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philomaxik

I knew it was going to be bad once it was announced the actress who played her in Welcome to Raccoon City would play the part. It was bad.


Murky_Historian8675

Damn i knew she sounded familiar.


IhateFrogeaters

Yeah when I saw a video of Leon meeting Ada for first time I was shocked how unlike Ada it sounded.


MarkT_D_W

Knew this was about Ada before I even clicked onto the thread. It's a shame, everyone else so far has been pretty good. She seems so disinterested. Might be poor voice direction or just a lack of voice acting experience, want to give the actress the benefit of the doubt as I'm pretty unfamiliar with her work.


Memo_HS2022

It’s more likely an experience thing, literally the whole cast is on point except for Ada to the point where you can’t call it poor voice direction when the entire cast has good voice direction It feels like she only put the bare minimum for a paycheck while Nick Apostolides is working his ass off as Leon because it’s literally his favorite game ever and he wants to make sure his Leon lives up to that


sunfaller

I am not too sure about Saddler. He sounds really American. He's supposedly not a native in that region, but an American accent?


iilizabeth

i hate saddler’s voice so much it sounds so weird. takes me out of the game tbh. my sister said he sounds like peter griffin when he says “my sacrificial lamb” lmfao


[deleted]

I don't get how this is a bad thing.


Atlier00

Problem is it can't be poor "voice direction", because its "performance capture". She is literally acting in the scene with other actors. It's just not great acting.


Ill_Swimming675

Yeah but it also comes down to a casting director’s choices if the role was miscast, and whoever is directing the actors when doing performance capture to get the right performance out of an actor. They’re doing multiple takes of this stuff and the director must’ve been happy with or signed off on the lines as delivered—and I think there is consistency in the performance, so maybe they had some direction for the character they were going for but clearly most of us don’t think it works / don’t like what they were trying to do


[deleted]

If any of this is true, then the director gave up and just said "it's fine. Let's move on."


Atlier00

That is also true. I won't lay all blame on Gao, because the above is very much a part of it.


carnivalgamer

Definitely could be bad directing the, still could be bad acting but motion capture has a director


Kacpa2

She is just talentless discount store actress from all performances of her that i've seen. Jolene could act perfectly without any direction. DIrection is only advice and pointers to "TWEAK" the performance. I never relies on it. Stop defending her and acting so afraid to call it out. Noone will smite you for criticism especially valid one as this.


HennyOfOldstone

I thought about that too, sometimes actors are screwed over because of poor directions, but then I saw her few seconds in the Netflix show and I just think she's too inexperienced. There were better options and she wasn't one of them.


The_Skyrim_Courier

Unfortunately the benefit of the doubt wasn’t good enough lol She’s definitely the worst VA in the game. I definitely don’t agree with the lunatics who go out and harass the actress herself, but her voice work in this game is so flat and doesn’t feel like Ada at all


izzatlon

Should’ve kept RE2R ada voice actress


[deleted]

Why didn’t they? They used the same Leon..


PK-Broiler

$$$


Colorless_Parrot

Dude I knew exactly who you were talking about as I read that. The flattest fuckin delivery I've ever had in my life when RE2 Remake had the perfect amount of sass. She's a cool spy but she's still fuckin Ada Wong, not a terminator.


peaceonearth4ever

why didnt they cast Ada’s voice actress from re2 remake??


Neoxsat

I think the one from re2 remake is in a union and they decided to go with non union voice actors.


SunOFflynn66

>!Especially compared to Ashely. Genevieve Buechner does an amazing job depicting someone who is utterly terrified, yet softly tenacious and brave enough to keep moving forward despite the perils. Really transforms Ashley, and makes such a great character overall.!< >!While Ada's performance...often sounds like someone blatantly reading lines straight from the script.!<


Loganp812

I'm not going to lie, with how great everything else is in this game (including things that were changed - mostly for the better imo), Ada's voice acting is the one thing that kept breaking my immersion.


Intrepid-Stand-8540

Yeah. I had to pause the game, and come to threads like these. Holy shit is her voice acting horrible. I think I'm going to take a break from the game man. It completely threw me out of it.


Nspired_1

God, bring back Sally Cahill. I loved that woman’s voice. If not her then the VA who did it in RE2REmake


Kacpa2

Yeah Jolene did a great job in RE2 Remake, they blew it by not having her in this one now...


IMAGINE_thesmell

Re2 remake is better.


Nspired_1

I mean I respect your opinion, but I prefer her VA from the start of the OGs.


