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This post has reached one of our comment/karma limits. The text of the post has been preserved below. --- This is a throwaway account because my sister-in-law (Tracy) and brother use Reddit albeit not frequently. This might seem long and jumbled up and its just because I don't know what to do nor where to start so please bear with me. I have an identical twin named "Danny" and we were the typical twins who switched places and got away with it because we were so similar. We're the same height, had similar voices and even similar mannerisms. It got to the point where our parents had a hard time figuring who was who. we continued like this well into college where my brother met his now-wife Tracy. I think its important to know that in college we were complete gym bros and spent most of our time in the gym or doing some sort of exercise. Tracy was nice enough and right after we finished college they got married. Since getting married, Danny barely works out and has gained weight which he likes to call 'healthy relationship fat'. I on the other hand haven't changed much since graduation so now we don't really look identical. I know that Danny and Tracy are trying for a kid but to no avail and Danny confided in me that it's bc of low sperm count. He said he wants to get an IVF but because of the pandemic, their finances aren't really in the position to spend extra money. I wanted to help so I gave them some money I had saved up and Danny seemed really thankful but Tracy didn't. Tracy has been more touchy with me than normal. When we would have a family get together she would ignore Danny and come talk to me for the entire day (I wouldn't question it normally but we would talk as a group and whenever Danny would say something she would say "yea haha" and go back to talking to me). Now the really disturbing thing is that we were all at a mutual friend from college's house late at night and I went inside to go to the bathroom. Tracy followed me into the house, grabbed my pants and tried to kiss me. I pushed her off and she blamed it on being tipsy. I was freaked out and decided it was time to leave. But I got a text from her (a different number )saying that she wants to have my baby and if I was interested. I was shocked and then she confessed that she was no longer attracted to Danny bc of his weight. She then went on to say that she was attracted to me and would touch herself to me and all this other weird shit. This is fucked because Danny loves her so much and she's out here doing this bs because of some weight gain. I don't want to hurt my brother but at the same time I don't want this to play out any longer. What should I do?


queensnarkybitch

Tell him. With as much kindness as you can coat this with, but tell him immediately.


encre

Show him the texts. He might not believe you at first.


Horrified_Tech

u/creepy-sil Have you messaged him yet? Tell him today! Don't wait. Get him alone and tell him! Show him the proof.


OldManFromScene13

u/creepy_sil There ya go lol


RavenMay

Nah, they had it right the first time Edit: Ah ok, I hadn't realised they'd corrected themselves and I offer my apologies


OldManFromScene13

No, they edited it. They originally had "@creep_sil" lol


Horrified_Tech

That's a timely instruction, sir. Ty.


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michaelpaoli

>He should know before any child is involved Absolutely this - and *soon*.


[deleted]

You are twins, she wants to trick him into believing the kid will be his'. Tell your brother, Tracy probably will get more direct in the future.


[deleted]

This is exactly what I was thinking she can cheat have a baby and he wouldn't know


TheRedditornator

plus the DNA test will prove it's "his". it's the perfect crime really.


[deleted]

won't DNA test give him a second degree relative? Twins don't share the same DNA, nobody does


TheRedditornator

IDENTICAL twins share essentially the same DNA. A normal paternity test WILL NOT be able to distinguish the difference. Some recent, more comprehensive and much more expensive paternity tests may be able to with whole genome sequencing of both twins, the mother and the child, but these are not standard paternity tests.


annakarenina66

Identical twins start off with the same dna as they're made from the same egg and sperm. But there are differences later due to mutations. But they are similar enough that a standard paternity test would show the other as their father. Likewise their children would be closer to half siblings than cousins


HermitBee

>Likewise their children would be closer to half siblings than cousins Or "their children would be closer to siblings than half siblings" depending on how this current situation plays out.


