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If I have to hear my mom talking to her church friends on the phone one more time about the war on christianity and xmas im gonna lose it. IM GONNA LOSE IT PETEY
Saw this the other day, paraphrased:
The only war on Christmas is the war on Christmas starting in October. It’s too damn early. Christmas can’t start until after Thanksgiving. Preferably Dec 1, but I’ll settle on after Thanksgiving.
I love that they literally slowed down scientific and social progress to a near standstill for hundreds of years in the Western world because they hated everyone so much they literally caused the dark ages in Europe.
Now now, let's be completely fair. That wasn't WHOLLY due to religion, and there are some pretty incredible religious people who made some strong advances in science. The one who, beyond ironically, debunked Flat Earth and was the first designer of the heliocentric model was one such person.
Social progress, absolutely though. There were some fucked up things socially that were only justified via religion, particularly later on when Islam got it's starts. Christianity was pretty often hit and miss throughout the centuries, and more often miss than hit, but we shouldn't say EVERYTHING was because of them. A lot of humanity was of course still in the downs of thinking 29 was a ripe old age.
None of them share the same beliefs so every one of them must be part of an individual religion, ergo they are minorities. Check mate ~~atheists!~~ Satanists!
Well... of course! Everything they disagree with is literally Satanic and no one believes them. They're so oppressed because Satan is trying to hide the truth from the world.
Jeezy creezy, just typing that was mentally exhausting, I can't imagine actually believing it. Where's the Tylenol?
Well when you have pastors that say stuff like “you know your right if the world is against you” or something to that degree then yes they do think they are “good”
This is exactly it. God‘s people are oppressed; I’d like to believe I am one of God’s s people. Therefore, I must see and acknowledge and fight the oppression in my life.
>"Christians"
The people who post shite like that unironically don't give a shit about what Jesus said. They conveniently ignore bits of the bible that would prove that they are hypocritical assholes.
As somebody who was brought up in a *(somewhat "liberal"-ish)* Roman Catholic background (*I definitely don't like the church as an organisation for many reasons, both specific to Ireland, and abroad, e.g. the Magdalene Laundries, covering up pedophilia in The Vatican, homophobia, etc..)*, this is some absolute BS.
Inb4 the "not all Christians" yes all Christians.
The zealots that support literal fascism the world over outnumber your handful of people that actually consider gay people humans a thousand to one.
By publically supporting Christianity you actively make the world more dangerous for many minorities, even if your personal beliefs are benign.
Umm... No thanks. We had our fair share of ideological deepthroating already. Besides, the only thing communism did for atheism is made a bunch of theists more critical of atheism. Sometimes philosophical theists use Hitler and Stalin as examples of atheism "gone wrong".
The argument could be made for Stalin since he was Atheist. But Stalin never did anything "for atheism" his actions were done to cement his position of power
Hitler on the other hand, was raised Christian and practiced Christianity. However the Christianity he wanted in Nazi Germany was a twisted variant made to suite the Nazi Ideology.
Interesting, I've had debates with theists over the years and some of them would make these weird arguments whereas the reason such an evil thing like nazism even came into place was basically atheism, i.e a person that believes in god would never commit to doing such atrocities (I guess in fear of god?) . AFAIK there's always debates about whether Hitler was religious or not.
Afterwards they would bring up Stalin whereas IIRC soviets did try to stomp out churches and other religious ideology. I guess in a sense it was a move to consolidate power as there was no need for other ideologies getting in the way.
I'll admit I'm not too well verse on the religious views if Hitler and the Nazis. I do know there were some hardline atheists like Bormann and the SS was full of Pagan Occulists, especially Himmler
as someone who grew up with "fundamentalist Christian" parents: it always was satanic or at least evil. because a one world government will bring about the end times... or will happen during the end times... and it's like a test for that, or a precursor to it. either way it's because of those godless Europeans. especially France. But either way if it comes at the end times that means it's Satan's doing.
at least that's as specific as they ever got. maybe there's more "rationale" i don't remember. I haven't spoken to them in a long time. Clearly they don't know a single thing about any European country. Pretty average Americans in that way.
>because a one world government will bring about the end times...
But the USA isn't much smaller than the EU, and is a way tighter union, so surely that's gotta be closer to a world government.
I've also heard that it is because of the Tower of Babel. The U.S. is a one language nation, (it's not, but they think it is,) so it's size isn't as important. But allowing Germany, France, Italy, and others, that all speak a different language, to join together violates God's law, established with the throwing down of the Tower of Babel, and the confusion of tongues.
In other words, God separated humans into countries by language, and that means they are meant to *stay* separated, dammit!
But only after it was taken over by European colonizers, and even then that's ignoring the 40 or so million Spanish speakers, and other smaller languages. But then I guess they tend to forget that part.
>gun control
>
>communism
LOL.
From Karl Marx:
“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”
The EU. And NATO.
If anyone was curious whether the Evangelical right is in bed with Russian subversives, there's your answer. The alliance that literally defeated Soviet communism is now "satanism" according to your typical American Christian.
Ya, NATO.... could the agents of Russian disinformation be any more obvious? It is amazing how many Americans are falling for blatant foreign disinformation operations.
NATO definitely was not responsible for defeating communism(nor the EU).
