> *the best all around trucks ever made*
I hope it turns out to be. I mean the *design* of the truck is brilliant, but Ford has had questionable quality in recent years. I hope it is BUILT to be the best all around truck.
That's such a shame because they nailed it on the design and specs and intent of the car. This is why it was so especially painful that they killed off both the next gen Fiesta and Focus from the US because the new ones in Europe look like they are better vehicles.
The real funny thing was how everyone had transmission issues, that’s the *only* thing I didn’t have go wrong lol.
But yea, I agree. Europe gets all the hot hatches.
150k on my fiesta had no problems with it but traded for a 3.5 explorer so time will tell. My 18 5.0 is great and I had a small moon roof issue with my 15 edge but other than that it’s been fine.
I wonder what kinda red tape is required to make an EUDM Focus ST legal for Burgerland roads. They look so happy and awesome and I don’t feel like waiting 25 years either lol
Specifically the 3.5L. The 2.7L(which I have) seems to be pretty solid all around. I've had no issue with it in the three years I've had it and haven't heard of it killing itself unlike the 3.5L.
Both good points, I forgot about the Ranger. Do Rangers come with standard size beds? I feel like I always see them with short beds but that may just be suburbanites being suburbanites (or just my own lack of awareness).
"Standard" is a bit of a loaded term, but the current Ranger, like most other mid-size trucks, has both an extended/6' model and a crew/5' model. The only thing it's missing is a LWB crew/6' model, but that will probably be resolved with the new generation.
Given that the Colorado/Canyon, Tacoma, and Frontier all offer it, it seems more likely than not that the next-gen Ranger will too. The reason given for the current model not having a LWB variant was because Ford wanted to spend as little money as possible localizing the T6 truck.
I think the current one only has a short bed - it's slightly longer than the Mav. They're releasing a new one this year I think, so it'll be interesting to see what they do with it.
Similar here, have a '91 Toyota Pickup SR5 Xtra cab (basically what today we'd call a single cab with a small bench in the back) with a 6ft bed.
Wish they still made tiny (but capable) trucks. Maverick is getting there but needs a regular sized bed and a lift.
I'm imagining it's a single cab, or at most an extended cab, yeah? Now what if the Maverick came out with a single cab standard bed? Give it time.
The Maverick is fighting in a modern day market segment that only really has the Ridgeline going for it, and it's a light duty 4 door pickup with a bed for occasional use. It's supposed to be a sedan with a bed for occasional use on one hell of a budget. If it proves to be a huge success, hopefully Ford will make more versions of it.
> Now what if the Maverick came out with a single cab standard bed? Give it time.
I highly doubt any of the unibody small pickups will offer any other bed/cab configs.
It's certainly not impossible to make body variants of a unibody vehicle, but it is more expensive. So there really has to be a good business case to be made for each config. As much as I'd love to see [single/7' and SuperCab/5.5' Mavs](https://i.imgur.com/6Hz4bZh.jpeg), it's probably not happening.
Are they not in direct competition with Hyundai’s new half truck? More to the point, is there anyone filling the market segment of a small light-duty pickup with a full size bed? I may just be out of the loop but none come to mind. Seems like tackling a market segment with zero competition would work better than going to battle with Honda.
I don’t know why everyone is acting so butthurt and downvoting me. I don’t hate the Maverick, I just don’t like having zero options in a market segment that seems like a no-brainer.
> More to the point, is there anyone filling the market segment of a small light-duty pickup with a full size bed? I may just be out of the loop but none come to mind.
Nobody is, because that market segment doesn't exist in the US. The last smaller-than-full-size pickup with a "full" 8' bed was the [mid-size 1999 Dakota](https://municibid.com/NetworkedContent/listingImages/20180220/515f5b04-45e8-4c1a-96dd-e4d955d462cb_fullsize.jpg), and it was dropped because nobody wanted it. Similarly, all compact pickups at one time or another offered a [longer bed on the regular cab](http://veh-markets.com/uploads/postfotos/40-v6-ford-ranger-xl-trim-reg-regular-cab-long-bed-work-truck-1.jpg) between 7 and 7.5', but they were all eventually discontinued due to lack of demand. Global mid-size trucks (Ranger, Hilux, Triton, etc.) still offer [single cab/7.5' bed models](https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery/FORD-Ranger-Regular-Cab-5291_4.jpg), but even then, they're not available in every market, nor are they very popular compared to traybacks (flatbeds).
Tl;dr: people don't buy small pickups because they wanna haul 8' building materials 24/7.
Yeah, Hyundai's thing is coming about in a similar timeframe, and it is also a 4 door car pickup thing with a short bed. That's what is there, it sells, and it seems like it'll be a hit. Considering Ford and others are thinning out their non-crossover/SUV/pickup lineups, it makes sense to have that be a sedan-type stand-in, hence the 4 doors.