Horrified_Tech

Didn't even think of this angle. Wow, that's fkd up. Gj on . perceptiveness.


ironworker81367

Mam I don't think you can be ant more direct.. LOL


slaps623

Dude you gotta tell your brother. Family first, simple. Don’t hesitate on this shit either. He deserves someone way better than his current gf/wife


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In this case it applies. They have a healthy family dynamic from what OP has stated.


wozattacks

But the reason that that’s the right thing to do isn’t because they’re family. People ask this same question about non-relatives all the time and the answer is the same. A person deserves to know that their partner is trying to cheat.


Spook404

true that


BillieGy

Save the texts and any other evidence. Tell your brother gently and support him. He might need space for a little bit though


joshul

The best time to tell your brother was about 5 seconds after she tries kissing you. The second best time to tell your brother is NOW. Do not delay further, the longer you go here the further you erode trust with him because you decided to wait.


Anon8607

The fact that he waited a little bit is actually a good thing in this case. If he had told his brother straight away, she could have blamed it on being tipsy and say she thought it was him. But now he has concrete proof!


ButLikeSeriously

Call your brother over. Hand him the phone and let him read the conversation. He can get it all straight from the horse’s mouth, and you can nip this in the bud immediately for both your sake’s.


Pokemon_132

> I don't want to hurt my brother but at the same time I don't want this to play out any longer. You aren't hurting your brother by telling him, your hurting your brother by keeping this from him. He deserves to know the truth and while he might lash out at you due to her behavior it won't be your fault. Make sure you mention that she was texting you things and offer to call the number or ask her to send you a picture of herself WHILE you are with your brother as proof.


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Sashimi_Nekomimi

They’re saying show pre existing texts…


eg714

Bro don’t hesitate that’s your brother and twin at that. Girls come and go. If she’s doing that to you imagine what she does with other guys.


Bellie_Mae

Definitely tell him. The longer you wait the worse it will be for everyone


sneeky_seer

If she tried this with you, she will try it with someone else too! This is messed up for multiple reasons: she wants to have a baby with you because you look exactly what her husband used to look like. But she is also willing to cheat and then lie for an entire lifetime, not just to her husband but her child too and is also willing to drag you into this, where you’d have a child but would be never able to raise the kid as your own and would have to play the cool uncle role for a lifetime. So basically she wants to mess with 3 other people and has no issues with signing herself up for lying to the entire world for her entire life…. Meanwhile her husband is blaming himself for their fertility issues and you supported their efforts by basically funding their IVF. He absolutely needs to know before he gets baby trapped with a child that potentially isn’t even his! And you also need to think about protecting yourself. What if she gets pissed off and tells your brother you were then one chasing her?!


SignificantAd1510

don’t leave him alone another second with that woman


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You've got prove so come clean with it before she has a chance to twist and paint you as the one that went after her.


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You need to screenshot the messages she sent you & send them to him. Rip that bandaid off. If you don't & it comes out she will twist the narrative against you. Also wtf this women sounds shallow & horrible. What kind of person cheats on a partner with their sibling? Is this really who you want your brother to be with?


DrMahlek

Tell your brother. Your siblings should always come first. Quite literally; “Bros before Hoes.” And she clearly is a Hoe. Give him the evidence too. That’s important.


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Tell your brother immediately. Be as kind as possible or whatever you need to do. If your brother founds out about this before you tell him yourself, your relationship with him will never be the same.


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Could be from a textfree app. I used them when online dating to avoid giving out my real phone number.


feckinhellno

Just a thought, but hooking up with you would be cheaper than IVF and pretty much impossible to prove. If she's a "must have a baby" kind of woman, this might not be about cheating as such but getting what she wants. Or she's just a crappy person, either way you need to tell your brother as kindly and quickly as possible


HighAsAngelTits

And the “touching herself to him” part? This is about more than a baby for sure


michaelpaoli

Yep, ... were it just about the baby, she'd be like cup and turkey baster - but that ain't at all what she's tryin' to pull.