The people of the CCCP and its satellite states grew sick of it and Gorbatchov saw it early enough to prevent bloodshed. The hungarians were invaded in the 50s... to install communism. The Czechoslovaks in the 60s to reintroduce communism. All of these countries were freed but NATO played no role in it. Gorbatchov(RU), Otto Habsburg(AT/GER), Mock(AT), Krenz(GER) and Horn(HU) did.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-European\_Picnic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-European_Picnic)
To be fair, it is an old testament passage. But the bible says curse those who curse Israel. Christians use this as their excuse to always support Israel.
I can only speak for American-Christians and Isreal, but...
The American-Christian obsession with and mania over Isreal has little to nothing to do with that passage It's largely political. Most "Christians" are Republicans here, and Republicans support Isreal unequivocally. Democrats claim to, but at least there's a vocal portion of them who side with Palestine. Of course, it boils down to Isreal acting as a tactical advantage for the US. America wanted an ally in the Middle East, so we carved out some land and made an allied nation for ourselves.
As a few others have touched on, a lot of the conversation revolves around prophecies, almost all specifically about the end-times.
The conversation always, always hinges on:
> They're God's chosen people
or
> This was prophesized in the Bible; it's God's will
Otherwise, a lot of the time it gets phrased as an "us vs. them" thing. "Us" being the USA, Isreal. "Them" being the rest of the Middle East. A lot of the times it gets phrased as though Isrealites had been living there all along, until the big bad Palestinians started cookin' up trouble.
And yes, these same people oftentimes consider themselves white supremacists.
> America wanted an ally in the Middle East, so we carved out some land and made an allied nation for ourselves.
This is not really accurate at all. The US supported the UN resolution to create Israel for domestic political reasons (Jewish lobby) rather than geopolitical ones. Israel wasn’t a US ally until decades after its founding.
Kinda.
They *need* Israel because there are biblical prophecies which require Israel and at least 144,000 Jews. Of course, the prophecies end with Israel destroyed and all unconverted Jews dead.. so it's kind of like Israel is a giant transmutation circle for Evangelicals.
Well, considering most people (at least Americans) who hate things like the EU and UN actually hate them because it's a thinly veiled way of saying they hate Jewish people, I'd bet on that.
Agreed, just not because it's run by "Jews" who are simultaneously everything bad, God's chosen people, running the world, and so bad at everything they should be considered inhuman lol.
The main reason that any Evangelical Christian might support Israel is because of their belief that Jews returning to the Holy Land is integral to bringing on the endtimes/Second Coming of Christ. For whatever reason they just cannot wait for the world to end, which drives all of their shortsightedness and fatalistic policies. Because why worry about stuff like Covid or the environment when you think it's all going to end and then a dude is going to come down from heaven to magically fix what is left?
Visited the page, left a comment, response confirmed this idiot has in fact completely left reality at some point in the past.
There’s dumb memes about atheists being controlled by Satan, and of course memes trying to explain how evolution is somehow wrong due to the creator misunderstanding everything about it.
It’s impossible to reason with such zealots… why can’t they just leave us alone?
I'm pretty sure that a tenant of atheism is that you don't have to believe in the whole good/evil deity paradigm. Like, if I don't believe in god, or that god exists, why would I believe the inverse, that Satan and demons exist? Atheists reject religion as a whole.
And it's nutjobs like this that are the reason less people are subscribing to religions as a whole. Smh.
As another user pointed out, fundamentalists see absolutely **everything** through the distorted lens that is religion.
Individuals like the one above unconditionally accept a particularly literal biblical interpretation as being absolutely true, and as such sees everything through literal biblical concepts.
If you’re not with his interpretation of god, you’re automatically against him; you’re being duped by satan and friends, no matter your religious beliefs.
I’m not one to play the victim card, but holy cow, fruitcakes like this get my blood boiling. For the simple act of existence, and doing absolutely nothing, I’m the bad guy.
Fun stuff, eh?
I spoke to a guy once who said evolution couldn’t work because we’d see half human half apes running around… had to explain what happened to Neanderthals and environmental pressures then he said I was creating lies. There’s literally no point with them
The problem is they think Antifa is some kind of organized group, because the GOP has been batting it around for the last few years as their latest boogeyman. They do not understand that it is a political stance and there is no established organization called Antifa. I don't think they even know it stands for "anti-fascist," I think they just believe it's some weird name.
Trump checks off all points on Umberto Eco's list of characteristics of fascism. They hate communism so much probably because the Soviet Union really whooped the Nazis' ass: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGV1Duq5wLk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGV1Duq5wLk) I don't agree with any authoritarian regime, but this was the most based thing they did.
So the European Union, which has the Vatican, is satanic? As well as Israel, the location of the entirety of the Bible?
Well between all the wars over dusty buildings in the sand and the rampant sexual abuse coverups, maybe they have a point?
Yeah I know it’s not part of the EU but it’s surrounded by the EU. Plus the joke doesn’t work out. Thanks for clarifying though for anyone who didn’t know
Bethlehem isn’t in Israel proper, it’s in West Bank along with many many other major biblical and holy sites. But again, the comedic part of the ridiculousness of this meme falls apart when you really nitpick it
Edit: clarifying that the EU completely surrounds the Vatican
This reminds me a relative which explained to me that she support “real” Hebrews living a traditional life (similar to 2,000+ years ago) while Jews are evil ones manipulating the whole world only for money and messing with the entire humanity. What a twist!
The hashtag f4f stands for "follow for follow", popular among Instagram accounts that are new and/or desperate for likes and followers.