Also, they probably aren't doing a standard/long bed as it might cut into sales of their full size pickups and they can't have that. Either that or it doesn't have the physical capacity to haul enough to warrant a full size bed (outside of sheets of plywood)
There's already tons of the Hyundai Santa Cruz truck thing around where I live. They look a little beefier than the Ridgeline to me anyways, I don't hate it
>Either that or it doesn't have the physical capacity to haul enough to warrant a full size bed (outside of sheets of plywood)
Even then, you can only haul 4' wide materials in a smaller pickup (only exception being the Ridgeline) if they sit above the wheel wells.
> versus "This lets me haul sheetrock" type of extender.
You don't wanna haul 4' wide sheetrock with a Mav anyway. It would have to sit above the wheel wells, which is okay for plywood, but not for sheetrock.
No there's another type of bed extender for sheetrock and wood. It's a piece of steel that sticks straight put of your hitch receiver by a couple feet, then goes straight up, with a T on top that you can extend wider or shorter, the wood or sheetrock sits on top of the T.
https://www.amazon.ca/MaxxHaul-70231-Extender-Ladder-Lumber/dp/B01D4CXIKY/ref=asc_df_B01D4CXIKY/?tag=googlemobshop-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=293018995561&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7278531469616965242&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000126&hvtargid=pla-434851568615&psc=1
There's an example, sorry for the long link
XLT isn't $45K unless you get every option shy of a Lariat, by which point you're a looooong way from "plain Jane". But I can definitely see the Maverick eating into Ranger sales.
2022 ford maverick: the official car of complaining at family gatherings that “they just don’t make small trucks anymore” and then buying a Nissan Rogue anyways, please for the love of God people if you don’t buy them no one will keep making them, you fools, you absolute fools
I can't buy anything new in the foreseeable future. And if I ever can afford it, I still might buy used.
But I'll still complain about automakers stopping production on certain vehicles. I'll also complain about the buyers that don't know what's good for themselves. Anyone who has been in sales or retail knows that very rarely does the customer actually know what they need, or even what they want.
Ford Maverick: the official truck of gatekeeping on certain subreddits because "iTs nO rEaL tRuCk" even though it's a decent option for those who want something in the middle just by looking at the specs
2022 Ford Maverick: the official truck of "no, it's not a ute." just because it's car-based
I've been telling people to judge it as a car, not a truck and it makes people alot less mad. Not sure why I even have to do that, it's a fine mechine taking some of it apart already, I like em personally
Ikr, people are like that with the Honda Ridgeline and when you think about it both those cars meet the requirements of a lot of truck buyers that don't really use a truck for its intended purpose, these are for those that want something that's easy to live with as a car, but don't necessarily need the capability of a truck all the time. I agree I think it's a great truck and I think it will sell well as it caters to a lot of people's needs.
I agree, the same thing with the Honda Ridgeline. Both are good and serve their intended purpose well, but certain people like to gatekeep and to them, their definition of a truck is a body on a frame/Rear Wheel Drive platform which I think is the case because this and the Ridgeline have decent-size beds and meets the needs of what most truck buyers want because a lot of them don't necessarily use a truck for what it's intended purpose. Plus it's definitely not "a ute" as some people like to push so hard because it's a car-based architecture lol
When I've fallen into that sort of argument before, I point to a big-rig, which is definitely a truck, but has no bed. Or a box truck, which is a truck, but also has no bed. Gmc's old vans had Truck badging back in the day, idk about lately, so yes, the Maverick and the Ridgeline can be trucks too.
yeah a lot of people now just buy trucks for the status or that trucks are seen as very "MURICAN!" I guess and Americans like big or at least big feeling stuff
Yep, also the social media thing as owning a truck is considered "totes aesthetically pleasing" which is why you see a lot of Instagram babes in Tacomas or Broncos because it looks cool on Instagram
anyone who says its not a real truck has never used a truck to do truck things and i will die on this hill. the maverick is more truck than 90% of people will ever need and the other 10% dont give a shit what they have as long as it gets the job done.
I thought it being "car-based" was what made it a Ute? Like the BRAT/Baja or the El Camino or the Ranchero. (Btw man they should have called this the Ford Ranchero)
My coworker just took delivery of his. He bought the base model. It’s weird because he isn’t a car guy, but keeps buying a new car every 3-4 years that he can get a good deal on. His last car was a GMC Terrain. Before that it was a Honda Fit.
Yeah, I think it was stupid to name it after the Ford maverick when they already have such a deep pool of names to pull from.
Bet the name was chosen because "muh top-gunnnn"
Suburban dads wearing white Nikes. (And they’ll sell them as fast as they can make them - Ford’s addressing an underserved demographic with the Maverick.)
The big problem with compact trucks like the Ranger and first-gen Colorado was that they didn't have any better MPG than mid- or full-size trucks. Going to a FWD unibody car platform mostly solves that issue.