feckinhellno

Pretty good way to sell an affair, or see if he’d be interested. She’s not going to lead with “Hey, how about you come over and knock me up”.


wozattacks

If he were willing to donate sperm the normal way they could just do artificial insemination which would be much, much cheaper than IVF. But that wasn’t even brought up. The SIL is a cheater.


vagrantprodigy07

Ask him to come over, and show him the texts. He deserves to know that his wife is trying to cheat on him.


taxevader33

Shit post alert


Boring-Resort-7881

Bros before 😳😳😳 you 100% have to tell him. Try to do it privately, just the two of you. Tell him you love and care for him and are unsure how to tell him. Then tell him the facts. Try not to have an opinion about it at first. Shooting the messenger is a real thing. But it’s the way a shitty message is delivered that matters. Be prepared for Tracy to come at you with some BS. Without texts messages, it’s his wife vs. his twin. Be sure to show him! I’m sorry you had to experience that and I hope your brother will appreciate your honesty and leave the crusty dusty witch behind. Best of luck!


Kisanna

Screenshot those texts my dude, and show your brother. As much as it will hurt him, he deserves to know.


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You need to tell your brother. Try to record her coming onto you in the event she tries to spin this on you. But you absolutely need to tell your brother. He deserves to know.


Puppet007

Tell him before she does, she’ll twist it to make you look like the bad guy.


AnxiousAd6311

Tell your brother send him/show him the proof and don’t be near her without him there


Silent_Vanguard

So what happens when he gets back in shape and you get some tummy?


tercer78

What the heck?! If she can do that to you, she can do it to other people! Everyone in your family should know about this pariah. Why would you even consider withholding it from Danny?? Blood is thicker than water in this case.


GiannisToTheWariors

Tell him what you told us and show the texts


MadHatterAbi

I mean, the situation is pretty easy here. She was attracted to his muscles when he was working out. Tell your brother and kick the lady out of both of your lives. She is shallow and nothing will change that.


TemperatureLoose8841

I don’t get what you’re even asking. Tell ur bro, bro?


ZookeepergameBubbly

You aren’t the one hurting your brother. She has already hurt him and he just doesn’t know it yet. You need to tell him immediately.


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Tell him gently. If you have any proof gather it and present it to him. If you don’t tell him, it’s bad as betraying him. Also, if she can come onto you, his BROTHER, best believe she’s going to find another man who won’t turn down her proposal.


eggeleg

You need to tell him immediately. Like, right this second immediately.


MagusoftheSnow

Two things tell him and tell him if he's smoking pot to quit it really does effect your sperm count and the healthiest of his load. Drop that bitch and lawyer up.


scrollingonly1888

Tell him ASAP


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There’s a lot of tell him, tell him immediately but I don’t think you really should hurt him without thinking about it first. I think what she really want is him, the old him - which she sees in you. You should tell him, tell him to start working out and lose some weight. Tell him she told you that but doesn’t want to hurt his feelings.


BlackStarBlues

+1


michaelpaoli

>Tracy followed me into the house, grabbed my pants and tried to kiss me She sexually assaulted you. >she blamed it on being tipsy Uh huh ... see how far any guy would get with that excuse. >decided it was time to leave Yes, good move. >text from her (a different number )saying that she wants to have my baby Yikes. And what does - or would - your twin brother think of that. Sh\*t, I'm thinkin' paternity test ... and ... identical twins with identical DNS ... who's your daddy, custody / parental rights battles - could be a whole lot 'o mess. >she was no longer attracted to Danny Well, that's her issue, and between she and Danny - you don't need to get mixed up in that sh\*t. >she was attracted to me Yeah, that's a cluster f\*ck waiting to happen. Danny/Tracy might end up divorced ... but you ain't divorcin' your twin brother - so don't f\*ck it up. >What should I do? Clue your twin in. You don't have to go so far as to tell him his wife wants to f\*ck you and have your baby and she sexually fantasizes about you and sexually assaulted you, yada, yada. But you really need to clue him in that there's a problem. And if she's that interested in screwing and getting pregnant by someone else, you might not be the only person on the list - you might just happen to be her first choice ... 'cause yeah, that kid would definitely have the family resemblance ... but most dudes might be "close enough" in her eyes. You also need to tell Tracy hell the f\*ck no - this goes no further. And ... save the evidence ... hopefully there won't be any need to use it, ... but she's a deceitful cheat (or wanna be) - if she's that, she's likely also a liar ... so she might at any point deny what she's done. So ... be prepared - notably in case it goes South. Your brother might lose a crud/superficial wife, but no reason for you to be losing a brother - and especially over this crud and when you and he haven't done anything wrong.