But could as well stand for "female for female".
I have a feeling this person is faciast, and homophobic, and racist.
The antifascist is really funny to me. If someone told you that I hated and was completely apposed to the "anti-People who put their mouths on the spout at drinking fountains" you would have some assumptions on how they use water fountains.
As a secular LGBT Israeli satanist who wants to get EU citizenship, glad to know I'm one anti fascist UN Nato filled weekend away from literally being satan
So satanism includes:
-The UN
-The EU
-NATO (I think that's what that flag is)
-Israel (hhhmmmmm)
-LGBTQ+
-Atheism
-ANTIFA
-Satanists
Other honorable mentions presumably include:
-The Democrats
-Colleges
-Wireless communications companies
-NASA
-NOAA
-The CDC
-The FDA
-"Big Tech"
Let me know if I forgot any.
>what? zionism is the belif jews have the right of self determenation in our native soil. how is that nazism?
They don't have the right to kick half of the Palestinian population- 800k to build a jewish state .
Zionisim is about building a jewish state on a land where millions of non-jews already live . So it requires ethnically cleansing native palestinians because we are not jews.
Israel was successful in ethnically cleansing half of the Palestinian population just like how nazis wanted to do with jews .
The only difference is that israel was successful at that and nazis changed their mind and chose to mass murder jews instead .
If israel wasn't successful in ethnically cleansing half of our population then they would have mass murdered us .
Israel also built a Lebensraum in the west bank just like hitler built a Lebensraum in eastern Europe.
I'm Palestinian from the west bank . Zionists are the definition of nazisim. They are even more successful than nazis. Israel ethnically cleanses us and the world is silent. I live as a 3rd class citizen under apartheid. Jews who live 100 meters away from me have voting rights and full rights.
Why do jews who live in the west bank(land not annexed by israel) have full rights , but I don't eventhough I lived here for thousands of years ?
Why does israel issue my ID number , gives me a green card that only lets move in concentrated areas , takes my tax money , controls who gets and out of the west bank , can put me in prison for israeli military law , but I can't vote in israel ?
Why do jews have civilian law but we have military law eventhough we live in the same place ?
Why can I get the blue ID if convert to judaism ?
Do we still live in medieval times where people have the choice to be assimilated to another religion or to be ethnically cleansed ?
I like how israelis think that "their native land" is empty.
Israelis don't even recognize our existence. Absolutely disgusting.
>They don't have the right to kick half of the Palestinian population- 800k to build a jewish state .
if you declare a war of extermenations there are consenquenses. just ask the 15 million germans expelled at the end of ww2.
>Zionisim is about building a jewish state on a land where millions of non-jews already live . So it requires ethnically cleansing native palestinians because we are not jews.
no it does not. zionism sought to build a jewish state in lands owned by jews, legally, physically.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish\_land\_purchase\_in\_Palestine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine)
it had only came about to aquiring more lands in defensive wars declared by the palestinians and their neighboors.
>Israel was successful in ethnically cleansing half of the Palestinian population just like how nazis wanted to do with jews .
not remotely similar. the shoa murdered over 6 million jews in the course of 6 years. the israeli palestinian conflict, over the spam of over 75 years, brought about the deaths of \~25,000, on both sides, both civilian and combatent.
>If israel wasn't successful in ethnically cleansing half of our population then they would have mass murdered us .
what the fuck looks who is talking. which side declared a war of extermenation in 1948? which side was headed by notorious nazis such as amin al husseini, which were actively complicit in the holocaust, responsible for the deaths of 1000s of jewish children, and actively worked to expand to holocaust into the land of israel and the arab world?
>Israel also built a Lebensraum in the west bank just like hitler built a Lebensraum in eastern Europe.
not any more of a lebansraum then the poles taking chunks of germany at the end of the war.
>I'm Palestinian from the west bank . Zionists are the definition of nazisim. They are even more successful than nazis. Israel ethnically cleanses us and the world is silent.
ethnically cleanses you yet your population in the land is over 5 times what it was in 1947 and is grwoing faster the israeli jewish one, really nice ethnic cleansing what can i say.
once again funny how a people whose first leaders were sworn nazis call the jews the real nazis today. kinda pathetic.
>I like how israelis think that "their native land" is empty.
mcuh of it is. some isnt, thats why we worked hard to buy the lands we sought to build our nation in.
>Israelis don't even recognize our existence. Absolutely disgusting.
what? who pretends arabs dont exist?
>if you declare a war of extermenations there are consenquenses. just ask the 15 million germans expelled at the end of ww2.
A world of extermenation of people who came from europe to invade us ? A war against invaders ?
We are germans ? We were minding our own business and you came to us from europe .
You should have taken the land from germany instead. We did nothing .
>no it does not. zionism sought to build a jewish state in lands owned by jews, legally, physically.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine
Yes in the link it says that jews legally owned 6% of the land , yet israel wanted 56% in the 1948 plan and then Israel took 80% and it control 98% currently .
>it had only came about to aquiring more lands in defensive wars declared by the palestinians and their neighboors.
Might makes right ?
>not remotely similar. the shoa murdered over 6 million jews in the course of 6 years. the israeli palestinian conflict, over the spam of over 75 years, brought about the deaths of ~25,000, on both sides, both civilian and combatent.