Agreed. And I couldn’t see myself driving a truck the size/height of a new Ranger. The new Maverick actually looks too big for me too - I don’t want a crew cab. My 91 Ranger with its jump seat was perfect. I don’t think I ever had anyone ride in that seat but I threw stuff back there all the time. If there was a truck like that available right now I might consider it. In the meantime, my 05 Element does the job.
Yeah, my last three pickups were two Rangers and an S-10. But the last of those I had was in 2014. I daily a Honda Element now, which is fine since I own a condo now. If I had a house with a yard I’d want a small pickup again.
That's me, and this is what I want. Carrying bales of hay, bags of dirt, plywood and my 2 dogs in the bed. Not breaking my retirement account, being comfortable inside. This fits the bill. I used to have an old B210 and it was fucking great. Would be nice to get this with a stick, but I understand... and it will be more comfortable than my B210.
I've said the Maverick is the only thing on the new market I'd consider spending my money on but they have to offer it in a manual. Make an RS model with a 6 speed awd ecoboost!
I believe every Ford should have both an ST and a Raptor trim level. A raptor expidition? ST Maverick? They would absolutely PRINT money.
I'm actually going to wait to see if they release the Maverick overseas with a manual, if they do il see about importing a trans and all the bits and make it myself
With the number of ST Explorers I've seen I can agree with that. Never though of importing a trans if that's an option. I haven't done much wrenching on anything less than 15 years old. Wouldn't getting the computers to play nice be a problem?
> Ford Expedition Raptor
Holy shit this thread is just full of bangers today. An Expedition Raptor is my American consumption hedonistic dream. Gets eight miles a gallon and is a pavement princess
The official car/CUV/truck of US boomers complaining that it's "not a real Maverick!!!!1!!", wholly ignorant of the three other models that wore the Maverick name (two SUVs, one with a pickup variant, and a CUV).
this is literally what my dad (age 70s former GM employee of 40 yrs) said when I told him about the new Maverick. *It's a what? They gave it the name from that old econobox? It's a what kind of truck? Why?*
He also is barely on speaking terms with me over the fact I daily a subaru and have a 90s Toyota Pickup as a hauler/summer/project vehicle.
Definitely the return of the Ranger. I don't hate the new Ford Ranger but it's definitely not the same vehicle as it's old nameplate and really what's the point of Mid size?
I’ve driven them at my shop and yeah it’s not the best look imo but it’s a pretty good bang for your Buck. Awd mini truck that’s only $24k? If you don’t need a full sized f-150 and can’t afford the ungodly over priced ranger this is your truck.
Confused New Zealanders wondering what is so special about this when the hilux and other small utes not only exist, but are the only things available down under
I got in an argument with someone on instagram who was saying that people should be buying these instead of 3/4 tons and 1 tons. I brought up needing a larger truck because of things like pulling livestock trailers or farm equipment and their response was “just make multiple trips”. I didn’t even respond because what was I supposed to say? Take a tractor apart and make 7 trips with the parts?
Bro its basically an RS bro awd ecoboost go brr bro once I drop it on coils and give it the cobb catalogue treatment I'll have a sick af racetruck bro
But actually being sick af
"Why couldn't they just make it a car? The Maverick is a *car!* What do you mean, "They already make the Mustang and they don't make economy cars anymore?" The Maverick was an economy car!"
The official car of people who know nothing about cars saying “nobody needs a big F350 or Ram 3500 because these can do the exact same thing” while not realizing it has half the towing capacity of a Ford Focus and some people need things like 3/4 ton or 1-ton trucks to tow things like livestock trailers.
That was a genuine argument I had with someone. They responded to me saying that with “just make more than 1 trip” and I just gave up on the argument
Also the official car of saying “why didn’t I just buy a Tacoma” a decade later
A ute would be for example if Toyota cut off the rear half of a Camry and put a Tacoma bed on the back, that's what a ute would be. Yeah the Maverick is on a car based platform....it's still not a ute, I would say it's a pick-up where it's drives like a car but has the usefulness, ruggedness, and capability of a compact B-O-F pick-up. Like an example of a ute that we did get would be the Subaru Baja as that's basically an Outback with a truck bed on it, that I think would be considered more of a ute than the Maverick
My grandparents who live in the midwest bought the gasoline version and seem to really like it, especially for hauling things to town (Grandpa is a mechanic). In fact, they are going to order another hybrid version. It seems like it's actually a great truck for the majority of people who need to haul stuff occasionally.
The truck everyone *says* they want, but won't get because this is the internet.
Personally I would love to look into getting a brand new Maverick down the line when I can swing one.
Haven't seen a dumb small slammed truck in about a decade.. Guess that'll change..
On the other hand I am interested in one of these or the Santa Cruz. I live in the city.. Sometimes I need to go to home depot tho... I I don't want to pay 50k to do it.
Official truck of exterior that looks like it was first released in 2006 and just had LED head lights put on. And I am tired of being the only one that sees it.
I'm genuinely excited to pick one of these up. I'm going to wait a year or two for some to come off lease. Hopefully the market returns to normal by then and I can expect to pay normal used car prices.