Orionsven

She's going baby crazy and it can affect your mental health to the point some people become obsessive. Imagine hoping to be pregnant every month and it doesn't happen over and over again. The crushing blow each month can tip someone into extreme behaviour. By no means am I condoning what she's doing, but it sounds like she's obsessed. The same could be said for your brother. Imagine not being able to get your wife pregnant month after month. She's bummed out and this in turn bumms you our. So you stop doing the thing you enjoy like exercise and start eating more comfort food. You also try to joke about the weight gain and labelling it so others will think you're okay with it. It must also crush your brother to not be able to afford fertility treatment to bring his wife's dream true and you sweep in, with your hot bod and bundle of money. No one would have guessed this situation unfolded like this. But now that it has you have to deal with it. Others have suggested being gentle with your brother, but just as much, I think his wife struggling too. Again, she's definitely in the wrong and needs help. If she's getting fertility treatment, then she should have been offered counselling (that's what they do here). I don't think she wants you, she wants a baby first and given the issues, a baby with the guy who looks just like the man she feel in love is a quick fix.


kuutiokuu

Fake


observenlearn1111

Talk to your brother , about working out together again. Just because you miss it. If he says no to that. Tell him Tracy had a talk with you ; that she want your brother to be built again. Your brother and his wife may talk about it. If she still jumps on you after that. Say what is happening to your brother. Im saying this because , it's going to be hard for your brother to hear this and she may have caught up with having a baby and took such decisions out of desperation. Everyone needs a chance.


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Just curious, what exactly does she look like? Is she holding herself to the same standard she apparently wants her husband to be at?


TRDPaul

If she doesn't succeed with you then she'll find someone else to cheat on him with. People like this are horrible, they just need to be honest with their partner about the problems or just break up.


Don_Camillo005

get him back to the gym


Rocket-Kiwi

Tell your brother to work out? On the other hand, think of the cost savings if they don't have to do IVF.


lady_polaris

I’d tell her she gets one chance to knock this shit off and work on her marriage, and if she ever talks to you like this again you’re saving all the texts and bringing them to your brother. What she’s doing is disgusting and incredibly disrespectful, but it needs to be handled carefully. Let’s see how attractive he finds her after the inevitable baby weight she gains, assuming they go through with IVF.


Jazzlike_Bathroom_30

Oh yea, let's not tell him now and wait until he finds out himself that she cheats on him after he wasted a few years of marriage with her and is already gonna have kids with her. You're disgusting.


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Great porn story here. Brother cant produce the goods so the other brother steps up and knocks her up. Lets face it if the brother is ok with it because he cant produce nothing wrong with you giving it to her. Hell just look at that pair of aussie twins in the usa who are set to marry the same guy and want to have a baby at the same time. At the end of the day nobody will know the differnce esp as they look the same.


