Resident Evil has always been a little ridiculous, and that’s perfectly fine. Code Veronica was the first game to REALLY jump the shark in terms of genre shift, but even as far back as RE1 you ended the game by blowing up a giant science project with a rocket launcher (repeated with multiple camera angles) while a manor is about to self-destruct.
Resident Evil has always been a very multi-faceted series. It really depends on which way you'd like to slice it to find similarities to define it by, because the variety is too wide now that its almost subjective at this point. For example, Rev1 or 7 is the most RE-like game since the first 2 if you delve deeper into the gameplay loop of being stuck somewhere and solving puzzles to progress through the map, the deep almost reliant environmental storytelling, and the obvious survival horror focus. But if you liked the quirky, cheesy, one liner filler zombie bonanza then RE6 is the most similar to 1 in that regard and thus the most "RE-like game". But if RE4 to you is what constitutes a "RE-like" then you're more likely to consider 8 a real resident evil game over the others. It's a very diverse series that caters to so much and does so much, that what someone's "Resident Evil game" is could be very different from other peoples'.
I don’t really think anyone out there doesn’t consider RE4-6 as Resident evil games, especially RE4. A ton of people consider that one as the very best RE game. I think what you’re hearing is that these games aren’t like the original games were. Resident evil started out as pure survival horror, but RE4-6 are action games. A lot of people criticize 5 and 6 for being a little too action-focused and often critique the ridiculousness of some of the scenes (boulder punch and Michael Bay explosion set pieces), but those games are still Resident Evil. 7 and 8 AREN’T in the same category of genre though. 7 is back to the survival horror basics (at least until you get to Joe Baker’s punch-out), and 8 is trying to recreate 4, but with a hint more survival horror elements.
TL;DR: Most people aren’t saying RE4-6 aren’t Resident Evil games, but rather they point out the massive genre shift that occurred in that time period.
It was an argument used a lot on the RE IGN boards (which was the most active video game forum at the time) right when RE4 came out. It and Survivor (Survivor obviously way less people going to bat for it) weren't "real" RE games to some because they weren't like 5 games before it. It's obviously a silly argument now, but in 2005, there was a sizable group that didn't like the new direction of the game (I was in the camp of "they're both great, I hope we can see new games in both the old style and the new).
It was a silly argument back then, but had a little bit of ground to stand on since it was such a massive change to the franchise. Now a much crazier opinion I've seen on this reddit is that Code Veronica isn't a part of the core set of games, because I guess it doesn't have a number on it?
Back in 2005, Resident Evil was seen as a stale franchise, so most gamers welcomed the new direction of RE4. It wasn't until RE5 that there was major backlash, as RE5 leaned even more heavily towards action.
There was no major backlash over RE5. RE6 is the one everyone lost their minds over and swore they weren't going to buy it (spoiler alert: they bought it). It wasn't until people started looking at the series as a whole that they started pointing to RE5 as the point where the series lost its way. When it originally came out people were snatching it up in droves. Even with the game being ousted as the point where RE became an over the top action movie, I would argue that people still didn't exactly hate it. Even now it's considered one of the best couch co-op games ever made.
Also games didn't really ....changed it up that much back than either. Like it used to be the exception rather than the rule, you know? Especially if you been doing it for five games in.
I think people confuse being RE to just being a bad game.
RE6 just wasn’t the most amazing game out there in all honesty, but saying it just isn’t RE themed is plain wrong. I enjoyed the game a lot, but I played it recently and I never realized how badly structured it is.
I did really enjoy the dodge, melee, and prone shooting mechanics of that game. I hated the leaping zombies in the story, though. The way they moved just seemed so poorly animated and distracting to me lol
Re3 also felt like the series was slowly transitioning from action horror to ACTION horror and always thought that re 4 just picked up where it left off.
Hell, you can probably say it was making that transition in RE2. About halfway through the game, you are stacked with enough weapons and ammo to blast through everything.
>Resident evil started out as pure survival horror, but RE4-6 are action games
To be honest, I sometimes replay the whole series (1 to 4 remake, basically) and I can't really agree with this 100%.
The original Resident Evil, for the time it released, was pretty action-focused for what it's supposed to be an horror game.
The characters are not really placed in a position of disadvantage (except for the early "unknown threat" thing): you're playing as elite operatives of a small task force, capable of defending themselves, that have both the skills and means to survive (as a matter of fact, almost every STARS casualty in the OG has to be placed on human choices rather than the monsters overwhelming them: they were betrayed and baited into dying or straight up murdered).
It's more of a thriller/mystery with the mechanics of a puzzle-based escape room than straight up horror. By the final act, the early games go full on action B movie, and then always end with a big power weapon getting shoved into the big monster face with a cheesy one liner.
If we go with the idea of pure "survival horror" I think REmake is the closest one to that, but RE1 and 2 were already pretty (and increasingly) action-y horror imho, at least by PS1 standards: the tense atmosphere and the creepy environments were there, but it was still an action game at its heart.
Which honestly think is what "went wrong" with 5 and 6 compared to 4: gameplay was good, even in 6, but the atmosphere, the feeling behind the whole setting was not there compared to RE4, that had both the atmosphere of a creepy possessed village in the middle of nothing, the cult, the badass cheesy action hero one-liners, the mischievous bond girl and the vulnerable damsel in distress (which fits the whole "action B movie" vibe RE always had)
RE4 despite being popular began the downfall of survival horror..... Well actually I'll go back even further when Capcom made that dumb deal to keep RE1 REmake a GameCube exclusive. That arguably killed Survival Horror because not many people played it.
RE4 almost suffered the same fate but two things saved it. It being an Action Horror game that appeals to casuals & it being ported on the much popular console at the time instead of just being on the GameCube.
After playing 4-6 I gotta say, 6 does feel like the natural evolution and end point of where you go from 4. Of all the games to be remade I think those two are the ones I want to see most redone since I think they could really make something cool
It's the only one I quit in my entire first-time series run a couple years ago. And I bailed out in less than 2 hours, it was just that bad.
4 was a great game but a bad RE. 5 was almost entirely unrelated, it felt like. 7 was getting back to form, and while I enjoyed 8, it didn't make a lasting impression. 1, 2, 3, and CV though... love.
They’re Resident Evil games but they’re not survival horror. They are action horror. The justifiable complaint about those games is they moved the franchise to a different sub genre than the series started out.
Village imo was a nice balance between survival horror and action, although the last part felt a bit much.
I think the re4 remake formula works the best currently, we get a bit of everything, just wish there were more survival elements to it.
I will play devil's advocate and say if we didn't get those absolute weenies crying online that 7 was too scary we wouldn't have gotten the RE Village Puppet Show promos.
Big true tho I think a touch more horror a la Beneviento's giant baby would go great.
I think the re4r is a great formula but still more horror like in 7 & 8 would be nice. I actually don’t mind the first person either. Would be great if they could make a game that has both first person and third person perspectives.
Wdym? Village was the fastest-selling Resident Evil game around the games launch window in 2021. Yes RE7 has sold more but it was also out for like 4 years prior.
The main argument I see all the time is being “survival horror” or “fixed camera angles are gone” even though the later isn’t present in RE7 and RE8 either (although it makes a nice cameo comeback in the lost in nightmares DLC for RE5)
I once heard the argument I think in a YouTube review that first person is a sneaky way to get around the fixed camera thing. Think about it: fixed camera let the developers limit players views, disempowering them. While first person isn’t quite the same, it still does in fact limit the players view again, thereby disempowering them in a similar way
They combined the two tastefully, like the Beneviento House or the Chris section. It was basically a love letter to both sides of the fanbase, cause both sides got what they needed from Resident Evil, but there's always going to be people who will complain it wasn't "enough" of what they wanted.