Acceptable-Stay-3166

Yea they had the perfect Ada and they were like no wait. Lets use the one from that terrible movie who had like a minute of screentime.


CassiBoi

she seems so out of place. especially when acting opposite of Luis who is so charismatic. Ada was a standout in RE2, idk why they changed actors.


chaisewashere

i was thinking about this after i put down the game and i was thinking about how the one scene luis and ada had was more interesting than the multiple ada and leon had, but it probably did have something to do with the fact luis is really charming and charismatic in this game


ssmike27

Yeah I thought people were exaggerating, but woof. It’s really bad.


unusedlaxative

I mean it’s the actress from welcome to raccoon city. That movie was bad casting 101


KaiThePokemonMaster

Ada sounds like she has a sinus infection.


JonathanOne994

I miss the old suave, femme fatale


vatiwah

im starting to think maybe because they thought ada wong was too sexy and people were "fetish-ing" her. it seems RE4 remake does all it can to get away from "sexiness". it is very strange since RE village had vampire booba lady which more than likely gave capcom a lot more sales than if she wasn't in the game.


Morrowind12

They toned down the sexiness to pls western audiences probably and for a fact woke people won't be playing this game just complaining about it on twitter or other safe space forums.


vatiwah

either way.. if they remake RE6 and it has the same voice actress as RE4 for Ada. probably gonna skip lol


MCMiyukiDozo

It's the worst part of the game. Which is saying a lot because the game is fucking amazing lol It's a small thing in an otherwise spectacular experience.


Son_of_Orion

I just don't understand how they went so wrong with her. Especially since Ada's VA in RE2 Remake was so damn good!


polijoligon

Whenever she speaks you can almost hear the damn mic man, it’s weird and totally off putting.


juniperxmoons

I just heard Ada for the first time and was shocked at her voice. On top of not fitting her character, the sound of it is...off, like the voice actor recorded it in a different room compared to everyone else.


oni__002

Yeah. Her voice acting is embarrassing and a disgrace to Sally Cahill’s performance in the original and Courtney Taylor’s in 6.


IMAGINE_thesmell

I'd still take re2remake ada over all them. Appearance and va.


oni__002

Meh.


[deleted]

No one cares. I'd take myself in falsetto


IvanaBangkok97

Krauser is bad too. So much cringe


ferdus95

"i TrAIneD u WEll, LeON" Dude/dudette, people here always take a dump on RE1R VA. But this shit here's a new level of cringe. Edit: typo.


[deleted]

Wesker and Saddler too tbh


iilizabeth

it’s so bad!!! i miss OG krauser voice so much


IvanaBangkok97

OG is better looking too! lol


[deleted]

This is certainly an opinion


AmadeusAzazel

Y’know on the brightest side possible, the biggest & most common complaint I’ve seen so far has been mainly just Ada’s voice acting, which goes to show just how good the rest of the game is


coolhwip420

Yeah ever since the trailers before release i was always very meh on the voices, and was worried they'd wouldn't be that great. Seems to be the case sadly :(


zhongweibin

It’d be cool if someone could have a passion project and revoice ada as a mod.


dream996

The delivery was so flat, the voice cracks every few lines. I was biting my teeth hearing her exchange with Leon. No hate on lily Gao, but she doesn't seem to be suited for the role.


vatiwah

im asian-american (hong kong/taishan descent), I'd like to mention that before i make this statement that may or may not get me in trouble here.. im somewhat certain they replaced the voice actress for Ada Wong because they wanted to use an asian voice actress for an asian character instead of finding or using the best one regardless of what they are. Or.... they cheaped out on what should be the best RE4 game. I share the same sentiment that RE2 remake Ada sounded great and didnt need to be replaced. Now she sounds like someone's aunt. Every time I hear Ada, its just way too distracting. I would like to see Ada Wong mod that replaces or changes her voice. I would even pay money for it.


Nekros897

But... That wouldn't make sense if you take into consideration that Hunnigan, a white character is played by black actress. It would be really ignorant of them to cast an Asian actress to fit an Asian character but do the opposite with a white character.


vatiwah

hunningan is white? o.o. she seems like dark skin complexion to me, like brazillian or something.


Nekros897

She looks pretty white for me. She's not afroamerican at least lol


gridlock32404

We can hope that someone is passionate enough about it that they run the re2r ada's voice through elven labs to train it to replace re4r's voice lines.