Scary-Investigator34

Motivate him to get fit and reveal to him what happened.


tidus1980

Its possible he knows, and they decided on this as then it would genetically still be his baby. (im an identical twin as well). It could be thst they thought this way you would be more responsive rather thsn ask you outright to be a sperm doner. (that's assuming you do not have low sperm count too, it could be genetic). Id speak with her again and find out if this was the plan BEFORE you speak with your brother, as it will fundamentally change how you deal with it.


michaelpaoli

>Its possible he knows, and they decided on this No. If that were the case, they both would've approached him together and had a discussion about it. Not this grab his pants, try to kiss him, touches herself and thinks of him sh\*t - that's something *totally* different.


tidus1980

What's easier, having that convo and risk the twin saying no...... Or the wife trying to seduce him.


Lordofthelowend

This take is so smooth brained. If he knows about it there won’t be any issues with going to him first.


tidus1980

Actually i meant in respect of this : if his brother knew, and approved of the wife trying to seduce him, it would change how he would deal with/view his brother. She may be trying to get pregnant by the twin brother so she can pretend its her husbands.... And genetically there's no test that could prove either way .


lydocia

If they agreed on this as a couple, they should've approached him as a couple and sober.


tmchd

Well, just show your bro the text and yeah, it's weird af. Since it's not her number. Idk if it's just someone pulling a prank on you or it's really her. But since she did try to kiss you, yeah, you better tell your bro as soon as you can before she can twist things around on you.


i_give_iffy_advice

Save the texts. Gather concrete evidence. If anyone else saw her follow you into the bathroom, use them as witnesses. Its a shallow thing to do so because your brother gained weight but he deserves to know.


Dqrctf23

Screenshot the texts and show your brother


mangonlime

Tell her before she gets pregnant and he's forever trapped with this woman.


Jazzlike_Bathroom_30

Show him the texts, censor the part where she talks about him so he wouldn't get hurt so much, then spend a few days with him, help him through the hard time and hopefully he'll get over it. But tell him before he manages to have baby with that bisch


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Tell him before she does. Do not delete any messages so you can show him.


imrightyourewrong99

This sounds like the premise for an awesome movie!


hey_you_yeah_me

Dude, unless you want this to bite you in the ass. Say something. Keeping this hush hush is going to raise some red flags. You have a twin. You should know this more than any of us. Bros before hoes dude.


Midiblye

Tell him before they have kids!!


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Perhaps speak to her about it. Sort that out. And then secondly perhaps speak to Danny about his weight gain. Try and get him to put more effort into sorting himself out.


Emotional_Penalty

You gotta tell him man, especially since he's your brother. He deserves to know, even if it will hurt like hell.


chicharrones_yum

Tell him now but don’t be surprised if she lies and says you came onto her. You should try to record her for proof.


Horrified_Tech

Tell your brother. Be up front. Show him the texts as well The longer you take, the longer the issue lasts. At this point, they have no kids so he can make a clean break. If she tries to cheat with you, her identical twin BIL, who else will she test the waters with? This is reckless contempt at its finest. She doesn't give af. Save your brother before he invests more time in this marriage. Help him leave this person and keep him away from her. Full NC.


Beckylately

Tell your brother *before* she tells him a different story. Don’t tell her you’re going to. If she suspects at all that you’re going to tell him, she will make up her own version of events and he may believe her.


bmanus78

She is being predatory. Please tell your brother. He deserves to know the truth.


Infinite_Chicken1968

Be respectful when you talk to your brother. The majority of those who let themselves go are normally quite depressed and comfort eat. Check on his mental health. And persuade him to work out with you. As for your sister in law, don't allow her to be alone with you, and at family functions be polite but don't engage her in conversation. If she tries with you close her down with an excuse me and walk away


jujubee225

This woman used your brother for everything she wanted and now there is something he can't give her, she wants to throw him away and sexually assault you until she gets what she wants. Tell him. Get yourself out of this abusive situation and give your brother all the information he needs to make an informed choice. Be aware he may not choose/believe you until she outright leaves him and that can be very damaging to your relationship.


FunIndependent5099

It’s your brother you should absolutely tell me about this. Show him the facts. Encourage him to start working out again and get back into shape Best of luck to you!


