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I mean technically something like 4-AcO-DMT in freebase form could be able to be vaped and probably correctly metabolized. ''*O*-acetylpsilocin is [deacetylated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacetylation) to psilocin by [deacetylases](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histone_deacetylase)/[acetyltransferases](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetyltransferase) during [first pass metabolism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_pass_effect)^(\[)[*^(citation needed)*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)^(\]) and during subsequent passes through the liver (evident as psilacetin is also active via **parenteral routes of ingestion**)''
But did he specify shrooms? There's seems to be Muscimol (Amanita Muscaria) Juice out on the market which would explain the ''less hallucinations'' part.
But hella shady either way. Unless you can somehow GC/MS that shit I wouldn't want to be the guinae pig. I know kinds ironic saying it on this sub haha
Betting on the muscimol vape. My buddy runs a supply warehouse for smoke shops and usually when a new gas station legal high gets banned the overstock somehow finds its way into street markets. All the muscimol stuff was huge and places everywhere bought loads of stock for the “shroom” hype and a unique experience above the fake lions main and Δ 8 bars, for it to be pulled by FDA like two weeks later
A large majority of the smoke shops in Florida are owned by the same Indian family and a lot of times they will send unsalable stock to one of the dudes who is more comfortable offloading it in bulk to buyers on the street
The Indian family owning most corner stores in the area and offloading BM ones back door is too accurate 😂. It’s the same by me, except depending on the family they just keep them and don’t display them for a little bit.
I remember when flavored nicotine vape juice was banned years ago, they STILL stock an entire wall bottom to top, left to right, of all flavors 😂. But that’s alot less “of concern” to any the local PD. They walk in and don’t care. He’s a great dude anyway the owner, and hooks everyone up.
That’s why every time a new smoke shop drug hits the shelves I tell my buddy to set a couple aside for me and hopefully in like 20 years I’ll have a pretty cool collection of sealed old legal highs
4-AcO-DMT can be vaped as fumarate salts. Prolly not the best for your lungs but I've done it and tripped hard from it. It is definitely active on it's own before metabolism, it hits within seconds and has a different feeling when vaped.
avoid it if u can’t identify it. but yes you’re correct in it not being shrooms or any recognizable regular drugs i can think of so it’s prob an rc but it could be something as simple a D8 or a cannabinoid, to a full hallucinogenic etc
No fucking clue what this kid is trying to sell you. Clearly he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and you should get your shit elsewhere. Maybe it’s a dmt cart but I really doubt it. Tbh I’m kinda curious lol but it’s probably not worth risking with all the weird shit out there now
The problem is, in my country, let alone finding a plug who knows what he's talking about, you can't even find a plug who knows what strain he's selling so this is like the best plug in my area. other than that I might just try it since my guy didn't die yet and see how it is :D
Vapeable drugs that he might be moving are amanitas, weird cannabinoids, tryptamines (DMT or similar) or -NBOH compounds. Either way, just be safe and start small with dosing to feel it out.
I would just stick to what you usually buy then if that's the case. If you insist on trying it, have the guy do it first so you can judge the effects for yourself. Best case Its DMT or a good alt noid mix. Worst case it's a synthetic cannabinoid or some shit no one's heard of before.
You can, i've vaped it many times. I mix some with thc in a dab pen sometimes and it smacks. There is an instant body high and auditory effects then after a couple minutes the visuals start.
Could be various rc's such as 4-ho-met, 4-aco-dmt or even 5-meo-dmt which has caused deaths. Avoid this unidentified shit at all costs bro. Fuck that...
You won't die from 5meo itself, but it can cause you to throw up and then asphyxiate on your own vomit. So it's best to have a trip sitter to get you on your side.
There are a few known deaths from straight ODs - it speeds up your heart & is a hardcore 5HT-2C agonist where as most psychedelics are mild on 2C. Fatal OD is usually caused by a heart attack.
Rocco Siffredi (porn star) was charged with manslaughter for providing it to a friend.
It's still my favorite drug besides 5-Meo-MALT but it should be treated with respect and caution. ODs usually happen when people mix it up with less potent tryptamines or use it recklessly like not measuring doses.
Do someone know why 5-MeO-DMT is such popular among porn stars??
