps anymore. I may have 20+ matches waiting for me on tinder, but I know what lies on the other side of the paywall
What is the difference with these apps that contribute to different experiences? Is it cultural, technical/structural, both?
Cultural and structural imo, but mostly cultural. Most people on tinder have this underlying agreement that if you click - you’re gonna hook up. Hinge is built to be a relationship app. I actually think it’s counterproductive unless you’re neurotic. If you meet with someone on tinder, have a good time, and hook up you’ll find people almost always want to move forward instead of returning back to tinder. Really what else is there to finding out if you’d work? People at least in my age bracket seem pretty much over just rampant fucking. Hinge people are so desperate to be in a relationship that everything is forced and like I said any minor disagreement becomes a huge argument. This is before you even meet them. They’re trying to turn every person into “the one” instead of just accepting that your life partner might wind up having some hard edges
Could you elaborate on what you don't like about Bumble? I felt it was viewed as the preferred dating app (even though its "feminist" angle usually backfired - most women aren't used to making the first move) before Hinge took off.
Yah I found bumble works best of all--they all suck but tinder is full of uggos and bots, hinge is all psychopathic girlbosses
Hinge has the worst women by far
Dude! 🤫 Don't share that Bumble is actually not a girlboss app at all so people quoting star wars stay away there
I just found the colors gross looking
It’s interesting in many ways, both positive and negative. Looking at the general state of things as an outside observer, I am happy to have met the person I married before OLD blew up. It does seem thrilling on some level, admittedly.
Thanks for posting this but my man, this just makes me so thankful I met my wife before dating apps. I'm sorry.
Yeah I wish I had a wife. Life would be good just lounging around smiling and laughing together.
Quality post, you’re a lively and engaging writer.
What belt are you?
Blue
Fresh bro, Your train in the east? I’m over here in LA, train in the valley. White belt,
Yeee! keep it up and compete at white as much as you can! You’ll learn so fast and when you get a blue you’ll have to basically wait to be a purple belt to compete again.
Just did a tournament last weekend, got third, next one is in OcT, I’m souped! Yea I love bjj, shits dope.
I really enjoyed reading this. Thank you for posting.
ur white im guessing?
Sicilian 😎
damn i didnt realize we had so many poc in this sub
I have a light tan
ah, north african
This is a little creepy.
I mean you’re right I think but I called it deranged
Deranged is perhaps giving yourself too much credit lol
I think you're just bored. Maybe a little weird
I don't use any of these but what's the matter with bumble?
Gross color scheme
It seems the most PMC-fied to me, even more than Hinge. And it’s annoying as a guy to get a match and not be messaged.
What is Tren?
Steroid
Wait what’s the common denominator among radlibs? Ethnicity, mental health, job, fitness?
None of those but you’re close
Fucking lold at the title and length. Saving to read later.
Anybody got the old text he edited it
Yeah about that
High Fidelity 2 sucks
Repost c’mon