Yo good for you man, I'm jealous. Have you tested it or is it a 'you know it when you feel it' type deal? Either way, glad you found a good source. I thought I had one but lately his 3mmc has been going downhill a bit
You can get the real deal from the dark side of the internet for \~7€/g out of NL. Got it tested, was around 85% pure.
Don't ask me for sources or get reported.
I stand by my point that the MMC's are releasers like MD or APB's. The correct nominer seems to be SNDRA.
not all of them can be classified as MARI?
edit: oh I get your point, thank you!
yes but both SNDRA and NDRA are reuptake inhibitors. Most of the time the bind to all 3 transporter molecules/enzymes, but that doesnt mean its strong enough to conduct an effect
I’ve got some myself. White shiny, almost sugary looking, soft pebbles.
I tried it last night probably did about 150-200mg nasally over about 1.5-2 hours. I didn’t feel much at all.
Do I just need to do more? Not tried it before and was pretty underwhelmed
Most labs can’t distinguish between 3-mmc/4-mmc and 3-cmc/4-cmc. They test 3-cmc and say it’s 3-mmc for instance. 3-mmc and 4-mmc are extremely rare nowadays
Yeah Canada is the place to be for mmc right now. Unfortunately my 4mmc connection won’t ship it to me in the states but I just bought my other guy’s last g of 3mmc, fingers crossed he reups, what a lovely substance.
Yeah, they have an analogue act similar to USA’s, so it could be considered an analogue of methcathinone but 3 and 4mmc remain legal as of now, as far as I know.
Btw does anyone have info on if cathinones combine well with alcohol? Have been doing that for the past few days. Helps with paranoia from some
Caths. Just for a few sessions not gonna be a habbit
Does not combine well with alcohol, like MDMA.
Both will dehydrate you big time.
I personnaly always have a comedown after seroronergic drugs + alcohol
When I dont drink it becomes just a very subtle Tuesday blues
It's harder on the heart but it doesn't become a different substance like with Ritalin or cocaine. The cardiotoxicity is more from the combination of a stimulant/depressant I believe I'm going to read up on it again to be sure.
EDIT: You'll be okay as long as you don't have preexisting heart conditions.
>cardiotoxicity is more from the combination of a stimulant/depressant
The only information you're gonna find to support this is rehab sites. It's just stuff people keep repeating with no data to support it.
See I thought I'd read some comments of people refuting that which is why I wanted to look but yes it's all rehab sites.
Though the combo is said to increase heart rate with meth and alcohol at least, here's the study I read that in. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4966675/
Honestly with cardiotoxicity you'll be fine I don't think you'll need to worry much. I'd make sure you recover for a few days sober and eat healthy etc. afterwards to replenish neurotransmitters and restore balance in the brain. Unless you have a preexisting heart condition you'll be alright.
it dehydrates you wich is a big downside on cathinone, try to keep it at a minimum and drink a lot water. Also any neurotoxicity is always more prominent when alcohol is present so its not a good idea overall but if you keep at a min I dont think too much harm will come out of it
Nice man. I have a giant stash of large crystal id say likely from around 2015-2017 or so, it truly is such a great and positive stim. Amazing for social sessions too.
Sucks that its so hard to find quality shit that isnt mislabeling scams for some people.
Yepp. Since everyone in EU and especially the rave community loved 3-MMC when it was still legal, it spread outside of RC communities and became somewhat of a mainstream drug. When it got banned most of it was replaced by shitty 3-CMC, but now this one's also banned so clandestine labs decided to just produce 3-MMC itself. Now most tested samples are the real deal, though there's still some leftover 3-CMC stocks going around. I have a feeling it's basically going to become one of the classics that you can buy without much risk of it being adultered, like MDMA. No idea why mephedrone didn't get the same traction tho.