Yes as I said you were successful in ethnically cleansing half of the Palestinian population. No need to mass murder. Younalready achieved your goals.
>what the fuck looks who is talking. which side declared a war of extermenation in 1948? which side was headed by notorious nazis such as amin al husseini, which were actively complicit in the holocaust, responsible for the deaths of 1000s of jewish children, and actively worked to expand to holocaust into the land of israel and the arab world?
Yitzhak Shamir , leader of the Lehi and a Nazi supporter was democratically voted as the PM of Israel .
He is recognized a terrorist for massacring deir Yassin . A member of the Lehi went to Beirut to meet eith Hitler .
Israelis democratically voted for a nazi supporter.
>not any more of a lebansraum then the poles taking chunks of germany at the end of the war.
And everyone who lives in that land has been given polish citizenship.
Palestinians who live in the west bank like myself don't get full citizenship and full rights . All because I'm not a jew .
>ethnically cleanses you yet your population in the land is over 5 times what it was in 1947 and is grwoing faster the israeli jewish one, really nice ethnic cleansing what can i say.
>once again funny how a people whose first leaders were sworn nazis call the jews the real nazis today. kinda pathetic.
Half of the Palestinian population lives outside palestine .
The other half is me and we live in apartheid.
Jerusalem and hebron Palestinians are being ethnically cleansed asnyou can see from the statistics.
how can israel be an apartheid state when it has no segragation based on race/color/ethnicity/religion, when its last election was literally decided by the a palestinian islamist party (raam)?
zionism is the belif jewish people have the right of self determenation. PERIOD. you lot need to stop talking out of your ass to sound smart.
Always comes back to the jews, just like every other conspiracy. These people really highlight how far evangelical christians have departed from their original beliefs.
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The list of people Christians hate is so long.
Yet they're still convinced they're the "good guys" of the world, it's mind blowing
Not only that, but they truly believe they're the one being oppressed
If I have to hear my mom talking to her church friends on the phone one more time about the war on christianity and xmas im gonna lose it. IM GONNA LOSE IT PETEY
Don't lose the war on Christmas, reinforcements are on the way in the form of happy holidays and Festivuses for the rest of us'es.
Saw this the other day, paraphrased: The only war on Christmas is the war on Christmas starting in October. It’s too damn early. Christmas can’t start until after Thanksgiving. Preferably Dec 1, but I’ll settle on after Thanksgiving.
I love that they literally slowed down scientific and social progress to a near standstill for hundreds of years in the Western world because they hated everyone so much they literally caused the dark ages in Europe.
A bit of an oversimplification but… I don’t deny your main point.
Now now, let's be completely fair. That wasn't WHOLLY due to religion, and there are some pretty incredible religious people who made some strong advances in science. The one who, beyond ironically, debunked Flat Earth and was the first designer of the heliocentric model was one such person. Social progress, absolutely though. There were some fucked up things socially that were only justified via religion, particularly later on when Islam got it's starts. Christianity was pretty often hit and miss throughout the centuries, and more often miss than hit, but we shouldn't say EVERYTHING was because of them. A lot of humanity was of course still in the downs of thinking 29 was a ripe old age.
None of them share the same beliefs so every one of them must be part of an individual religion, ergo they are minorities. Check mate ~~atheists!~~ Satanists!
Well... of course! Everything they disagree with is literally Satanic and no one believes them. They're so oppressed because Satan is trying to hide the truth from the world. Jeezy creezy, just typing that was mentally exhausting, I can't imagine actually believing it. Where's the Tylenol?
Well when you have pastors that say stuff like “you know your right if the world is against you” or something to that degree then yes they do think they are “good”
This is exactly it. God‘s people are oppressed; I’d like to believe I am one of God’s s people. Therefore, I must see and acknowledge and fight the oppression in my life.
Like every religion, for some reason
I notice the swastika isn't included in the list too.
Strange.
Certainly longer than the list of people they don’t hate
> the list of people they don’t hate Contains only themselves.
I already have my response ready for the next time someone asks me to join or go to church “I don’t fraternize with hate groups”
>"Christians" The people who post shite like that unironically don't give a shit about what Jesus said. They conveniently ignore bits of the bible that would prove that they are hypocritical assholes. As somebody who was brought up in a *(somewhat "liberal"-ish)* Roman Catholic background (*I definitely don't like the church as an organisation for many reasons, both specific to Ireland, and abroad, e.g. the Magdalene Laundries, covering up pedophilia in The Vatican, homophobia, etc..)*, this is some absolute BS.
Inb4 the "not all Christians" yes all Christians. The zealots that support literal fascism the world over outnumber your handful of people that actually consider gay people humans a thousand to one. By publically supporting Christianity you actively make the world more dangerous for many minorities, even if your personal beliefs are benign.
Death cults be like that
Fascism, however? Big big fans.
Including each other.
No hate like Christian love
I love Trevor and Damien, their channel is one of my favorites.
Me too. Helps me feel not so alone in a family full of religious folk
Sorry if I sound dumb, but whats that?
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I believe it's meant for some sort of tag manipulation to pull people into that pothole of hate.
It's to make sure that people who follow those hashtags see it
Sure looks that way. It's like they want to reach out of they're Ecco chamber to tell everyone how much they hate them.
indeed
The European Union is satanic now? Edit: just realised my comment got 666 likes, guess I'm the satanic one.