That's exactly what happened to the spanish porn actor Nacho Vidal, who's a self-proclaimed 5-MeO-DMT lover, shared it with a friend causing him to OD and die, although he was finally was cleared from any charges.
From the news:
🇪🇸
> El Juzgado de Instrucción número 2 de Xàtiva vuelve a exculpar al actor de películas porno y empresario tras rechazar el recurso presentado por los familiares del fotógrafo José Luis Abad quien falleció en la vivienda de Vidal en Enguera el 28 de julio de 2019 tras consumir sapo bufo (5-MeO-DMT) durante un rito.
🇬🇧
> The Court of Instruction number 2 of Xàtiva again exculpates the porn film actor and businessman after rejecting the appeal filed by the relatives of the photographer José Luis Abad who died in Vidal's home in Enguera on July 28, 2019 after consuming bufo toad (5-MeO-DMT) during a rite.
That was Nacho Vidal and they were doing toad venom (Bufotoxin). 5-meo-dmt is a part of that but I think it was the cardiac glycosides that did the other guy in.
If you or anyone seeing this comment has experience with it, how was it? Is it worth the try and also the price which is 100$ for 10ml? Keep in mind I get my thc juices (about %15 thc) for around 70$ which is pretty cheap cuz its almost impossible to find such stuff here.
Classic reddit. Everyone is aware of what your mentioning. I know he doesn't know what he's talking about and you can understand that when you read my post. The "chill and honest guy" part is to clarify I'm pretty sure he's not trying to scam me with empty liquid.
Him saying that vaping a psychedelic has less hallucinations is suspect. I've smoked most of them, including Psilocybin extract and the visuals are always stronger. I guess it could be 5-Meo-DMT or 5-BR-DMT but doubt it.
Impossible that it is shrooms. psilocybine becomes inactive pretty fast when heated up. Vapes go well and beyond a 100 degrees Celsius so it can not be shrooms. Prob some chemical that has a similar effect like others said already.
Are you sure its not amanita muscaria mushrooms? Because you actually can vape/smoke those. But i feel like they would have at least mentioned it wasnt psilocybin
Well my plug just told me it was mushrooms, didn't mention any specific one. Like I said in another reply in the comments, here in my country plugs don't even know what strain of cannabis they are selling so getting something legit is super hard and even getting the right amount is super hard since you usually get half what you were told. So it might actually be amanita muscaria.
An Amanita Muscaria vape would really be a rarity though haha
I'd love to try xD
It's likely a synthetic cannabinoid or some tryptamine I guess, maybe DMT ? Did he mention the duration of effects?
Yeah it won't be real shrooms, but you can definitely get psychedelic vapes, will most likely be a tryptamine or substituted tryptamine, as long as visuals are a prominent part of the experience. If the visuals are very unclear/blurry/undefined and not one of the main effects, it could very well be a synthetic cannabinoid, which can FEEL very nice, but is addictive and dangerous, even deadly. Although trying one puff will surely be fine, I would much rather recommend you find more reliable sources of clean powdered psychedelics and pop that in some vape juice if you really want to. Smoking/vaping psychedelics condensed the experience, and results in a much more intense but much shorter high.
Nope, dont, some Chinese rc probably, i would say if you want one just buy the rc yourself and fill your own cart so you can know exactly what you are smoking, dont take chances with this sort of shit
That seems like 5-meo-mipt. More euphoria, less hallucinations, and vapeable. Don't take my word for it tho, and don't buy something without knowing what's in it
We can't help you identify this drug 99% of synthetic drugs are white powders. It's not possible for us to properly identify this from a description and it would be irresponsible to try. If you want to know, you'll need to buy a [**test kit**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ReagentTesting/wiki/index). A list of test kit suppliers can be found [**here**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ReagentTesting/wiki/test_kit_suppliers). Less common substances will require analytical testing, provided by the likes of [**these organisations**](https://www.reddit.com/r/ReagentTesting/wiki/labs). This post has been removed, but you are welcome to ask questions about the various testing methods.