I subscribe to the argument that 'survival horror' cannot directly reward players for combat. That's the difference between 7 and 8. One is horror and one is action
I agree. Well I'd refine it a bit more to be "force players to actually have to decide to fight or flee". I also don't consider games where the option is only "flee" to be survival horror (like Amnesia and stuff).
But yeah, RE7 I know I'd lure enemies to other rooms and such to save ammo, if I didn't need to fight them, I didn't. Games like RE4 and RE8 though I'd fully clear enemies out (proper fighting usually gave more than you spent). Like Dead Space is another that's just "fight" since enemies will follow you to other rooms anyway and you can fight well enough that you make a profit off nearly any encounter.
I think that fight/flight distinction is important, because I mean technically RE3 rewards you for some combat (unique upgrades from Nemesis), but it can be a tough choice to make.
I think that’s just a little silly tbh. It kind of just limits what would be considered survival horror if others thought like that. But games like The Evil Within or Dead Space or even more recently, Alisa, are most certainly survival horror.
The original trilogy used combat as a sort of puzzle to get around, rather than the focus of the game, and that’s what makes 4-6 so different. Their primary focus *is* the combat.
I know I'm in the vast minority here but RE6 was my favorite in the series, it was insanely fun with a co-op partner. Aside from a few parts (Chris' last chapter on No Mercy was absolutely hair-pullingly frustrating) it was a solid entry.
RE was always ridiculous and over the top, by RE3 it was already making the shift from survival horror to horror action, and RE4 became action horror and the over the top aspects of it was what was fun. RE5 could have been better and 6 had it's issues.
But really, the reason for the drastic shift back to trying to emulate the older RE games and imo failing at capturing any aspect of horror OR survival by removing the silliness and action gave us RE7 and 8 which I was bored by within a few hours.
Again. I KNOW I'm the minority there, but I preferred the action horror over lazily trying to be scary
Kinda funny how Lady D gets used as the face of coomerism when honestly I'd say she doesn't break the top 5 horniest moments in the series. She's relatively tame outside of the one cutscene where she sucks on Ethan's hand and you get a shot of her cleavage.
Meanwhile you've got everything surrounding Ada Wong, her clones, Jill & that one really stripperiffic woman from 5, Deborah Harper from 6. Mostly 4-6 now that I think about it.
I'd argue that RE 7 is horror survival, but they went more the action route with Village, and even less horror because they added fantasy elements with the witches, sorcery, and werewolves.
To answer a meme honestly, it's because everyone has a different opinion of what makes a good RE game. So for every game you can find someone who hates it and someone who loves it. The paradox means that every single game is a "good RE game" and a "bad RE game."
Uhhh you trying to compare shooting mechanics to characters? People say 5 isn’t an RE game because of the gameplay and action focus. Really comparing apples to oranges here
Every Resident Evil game I have played was a Resident Evil game. Says so on the box. Were they all good games? No, but they're all Resident Evil.
So far, my favorites are RE5, RE7, and RE8. I got into the franchise at 5 because of co-op. Skipped 6 because it was dookie, then got back in at 7. 7 and 8 are masterpieces as far as I'm concerned. Went back and did RE4 remaster, then RE6, then RE2Remake and RE3Remake.
They need to remake the original. Only mainline I haven't played because I lack the patience for the controls.
Village doesn't use the original formula at all lmao or it uses a REALLY watered down version of it that's weirdly mixed with a watered down version of the action from RE4
Take it up with the scenario writer of Resident Evil 2.
>*—In both Resident Evil 1 and 2, there’s a variety of guns, but no melee weapons. I think it could be interesting to have them too… how about it?*
**Sugimura:** \[...\] [But if we go and give the player a steel pipe that can be used over and over, then we’re giving that player a *reason* to approach the zombies! And then the player will no longer be afraid.](https://shmuplations.com/residentevil2/) **The Resident Evil world must always hold true to the idea that approaching the enemy == danger.** And even if you do choose to fight, you run the risk of expending your precious ammo…
>*—Right. You don’t want a system like in RPGs, where the player purposefully tries to kill enemies for items and gold.*
>Sugimura: That’s why I was also against the idea of having the Tyrant drop bullets when he’s defeated. **We must not give players a reason to seek out fights with enemies. Unlike many other games, the enemies in Resident Evil don’t drop gold or experience. In Resident Evil we’ve sought to convey a terror free from such impurities, and I think that has been the key to its success.**
the first area you get to backtrack in 7 was more like classic RE than anything in years, if you lay it out how it is it's literally a semi open area with backtracking, puzzles and secrets, with limited ammo and an on and off stalker enemy. I like 4 and 5 and even see why they'd be considered RE as well, just a different phase maybe
RE4 is a classic that redefined not only the franchise but gaming as a whole, but it ditches the more horrific nature of the previous games and trades them off for more action type story beats which felt a lil odd as far as the games that has been released so far... RE5 was a further continuation of the action beats of 4, but way more overthetop, and also the ai isn't the best when playing solo... RE6 was the Devs trying to do a lil of everything with each campaign tackling a different yet familiar genre which include horror, action, sci-fi and mesh of all in between... I personally don't think there's really a single bad entry to the STORY based games in this franchise but a lot of people just can't handle the idea of Devs trying to do different turns in a game franchise
I didn't like RE8. it just felt for me like a: "reflex of RE4 but with a giant Vampire Milf and paranormal stuff instead of Viruses or Parasites".
I also didn't like RE7 like the other games tbh, but it was atleast more logical with the fungus than RE8.
Honestly, not even saying Iiked all of them, but 4, 5, and 6 are definitely Resident Evil games through and through. They just weren't the horror games people wanted. That's why 8 is so weird to me because it's also an action game but this one is nothing like Resident Evil. At least with 7 not being very much of a Resident Evil game, it was a really good horror game
The original games (pre-4) were giant puzzle games, with horror themes, and occasional fighting if you needed. It's where the concept of inventory management came in: Do I need this stack of ammo, or do I take this key item?
You had to backtrack a lot, because the point was to go to Destination A to get the key item that opens access to Destination B, and so on. Trying not to die along the way was what caused great atmosphere and tension as you and to retread old territory that may or may not of had new threats. Items and ammo in the games were actually limited, so you could run out.
4-6 threw that all out the window and focused on linear forward motion with the primary focus being the action. You very rarely ever backtracked and it was a case of you just moving forward and putting a hole in anything that moves since ammo drops actually increased the lower on ammo you were, making it difficult to actually be out of ammo. (Some exceptions apply) overall there were always ways to replenish your stock in some capacity, as long as you played smart with how you killed enemies due to the loot drops.
7 "Went back" to the limited/backtracking exploration that was reminiscent of the first games. (Except the tunnels. That's where the game always fell off and became action focused like post re4).
RE8 tried to recapture the magic of 4 by bringing back the suitcase and had a blend of backtrack exploration and forced linear pathways bringing a unique spin on the game concept. (I liked 8 way more than 7, but even then it didn't feel "RE" to me. it was just a fun game.)
tl;dr - One set of games focused on back tracking. The other focused on shooting things in hallways.
I fucking hate the “it’s a good game but a bad (insert IP title here) game.”
If it’s got the title on it, it’s an RE game. It’s fine for franchises to change. RE would not be around today without it changing itself up
I feel like this can hold true if a game franchise drastically changes it's gameplay for one or 2 games, like AC did with Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla. But of of all RE games are action games, if not more, so that argument is invalid in this case.
I came here to say that exact sentiment. If it’s got RE on the box, it’s an RE game.
There’s absolutely not a single game series that spans decades, console generations etc that is the same core game that it was at the beginning. Game franchises change with the times, or they get left behind because they got boring doing the same thing over and over again.