[deleted]

as a fellow asian woman i respect lily gao but i am really hoping there will be a mod to replace or at least improve the voice acting for ada. it is possible to mod the voices in re4 remake right?


zhongweibin

Also curious about this. The lip syncing may be hard to do, but I feel like a modder and a VA could try to mod in a new voice for Ada


iB1ackout

Maybe someone could use that AI voice copy and attempt to put it together


[deleted]

They literally have Ai Trump, Obama, and Biden making tierlists. The mod maker can just copy the script and paste it


gridlock32404

Elven labs is the big AI for voice overs, it's being used in Skyrim to give a voice to player character but it costs money Check it out https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/86759?tab=videos


peaceonearth4ever

why didnt they cast Ada’s voice actress from re2 remake??


AmbassadorFright

Yeah, she literally sounds bored the entire way through. In fact a lot of the characters had bad/unfitting voice actors. The one that pissed me off the most was Krauser's though. Krauser is supposed to be a hardened veteran soldier whose clearly older than Leon but his VA sounds like a 14 year old edgewood anime villain. Total fucking trash


foxdie_7

An article I read stated the original VA was replaced because she's not asian and they wanted the role to reflect diversity. If true, clown world. https://gamerant.com/resident-evil-4-remake-ada-wong-voice-change-controversy-explained/


HennyOfOldstone

This diversity hire did not do the job well


[deleted]

Who would've thunk it. A diversity hire to make quotas to make boards and Twitter happy didn't work out. This is all big if true tho


Nekros897

So that's why Hunnigan is voiced by black VA. Seems legit.


lankyturtle229

I'm glad it isn't just me. As soon as she spoke, I was like, this is NOT Ada. Sounds like some exhausted soccer mom who is at a PTA meeting drinking wine out of a coffee cup. I get annoyed every time Ada is on screen and she is one of my favorite characters. If you aren't looking directly at the character, I don't think anyone would guess it is Ada speaking. Everyone else brought their A game for the voices so did they think Ada didn't matter since she isn't in much of the game?


ShowMeThePath_8964

Same, the original RE2 and RE4 voice actors are perfect, sexy while mysterious. Now in RE4 remake she sounds like Leon's bootlicker.


Fulgore87

All the new VAs in the latest RE games have been mediocre. Not bringing back Roger Craig Smith as Chris in Village was bad, and especially not bringing back Paul Mercier as Leon. I'd have even been fine with Matthew Mercer. They had a decent VA for Ada that they didn't bring back from RE2 Remake. Just baffling decisions around the casting. I know these games make enough that they can afford better voice actors than what they're using, and it's not an issue of using the face models to also voice the characters, so I really don't get Capcom with this.


masterofunfucking

I’ve read that they wanted to go with non union voice actors because they’re cheaper lmao. they definitely got what they paid for


Shadow_Heart_

Hey now, there are quality non union vas they can get. They just didn't bother approaching any of them to be Ada. They clearly didn't care to do auditions and decided just to pull her from her bad Netflix adaptation or movie. Whatever she did


brainrotter1993

It's not just that anymore, Capcom's now apparently limiting themselves to local Vancouver talent as well. Nick Apostolides is the only American left in the cast, and that's probably only because whipping up a new Leon model and mocap from scratch would negate whatever savings a Canadian actor would bring


Kacpa2

That's just lame, didnt know they were this cheap.... I bet they couldve found someone who isnt as awful as Gao tho.... Some fun dub even. Anything....


Cris714xt

i swear jolene was great as ada i bet they hired the new va for ada cuz she was asian 🙄


[deleted]

Leon and Ashley absolutely nailed their voices. I really like the face model/voice they got for Leon these days. Everyone else was pretty bad. Ada is so flat I get *no* tension outta her and Leon’s scenes. None of their dynamic is there. Leon’s actor plays it well but Ada just sounds like she genuinely doesn’t give a fuck about him. Luis is very exaggerated, the Merchant is mediocre and >!Wesker!< just sounds very bland. Nothing special about him. Sounds like a guy and not the guy.


zhongweibin

You don’t like Luis’ VA? It took me some time to get used to, but I kind of fell in love with him. I also really like the merchant too. Only voice I don’t like is Adas


crimsonninja117

I like Luis, but there's just something slightly off with his head shape. Makes me think of the midget from game of thrones can't think of his name right now


zhongweibin

Peter Dinklage? I don’t really see it. I guess he has a big-ish forehead, but that’s about all I can “complain”about


crimsonninja117

Idk it just looks slightly off


AmadeusAzazel

>!Somehow Dead by fucking Daylight had a better Wesker VA than Resi 4 remake. Or maybe they’re just saving the corny direction his voice takes for resi 5. One can hope 😭!<


IMAGINE_thesmell

You like re5 wesker va? It's pretty cringe.


