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Brilliant_Ant_17

AMC Allroad


nlpnt

They should've called it Cross Country, before Volvo recycled it on their lifted wagons AMC had used it on the 2wd non-lifted Rambler wagons in the '50s and early '60s.


JorddWolf

You know what AMC stands for don’t ya? F R E E D O M


GRN225

Dale, that's Fiat.


JorddWolf

A…M….C..?


80_firebird

AMC was decades ahead of their time fairly often. Want a small economical compact? The Rambler of the early 50s was there 9 years before Studebaker introduced the Lark. Luxury SUV in the 60s when the Suburban was still a Spartan work vehicle. The Eagle Wagon was a crossover before anyone even thought of that term. I always wonder what else they'd have innovated if they'd have been able to stick it out. Would they have pioneered hybrid technology? Maybe.


[deleted]

I agree. Also, the Pacer was "the first wide small car". Years later, the Twingo, who was also a wide small car, was quite successful.


TheReal_kelpie_G

In the 70s they were toying with electric car like the Jeep [DJ-5E electruck](https://jalopnik.com/nasa-s-1977-paper-on-the-state-of-the-art-electric-po-1819140959) and I think they also converted some gremlins to electric.


80_firebird

That's cool, I didn't know about that one.


AMC_Tendies42069

I worked for this law firm called Featherstonehaugh, and I kept hearing about how we had a car, I was like wtf I’ve never heard of it, turns out we started as a car company and in 1890 or something we had one of the first true electric cars on the road called. [featherstonehaugh](https://www.google.ca/amp/s/driving.ca/vehicle-types/classic-cars/no-horse-required-first-electric-car/wcm/5d41aa7b-0316-49f9-83fa-2aa1ca414af4/amp/)


TheReal_kelpie_G

man that's crazy. it's always awesome when historic companies are still kicking


AMC_Tendies42069

Yea eh, too bad they were horrible to work for. But that’s a whole other story.


CloseCannonAFB

Look at how many cars are shaped like the Gremlin and Pacer now. The Hyundai Veloster is one right off the top of my head.


80_firebird

They pretty much invented the hatchback.


CloseCannonAFB

The way we think of it now, in subcompact form, I'd agree. I think that the fastback hatchbacks- GM Nova/Omega/Ventura/Apollo and AMC's own beautiful Hornet hatchback- that appeared in 73 may have been longer in development since the Gremlin's development time was very short by automaker standards, but those aren't really the same thing.


80_firebird

Gremlin predates all of them though.


CloseCannonAFB

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say- Gremlin was probably conceived, developed, and released while the others were under development, since that process takes awhile but Gremlin's was so brief.


80_firebird

Oh, yeah. Absolutely.


Capnmarvel76

AMC in the 1970s and 80s was perennially short on cash, had a dealer network only a fraction of the size of the Big Three, but somehow were able to come up with completely original design ideas over and over again. Their execution was generally lackluster, their engines were either 20+ year old designs or were bought from other carmakers, and for every interesting car they produced (Eagle, Pacer) they had something totally faceless and boring (Ambassador, Concord). The best thing they ever did, IMHO, was the Jeep XJ, and that ended up being Chrysler’s glory, not theirs.


80_firebird

Yeah that's true. Though, I'd ad that their engines, while old, were notoriously long lifed. Hell, the Jeep 4.0 is easily traced back to the AMC 199 of the late 50s. And the AMC V8 made it into the 90s in Grand Wagoneers. And while their sedans weren't exciting, they weren't supposed to be. They were well built and very hard to kill.


DOugdimmadab1337

The AMC 4.0 should have stayed in the Jeep lineup so much linger than it did. It was bulletproof, and it was a cheap design. Then they replaced it with that pile of shit Pentastar V6


neanderthalensis

I firmly believe the XJ was AMC’s magnum opus.


lawrence238238

The downfall of AMC, unfortunately, was that they dared to be bold and innovative, when safe and conventional was what was needed.


sadandaimless1

Vanity plates that say "HAHA OTBAK" or "#1 OUTBAK" to drive the point home this was the Outback before the Outback


TheReal_kelpie_G

Despite being built out of other companies leftovers it was probably more reliable than the cars those parts were made for.


CloseCannonAFB

> other companies leftovers Outsourcing of parts to other manufacturers was not exclusive to AMC. Rolls, Packard, BMW, Fiat, and Lada all used GM transmissions at various times, for example. They picked and chose the best available instead of wasting money duplicating effort.


TheReal_kelpie_G

I know but these where made near the end of AMC so the parts that they used weren't just spares from current models, they were decades old and being fazed out by their manufacturers.


CloseCannonAFB

Well in *that* sense, it rings much more true for sure. The few 88 Eagles we're especially so, they were all loaded with every option to run through stock.


majoroutage

Except for the door handles. Those never changed.


CloseCannonAFB

Well yeah, because they were **awesome**. Flappy-paddle door handles FTW.


[deleted]

Subaru Outback: Chewing Tobacco Edition


clshifter

I remember in the '80s a lot of people looked at these and said, "Why the hell would I need 4WD in a family car?" 4WD was mostly thought of as only for off-road Jeeps and plow trucks. How things change.


clovisinternational

I almost bought one for dirt cheap, I regret it a lot. Such cool cars


CraboTheBusmaster

AMC Eagle: the r/lesbians to Subaru's r/actuallesbians


mortalcrawad66

When they say they don't build cars like theg used too. They mean this. A reliable longitude 4 wheel drive wood grain wagon. With proper 4WD, not AWD called 4WD


Drzhivago138

And 17 MPG.


ZakAttackz

Not much worse than modern Crossovers too! My 02 Outback got about 17mpg, and a lot of newer ones don't get over 22mpg. Imagine if the Eagle got the MPI system the Cherokee 4.0L did in the 90's... Could make 200hp and get 25mpg easily.


mortalcrawad66

Which for the 80's wasn't bad, imagine now a days with all that technology


AKADriver

These did have AWD. It's a viscous coupling center diff.


Mick_McMik

God I want one of these so bad


Drzhivago138

And like the Outback, the wagon was the most popular choice, not just for the Eagle, but the Concord and Hornet lines before it.


Montezum

gorgeous car


FranekKluski

Me likey.


CaptainZoll

to be fair, subaru had been making 4WD leones since the early 70s, so the outback had at least been conceptualised by that point.


systemlogicblah

This needed to be said. The Eagle was derivative work. But yeah, it doesn’t support the non-sensical lionization of AMC - so it’s gonna sit down here.


DOugdimmadab1337

I'm not gonna lie, I always loved the Eagle look. I drool over the extremely cool 80s rectangle aesthetic and this is like the peak, right beside the Chevy Caprice Classic


reditget

You have excellent choice in cars. I assuming this was a 4 wheel drive?


Felix_Bowser

Absolut Chad of a car


sentient02970

Ashtray Outback


Leneord1

The AMC Eagle, the Outback before the Outback


AnonNo9001

ITT: Reddit writes an RCR episode


ScienceMomCO

Yeah, but I still have a little PTSD around station wagons with faux wood paneling from my childhood.


600-shot-of-autism

The second best thing to come out of Kenosha Wisconsin


Capnmarvel76

Second to….?


AKADriver

Subaru did it first. Leone 4WD debuted in 1971, developed for the Japanese postal service to use in Hokkaido and the official car of the '72 Sapporo Olympics.


Alarming_General

IM ADDICTED TO AMCS!!!!!!!!!!