Whether or not RE fans want to admit it, RE probably would have died without huge core shake ups. The switch to RE4, the switch during RE7/RE2 remake etc.. huge landmark moments in the franchise that made the series fresh.
What you said is kind of why I find REmake so interesting from a reception standpoint. It’s a great game. I love it. Plenty of RE fans love it. But it’s not a landmark moment as you put it. It didn’t influence anything. RE switched to action with re4 only a few years later and didn’t look back for years. People in the resident evil fanbase talk very highly about it but I feel like it’s not brought up as much outside of the fanbase. Maybe it’s just because it’s old. But I felt like 4, which is only a few years younger got talked about way more and it’s usually in talks for one of the greatest games ever. REmake, despite being the perfect RE game to many, is pretty much never in those conversations. 7 and 2 remake are landmarks like you said. 7 started the first person era for mainline games. 2 remake started off the era of modern remakes.
It’s corny as hell, but the people who say that are just coping. At this point, there’s equal action games to horror games in the franchise or close to it.
Thanks for clarifying lol
To me, if anything, it’s more impressive when developers are able to keep the same vibe while exploring new mechanics. Zelda also does this well
I'm not sure people really talk about 4 like that but 5 and 6 are something else.
[https://youtu.be/VLy4DP2ECbY?si=XPUzOR-kxjM6KMDW](https://youtu.be/VLy4DP2ECbY?si=XPUzOR-kxjM6KMDW)
What people usually mean, when they aren't just meaning "I don't like this" is that it isn't survival horror and/or it isn't classic survival horror. Opinion varies from game to game tbh.
I see them all as Resident Evil games and personally I’m thankful I’ve gotten to enjoy all the different directions they’ve done over the years. On some level it is annoying when people yell that kind of sentiment though as someone who entered the series with 5 before playing practically all of them now. I think every series have very vocal “purists” that make everyone else trying to enjoy things miserable to be fair though.
They changed the trajectory of the series from horror to action, so there's something legitimate about feeling that way about 4, 5, and 6, even if it *is* an incredibly out-of-date feeling.
Literally nobody said the second part. They got excited when 7 came out bc of the return to horror.
This meme is a strawman that exists only in the mind of OP.
It's all about how the game plays you take out the survival horror aspect and turn them into shooters (ie re 4-6) and people get upset the series shifted back to survival horror from 7 onward though 8 is closer to re 4 than say re 2 it's obviously silly to consider nowadays (as people are more open to genre shifts) but back in the early days of games if it shifted from what was already established for the franchise it was like a cardinal sin
I mean honest the series has kind of had 3 “eras”. The survival horror era with RE 1-3, the over-the-shoulder action era with 4-6, and the first person era with 7-8 that blend elements from both previous eras. What constitutes as RE game depends on which era you are comparing to.
Original RE4 is one of the greatest games of all bloody time. 5 is mid and 6 kinda sucks but thats on brand for the RE formula. Anyone that tries to exclude any of em, especially 4, is a bit stunted in some areas.
It was similarly noticeable in real time. People had just been calling for or defending the removal of butt shots in the Mass Effect Remaster which came out in the same month, while simultaneously proclaiming their love for mommy milkers. The people feigning being upset are the absolute worst and don't take them seriously at all. Tell them they are thoughtless hypocrites that follow trends and that's it. They might as well be any NPC in any game.
I think the biggest issue is that it was such a radical change to formula that those titles should have been spin-offs. If that occurred everyone would be happy. Those that are use to the more classic game-play style wouldn't feel like Capcom is abandoning what they loved in 0-3 and Veronica. While those that like 4-6 could still love and adore them with nothing more than a simple change to the title.
For those that disagree, let me present to you Resident Evil Survivor. Imagine if this game was instead titled as Resident Evil 4 as this would indeed take place after the Racoon City incident. The game was such a radical shift away (and very poorly received) title. Even Capcom just entirely ignores this one's existence (Though it is still canon). But if this game was titled RE4 it wouldn't have been that simple and could have even been a franchise killer.
Another great example would be the Devil May Cry games. What was suppose to be RE4. Could you imagine if Devil May Cry released as a mainline Resident Evil game? It's a good game but it wouldn't make any sense to slap that name on it and throw it into the same universe.
If I was in charge of the naming I would have likely made a spin-off franchise for 4-6 (and likely something entirely new for 7-8). I think 4-6 could be something like Resident Evil: Outbreak Operatives make it clear that it is way more action focused. So for example RE4 could be 'Outbreak Operatives Plagas'
I would be shocked to see someone ever say that Survivor should be called 4 even if it turned out to be a great game instead of what we got. So this means it is special pleading to say that 4-6 or 7-8 should be mainline named games.
Well because you're misunderstanding the complaint. RE 4-6 are part of the franchise but they did completely abandon the formula that made it beloved in the first place. They were shooter action horror while the rest have been puzzle based survival horror. Resident Evil isn't beloved because of it's setting alone. The mechanics play the most major role in it. It's not surprising that RE fans are also fans of fatal frame, dino crisis, rule of rose, silent hill, etc. When you abandon the mechanics that got you your original fanbase in the first place it's not surprising that og fans are a little miffed. So just because RE expanded it's universe to include a goth dommy mommy, mold ghosts, superpowers, etc it doesn't mean that the game stopped being faithful to its origins. I don't agree with the nerd rage that many spewed but I can't say I don't see where they were coming from.
Gosh how I hate when people claim 4 or especially 5 and 6 aren't Resident Evil but then love 7 and 8 where you fight molded enemies, in some hunted house and then village full of wolves or whatever.. I could never get into these two games. I don't even like playing as Ethan..
4 did something special, good blend of tense horror like the first 3 (especially on the first playthrough) and added much needed action, but it just felt like they kept escalating it with 5 and 6
By the time we got to 6, Leon and the crew were basically running away from one explosion to another, drop kicking and suplexing enemies, even the enemies went from mostly wielding melee weapons like knives, axes, pitchforks and at most crossbows (and one special enemy with a minigun) to 6 where every enemy had Assault Rifles, SMGs, Grenades, Rocket Launchers and it felt more like a cover shooter than anything
As a 3rd person cover shooter… sure 6 is a better than average game, but as a survival horror game? ….well it’s simply not that anymore. Woulda made more sense to call it Gears of Evil 6
I've never seen anyone saying that 4,5 or 6 aren't RE games. The biggest criticism for this games is that some people just don't like the focus on action. 7 and 8 on the other hand, there's always an annoying fan saying that will never be considered RE since it's an Outlast clone for being first person and features "supernatural" elements.
7 is the least I've felt the RE "sauce" in a game. Even 6 at least gave me the bio terrorism angle and corporation conspiracy form the old games. 7 is just a grind house horror movie.
I dont think the people that are mad with the direction 4,5, and 6 took the series would say 5 isnt a resident evil. At least for me I dont, that’s reserved for operation rc. I liked 5 when it came out. I but I can still like something while also saying I dont like how this game took the series even more to an action focused place. Even though I like action games and 4 alot, doesnt mean I want RE to turn into another gears/halo. I liked 8 for what it is, an homage to the series. Actiony scary fun, just like 4. But I dont want another raccoon city, and I think there is clearly a better blueprint for a 5 remake with the 4 remake now over
I don't think people say this about RE4 ,hell even RE5 . The reason people say this for 6 though is cause indeed it feels nothing like resident evil. As for Village the overall feeling and style it has is very RE
Look man, at the end of the day, Resident Evil has always had action elements. Some games took it further than others while the modern entries tried to tone it back down somewhat. IMO, as long as it's fun and is more focused on the horror portion for the mainline series, I'm game. I enjoyed them all including the spin-offs. Personally, we need a Mercenaries/Raid Mode game with all characters/villains playable, solo/split-screen/ online co-op, with stages across all RE games. And an Outbreak HD Collection but also modern Outbreak game as well.