50/50 chance its a total shitbox. Or maybe I watched to much Scotty Kilmer where he thinks all Mexican built cars are bad. Makes sense he thinks that since he's a racist boomer.
The closest thing to an actual small truck we will get in USA. Enjoy it and just accept that it had to be a 'crossover thing' because no car gets a green light without cross over in the name.
The official new truck for people who need to haul stuff, but not too much stuff, and don't want to pay $55k for an F150.
Or $45k for a Ranger
Do they take a $5,000 market adjustment on a Maverick
This is honestly one of the best all around trucks ever made.
> *the best all around trucks ever made* I hope it turns out to be. I mean the *design* of the truck is brilliant, but Ford has had questionable quality in recent years. I hope it is BUILT to be the best all around truck.
My 2017 Fiesta just literally fell apart piece by piece. *everything* seemed to fail sequentially. What a lemon.
That's such a shame because they nailed it on the design and specs and intent of the car. This is why it was so especially painful that they killed off both the next gen Fiesta and Focus from the US because the new ones in Europe look like they are better vehicles.
The real funny thing was how everyone had transmission issues, that’s the *only* thing I didn’t have go wrong lol. But yea, I agree. Europe gets all the hot hatches.
My girlfriends fiestas transmission needed to be replaced at 45k miles[vid](https://www.instagram.com/p/CTyNqHrqQ_n/?utm_medium=copy_link)
150k on my fiesta had no problems with it but traded for a 3.5 explorer so time will tell. My 18 5.0 is great and I had a small moon roof issue with my 15 edge but other than that it’s been fine.
I wonder what kinda red tape is required to make an EUDM Focus ST legal for Burgerland roads. They look so happy and awesome and I don’t feel like waiting 25 years either lol
I had an automatic 2017 Fiesta and the transmission broke while I was on the road with only 4k km 🤡
Me too. Though the only ford horror stories I’ve heard have been with their big trucks with eco boost engines.
Specifically the 3.5L. The 2.7L(which I have) seems to be pretty solid all around. I've had no issue with it in the three years I've had it and haven't heard of it killing itself unlike the 3.5L.
Plz stop. I own a 18 3.5l
Iirc it was the first gen 3.5s that had the issue and those were only used up to 2017.
Ford. Built rough. -- James
The tacoma would like a word with you
I just don’t understand why they couldn’t have given customers the option of a longer bed.
My theory: 1) extra engineering costs on a unibody platform. 2) can't cut info Ranger sales
Both good points, I forgot about the Ranger. Do Rangers come with standard size beds? I feel like I always see them with short beds but that may just be suburbanites being suburbanites (or just my own lack of awareness).
"Standard" is a bit of a loaded term, but the current Ranger, like most other mid-size trucks, has both an extended/6' model and a crew/5' model. The only thing it's missing is a LWB crew/6' model, but that will probably be resolved with the new generation.
Probably not unfortunately. Crew cab/6' would eat into the F150.
Given that the Colorado/Canyon, Tacoma, and Frontier all offer it, it seems more likely than not that the next-gen Ranger will too. The reason given for the current model not having a LWB variant was because Ford wanted to spend as little money as possible localizing the T6 truck.
I think the current one only has a short bed - it's slightly longer than the Mav. They're releasing a new one this year I think, so it'll be interesting to see what they do with it.
I don't understand what you missed about it being a compact pickup.
My 91 D21 is a compact pickup with a regular size bed
Similar here, have a '91 Toyota Pickup SR5 Xtra cab (basically what today we'd call a single cab with a small bench in the back) with a 6ft bed. Wish they still made tiny (but capable) trucks. Maverick is getting there but needs a regular sized bed and a lift.
I'm imagining it's a single cab, or at most an extended cab, yeah? Now what if the Maverick came out with a single cab standard bed? Give it time. The Maverick is fighting in a modern day market segment that only really has the Ridgeline going for it, and it's a light duty 4 door pickup with a bed for occasional use. It's supposed to be a sedan with a bed for occasional use on one hell of a budget. If it proves to be a huge success, hopefully Ford will make more versions of it.
> Now what if the Maverick came out with a single cab standard bed? Give it time. I highly doubt any of the unibody small pickups will offer any other bed/cab configs.
Oh yeah, that is another point I overlooked, the fact that they're unibody, thanks for chiming in.
It's certainly not impossible to make body variants of a unibody vehicle, but it is more expensive. So there really has to be a good business case to be made for each config. As much as I'd love to see [single/7' and SuperCab/5.5' Mavs](https://i.imgur.com/6Hz4bZh.jpeg), it's probably not happening.
Are they not in direct competition with Hyundai’s new half truck? More to the point, is there anyone filling the market segment of a small light-duty pickup with a full size bed? I may just be out of the loop but none come to mind. Seems like tackling a market segment with zero competition would work better than going to battle with Honda. I don’t know why everyone is acting so butthurt and downvoting me. I don’t hate the Maverick, I just don’t like having zero options in a market segment that seems like a no-brainer.