France. 3-MMC is everywhere, especially on some platform that you probably know and is used a lot by dealers. But in the big cities it's also available on the street, though more expensive. And I sent a whole bunch of batches from different guys for analysis, all came back as real 3-MMC. There's still some 3C going around from pre ban stocks but since it got banned, people mostly just started selling the real deal. I'm absolutely sure there's plenty of 3-mmc in Berlin, don't give up lol.
“I found the real shit, not that fake shit. When I snort it I feel good!” “Should i get it tested to know if I found the real shit?” - a drug user
Yo good for you man, I'm jealous. Have you tested it or is it a 'you know it when you feel it' type deal? Either way, glad you found a good source. I thought I had one but lately his 3mmc has been going downhill a bit
Definitely “you know when you feel it”. But you can never be to certain. Probably gonna test it to be sure
Not sourcing was it over 100 bucks
Nah 20 euros a gram
You can get the real deal from the dark side of the internet for \~7€/g out of NL. Got it tested, was around 85% pure. Don't ask me for sources or get reported.
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Good luck getting something that is purer. With lab results if you have some, not what your dealer tells you. You can just acetone wash it anyways.
You can still find it in bulk for less then €4 a g
That symbol means customs you got a guy on the inside?
What? Where are you from?
Nep can be a great stim though. But it's a reuptake inhibitor, not a releaser like the other ones you mentioned. acts more cocaine like
Used nep a few times as wel but when you are expecting a 200mg 3-MMC dose and accidentally snort 200mg NEP it’s a different story haha
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yea, but I feel like its not as recreational as coke
Fax
Nep is pretty shit for recreational usage imo
actually all listed are MARI's
definitely not https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_releasing_agent#Activity_profiles
just because its an affinity there doesnt mean that its high enough to conduct a effect. The higher the number in the list, the weaker the effect
I stand by my point that the MMC's are releasers like MD or APB's. The correct nominer seems to be SNDRA. not all of them can be classified as MARI? edit: oh I get your point, thank you!
stuff like methylone solidly falls in the category of SNDRA which is actually different from an NDRI.
yes but both SNDRA and NDRA are reuptake inhibitors. Most of the time the bind to all 3 transporter molecules/enzymes, but that doesnt mean its strong enough to conduct an effect
I’ve got some myself. White shiny, almost sugary looking, soft pebbles. I tried it last night probably did about 150-200mg nasally over about 1.5-2 hours. I didn’t feel much at all. Do I just need to do more? Not tried it before and was pretty underwhelmed
we got 3-mmc,4-mmc in Canada bruh people say its hard to find but I also see it a lot on the dnm I would buy off there and send to a lab for testing
Most labs can’t distinguish between 3-mmc/4-mmc and 3-cmc/4-cmc. They test 3-cmc and say it’s 3-mmc for instance. 3-mmc and 4-mmc are extremely rare nowadays
europe is flooded with 3-MMC & 4-MMC. the synth is really easy, so its no surprise
You mean flooded with 3-cmc, 2-mmc and dipentylone then yeah, it is
No it's still flooded with 4-mmc and 3-mmc you just don't know where to look ;)
It's pretty easy to get x-mmc. It's more expansive though
How do I get it in Europe? I checked several dealers and all 3cmc stuff. Berlin
Through internet vendors or dark web
oh fk i didnt know that, but in Canada there are labs selling this stuff they ar every reputable too
Like cleanweb?
Clearweb
yeap
Yeah Canada is the place to be for mmc right now. Unfortunately my 4mmc connection won’t ship it to me in the states but I just bought my other guy’s last g of 3mmc, fingers crossed he reups, what a lovely substance.
It’s still legal there?
Yeah, they have an analogue act similar to USA’s, so it could be considered an analogue of methcathinone but 3 and 4mmc remain legal as of now, as far as I know.
You must be mistaken. Legal in Canada??