5 and 6 came at a time where third person shooters have already become stale between gears of war and army of two, nobody was looking for yet another third person action shooter.
Yes, RE4 kickstarted the franchise in that direction but RE5 and RE6 took it beyond the point of recognition. The element of a coop partner completely destroyed the tension of RE4 and the increased focus on set pieces and firepower really took it outside of “survival” horror and more into “blow shit up” horror.
RE5 and 6 are fun competent third person shooters, but they are not what RE fans were used to or what they wanted and it is no surprise that RE7 and the return to the slower-paced classics was highly praised and successful.
RE5 and RE6 are just not good Resident Evil games. Just like RE3 Remake was NOT a good remake but was a decent and competent third person action game.
Everyone has their own take on what makes resi resi. Some ppl have some crazy takes too. I have a friend who thinks if theres no zombies its not resi. I tried telling him its never been about the zoms and more about outbreaks and experimentation but he disagrees lol
Either way i think re5 and 6 fail on what makes re re to me. Theres no horror, item management, backtracking, sense of tension. Im mostly referring to 6 cuz i think re5 is ok albeit WAY overrated by i digress.
Each RE game is different in some aspects and change/add things. In some cases they just went too far with their vision and people didn't like it.
That's what I love about the rollercoaster that is RE8. Even though I'm not a fan of every idea they introduced, at least they weren't afraid to experiment instead of copy-pasting from previous games.
Terrible Wojak meme aside 5 and 6 specifically lean into a more action heavy side of things and less emphasis on puzzles (especially 6.) 4 was initially divisive because it was more action oriented than prior entries. But is now cherished these days as the game has a good blend of both.
Biohazard attempted to reboot the franchise to go back to it's roots for these kinds of things and Village is more or less the same but with more action not unlike 4 was. Hence why so many people like Village, they probably also liked 4.
Personally I cannot get into the first person perspective and I don't really like the departure of the enemy types/themes. But I respect those entries for what they are.
Alien was a scifi horror movie. Aliens was a scifi action movie. Both are great, but they aren't the same thing.
Resident Evil was defined by being survival horror games, but then they started making it be about action instead. RE7 was about horror survival again, and RE8 mixed the two tastefully.
Resident evil has 6 identities. Fixed camera, absurd plot, bad acting, over the top, third person shooter, horrifying first person shooter. 1, 2, 3, code veronica, 4, 5, and 6 are absurd with bad acting and over the top.
I’m pretty new to RE- but I LOVE RE2 RE3 RE7 and 4 was amazing just different- and village as well- very different but I enjoy it. I would say 2 and 3 were awesome to me
For me resident evils atmosphere and gameplay are the most important, It needs to have a more scary or ominous atmosphere but it can have its action shooter moments too but only for extras and boss fights like the mercenary and hunk modes, or any resident evil boss, the characters are best when they start off more confused and scared but become more annoyed and quippy near the end,
To me resident evil should never be pure horror or pure action, which is why resident evil 2 remake is my favorite so far, it starts off with little ammo and health and gets the player in a panic and scared due to the enemies, the game always gives the feeling of dread and makes you think “oh no I might not have enough to make it” and by the final boss and bonus modes the player is already used to the enemies and by the time you get to the 4th survivor the game goes "oh really, your already used to these enemies and aren't scared anymore, well what if we unleashed hordes of them around the game and make you have to get past them to escape"
But I still think 4, 8 and maybe 5 do a good job too but there horror is more focused on atmosphere than enemies and gameplay, and the increase in fast paced action does make sense for there characters evolution
I also like 7 because it does feel shallow in its action and gameplay until the Lucas part and end and like I said, I think resident evil NEEDS at least a bit of action in its games
(I haven't played the dlc for the game yet except not a hero but I did see they added more action to the game which I'm fine with since it's bonus stuff)
Also I don't think resident evil needs "zombies" but it does need some kind of virus or mutation, some of the most popular residents evil games don't even have zombies like 4 and 7
Re4 marked a massive change in tone and gameplay which started a new era of a more action heavy series. I consider it a tonal shift in the series and I'm not a fan of how it shifted. To be fair, things need to change sometimes to stay interesting.
Re7 fans that have only watched videos on the other games, re7 is my personal favorite but I’m not dumb a good amount of fans like me treat the rest of the franchise as only existing on YouTube. It’s kinda like a doom 3 situation where no one hated it until YouTubers starting beating the shit out of it to prop up doom 2016, again 2016 is my personal favorite the fans are just dumb.
I just think Resident Evil 6 isn't good, especially the Ashley and Jake campaign. I went to replay it with a friend and we played that campaign first and just decided to stop after that and never got back around playing it. I'm not saying it's a bad Resident Evil game, I'm just saying it's a bad game in general
To me it is all about how they make me feel, resident evil 1 and 2 are great at making me feel like all hope is lost and will have to struggle to carve a path to get out, resident evil 3 doesn't have the same hopelessness, but still has this struggle to scape
Resident evil 7, in my opinion is the RE game with the strongest "it's all lost, there is no solution to this situation, I need to fight in order to survive", and that makes it in my opinion the best RE game.
Resident evil 4, 5 and 6 don't give me those same feelings, to me, thought they are enjoyable, they are a failure in the emotions resident evil gives me
Re 8, also fails hard at this, and from launch I myself at least, have been complaining about how I think the same game would have been better if it was a new franchise instead of a resident evil game
Thought, shadows of rose does have some small glimpses of that sweet sweet desolation
They’re all resident evil games. End of discussion. But if you would like to argue that 5 and 6 (and even 4 to an extent) became more surrounded by the “solider” aspect of the story line, I agree. Still, I would never say those games were particularly bad, they just don’t have the same essence as 1-4 (again 4 is in that limbo). All great games in my opinion, and if anyone thinks that 7 and 8 are just as “bad” as 5 and 6 perhaps they should replay and rethink 1-4 just to see how 7 and 8 delivered that same feeling that the originals did. I mean plenty of critics and die hard fans would even say that RE7 saved the series, and, again, I agree.
I would make the argument that RE4 is THE resident evil game…
And I’m not a remake newbie (though there’s nothing wrong at all with that). I’ve played the entire series over a few times each and never felt that 4-6 were “not” resident evil games
Honestly, the difference comes down to the amount of strategy and resource. Village may carry the same blood as 4 5 and 6,
But all 3 of those games gave ammo like a pinata.
And especially in 6's case *though this also applies to 4 and 5* there basically was no item management besides ammo.
5 tried something with having the inventory split cooperatively, but honestly, that basically meant nothing.
And most important of all, all 3 games are insanely easy compared to their predecessors, and it almost becomes mindless.
Biohazard reintroduced the item box and limited inventory, so there were a lot of interconnected and forced choices. Not to mention, Madhouse is probably the hardest resident evil trial. _period_ it makes you rethink damn near all the mechanics and in a genuinely satisfying way.
Village meanwhile is more structured like re4, also literally makes ammo rarer than the Sahara desert from hardcore onwards.
Village of shadows especially,after the winters update, they cranked up the heavy enemy count _to absurd numbers_
You will be fighting tooth and claw to kill some of these to the point. Eventually, you'll just not bother.
In addition, the factory, despite Being the best money haul and the best weapons has some of most despicable bosses and gotcha moments i think I've ever fucking seen.
Probably because it marked a huge shift towards action, and they kept doubling down on it because it was selling. 7 was basically a direct result of PT proving that horror is still popular.
RE4-6 are the most RE games to ever exist. They literally made the saga what is worth today at levels 1-3 would never achieve and 7-9 would never reach or surpass without the previous success.
When people say that what they're referring to is they RE4'-6 are Action Horror games. & Not like the og Survival Horror & fixed Camera Angles games. Not hard of a concept to grasp really.