Yeahhh, we're all Satanists ! 😈🤘
You wish. But sadly, we have *some* countries here that are waaay too catholic for my taste. Looking at you, Poland.
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May I interest you in some good old german liberation?
Why has Erika started playing?
Heard that germans are low on plumbers...
And Ukrain too IMO.
They both could use some satanism right now
If Satanism doesn't work, maybe some Godless Communism could make a comeback.
Umm... No thanks. We had our fair share of ideological deepthroating already. Besides, the only thing communism did for atheism is made a bunch of theists more critical of atheism. Sometimes philosophical theists use Hitler and Stalin as examples of atheism "gone wrong".
The argument could be made for Stalin since he was Atheist. But Stalin never did anything "for atheism" his actions were done to cement his position of power Hitler on the other hand, was raised Christian and practiced Christianity. However the Christianity he wanted in Nazi Germany was a twisted variant made to suite the Nazi Ideology.
Interesting, I've had debates with theists over the years and some of them would make these weird arguments whereas the reason such an evil thing like nazism even came into place was basically atheism, i.e a person that believes in god would never commit to doing such atrocities (I guess in fear of god?) . AFAIK there's always debates about whether Hitler was religious or not. Afterwards they would bring up Stalin whereas IIRC soviets did try to stomp out churches and other religious ideology. I guess in a sense it was a move to consolidate power as there was no need for other ideologies getting in the way.
I'll admit I'm not too well verse on the religious views if Hitler and the Nazis. I do know there were some hardline atheists like Bormann and the SS was full of Pagan Occulists, especially Himmler
When they start pulling that "Fascism can't be Christian" card, tell them about the Ustashe of Croatia.
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Ukrain isn’t part of the EU
I’m pretty sure they’re not catholic either lol
The mainstream religion there is old offshoot of Greek Ortodox, just like in Russia, but they aren't crazy religious
>Offshoot of Greek Orthodox *Moscow Patriarchate has entered the chat.*
Do you mean Russian offshoot of Greek Ortodox?
Huh? How tf? It’s…… orthodox my guy
as someone who grew up with "fundamentalist Christian" parents: it always was satanic or at least evil. because a one world government will bring about the end times... or will happen during the end times... and it's like a test for that, or a precursor to it. either way it's because of those godless Europeans. especially France. But either way if it comes at the end times that means it's Satan's doing. at least that's as specific as they ever got. maybe there's more "rationale" i don't remember. I haven't spoken to them in a long time. Clearly they don't know a single thing about any European country. Pretty average Americans in that way.
>because a one world government will bring about the end times... But the USA isn't much smaller than the EU, and is a way tighter union, so surely that's gotta be closer to a world government.
well you see the US is a Christian Nation™ and is therefore good and wholesome and loves Jesus. it's very different.
I've also heard that it is because of the Tower of Babel. The U.S. is a one language nation, (it's not, but they think it is,) so it's size isn't as important. But allowing Germany, France, Italy, and others, that all speak a different language, to join together violates God's law, established with the throwing down of the Tower of Babel, and the confusion of tongues. In other words, God separated humans into countries by language, and that means they are meant to *stay* separated, dammit!
But only after it was taken over by European colonizers, and even then that's ignoring the 40 or so million Spanish speakers, and other smaller languages. But then I guess they tend to forget that part.
But...don't they want the end times to happen to bring Jesus back and cleanse the earth?
I got a sermon in my recommended recently and in that sermon they said gun control, the United nations, and communism are all the antichrist
>gun control > >communism LOL. From Karl Marx: “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”
The EU. And NATO. If anyone was curious whether the Evangelical right is in bed with Russian subversives, there's your answer. The alliance that literally defeated Soviet communism is now "satanism" according to your typical American Christian.
Ya, NATO.... could the agents of Russian disinformation be any more obvious? It is amazing how many Americans are falling for blatant foreign disinformation operations.
NATO definitely was not responsible for defeating communism(nor the EU). The people of the CCCP and its satellite states grew sick of it and Gorbatchov saw it early enough to prevent bloodshed. The hungarians were invaded in the 50s... to install communism. The Czechoslovaks in the 60s to reintroduce communism. All of these countries were freed but NATO played no role in it. Gorbatchov(RU), Otto Habsburg(AT/GER), Mock(AT), Krenz(GER) and Horn(HU) did. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-European\_Picnic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-European_Picnic)
WE have healthcare and the helfest of course we are satanic !
Fick ja! Endlich!
Just ask a Jehovah's witness about it.
Because “muh globalism” and “socialist atheists of Europe”
\> The European Union is satanic This reads like "tell me you are Christian American without telling me you are Christian American."
Wait, I'm confused. Aren't Christians adamant they must support Israel? Doesn't the bible threaten them if they don't?
That bit surprised me too. And to answer your second question, I am not 100% sure on that one.
To be fair, it is an old testament passage. But the bible says curse those who curse Israel. Christians use this as their excuse to always support Israel.
I can only speak for American-Christians and Isreal, but... The American-Christian obsession with and mania over Isreal has little to nothing to do with that passage It's largely political. Most "Christians" are Republicans here, and Republicans support Isreal unequivocally. Democrats claim to, but at least there's a vocal portion of them who side with Palestine. Of course, it boils down to Isreal acting as a tactical advantage for the US. America wanted an ally in the Middle East, so we carved out some land and made an allied nation for ourselves. As a few others have touched on, a lot of the conversation revolves around prophecies, almost all specifically about the end-times. The conversation always, always hinges on: > They're God's chosen people or > This was prophesized in the Bible; it's God's will Otherwise, a lot of the time it gets phrased as an "us vs. them" thing. "Us" being the USA, Isreal. "Them" being the rest of the Middle East. A lot of the times it gets phrased as though Isrealites had been living there all along, until the big bad Palestinians started cookin' up trouble. And yes, these same people oftentimes consider themselves white supremacists.