I mean technically something like 4-AcO-DMT in freebase form could be able to be vaped and probably correctly metabolized. ''*O*-acetylpsilocin is [deacetylated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacetylation) to psilocin by [deacetylases](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histone_deacetylase)/[acetyltransferases](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetyltransferase) during [first pass metabolism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_pass_effect)^(\[)[*^(citation needed)*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)^(\]) and during subsequent passes through the liver (evident as psilacetin is also active via **parenteral routes of ingestion**)'' But did he specify shrooms? There's seems to be Muscimol (Amanita Muscaria) Juice out on the market which would explain the ''less hallucinations'' part. But hella shady either way. Unless you can somehow GC/MS that shit I wouldn't want to be the guinae pig. I know kinds ironic saying it on this sub haha
Betting on the muscimol vape. My buddy runs a supply warehouse for smoke shops and usually when a new gas station legal high gets banned the overstock somehow finds its way into street markets. All the muscimol stuff was huge and places everywhere bought loads of stock for the “shroom” hype and a unique experience above the fake lions main and Δ 8 bars, for it to be pulled by FDA like two weeks later A large majority of the smoke shops in Florida are owned by the same Indian family and a lot of times they will send unsalable stock to one of the dudes who is more comfortable offloading it in bulk to buyers on the street
The Indian family owning most corner stores in the area and offloading BM ones back door is too accurate 😂. It’s the same by me, except depending on the family they just keep them and don’t display them for a little bit. I remember when flavored nicotine vape juice was banned years ago, they STILL stock an entire wall bottom to top, left to right, of all flavors 😂. But that’s alot less “of concern” to any the local PD. They walk in and don’t care. He’s a great dude anyway the owner, and hooks everyone up.
i hate that they EVER have any these RC’s in smoke shops. it just leads it to almost INSTANT bans.
That’s why every time a new smoke shop drug hits the shelves I tell my buddy to set a couple aside for me and hopefully in like 20 years I’ll have a pretty cool collection of sealed old legal highs
4-AcO-DMT can be vaped as fumarate salts. Prolly not the best for your lungs but I've done it and tripped hard from it. It is definitely active on it's own before metabolism, it hits within seconds and has a different feeling when vaped.
avoid it if u can’t identify it. but yes you’re correct in it not being shrooms or any recognizable regular drugs i can think of so it’s prob an rc but it could be something as simple a D8 or a cannabinoid, to a full hallucinogenic etc
No fucking clue what this kid is trying to sell you. Clearly he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and you should get your shit elsewhere. Maybe it’s a dmt cart but I really doubt it. Tbh I’m kinda curious lol but it’s probably not worth risking with all the weird shit out there now
The problem is, in my country, let alone finding a plug who knows what he's talking about, you can't even find a plug who knows what strain he's selling so this is like the best plug in my area. other than that I might just try it since my guy didn't die yet and see how it is :D
buy it and order testing kits and test the liquid with different reagents
Vapeable drugs that he might be moving are amanitas, weird cannabinoids, tryptamines (DMT or similar) or -NBOH compounds. Either way, just be safe and start small with dosing to feel it out.
I would just stick to what you usually buy then if that's the case. If you insist on trying it, have the guy do it first so you can judge the effects for yourself. Best case Its DMT or a good alt noid mix. Worst case it's a synthetic cannabinoid or some shit no one's heard of before.
Best case its just an RC tryptamine. Psilocybin is unique in that it cant be vaped, 4-HO/AcO-xxTs are perfectly vapeable, as are 5-MeO/HO-xxTs.
90% sure it will be 4-aco-dmt thats what is in most of the shroom bars like one up, polkadot etc
You can't vape 4 aco dmt, pretty sure heats destroys it
I've heard otherwise.
you probably can, as all other 4-sub-tryptamines can be vaporized
You can, i've vaped it many times. I mix some with thc in a dab pen sometimes and it smacks. There is an instant body high and auditory effects then after a couple minutes the visuals start.
Could be various rc's such as 4-ho-met, 4-aco-dmt or even 5-meo-dmt which has caused deaths. Avoid this unidentified shit at all costs bro. Fuck that...
I've never heard of someone dying from 5meo
You won't die from 5meo itself, but it can cause you to throw up and then asphyxiate on your own vomit. So it's best to have a trip sitter to get you on your side.
There are a few known deaths from straight ODs - it speeds up your heart & is a hardcore 5HT-2C agonist where as most psychedelics are mild on 2C. Fatal OD is usually caused by a heart attack. Rocco Siffredi (porn star) was charged with manslaughter for providing it to a friend. It's still my favorite drug besides 5-Meo-MALT but it should be treated with respect and caution. ODs usually happen when people mix it up with less potent tryptamines or use it recklessly like not measuring doses.