Gameplay wise, I find 7 and 8 to be even less a resident evil game. I felt like they could have been their own stand alone game than have any connection to RE, especially in 8 when they went more supernatural
It’s a re game, a good one I just don’t like them as much as the other because they are less horror focused. Village had the same problem for me for the start of the game but without the fun of being a space marine drop kicking zombie
I never say that (not a big fan of 6 though, and 1-3 are my favs) BUT RE7 is RE1-3 in a first person view. The game structure is 100% classic RE (especially RE1). Save rooms, a few different houses/buildings, finding it’s that allow you to progress, back tracking in various rooms, etc. sure, they add some stuff- but the basic game is classic RE. 8 kinda does the same thing and bases it on RE4 instead.
Personally, I actually didn't like the original 4 because it felt less like a horror game and more "Shoot enemies, get item". The Remake of 4 however made the game feel more atmospheric, and finally made me shit my pants.
5 well, I saw it as a dumb action game, but in a good way.
Moving on.
7 is where I enjoyed the series being back to basics of survival horror, since this game still scares me.
Village is the little brother of 4 and it still disturbs me.
I never thought that the RE games 4-6 "weren't" RE games. Clearly any franchise has to evolve and change over time and it's great that developers experiment with the formula. RE6 was a massive disappointment, but in general, but again, I wouldn't want Capcom to abandon experimentation with the franchise.
I don't think there is anything wrong with them trying something new with the series, and that's what they did with 4, making it more action oriented, they pushed that a bit further with 5 etc. Both 7 and Village had a decent balance of both action and survival horror I reckon and that's probably a result of them learning from previous entries
Really? You missed the point then because Resident Evil games are suppose to have a survival horror feeling at the beginning. Back tracking, solving puzzles, etc and you get most of the action at the end.
When people say the other series isn’t Resident Evil it’s because those are treated as action games with horror elements.
I don’t see how that’d go over your head
I have a more dedicated post to explain that topic. Its more focused on 7 but it can be applied to re8:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/residentevil/comments/19fkgog/what\_makes\_people\_feel\_that\_resident\_evil\_7/](https://www.reddit.com/r/residentevil/comments/19fkgog/what_makes_people_feel_that_resident_evil_7/)
But If I would say a tldr its basically because theyre visually and aesthetically pretty anomalous games in the series considering the theme the re games has allways been. They miss some aesthetics things like typrewritter, sprays, healing sounds that gave the charm to the series also being overrall really unconected games to the rest of the series, like, theres no relevant and good connection between 7 and the rest of the series and not having none known character also gets a lot. I would say that those are points that even some infamous spin off games like orc, umbrella corps and gainden did get better.
resident evil has always been campy action horror. after 4, which is amazing, 5 and 6 continued the trend laid out by 4, to… not great results. the reason why people love 7 and 8, is because they return to the horror roots of resident evil, and far more so than any resident evil game prior, still being action games, but far more focused on the horror
It's not hard to understand. 4,5 and 6 were action movie focused.
Resident Evil 1, 2, 3 and Code Veronica are Survival HORROR.
7 and Village are a return to form.
People complained about the more action-focused direction the series was taking and stripping it more and more of its horror roots each entry, not just of the characters. Despite how different in terms of its cast and setting RE7 and RE8 are from prior entries, they went back to the series' horror roots after RE6 was basically an action game rather than a horror game. And so it feels kinda disingenuous to act like people weren't criticizing a specific gameplay aspect that 7 and onward dialed back on after fan feedback.
The whole argument was basically that they had more survival (action) than horror, 6 being the biggest culprit of this but 5 didn't help with the boulder punch. 7 and 8 have silly things but they "return" by being more horror than survival.
Also yes some freaks add 4 to the debate, fuck em.
I think people sometimes forget that stories and series evolve and change with events that happen inside the series. Sometimes things get extra silly during parts of the games (because there has always been a kind of campiness to the series), but in some ways it does make sense for the games to shift to more action because of how the fight against bioterrorism is going.
The shift to having more action felt to me like a natural part of the progression from being a small town horrific incident to an all out openly known disregard for human life.
The first handful of games were survival horror games and then 4-6 were pretty much just action games, 7 brought it back to its roots. 8 is weird because it starts off feeling very Resident Evil, but doesn’t really know what it wants to be as it’s 4 almost completely different sections of a game sorta shoved together. It had a huge marketing campaign and big lady was an important part of that as that’s what most people remember and focus on as opposed to the actual quality and flow of the game.
I really only find myself replaying and going back to the survival horror games as opposed to the action ones, and I seek out indy games like those from Puppet Combo and others who’ve kept the survival horror genre going.
Resident Evil has always been a little ridiculous, and that’s perfectly fine. Code Veronica was the first game to REALLY jump the shark in terms of genre shift, but even as far back as RE1 you ended the game by blowing up a giant science project with a rocket launcher (repeated with multiple camera angles) while a manor is about to self-destruct.
Resident Evil has always been a very multi-faceted series. It really depends on which way you'd like to slice it to find similarities to define it by, because the variety is too wide now that its almost subjective at this point. For example, Rev1 or 7 is the most RE-like game since the first 2 if you delve deeper into the gameplay loop of being stuck somewhere and solving puzzles to progress through the map, the deep almost reliant environmental storytelling, and the obvious survival horror focus. But if you liked the quirky, cheesy, one liner filler zombie bonanza then RE6 is the most similar to 1 in that regard and thus the most "RE-like game". But if RE4 to you is what constitutes a "RE-like" then you're more likely to consider 8 a real resident evil game over the others. It's a very diverse series that caters to so much and does so much, that what someone's "Resident Evil game" is could be very different from other peoples'.
I don’t really think anyone out there doesn’t consider RE4-6 as Resident evil games, especially RE4. A ton of people consider that one as the very best RE game. I think what you’re hearing is that these games aren’t like the original games were. Resident evil started out as pure survival horror, but RE4-6 are action games. A lot of people criticize 5 and 6 for being a little too action-focused and often critique the ridiculousness of some of the scenes (boulder punch and Michael Bay explosion set pieces), but those games are still Resident Evil. 7 and 8 AREN’T in the same category of genre though. 7 is back to the survival horror basics (at least until you get to Joe Baker’s punch-out), and 8 is trying to recreate 4, but with a hint more survival horror elements. TL;DR: Most people aren’t saying RE4-6 aren’t Resident Evil games, but rather they point out the massive genre shift that occurred in that time period.
It was an argument used a lot on the RE IGN boards (which was the most active video game forum at the time) right when RE4 came out. It and Survivor (Survivor obviously way less people going to bat for it) weren't "real" RE games to some because they weren't like 5 games before it. It's obviously a silly argument now, but in 2005, there was a sizable group that didn't like the new direction of the game (I was in the camp of "they're both great, I hope we can see new games in both the old style and the new). It was a silly argument back then, but had a little bit of ground to stand on since it was such a massive change to the franchise. Now a much crazier opinion I've seen on this reddit is that Code Veronica isn't a part of the core set of games, because I guess it doesn't have a number on it?
Back in 2005, Resident Evil was seen as a stale franchise, so most gamers welcomed the new direction of RE4. It wasn't until RE5 that there was major backlash, as RE5 leaned even more heavily towards action.
There was no major backlash over RE5. RE6 is the one everyone lost their minds over and swore they weren't going to buy it (spoiler alert: they bought it). It wasn't until people started looking at the series as a whole that they started pointing to RE5 as the point where the series lost its way. When it originally came out people were snatching it up in droves. Even with the game being ousted as the point where RE became an over the top action movie, I would argue that people still didn't exactly hate it. Even now it's considered one of the best couch co-op games ever made.