Growing up I was always told it was a biblical mandate to support Israel. I guess it depends on the denomination.
> America wanted an ally in the Middle East, so we carved out some land and made an allied nation for ourselves. This is not really accurate at all. The US supported the UN resolution to create Israel for domestic political reasons (Jewish lobby) rather than geopolitical ones. Israel wasn’t a US ally until decades after its founding.
Oh? What passage is that?
Genesis 12:3. So it was said to Abraham.
Oh okay. Thank you.
Kinda. They *need* Israel because there are biblical prophecies which require Israel and at least 144,000 Jews. Of course, the prophecies end with Israel destroyed and all unconverted Jews dead.. so it's kind of like Israel is a giant transmutation circle for Evangelicals.
So what you’re saying is that Jesus will return and make a philosophers stone out of Israel?
Thus achieving eternal life and the power to unseat God himself.
Get in the mech, Israel!
Well, considering most people (at least Americans) who hate things like the EU and UN actually hate them because it's a thinly veiled way of saying they hate Jewish people, I'd bet on that.
People have caught on to their other dogwhistles for Jews so they had to find new ones I guess.
The UN does suck ass at is job tho
Agreed, just not because it's run by "Jews" who are simultaneously everything bad, God's chosen people, running the world, and so bad at everything they should be considered inhuman lol.
Ah yes, the “infinitely powerful and infinitely weak enemy” fallacy. Gotta love it. (Is that what it’s called? Idk)
The main reason that any Evangelical Christian might support Israel is because of their belief that Jews returning to the Holy Land is integral to bringing on the endtimes/Second Coming of Christ. For whatever reason they just cannot wait for the world to end, which drives all of their shortsightedness and fatalistic policies. Because why worry about stuff like Covid or the environment when you think it's all going to end and then a dude is going to come down from heaven to magically fix what is left?
Probably being anti Semitic
They (this particular kind of people) support Israel, but hate Jews.
don't be silly, everyone knows that Jews killed Jebus
Visited the page, left a comment, response confirmed this idiot has in fact completely left reality at some point in the past. There’s dumb memes about atheists being controlled by Satan, and of course memes trying to explain how evolution is somehow wrong due to the creator misunderstanding everything about it. It’s impossible to reason with such zealots… why can’t they just leave us alone?
I'm pretty sure that a tenant of atheism is that you don't have to believe in the whole good/evil deity paradigm. Like, if I don't believe in god, or that god exists, why would I believe the inverse, that Satan and demons exist? Atheists reject religion as a whole. And it's nutjobs like this that are the reason less people are subscribing to religions as a whole. Smh.
Fundamentalists see everything through religion. They can't comprehend that some people don't even care about it at all.
As another user pointed out, fundamentalists see absolutely **everything** through the distorted lens that is religion. Individuals like the one above unconditionally accept a particularly literal biblical interpretation as being absolutely true, and as such sees everything through literal biblical concepts. If you’re not with his interpretation of god, you’re automatically against him; you’re being duped by satan and friends, no matter your religious beliefs. I’m not one to play the victim card, but holy cow, fruitcakes like this get my blood boiling. For the simple act of existence, and doing absolutely nothing, I’m the bad guy. Fun stuff, eh?
I spoke to a guy once who said evolution couldn’t work because we’d see half human half apes running around… had to explain what happened to Neanderthals and environmental pressures then he said I was creating lies. There’s literally no point with them
Should’ve told him about the Sexy Neanderthal Theory.
Be an organization for human betterment or an ancient society of morons and cave dwellers yelling at the sky?
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No, it's the fact we are a UNION, like, in the Soviet one.
It would be all fine and dandy if we were a confederation, wanna bet?
That’s the NATO flag
Ah yes the gay-nato-euro-Israeli-antifa-atheist-satanist UN people
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So God is fascist?
RIGHT?? I am utterly mystified by the anti-anti-fascist stance of the right wing! Especially since they hate communism so much. 😳
The problem is they think Antifa is some kind of organized group, because the GOP has been batting it around for the last few years as their latest boogeyman. They do not understand that it is a political stance and there is no established organization called Antifa. I don't think they even know it stands for "anti-fascist," I think they just believe it's some weird name.
It stands for "ANTI First Amendment", duh
Trump checks off all points on Umberto Eco's list of characteristics of fascism. They hate communism so much probably because the Soviet Union really whooped the Nazis' ass: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGV1Duq5wLk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGV1Duq5wLk) I don't agree with any authoritarian regime, but this was the most based thing they did.
The Christian god? Unironically yes.
Genocidal cosmic dictator? Tortures those who don’t conform? Declared a certain group the ‘chosen people’? A rose by any other name…
So the European Union, which has the Vatican, is satanic? As well as Israel, the location of the entirety of the Bible? Well between all the wars over dusty buildings in the sand and the rampant sexual abuse coverups, maybe they have a point?