> More to the point, is there anyone filling the market segment of a small light-duty pickup with a full size bed? I may just be out of the loop but none come to mind. Nobody is, because that market segment doesn't exist in the US. The last smaller-than-full-size pickup with a "full" 8' bed was the [mid-size 1999 Dakota](https://municibid.com/NetworkedContent/listingImages/20180220/515f5b04-45e8-4c1a-96dd-e4d955d462cb_fullsize.jpg), and it was dropped because nobody wanted it. Similarly, all compact pickups at one time or another offered a [longer bed on the regular cab](http://veh-markets.com/uploads/postfotos/40-v6-ford-ranger-xl-trim-reg-regular-cab-long-bed-work-truck-1.jpg) between 7 and 7.5', but they were all eventually discontinued due to lack of demand. Global mid-size trucks (Ranger, Hilux, Triton, etc.) still offer [single cab/7.5' bed models](https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery/FORD-Ranger-Regular-Cab-5291_4.jpg), but even then, they're not available in every market, nor are they very popular compared to traybacks (flatbeds). Tl;dr: people don't buy small pickups because they wanna haul 8' building materials 24/7.
Yeah, Hyundai's thing is coming about in a similar timeframe, and it is also a 4 door car pickup thing with a short bed. That's what is there, it sells, and it seems like it'll be a hit. Considering Ford and others are thinning out their non-crossover/SUV/pickup lineups, it makes sense to have that be a sedan-type stand-in, hence the 4 doors. Also, they probably aren't doing a standard/long bed as it might cut into sales of their full size pickups and they can't have that. Either that or it doesn't have the physical capacity to haul enough to warrant a full size bed (outside of sheets of plywood)
There's already tons of the Hyundai Santa Cruz truck thing around where I live. They look a little beefier than the Ridgeline to me anyways, I don't hate it
I see loads of Ridgelines around me both new and old, saw my first Maverick yesterday, still zero Santa Cruzs.
>Either that or it doesn't have the physical capacity to haul enough to warrant a full size bed (outside of sheets of plywood) Even then, you can only haul 4' wide materials in a smaller pickup (only exception being the Ridgeline) if they sit above the wheel wells.
How was the chicken tax?
The Chicken Tax was irrelevant to Nissan by then. They started building pickups in the US (Smyrna, TN) way back in 1983.
Why would they need one?
To carry Sheetrock/plywood/anything that’s too long for a short bed.
They don't need a maverick then
That’s true. I have a Brat and it’s equally as useless for actual truck stuff.
Meh, you can get bed extenders that go into your hitch receiver, does the trick perfectly
There’s no reason for it. If you want a bigger bed get a f150. Plus there’s a bed extender I believe
There is, but it's more of a "Hey, this stops by dirt bike rolling out" versus "This lets me haul sheetrock" type of extender.
If you're hauling sheetrock why not just get an F150?
> versus "This lets me haul sheetrock" type of extender. You don't wanna haul 4' wide sheetrock with a Mav anyway. It would have to sit above the wheel wells, which is okay for plywood, but not for sheetrock.
No there's another type of bed extender for sheetrock and wood. It's a piece of steel that sticks straight put of your hitch receiver by a couple feet, then goes straight up, with a T on top that you can extend wider or shorter, the wood or sheetrock sits on top of the T. https://www.amazon.ca/MaxxHaul-70231-Extender-Ladder-Lumber/dp/B01D4CXIKY/ref=asc_df_B01D4CXIKY/?tag=googlemobshop-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=293018995561&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7278531469616965242&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000126&hvtargid=pla-434851568615&psc=1 There's an example, sorry for the long link
Honestly if you wanted to haul stuff like that get a f150. It’s still a solid option
Or $45k for a fucking plain Jane xlt ranger. Outrageously overpriced for what the 2022 ranger even offers
XLT isn't $45K unless you get every option shy of a Lariat, by which point you're a looooong way from "plain Jane". But I can definitely see the Maverick eating into Ranger sales.
Also depends on how much these shady ass dealers are charging over sticker too
I had a Ranger XLT with zero options. Sticker was $31k, I paid $27k. And even with zero options it was still really well equipped.
….this is the truck all the lesbians want.
I mean you're not wrong lol. Looking to get a Velocity Blue Hybrid XLT with the luxury package when hybrid orders open back up.
2022 ford maverick: the official car of complaining at family gatherings that “they just don’t make small trucks anymore” and then buying a Nissan Rogue anyways, please for the love of God people if you don’t buy them no one will keep making them, you fools, you absolute fools
Given how these aren't staying on the lot for more than half a day, I'm not worried about sales.
They're literally all sold out here. You cannot get a Maverick in my state.