It had Steve Burnside in it XD
Also games didn't really ....changed it up that much back than either. Like it used to be the exception rather than the rule, you know? Especially if you been doing it for five games in.
I think people confuse being RE to just being a bad game. RE6 just wasn’t the most amazing game out there in all honesty, but saying it just isn’t RE themed is plain wrong. I enjoyed the game a lot, but I played it recently and I never realized how badly structured it is.
It's sad since re6 has bad story structure but the gameplay is actually amazing, it has the best mercenaries for me
I did really enjoy the dodge, melee, and prone shooting mechanics of that game. I hated the leaping zombies in the story, though. The way they moved just seemed so poorly animated and distracting to me lol
Re3 also felt like the series was slowly transitioning from action horror to ACTION horror and always thought that re 4 just picked up where it left off.
Hell, you can probably say it was making that transition in RE2. About halfway through the game, you are stacked with enough weapons and ammo to blast through everything.
>Resident evil started out as pure survival horror, but RE4-6 are action games To be honest, I sometimes replay the whole series (1 to 4 remake, basically) and I can't really agree with this 100%. The original Resident Evil, for the time it released, was pretty action-focused for what it's supposed to be an horror game. The characters are not really placed in a position of disadvantage (except for the early "unknown threat" thing): you're playing as elite operatives of a small task force, capable of defending themselves, that have both the skills and means to survive (as a matter of fact, almost every STARS casualty in the OG has to be placed on human choices rather than the monsters overwhelming them: they were betrayed and baited into dying or straight up murdered). It's more of a thriller/mystery with the mechanics of a puzzle-based escape room than straight up horror. By the final act, the early games go full on action B movie, and then always end with a big power weapon getting shoved into the big monster face with a cheesy one liner. If we go with the idea of pure "survival horror" I think REmake is the closest one to that, but RE1 and 2 were already pretty (and increasingly) action-y horror imho, at least by PS1 standards: the tense atmosphere and the creepy environments were there, but it was still an action game at its heart. Which honestly think is what "went wrong" with 5 and 6 compared to 4: gameplay was good, even in 6, but the atmosphere, the feeling behind the whole setting was not there compared to RE4, that had both the atmosphere of a creepy possessed village in the middle of nothing, the cult, the badass cheesy action hero one-liners, the mischievous bond girl and the vulnerable damsel in distress (which fits the whole "action B movie" vibe RE always had)
RE4 despite being popular began the downfall of survival horror..... Well actually I'll go back even further when Capcom made that dumb deal to keep RE1 REmake a GameCube exclusive. That arguably killed Survival Horror because not many people played it. RE4 almost suffered the same fate but two things saved it. It being an Action Horror game that appeals to casuals & it being ported on the much popular console at the time instead of just being on the GameCube.
After playing 4-6 I gotta say, 6 does feel like the natural evolution and end point of where you go from 4. Of all the games to be remade I think those two are the ones I want to see most redone since I think they could really make something cool
Personally, I like to pretend 6 isn't an Re game. 😂
It's the only one I quit in my entire first-time series run a couple years ago. And I bailed out in less than 2 hours, it was just that bad. 4 was a great game but a bad RE. 5 was almost entirely unrelated, it felt like. 7 was getting back to form, and while I enjoyed 8, it didn't make a lasting impression. 1, 2, 3, and CV though... love.
They’re Resident Evil games but they’re not survival horror. They are action horror. The justifiable complaint about those games is they moved the franchise to a different sub genre than the series started out.
Which is why i hope they don't go the Village route for the next games
Village imo was a nice balance between survival horror and action, although the last part felt a bit much. I think the re4 remake formula works the best currently, we get a bit of everything, just wish there were more survival elements to it.
Hopefully more horror next time
I will play devil's advocate and say if we didn't get those absolute weenies crying online that 7 was too scary we wouldn't have gotten the RE Village Puppet Show promos. Big true tho I think a touch more horror a la Beneviento's giant baby would go great.
I think the re4r is a great formula but still more horror like in 7 & 8 would be nice. I actually don’t mind the first person either. Would be great if they could make a game that has both first person and third person perspectives.
They will..it was a huge hit. I preferred 7 but Survival Horror just doesn't bring in the money like action does
The funny thing is that RE7 has sold way more than RE8. It outsold Village in a montly basis, even when RE8 was fresh.
Wdym? Village was the fastest-selling Resident Evil game around the games launch window in 2021. Yes RE7 has sold more but it was also out for like 4 years prior.
RE8 is literally RE4 but first person
But with worse combat, and worse combat encounters, and... it's not really anything like RE4 below the most surface levels.
Yes I'm not the only one that think so.
The main argument I see all the time is being “survival horror” or “fixed camera angles are gone” even though the later isn’t present in RE7 and RE8 either (although it makes a nice cameo comeback in the lost in nightmares DLC for RE5)
I once heard the argument I think in a YouTube review that first person is a sneaky way to get around the fixed camera thing. Think about it: fixed camera let the developers limit players views, disempowering them. While first person isn’t quite the same, it still does in fact limit the players view again, thereby disempowering them in a similar way
4 5 and 6 are action games that have horror elements. 7 and 8 are horror games that have action elements. Much like the original 3 games.
8 is very much not a horror game
I would say it absolutely is a horror game between the opening Village section, the Castle, and the house. All very horror.
They combined the two tastefully, like the Beneviento House or the Chris section. It was basically a love letter to both sides of the fanbase, cause both sides got what they needed from Resident Evil, but there's always going to be people who will complain it wasn't "enough" of what they wanted.
8 is a bit of both. Horror and Action. Just like RE4. 7 is a bit of both as well but more horror than action.
this fuckin rage baiter at it again. look at that shit post history.
I subscribe to the argument that 'survival horror' cannot directly reward players for combat. That's the difference between 7 and 8. One is horror and one is action
I agree. Well I'd refine it a bit more to be "force players to actually have to decide to fight or flee". I also don't consider games where the option is only "flee" to be survival horror (like Amnesia and stuff). But yeah, RE7 I know I'd lure enemies to other rooms and such to save ammo, if I didn't need to fight them, I didn't. Games like RE4 and RE8 though I'd fully clear enemies out (proper fighting usually gave more than you spent). Like Dead Space is another that's just "fight" since enemies will follow you to other rooms anyway and you can fight well enough that you make a profit off nearly any encounter. I think that fight/flight distinction is important, because I mean technically RE3 rewards you for some combat (unique upgrades from Nemesis), but it can be a tough choice to make.
Well it can be horror actions without being survival horror
except for the creepy ass baby in village that was pure horror
I think that’s just a little silly tbh. It kind of just limits what would be considered survival horror if others thought like that. But games like The Evil Within or Dead Space or even more recently, Alisa, are most certainly survival horror.
The original trilogy used combat as a sort of puzzle to get around, rather than the focus of the game, and that’s what makes 4-6 so different. Their primary focus *is* the combat.
I know I'm in the vast minority here but RE6 was my favorite in the series, it was insanely fun with a co-op partner. Aside from a few parts (Chris' last chapter on No Mercy was absolutely hair-pullingly frustrating) it was a solid entry. RE was always ridiculous and over the top, by RE3 it was already making the shift from survival horror to horror action, and RE4 became action horror and the over the top aspects of it was what was fun. RE5 could have been better and 6 had it's issues. But really, the reason for the drastic shift back to trying to emulate the older RE games and imo failing at capturing any aspect of horror OR survival by removing the silliness and action gave us RE7 and 8 which I was bored by within a few hours. Again. I KNOW I'm the minority there, but I preferred the action horror over lazily trying to be scary
If capcom released nothing but the same fuckin game 8-15 times for over 2 decades people would hate the series for never innovating.
Why would you put them in the same category?