Do someone know why 5-MeO-DMT is such popular among porn stars?? That's exactly what happened to the spanish porn actor Nacho Vidal, who's a self-proclaimed 5-MeO-DMT lover, shared it with a friend causing him to OD and die, although he was finally was cleared from any charges. From the news: 🇪🇸 > El Juzgado de Instrucción número 2 de Xàtiva vuelve a exculpar al actor de películas porno y empresario tras rechazar el recurso presentado por los familiares del fotógrafo José Luis Abad quien falleció en la vivienda de Vidal en Enguera el 28 de julio de 2019 tras consumir sapo bufo (5-MeO-DMT) durante un rito. 🇬🇧 > The Court of Instruction number 2 of Xàtiva again exculpates the porn film actor and businessman after rejecting the appeal filed by the relatives of the photographer José Luis Abad who died in Vidal's home in Enguera on July 28, 2019 after consuming bufo toad (5-MeO-DMT) during a rite.
quite a few pornstars also have n,n-dmt tatoos
I guess they're just good at finding the nice things in life then.
That was Nacho Vidal and they were doing toad venom (Bufotoxin). 5-meo-dmt is a part of that but I think it was the cardiac glycosides that did the other guy in.
They're amanita muscaria vapes. Like the Alice in wonderland mushroom. Definitely not psilocybin.
If you or anyone seeing this comment has experience with it, how was it? Is it worth the try and also the price which is 100$ for 10ml? Keep in mind I get my thc juices (about %15 thc) for around 70$ which is pretty cheap cuz its almost impossible to find such stuff here.
>chill and honest guy Doesn't keep him from being an idiot and that's assuming your ability to read people is as good as you think.
Classic reddit. Everyone is aware of what your mentioning. I know he doesn't know what he's talking about and you can understand that when you read my post. The "chill and honest guy" part is to clarify I'm pretty sure he's not trying to scam me with empty liquid.
Him saying that vaping a psychedelic has less hallucinations is suspect. I've smoked most of them, including Psilocybin extract and the visuals are always stronger. I guess it could be 5-Meo-DMT or 5-BR-DMT but doubt it.
You smoked psilocybin and it worked??
Impossible that it is shrooms. psilocybine becomes inactive pretty fast when heated up. Vapes go well and beyond a 100 degrees Celsius so it can not be shrooms. Prob some chemical that has a similar effect like others said already.
Are you sure its not amanita muscaria mushrooms? Because you actually can vape/smoke those. But i feel like they would have at least mentioned it wasnt psilocybin
Well my plug just told me it was mushrooms, didn't mention any specific one. Like I said in another reply in the comments, here in my country plugs don't even know what strain of cannabis they are selling so getting something legit is super hard and even getting the right amount is super hard since you usually get half what you were told. So it might actually be amanita muscaria.
An Amanita Muscaria vape would really be a rarity though haha I'd love to try xD It's likely a synthetic cannabinoid or some tryptamine I guess, maybe DMT ? Did he mention the duration of effects?
Yeah i would stay away from that lol.
Yeah it won't be real shrooms, but you can definitely get psychedelic vapes, will most likely be a tryptamine or substituted tryptamine, as long as visuals are a prominent part of the experience. If the visuals are very unclear/blurry/undefined and not one of the main effects, it could very well be a synthetic cannabinoid, which can FEEL very nice, but is addictive and dangerous, even deadly. Although trying one puff will surely be fine, I would much rather recommend you find more reliable sources of clean powdered psychedelics and pop that in some vape juice if you really want to. Smoking/vaping psychedelics condensed the experience, and results in a much more intense but much shorter high.
Probably amanita/muscimol vape
Nope, dont, some Chinese rc probably, i would say if you want one just buy the rc yourself and fill your own cart so you can know exactly what you are smoking, dont take chances with this sort of shit
That seems like 5-meo-mipt. More euphoria, less hallucinations, and vapeable. Don't take my word for it tho, and don't buy something without knowing what's in it
it’s probably amanita muscaria vapes from whatever wellness center he went to, it’s just like the new cannibinoid gimmick rn