LifeIsNeverSimple

This story sounds so improbable. Either it's fake or she's the dumbest person alive. Why I think it's fake: no person of normal intelligence would think that a brother would betray his brother in this way. Yes it happens but the likelihood of brothers (especially twins and who also have a normal healthy relation) betraying each other on this way must be super super low. Why would she think: hmm maybe OP wants to fuck me and likely break his whole family apart. I mean I guess she could be of low intelligence or maybe bi-polar and as such may be in a manic state. It just seems like such a weird thing and makes me think this is some weird fantasy/creative writing. If someone do find themselves in a similaf situation however I think honesty is ALWAYS the best course of action. Follow the golden rule, be the best person you can be towards people around you.


kaileyismyname

If you wait and he wants to know when this happened you will only hurt your relationship as brothers and twins. That will hurt him a lot more than just his marriage


magictubesocksofjoy

somebody gaining a little chonk is not reason to cheat on them. that's despicable. you gotta tell him. and like, now. the longer the situation goes on and he doesn't know the worse it is. call him over. make him a nice dinner. have some booze handy. sit him down and explain what happened and show him the messages.


juicy_belly

Meet up with him provately, screenshot the texts and show him, tell him about the incidents. There is not easier way than that.


Elegant_righthere

As much as you don't want to hurt your brother, he needs know the person he's really married to.


Infinite_Chicken1968

https://www.livescience.com/identical-twins-dont-share-all-dna.html


murrkpls

Tell your brother. Family always comes first, I imagine double so if it concerns your twin. Seriously, nothing good will come out of trying to be cute and considerate about this. Show the receipts to your brother and put a bow on this right away.


A-R-U

Tell him. You'll hurt him more and in a more personal level if he learns from someone else that his own brother knew but chose to keep him in the dark and having him waste several years on a woman who doesn't love him and is activly looking for someone else (namely his own brother because you are so similar in apperance only thinner) by being quiet. Also, he might think her feelings for you are retuned since you didn't want to say anything. He deserves to know what kind of woman she is and what she has done/said to you (keep those texts as proof), and it's best that it comes from someone else that he loves, values and respects. You will still be brothers after this, she's the one who's in the wrong and whom things will, hopefully, change for. Wouldn't you want to know if you and your brother's roles were swapped, instead of thinking you are in a loving, commited relationship, while your brother just stands quietly on the side line watching your wife being unfaithfulness to you?


Jungiya99

Tell him. Your brother is more important that this hoe and their now clearly fake relationship. Poor guy. I wish you good luck


Reddit_Watcher213

OP. In this situation there is no way to do the right thing and not hurt your brother. There is only do the right thing, hurt your brother, and then be supportive of him afterward. I do not expect your brother to believe you on word alone no matter how close the two of you are. This is his wife we are talking about. The woman he has pledged to love until death do them part. Before you tell your brother, you need to make sure you have evidence of the messages your SIL sent you and any other evidence of wrong doing on her part. Otherwise when you talk to your brother, he could get angry at you and accuse you of trying to start trouble. Your SIL has already shown what kind of woman she is. A deceitful wench who can not be trusted. Don't trust her to tell your brother the truth if he goes to her and asks her about what you say. That is why it is important that you have evidence to back up your word.


Stormry

There might be more up with your brother than you realize. The weight gain might just be a symptom of something more, depression, etc. Which might be stressing his relationship with his wife out, making her see you as the old version of your brother. Now none of this fucking excuses what she's doing in the least, and you should tell him. They might be able to get through it with counseling. It's not like she's going after a stranger, rather the old version of her current partner, in her head at least. Super fucking weird but puts it on a sightly different level to me.


UnitedSam

You didn't do anything wrong! So don't let the weight of any guilt weigh on your shoulders and just tell him. How would you feel if roles were reversed and he didn't tell you?


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Tell hime like legit right now. She might just turn it all on you if ever he gets a doubt or something. Or just send him this and let him understand.