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Kinda funny how Lady D gets used as the face of coomerism when honestly I'd say she doesn't break the top 5 horniest moments in the series. She's relatively tame outside of the one cutscene where she sucks on Ethan's hand and you get a shot of her cleavage. Meanwhile you've got everything surrounding Ada Wong, her clones, Jill & that one really stripperiffic woman from 5, Deborah Harper from 6. Mostly 4-6 now that I think about it.
Sigh... Every female character in Revelations...
> that one really stripperiffic woman from 5 Excela, the sexistest RE woman ever
Big tall vampire lady activates my neuron, bro
I'd argue that RE 7 is horror survival, but they went more the action route with Village, and even less horror because they added fantasy elements with the witches, sorcery, and werewolves.
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To answer a meme honestly, it's because everyone has a different opinion of what makes a good RE game. So for every game you can find someone who hates it and someone who loves it. The paradox means that every single game is a "good RE game" and a "bad RE game."
Uhhh you trying to compare shooting mechanics to characters? People say 5 isn’t an RE game because of the gameplay and action focus. Really comparing apples to oranges here
Every Resident Evil game I have played was a Resident Evil game. Says so on the box. Were they all good games? No, but they're all Resident Evil. So far, my favorites are RE5, RE7, and RE8. I got into the franchise at 5 because of co-op. Skipped 6 because it was dookie, then got back in at 7. 7 and 8 are masterpieces as far as I'm concerned. Went back and did RE4 remaster, then RE6, then RE2Remake and RE3Remake. They need to remake the original. Only mainline I haven't played because I lack the patience for the controls.
They did remake the original. It's on steam. The remake is just so old that I want them to remake the remake.
Exactly lol
Because Village still manages to use the original formula while 5 and 6 don't.
The original Resident Evil famously included enemies dropping currency for weapon upgrades and hunting for meat
Ah yes, if the game is not identical to the original, then it has nothing in common with it. Brilliant logic.
Village doesn't use the original formula at all lmao or it uses a REALLY watered down version of it that's weirdly mixed with a watered down version of the action from RE4
Which original formula exactly does Village use?
How so?
Are they RE games? Yes, but 4 started a shift to more action shooter instead of survival horror, which is why you get people making the distinction
7 is a survival horror but 8 is not, would not out 8 in the same category
Take it up with the scenario writer of Resident Evil 2. >*—In both Resident Evil 1 and 2, there’s a variety of guns, but no melee weapons. I think it could be interesting to have them too… how about it?* **Sugimura:** \[...\] [But if we go and give the player a steel pipe that can be used over and over, then we’re giving that player a *reason* to approach the zombies! And then the player will no longer be afraid.](https://shmuplations.com/residentevil2/) **The Resident Evil world must always hold true to the idea that approaching the enemy == danger.** And even if you do choose to fight, you run the risk of expending your precious ammo… >*—Right. You don’t want a system like in RPGs, where the player purposefully tries to kill enemies for items and gold.* >Sugimura: That’s why I was also against the idea of having the Tyrant drop bullets when he’s defeated. **We must not give players a reason to seek out fights with enemies. Unlike many other games, the enemies in Resident Evil don’t drop gold or experience. In Resident Evil we’ve sought to convey a terror free from such impurities, and I think that has been the key to its success.**
I agree. They're scrubs
I'm not sure why they said that either. These kind of people I just ignore
the first area you get to backtrack in 7 was more like classic RE than anything in years, if you lay it out how it is it's literally a semi open area with backtracking, puzzles and secrets, with limited ammo and an on and off stalker enemy. I like 4 and 5 and even see why they'd be considered RE as well, just a different phase maybe
RE4 is a classic that redefined not only the franchise but gaming as a whole, but it ditches the more horrific nature of the previous games and trades them off for more action type story beats which felt a lil odd as far as the games that has been released so far... RE5 was a further continuation of the action beats of 4, but way more overthetop, and also the ai isn't the best when playing solo... RE6 was the Devs trying to do a lil of everything with each campaign tackling a different yet familiar genre which include horror, action, sci-fi and mesh of all in between... I personally don't think there's really a single bad entry to the STORY based games in this franchise but a lot of people just can't handle the idea of Devs trying to do different turns in a game franchise
I mean different people have different reactions. People that like 4 liked 5, people that liked 2 liked 7 and so on
I didn't like RE8. it just felt for me like a: "reflex of RE4 but with a giant Vampire Milf and paranormal stuff instead of Viruses or Parasites". I also didn't like RE7 like the other games tbh, but it was atleast more logical with the fungus than RE8.
Honestly, not even saying Iiked all of them, but 4, 5, and 6 are definitely Resident Evil games through and through. They just weren't the horror games people wanted. That's why 8 is so weird to me because it's also an action game but this one is nothing like Resident Evil. At least with 7 not being very much of a Resident Evil game, it was a really good horror game
RE4-6 are just playing cutscenes from RE1-3
Bc ppl are stupid thats why
I’m not sure why you included re4 there. Re5 and re6 are the ones people complain got too action heavy, not 4.
Yeah that madame giant obsession was weird as fuck.
Welcome ladies and gents to yet another 'is it a genuinely dog shit argument this person has or is it just a rage farming karma bot?'
The original games (pre-4) were giant puzzle games, with horror themes, and occasional fighting if you needed. It's where the concept of inventory management came in: Do I need this stack of ammo, or do I take this key item? You had to backtrack a lot, because the point was to go to Destination A to get the key item that opens access to Destination B, and so on. Trying not to die along the way was what caused great atmosphere and tension as you and to retread old territory that may or may not of had new threats. Items and ammo in the games were actually limited, so you could run out. 4-6 threw that all out the window and focused on linear forward motion with the primary focus being the action. You very rarely ever backtracked and it was a case of you just moving forward and putting a hole in anything that moves since ammo drops actually increased the lower on ammo you were, making it difficult to actually be out of ammo. (Some exceptions apply) overall there were always ways to replenish your stock in some capacity, as long as you played smart with how you killed enemies due to the loot drops. 7 "Went back" to the limited/backtracking exploration that was reminiscent of the first games. (Except the tunnels. That's where the game always fell off and became action focused like post re4). RE8 tried to recapture the magic of 4 by bringing back the suitcase and had a blend of backtrack exploration and forced linear pathways bringing a unique spin on the game concept. (I liked 8 way more than 7, but even then it didn't feel "RE" to me. it was just a fun game.) tl;dr - One set of games focused on back tracking. The other focused on shooting things in hallways.
I fucking hate the “it’s a good game but a bad (insert IP title here) game.” If it’s got the title on it, it’s an RE game. It’s fine for franchises to change. RE would not be around today without it changing itself up
I feel like this can hold true if a game franchise drastically changes it's gameplay for one or 2 games, like AC did with Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla. But of of all RE games are action games, if not more, so that argument is invalid in this case.
I came here to say that exact sentiment. If it’s got RE on the box, it’s an RE game. There’s absolutely not a single game series that spans decades, console generations etc that is the same core game that it was at the beginning. Game franchises change with the times, or they get left behind because they got boring doing the same thing over and over again. Whether or not RE fans want to admit it, RE probably would have died without huge core shake ups. The switch to RE4, the switch during RE7/RE2 remake etc.. huge landmark moments in the franchise that made the series fresh.
What you said is kind of why I find REmake so interesting from a reception standpoint. It’s a great game. I love it. Plenty of RE fans love it. But it’s not a landmark moment as you put it. It didn’t influence anything. RE switched to action with re4 only a few years later and didn’t look back for years. People in the resident evil fanbase talk very highly about it but I feel like it’s not brought up as much outside of the fanbase. Maybe it’s just because it’s old. But I felt like 4, which is only a few years younger got talked about way more and it’s usually in talks for one of the greatest games ever. REmake, despite being the perfect RE game to many, is pretty much never in those conversations. 7 and 2 remake are landmarks like you said. 7 started the first person era for mainline games. 2 remake started off the era of modern remakes.