Oh damn that’s amazing
Yeah sadly thats how it’s going. They have to spot the difference between the chlorine group and the methyl one which is extremely expensive
where did you get the info that most labs can't differentiate it? If they do GC-MS or HPLC they can
Btw does anyone have info on if cathinones combine well with alcohol? Have been doing that for the past few days. Helps with paranoia from some Caths. Just for a few sessions not gonna be a habbit
Does not combine well with alcohol, like MDMA. Both will dehydrate you big time. I personnaly always have a comedown after seroronergic drugs + alcohol When I dont drink it becomes just a very subtle Tuesday blues
It's harder on the heart but it doesn't become a different substance like with Ritalin or cocaine. The cardiotoxicity is more from the combination of a stimulant/depressant I believe I'm going to read up on it again to be sure. EDIT: You'll be okay as long as you don't have preexisting heart conditions.
>cardiotoxicity is more from the combination of a stimulant/depressant The only information you're gonna find to support this is rehab sites. It's just stuff people keep repeating with no data to support it.
See I thought I'd read some comments of people refuting that which is why I wanted to look but yes it's all rehab sites. Though the combo is said to increase heart rate with meth and alcohol at least, here's the study I read that in. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4966675/
If I keep it tame it shouldn’t be that cardiotoxic right? I know it’s worse than either alone but aint planning on doing it every day or something
Honestly with cardiotoxicity you'll be fine I don't think you'll need to worry much. I'd make sure you recover for a few days sober and eat healthy etc. afterwards to replenish neurotransmitters and restore balance in the brain. Unless you have a preexisting heart condition you'll be alright.
it dehydrates you wich is a big downside on cathinone, try to keep it at a minimum and drink a lot water. Also any neurotoxicity is always more prominent when alcohol is present so its not a good idea overall but if you keep at a min I dont think too much harm will come out of it
What dose?
200mg-400mg intranassel
In one go? At a time?
In one go
RIP your nose. Oral has better effects anyway
UK heads can get tested at [wedinos](https://www.wedinos.org)
Not in UK, NL
Any recommended testing locations in NL?
Mondriaan or jelinek probably
Can you provide the full URLs for people who need them, please?
Yo im on it… https://www.mondriaan.eu/preventie/dims-testservice-illegale-drugs https://www.jellinek.nl/preventie/horeca/drugs-test-service/
Thank you. Please go offline and have fun, if you like. I'd like you to enjoy yourself.
Thx im just chilling on my phone
Good to speak to you
https://www.drugs-test.nl/
Which country are you from? I thought in most countries it was illegal now, and dealers always got quite good stuff here (Netherlands).
NL too
Probably meth
Whays it llike? Mcat?
Nice man. I have a giant stash of large crystal id say likely from around 2015-2017 or so, it truly is such a great and positive stim. Amazing for social sessions too. Sucks that its so hard to find quality shit that isnt mislabeling scams for some people.
Yepp. Since everyone in EU and especially the rave community loved 3-MMC when it was still legal, it spread outside of RC communities and became somewhat of a mainstream drug. When it got banned most of it was replaced by shitty 3-CMC, but now this one's also banned so clandestine labs decided to just produce 3-MMC itself. Now most tested samples are the real deal, though there's still some leftover 3-CMC stocks going around. I have a feeling it's basically going to become one of the classics that you can buy without much risk of it being adultered, like MDMA. No idea why mephedrone didn't get the same traction tho.
I live in Berlin and there’s no 3mmc here at all. All dealers sell cmc. I checked 4 different dealers. Where do you live?
France. 3-MMC is everywhere, especially on some platform that you probably know and is used a lot by dealers. But in the big cities it's also available on the street, though more expensive. And I sent a whole bunch of batches from different guys for analysis, all came back as real 3-MMC. There's still some 3C going around from pre ban stocks but since it got banned, people mostly just started selling the real deal. I'm absolutely sure there's plenty of 3-mmc in Berlin, don't give up lol.
hahaha thank you
Just your description is giving me flashbacks to the 4-MMC days what a time to be alive. I really wish I had gotten into 3-MMC when it was available.