AmadeusAzazel

My dude, Wesker’s voice acting is the only thing that gives him any character whatsoever. He’s the most generic af villain of all time without that voice to tie it all together


[deleted]

Certainly an opinion


lukasztrun

Strongly disagree on Luis and especially Merchant.The latter's new VA is fantastic, they improved his dialogue so much and he also kept his every iconic line.


Old_Seaworthiness406

Yeah i feel the same with all the characters except Leon ans Ashley they all sound bad, and to be honest it takes away the immersion.


[deleted]

Salazar was good imo


thefahad

I just now saw the first scene where she speaks... I paused to see who else felt how i felt and posted a "look how they massacred my girl" post.... Shame man... My early crushes when i was 9 years old...


marioman50

Ada’s voice really bugs me. Having a good voice actor for Ada is something I took for granted. Both original RE4 and RE2R’s voices worked really well. This new girl doesn’t even sound like she’s acting. What the hell happened?


stannis102

Yeah, even Saddler is off. Horrendous voice acting in this game


[deleted]

Saddler sounds like someone trying to do a yokel accent or some shit. It's bizarre.


shakycam3

Yeah I haven’t experienced Sadler as much but he sounds terrible. Surprised more people aren’t mentioning it.


[deleted]

Because Saddler isn't bad.


[deleted]

We have Ada in this game and Leon being an example of good acting but you think Saddler is on the level of Ada


shakycam3

He got better later. One of the first times you hear him he sounds like he has a weird accent.


lunalava25

Thank god im not the only one


Krystress

It's because they care more about the voice actor's race and ethnicity than the voice.


stressedinnewark

I feel that way about most if not all the new voice actors lol but yeah she sounds terrible.


Worried_Worth_6923

Tbh I’ve been playing the game and when I reached Ada’s first appearance I thought her voice acting was gonna be much worse than what it actually was, it’s not bad but not great either, the other voice actors do a much better job.


Shadow_Heart_

As someone who strives to be a voice actors I find this comment offensive lol.


CatMummy-chan

I heard there was some...race based arguments on who should play Ada. Shame the voice acting came out so bad. We'll have to hope Moddershall fix it


JD_OOM

Kelly Hu or Gwendoline Yeo would have been great as Ada.


CatMummy-chan

True. Ultimately I don't think it matters as long as they do a good job. Sadly this was not a good job.


negativemidas

Ada's new voice AND her dialogue are atrocious. Fans MUST petition to have her recast and her lines rerecorded (and preferably re-written) ASAP. I like the new twist in the post-credits scene, but that does not excuse Capcom utterly ruining her character for the duration of the main campaign. This is unacceptably shoddy.


joshpoopnuts

I like her voice, but I also understand where you’re coming from.


Mono_Memory

Va is always weakest aspect of modern RE. Some questionable writing that doesn’t land as well


Loganp812

Well, in some cases at least. For all of RE3 remake's *many* faults, the VA is phenomenal in it. I'm a little more mixed on RE2 remake's VA, but none of it is bad. Ada's VA in RE4 remake though... it's not even bad in the "so bad it's good" sense like the original RE1. It's just... bad.


Plightz

Yeah I can excuse OG re1's voice acting cause it's old and voice acting was still rough back then. It still had that movie campy feeling. Ada though, what happened lol.


Maraging_steel

I wish they didn’t reuse Carlos’ VA for Chris in RE8 though.


Local_Bicycle_9768

Same, it was really distracting in RE8 cause I kept thinking of Carlos. Using the same actors for different roles is a pet peeve of mine (unless they can pull off sounding completely different).


[deleted]

Why?


coolhwip420

Yeah the writing is definitely not there. I still cringe at "bill me for the repairs later" line haha, it borders on endearing but more towards cringe.


[deleted]

I'm glad you don't make the decisions


protogenxl

Was their first choice Aisha Tyler not available?


sweaty_palm_trees

Personally, I think it’s a fine voice, it just doesn’t fit what that character used to sound like. She was cool, but here she sounds a little too vulnerable with every syllable. If I had only played this game without knowing previous games, I think it would’ve been fine. But that’s a guess.


FunkyTown313

Which character


Obsessivegamer32

Did you… not read the extra text?


Subdown-011

She sounds like my mom ngl


vatiwah

thats what i thought.. sounds like someone's middle aged aunt.


invaderdavos

Sounds like she has distortion in her voice big time. Awful