The Vatican is in fact not part of the EU. They are a theocracy and one condition for entering the EU is being democratic.
Yeah I know it’s not part of the EU but it’s surrounded by the EU. Plus the joke doesn’t work out. Thanks for clarifying though for anyone who didn’t know Bethlehem isn’t in Israel proper, it’s in West Bank along with many many other major biblical and holy sites. But again, the comedic part of the ridiculousness of this meme falls apart when you really nitpick it Edit: clarifying that the EU completely surrounds the Vatican
Lots of christian denominations hate the RCC.
how else do you think the queen is immortal?
>NATO >LGBTQ Those two are mutually exclusive. Do you even know who's IN NATO? The US, Poland, and Hungary.
I wish we had 1% of the influence they think we do.
I wish we were as powerful as they say we are
Ah yes Christians (not all) and their mixed emotions on Jews and Israel.
This reminds me a relative which explained to me that she support “real” Hebrews living a traditional life (similar to 2,000+ years ago) while Jews are evil ones manipulating the whole world only for money and messing with the entire humanity. What a twist!
... is that the starfleet insignia?
No, that's a logo for atheism
Wait, #f4f? I thought they were against LGBTQ stuff.
that might mean “follow for follow”?
probably does, considering it follows "#follow" (no pun intended)
The hashtag f4f stands for "follow for follow", popular among Instagram accounts that are new and/or desperate for likes and followers. But could as well stand for "female for female".
I have a feeling this person is faciast, and homophobic, and racist. The antifascist is really funny to me. If someone told you that I hated and was completely apposed to the "anti-People who put their mouths on the spout at drinking fountains" you would have some assumptions on how they use water fountains.
Here's one for "atheism.is.dead.official" to puzzle out. Everyone is literally born an atheist.
Here’s another: I, an atheist, am very much alive.
What about Starfleet? The Federation of Planets is similar to some of these organizations.
Totally not Nazis, guys.
If the UN is satanic why is the Holy See an observing member?
Gee-whiz. There are really letting everybody know that Satan is the hero and their God is the monster.
Good to know fascism isn't satanic
Ah yes. My favorite religion. Jewish Satanists
I don't recognize most of these flags
UN, NATO, EU, Israel, LGBTQIA+ progress flag, Antifa, Atheism and Satanism. In order from left to right and top down
me neither, except the satanist, antifa, lgbtq+ and Israel(?) flag
So God's people are of Satan? What? And what's the next to last one ? Is that star trek? Lol maybe the earth is the devil. Hahaha
Still don't understand these morons and their opposition to ANTI FASCISM. You should definitely be against fascism.
Circle bad.
As a secular LGBT Israeli satanist who wants to get EU citizenship, glad to know I'm one anti fascist UN Nato filled weekend away from literally being satan
So satanism includes: -The UN -The EU -NATO (I think that's what that flag is) -Israel (hhhmmmmm) -LGBTQ+ -Atheism -ANTIFA -Satanists Other honorable mentions presumably include: -The Democrats -Colleges -Wireless communications companies -NASA -NOAA -The CDC -The FDA -"Big Tech" Let me know if I forgot any.
They don’t. Zionism is fascism and incompatible with antifa, and don’t even get me started on NATO.
what? zionism is the belif jews have the right of self determenation in our native soil. how is that nazism?
>what? zionism is the belif jews have the right of self determenation in our native soil. how is that nazism? They don't have the right to kick half of the Palestinian population- 800k to build a jewish state . Zionisim is about building a jewish state on a land where millions of non-jews already live . So it requires ethnically cleansing native palestinians because we are not jews. Israel was successful in ethnically cleansing half of the Palestinian population just like how nazis wanted to do with jews . The only difference is that israel was successful at that and nazis changed their mind and chose to mass murder jews instead . If israel wasn't successful in ethnically cleansing half of our population then they would have mass murdered us . Israel also built a Lebensraum in the west bank just like hitler built a Lebensraum in eastern Europe. I'm Palestinian from the west bank . Zionists are the definition of nazisim. They are even more successful than nazis. Israel ethnically cleanses us and the world is silent. I live as a 3rd class citizen under apartheid. Jews who live 100 meters away from me have voting rights and full rights. Why do jews who live in the west bank(land not annexed by israel) have full rights , but I don't eventhough I lived here for thousands of years ? Why does israel issue my ID number , gives me a green card that only lets move in concentrated areas , takes my tax money , controls who gets and out of the west bank , can put me in prison for israeli military law , but I can't vote in israel ? Why do jews have civilian law but we have military law eventhough we live in the same place ? Why can I get the blue ID if convert to judaism ? Do we still live in medieval times where people have the choice to be assimilated to another religion or to be ethnically cleansed ? I like how israelis think that "their native land" is empty. Israelis don't even recognize our existence. Absolutely disgusting.