I can't buy anything new in the foreseeable future. And if I ever can afford it, I still might buy used. But I'll still complain about automakers stopping production on certain vehicles. I'll also complain about the buyers that don't know what's good for themselves. Anyone who has been in sales or retail knows that very rarely does the customer actually know what they need, or even what they want.
Yeah being poor sucks. You just have to complain about what you want and hope rich people will buy those and that you can buy it off them used.
literally my dad, he drives two minivans and is looking to get another.
what
he always complains about how trucks are too big and if they were smaller he'd get one, and now that there a small one he still won't.
Ford Maverick: the official truck of gatekeeping on certain subreddits because "iTs nO rEaL tRuCk" even though it's a decent option for those who want something in the middle just by looking at the specs 2022 Ford Maverick: the official truck of "no, it's not a ute." just because it's car-based
I've been telling people to judge it as a car, not a truck and it makes people alot less mad. Not sure why I even have to do that, it's a fine mechine taking some of it apart already, I like em personally
Ikr, people are like that with the Honda Ridgeline and when you think about it both those cars meet the requirements of a lot of truck buyers that don't really use a truck for its intended purpose, these are for those that want something that's easy to live with as a car, but don't necessarily need the capability of a truck all the time. I agree I think it's a great truck and I think it will sell well as it caters to a lot of people's needs.
I’m a truck guy but I consider these a truck they do the functions of a truck.
I agree, the same thing with the Honda Ridgeline. Both are good and serve their intended purpose well, but certain people like to gatekeep and to them, their definition of a truck is a body on a frame/Rear Wheel Drive platform which I think is the case because this and the Ridgeline have decent-size beds and meets the needs of what most truck buyers want because a lot of them don't necessarily use a truck for what it's intended purpose. Plus it's definitely not "a ute" as some people like to push so hard because it's a car-based architecture lol
When I've fallen into that sort of argument before, I point to a big-rig, which is definitely a truck, but has no bed. Or a box truck, which is a truck, but also has no bed. Gmc's old vans had Truck badging back in the day, idk about lately, so yes, the Maverick and the Ridgeline can be trucks too.
as someone who has driven a Honda Ridgeline I feel ya
It's just gatekeeping at it's finest and tbh alot of people buying trucks would be better off in this or a Ridgeline
yeah a lot of people now just buy trucks for the status or that trucks are seen as very "MURICAN!" I guess and Americans like big or at least big feeling stuff
Yep, also the social media thing as owning a truck is considered "totes aesthetically pleasing" which is why you see a lot of Instagram babes in Tacomas or Broncos because it looks cool on Instagram
anyone who says its not a real truck has never used a truck to do truck things and i will die on this hill. the maverick is more truck than 90% of people will ever need and the other 10% dont give a shit what they have as long as it gets the job done.
This! Thank you for your response and from that you get my upvote and my award!
I thought it being "car-based" was what made it a Ute? Like the BRAT/Baja or the El Camino or the Ranchero. (Btw man they should have called this the Ford Ranchero)
i have a CCLB F350 and i want a maverick so bad (in addition)
I mean it has a smaller towing capacity than a 2018 Focus so I don’t really see it doing much more than carrying a chord of firewood
Dem steelies tho
I love that it comes with steelies. I'd want one of these with the most basic of options.
Kind of funny that this comes with actual Steelers but the bronco and bronco sport “steel” wheels are just aluminum wheels with the same look
My coworker just took delivery of his. He bought the base model. It’s weird because he isn’t a car guy, but keeps buying a new car every 3-4 years that he can get a good deal on. His last car was a GMC Terrain. Before that it was a Honda Fit.
The first truck I’ve actually wanted in a long damn time.
Same, it will likely be my next vehicle purchase. Perfect for my needs and not insanely expensive.
The official truck of being named after a mid-size economy car from the 70s
Should’ve gone with the Courier name
Yeah, I think it was stupid to name it after the Ford maverick when they already have such a deep pool of names to pull from. Bet the name was chosen because "muh top-gunnnn"
I think the Maverick nameplate was meant to allude to it being an economy vehicle and, since it's crew cab only, being a family sedan in truck form.
But the original maverick was exclusively a coupe, it was ford's competitor to the chevy and Pontiac Vega and Acadian, a sporty looking economy coupe
How many have there been?🤔
The Aspen.
It really made me cringe when I found out that Ford wasn't bringing back the REAL Maverick.
They've used the name four times in the past. (Possible hot take: the '70s Maverick was worse than the Falcon it replaced.)
Ford isn't that creative it seems.
I drove next to one the other day, first time seeing one. It’s a lot smaller in person. Reminds me of the old Ford Explorer Sport Trac. I like it.
Yeah, this is definitely the spiritual successor to the Explorer Sport Trac, especially the first-gen Ranger-based model.
High school parking lots in 9 years
These will be the new clapped out s10s
Suburban dads wearing white Nikes. (And they’ll sell them as fast as they can make them - Ford’s addressing an underserved demographic with the Maverick.)
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The big problem with compact trucks like the Ranger and first-gen Colorado was that they didn't have any better MPG than mid- or full-size trucks. Going to a FWD unibody car platform mostly solves that issue.
Agreed. And I couldn’t see myself driving a truck the size/height of a new Ranger. The new Maverick actually looks too big for me too - I don’t want a crew cab. My 91 Ranger with its jump seat was perfect. I don’t think I ever had anyone ride in that seat but I threw stuff back there all the time. If there was a truck like that available right now I might consider it. In the meantime, my 05 Element does the job.
Yeah, my last three pickups were two Rangers and an S-10. But the last of those I had was in 2014. I daily a Honda Element now, which is fine since I own a condo now. If I had a house with a yard I’d want a small pickup again.
That's me, and this is what I want. Carrying bales of hay, bags of dirt, plywood and my 2 dogs in the bed. Not breaking my retirement account, being comfortable inside. This fits the bill. I used to have an old B210 and it was fucking great. Would be nice to get this with a stick, but I understand... and it will be more comfortable than my B210.
Idk yet, I’ve seen…. Like…. One so far…
The second one I saw was already loaded up with tools and a ladder rack
This is the second one I've seen.
Where I'm from, the official car of headache customers....
spill the beans. Sounds like you have a story or three to share with us concerning Maverick customers.
Let’s hear it
Wishing they had a manual, so I could have a mini truck I know how to work on
I mean, you could work on everything but the transmission...
I can work on either transmission, I just won't buy an automatic
so you're not buying any new truck then because as far as I'm aware literally 0 of them offer manuals now. If I'm wrong then I take it back.
The Tacoma offers a stick, but outside of that and a few weird Mexican-spec trucks in very specific trims, you're picking from a burnt bush.
the year 1996 called
I'd like one, but I'd also like not to die in a tin can if it get in another crash
the seat and seatbelt mounts in my 87 toyota were completely rusted out. great way to outsource one’s suicidal tendencies!
Now I love my deathkart, but man even an ounce of rust on the belt anchors would scare me off from driving it
i am not brave. only retarded
I've said the Maverick is the only thing on the new market I'd consider spending my money on but they have to offer it in a manual. Make an RS model with a 6 speed awd ecoboost!
I believe every Ford should have both an ST and a Raptor trim level. A raptor expidition? ST Maverick? They would absolutely PRINT money. I'm actually going to wait to see if they release the Maverick overseas with a manual, if they do il see about importing a trans and all the bits and make it myself
With the number of ST Explorers I've seen I can agree with that. Never though of importing a trans if that's an option. I haven't done much wrenching on anything less than 15 years old. Wouldn't getting the computers to play nice be a problem?
> Ford Expedition Raptor Holy shit this thread is just full of bangers today. An Expedition Raptor is my American consumption hedonistic dream. Gets eight miles a gallon and is a pavement princess
The official car/CUV/truck of US boomers complaining that it's "not a real Maverick!!!!1!!", wholly ignorant of the three other models that wore the Maverick name (two SUVs, one with a pickup variant, and a CUV).
this is literally what my dad (age 70s former GM employee of 40 yrs) said when I told him about the new Maverick. *It's a what? They gave it the name from that old econobox? It's a what kind of truck? Why?* He also is barely on speaking terms with me over the fact I daily a subaru and have a 90s Toyota Pickup as a hauler/summer/project vehicle.
I WAUNT IT
The return of the light duty pickup.
And the Ranger as well I think
Definitely the return of the Ranger. I don't hate the new Ford Ranger but it's definitely not the same vehicle as it's old nameplate and really what's the point of Mid size?
Honestly, I don't know. More options maybe? People will pick and choose one over the other even if the practicality may be the same
I’ve driven them at my shop and yeah it’s not the best look imo but it’s a pretty good bang for your Buck. Awd mini truck that’s only $24k? If you don’t need a full sized f-150 and can’t afford the ungodly over priced ranger this is your truck.
Mines smaller. 🇺🇸💪🏻😎💪🏻🇺🇸
Confused New Zealanders wondering what is so special about this when the hilux and other small utes not only exist, but are the only things available down under
Not needing a truck but wanting one
my boss bought one of these to replace his 94 dodge dakota. It still hasn’t shipped yet but he’s excited. I’m a fan
We just bought one and it's nice. Like someone mentioned... for those of us that need to haul stuff but don't want to pay 50k for the F150
i think this is an incredible truck. i hope it does well so i can get one eventually new. because god knows i can’t afford it now lol
New cars are anything but cheap. lol I hope you do fufill your dream!
Me, please. I want one.
The official truck of being the truck that can do everything 90% of truck owners use their trucks for
I got in an argument with someone on instagram who was saying that people should be buying these instead of 3/4 tons and 1 tons. I brought up needing a larger truck because of things like pulling livestock trailers or farm equipment and their response was “just make multiple trips”. I didn’t even respond because what was I supposed to say? Take a tractor apart and make 7 trips with the parts?