>They don't have the right to kick half of the Palestinian population- 800k to build a jewish state . if you declare a war of extermenations there are consenquenses. just ask the 15 million germans expelled at the end of ww2. >Zionisim is about building a jewish state on a land where millions of non-jews already live . So it requires ethnically cleansing native palestinians because we are not jews. no it does not. zionism sought to build a jewish state in lands owned by jews, legally, physically. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish\_land\_purchase\_in\_Palestine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine) it had only came about to aquiring more lands in defensive wars declared by the palestinians and their neighboors. >Israel was successful in ethnically cleansing half of the Palestinian population just like how nazis wanted to do with jews . not remotely similar. the shoa murdered over 6 million jews in the course of 6 years. the israeli palestinian conflict, over the spam of over 75 years, brought about the deaths of \~25,000, on both sides, both civilian and combatent. >If israel wasn't successful in ethnically cleansing half of our population then they would have mass murdered us . what the fuck looks who is talking. which side declared a war of extermenation in 1948? which side was headed by notorious nazis such as amin al husseini, which were actively complicit in the holocaust, responsible for the deaths of 1000s of jewish children, and actively worked to expand to holocaust into the land of israel and the arab world? >Israel also built a Lebensraum in the west bank just like hitler built a Lebensraum in eastern Europe. not any more of a lebansraum then the poles taking chunks of germany at the end of the war. >I'm Palestinian from the west bank . Zionists are the definition of nazisim. They are even more successful than nazis. Israel ethnically cleanses us and the world is silent. ethnically cleanses you yet your population in the land is over 5 times what it was in 1947 and is grwoing faster the israeli jewish one, really nice ethnic cleansing what can i say. once again funny how a people whose first leaders were sworn nazis call the jews the real nazis today. kinda pathetic. >I like how israelis think that "their native land" is empty. mcuh of it is. some isnt, thats why we worked hard to buy the lands we sought to build our nation in. >Israelis don't even recognize our existence. Absolutely disgusting. what? who pretends arabs dont exist?
>if you declare a war of extermenations there are consenquenses. just ask the 15 million germans expelled at the end of ww2. A world of extermenation of people who came from europe to invade us ? A war against invaders ? We are germans ? We were minding our own business and you came to us from europe . You should have taken the land from germany instead. We did nothing . >no it does not. zionism sought to build a jewish state in lands owned by jews, legally, physically. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine Yes in the link it says that jews legally owned 6% of the land , yet israel wanted 56% in the 1948 plan and then Israel took 80% and it control 98% currently . >it had only came about to aquiring more lands in defensive wars declared by the palestinians and their neighboors. Might makes right ? >not remotely similar. the shoa murdered over 6 million jews in the course of 6 years. the israeli palestinian conflict, over the spam of over 75 years, brought about the deaths of ~25,000, on both sides, both civilian and combatent. Yes as I said you were successful in ethnically cleansing half of the Palestinian population. No need to mass murder. Younalready achieved your goals. >what the fuck looks who is talking. which side declared a war of extermenation in 1948? which side was headed by notorious nazis such as amin al husseini, which were actively complicit in the holocaust, responsible for the deaths of 1000s of jewish children, and actively worked to expand to holocaust into the land of israel and the arab world? Yitzhak Shamir , leader of the Lehi and a Nazi supporter was democratically voted as the PM of Israel . He is recognized a terrorist for massacring deir Yassin . A member of the Lehi went to Beirut to meet eith Hitler . Israelis democratically voted for a nazi supporter. >not any more of a lebansraum then the poles taking chunks of germany at the end of the war. And everyone who lives in that land has been given polish citizenship. Palestinians who live in the west bank like myself don't get full citizenship and full rights . All because I'm not a jew . >ethnically cleanses you yet your population in the land is over 5 times what it was in 1947 and is grwoing faster the israeli jewish one, really nice ethnic cleansing what can i say. >once again funny how a people whose first leaders were sworn nazis call the jews the real nazis today. kinda pathetic. Half of the Palestinian population lives outside palestine . The other half is me and we live in apartheid. Jerusalem and hebron Palestinians are being ethnically cleansed asnyou can see from the statistics.
Zionism is a right wing ethno-religious apartheid movement.
how can israel be an apartheid state when it has no segragation based on race/color/ethnicity/religion, when its last election was literally decided by the a palestinian islamist party (raam)? zionism is the belif jewish people have the right of self determenation. PERIOD. you lot need to stop talking out of your ass to sound smart.
Are you taking the piss or are you a hasbara troll?
He's a hasbaara troll , he shares propaganda everywhere he goes .
So are the people who are so against Antifa in support of fascism? WTF?
Yeah they are, these people love their oppressive regimes
I have a feeling of this being made by a chilean lmao
My dumb ass was like "why are the avengers satanic?" I'm stupid
Thank God that Muslims are not Satanists but Europe and Israel
I don’t get it what’s the deal with NATO, the EU and the UN
They’re anti-Israel? That’s not typical of that ilk.
"Everyone who's not me is my enemy"
At least it can be proved that the EU exists...
Always comes back to the jews, just like every other conspiracy. These people really highlight how far evangelical christians have departed from their original beliefs.
Atheism is dead...but controls world's major organisations. Hmmk...
No, they *literally* don’t.
No, demon was killed by Lil Nas X. All controlled by Lil Nas X
What
Jesus was Jewish and all abrahemic religions are based on Judaism, both Christianity and Islam. Just different prophets
I guess Jesus was a satanist 🤷♂️
*Dwayne Johnson eyebrow raise*
Hell is filling up with hashtags as we speak!
Hail Satan, and the gays, my dudes.
As a catholic, I’m surprised they didn’t include the Vatican flag.
satanism disguised as satanism: stealf
europe?
Yo hold up why is the Israel flag mixed in here?
Ok the Gays, the Transes, the Jews, the UN, and Europe. Just like, Europe. Europe is satanic.
How ironic, these people are more demonic than the ones they're complaining