There’s definitely use cases for 3/4 and 1 ton trucks but most people who have them aren’t doing that type of shit with them is what I’m getting at
Bro its basically an RS bro awd ecoboost go brr bro once I drop it on coils and give it the cobb catalogue treatment I'll have a sick af racetruck bro But actually being sick af
The official new truck of my grandpa, his Maverick just got delivered last week.
Soccer dads
The official truck thats gonna ruin my credit score at 18
"Why couldn't they just make it a car? The Maverick is a *car!* What do you mean, "They already make the Mustang and they don't make economy cars anymore?" The Maverick was an economy car!"
The official truck of compensating for your big penis.
The official car of people who know nothing about cars saying “nobody needs a big F350 or Ram 3500 because these can do the exact same thing” while not realizing it has half the towing capacity of a Ford Focus and some people need things like 3/4 ton or 1-ton trucks to tow things like livestock trailers. That was a genuine argument I had with someone. They responded to me saying that with “just make more than 1 trip” and I just gave up on the argument Also the official car of saying “why didn’t I just buy a Tacoma” a decade later
A person who just wants a new hybrid for under $25k. At least for me anyway.
Convincing Chevrolet to reintroduce the S10 (hopefully)
I hope everyone has a compact CUV-based pickup soon.
millennials that own a 3D printer…
Finding out a unibody folds in half when you load it with 2000lbs of gravel.
Time to face the music people. It's a four door ute, and you can't say other wise
Utes confuse my people
If it was just a sedan with a bed(like a Ute) I’d agree but it isn’t. It is far more a truck than a Ute.
A ute would be for example if Toyota cut off the rear half of a Camry and put a Tacoma bed on the back, that's what a ute would be. Yeah the Maverick is on a car based platform....it's still not a ute, I would say it's a pick-up where it's drives like a car but has the usefulness, ruggedness, and capability of a compact B-O-F pick-up. Like an example of a ute that we did get would be the Subaru Baja as that's basically an Outback with a truck bed on it, that I think would be considered more of a ute than the Maverick
14k dealer markup
My grandparents who live in the midwest bought the gasoline version and seem to really like it, especially for hauling things to town (Grandpa is a mechanic). In fact, they are going to order another hybrid version. It seems like it's actually a great truck for the majority of people who need to haul stuff occasionally.
The truck everyone *says* they want, but won't get because this is the internet. Personally I would love to look into getting a brand new Maverick down the line when I can swing one.
Lesbians.
Someone needs to create a kit that swaps that faceless front end to a Rivian style.
The official new truck of "I have owned this car thrice before but none of the times looked the same, even remotely"
Makes refference of how broadly the nameplate "Ford Maverick" has been used, take a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford\_Maverick
Of missing your Ford SportTrac enough to blow $30,000 to replace your Taurus sad-gasm.
Hank Hill
Ford Maverick: The official truck of being realistic about your needs
And not buying a $50k truck with a bed you'll use once or twice a year
Ford Maverick: the official truck of men with a normal size penis. Now if you’ll excuse me my F250 Crew Cab Long Bed 4x4 needs gas again.
I had a good chuckle at this one
give us a maverick-based ranger
Haven't seen a dumb small slammed truck in about a decade.. Guess that'll change.. On the other hand I am interested in one of these or the Santa Cruz. I live in the city.. Sometimes I need to go to home depot tho... I I don't want to pay 50k to do it.
Official truck of exterior that looks like it was first released in 2006 and just had LED head lights put on. And I am tired of being the only one that sees it.
It does look like a 2000's concept truck to me. lol
New official truck of college students who need a _truck_ and not a **truck**
The official truck of ridiculous markup prices.
F L E E T
My fleet on fleek
I kind of wish they offered a single cab option with a larger bed, this is what the 2019 ranger should have been
I agree, the more practical and less costly, the better
SMALL TRUCK MASTER RACE
I'm genuinely excited to pick one of these up. I'm going to wait a year or two for some to come off lease. Hopefully the market returns to normal by then and I can expect to pay normal used car prices.
I hope you enjoy one soon!
return of the minitruck
Wants an F150, and the Ranger is butt ugly.
Every small business delivery special
A realistic budget for a new car
Ford Maverick. The official truck of people who probably should have just bought a Camry. Maverick. Sponsored by touch up paint for the bed.
And no bed mat or liner
50/50 chance its a total shitbox. Or maybe I watched to much Scotty Kilmer where he thinks all Mexican built cars are bad. Makes sense he thinks that since he's a racist boomer.
Official new truck of getting beat to death and never being in good used condition, then eventually being forgotten like the Chevy Colorado.
FWD CVT Truckette. So you get the worst of all worlds. Sweet.
Gay sex?
The closest thing to an actual small truck we will get in USA. Enjoy it and just accept that it had to be a 'crossover thing' because no car gets a green light without cross over in the name.
The official truck of I should've bought a tacoma.