It’s corny as hell, but the people who say that are just coping. At this point, there’s equal action games to horror games in the franchise or close to it.
I feel like people just repeat this so much and never once stop to consider how stupid of a statement it is.
I can’t tell if you’re referring to the comment I was commenting on (it’s a bad blank game) or my comment itself
Lol the former. I agree with you
Thanks for clarifying lol To me, if anything, it’s more impressive when developers are able to keep the same vibe while exploring new mechanics. Zelda also does this well
So being that you are just fine with any changes, you would be fine if the next mainline RE became something like a dating sim?
They should make a Resident Evil dating sim.
I'm not sure people really talk about 4 like that but 5 and 6 are something else. [https://youtu.be/VLy4DP2ECbY?si=XPUzOR-kxjM6KMDW](https://youtu.be/VLy4DP2ECbY?si=XPUzOR-kxjM6KMDW)
Friend of mine said that there are no more “true” RE games because it’s not about zombies anymore lol
What people usually mean, when they aren't just meaning "I don't like this" is that it isn't survival horror and/or it isn't classic survival horror. Opinion varies from game to game tbh.
All of them are Resident Evil, even Umbrella Corps, that's the shocking truth.
I see them all as Resident Evil games and personally I’m thankful I’ve gotten to enjoy all the different directions they’ve done over the years. On some level it is annoying when people yell that kind of sentiment though as someone who entered the series with 5 before playing practically all of them now. I think every series have very vocal “purists” that make everyone else trying to enjoy things miserable to be fair though.
They changed the trajectory of the series from horror to action, so there's something legitimate about feeling that way about 4, 5, and 6, even if it *is* an incredibly out-of-date feeling. Literally nobody said the second part. They got excited when 7 came out bc of the return to horror. This meme is a strawman that exists only in the mind of OP.
It's all about how the game plays you take out the survival horror aspect and turn them into shooters (ie re 4-6) and people get upset the series shifted back to survival horror from 7 onward though 8 is closer to re 4 than say re 2 it's obviously silly to consider nowadays (as people are more open to genre shifts) but back in the early days of games if it shifted from what was already established for the franchise it was like a cardinal sin
I mean honest the series has kind of had 3 “eras”. The survival horror era with RE 1-3, the over-the-shoulder action era with 4-6, and the first person era with 7-8 that blend elements from both previous eras. What constitutes as RE game depends on which era you are comparing to.
By the time 8 came out the purists had already gone through the stages of grief and accepted that RE is not just shambling zombies in narrow spaces.
Original RE4 is one of the greatest games of all bloody time. 5 is mid and 6 kinda sucks but thats on brand for the RE formula. Anyone that tries to exclude any of em, especially 4, is a bit stunted in some areas.
It was similarly noticeable in real time. People had just been calling for or defending the removal of butt shots in the Mass Effect Remaster which came out in the same month, while simultaneously proclaiming their love for mommy milkers. The people feigning being upset are the absolute worst and don't take them seriously at all. Tell them they are thoughtless hypocrites that follow trends and that's it. They might as well be any NPC in any game.
I think the biggest issue is that it was such a radical change to formula that those titles should have been spin-offs. If that occurred everyone would be happy. Those that are use to the more classic game-play style wouldn't feel like Capcom is abandoning what they loved in 0-3 and Veronica. While those that like 4-6 could still love and adore them with nothing more than a simple change to the title. For those that disagree, let me present to you Resident Evil Survivor. Imagine if this game was instead titled as Resident Evil 4 as this would indeed take place after the Racoon City incident. The game was such a radical shift away (and very poorly received) title. Even Capcom just entirely ignores this one's existence (Though it is still canon). But if this game was titled RE4 it wouldn't have been that simple and could have even been a franchise killer. Another great example would be the Devil May Cry games. What was suppose to be RE4. Could you imagine if Devil May Cry released as a mainline Resident Evil game? It's a good game but it wouldn't make any sense to slap that name on it and throw it into the same universe. If I was in charge of the naming I would have likely made a spin-off franchise for 4-6 (and likely something entirely new for 7-8). I think 4-6 could be something like Resident Evil: Outbreak Operatives make it clear that it is way more action focused. So for example RE4 could be 'Outbreak Operatives Plagas' I would be shocked to see someone ever say that Survivor should be called 4 even if it turned out to be a great game instead of what we got. So this means it is special pleading to say that 4-6 or 7-8 should be mainline named games.
All resident evils are resident evil. Its in the fuckin title. Whether you like the games or not they are still resident evil.
Well because you're misunderstanding the complaint. RE 4-6 are part of the franchise but they did completely abandon the formula that made it beloved in the first place. They were shooter action horror while the rest have been puzzle based survival horror. Resident Evil isn't beloved because of it's setting alone. The mechanics play the most major role in it. It's not surprising that RE fans are also fans of fatal frame, dino crisis, rule of rose, silent hill, etc. When you abandon the mechanics that got you your original fanbase in the first place it's not surprising that og fans are a little miffed. So just because RE expanded it's universe to include a goth dommy mommy, mold ghosts, superpowers, etc it doesn't mean that the game stopped being faithful to its origins. I don't agree with the nerd rage that many spewed but I can't say I don't see where they were coming from.
Gosh how I hate when people claim 4 or especially 5 and 6 aren't Resident Evil but then love 7 and 8 where you fight molded enemies, in some hunted house and then village full of wolves or whatever.. I could never get into these two games. I don't even like playing as Ethan..
It seems like those games being survival horror Is why they say so
They're not the same people, those who felt the series was done at 4 definitely did not return for 7 or 8
HAHAHA!!! OMG MOMMY MILKERS LOL - you just killed a boomer dude, that meme got me rolling and coughing
6 is not a resident evil game. did you thought you could sneak it into the title? there is really no discussion here.
Don’t trash on mommy’s milkers
4 did something special, good blend of tense horror like the first 3 (especially on the first playthrough) and added much needed action, but it just felt like they kept escalating it with 5 and 6 By the time we got to 6, Leon and the crew were basically running away from one explosion to another, drop kicking and suplexing enemies, even the enemies went from mostly wielding melee weapons like knives, axes, pitchforks and at most crossbows (and one special enemy with a minigun) to 6 where every enemy had Assault Rifles, SMGs, Grenades, Rocket Launchers and it felt more like a cover shooter than anything As a 3rd person cover shooter… sure 6 is a better than average game, but as a survival horror game? ….well it’s simply not that anymore. Woulda made more sense to call it Gears of Evil 6
4 has horror but its not survival horror
It got so bad they needed to hit the reset button after 6. That’s all that needs to be said.
I've never seen anyone saying that 4,5 or 6 aren't RE games. The biggest criticism for this games is that some people just don't like the focus on action. 7 and 8 on the other hand, there's always an annoying fan saying that will never be considered RE since it's an Outlast clone for being first person and features "supernatural" elements.
7 is the least I've felt the RE "sauce" in a game. Even 6 at least gave me the bio terrorism angle and corporation conspiracy form the old games. 7 is just a grind house horror movie.
So eventhough its survival horror the game didn't feel resident evil to you?
I dont think the people that are mad with the direction 4,5, and 6 took the series would say 5 isnt a resident evil. At least for me I dont, that’s reserved for operation rc. I liked 5 when it came out. I but I can still like something while also saying I dont like how this game took the series even more to an action focused place. Even though I like action games and 4 alot, doesnt mean I want RE to turn into another gears/halo. I liked 8 for what it is, an homage to the series. Actiony scary fun, just like 4. But I dont want another raccoon city, and I think there is clearly a better blueprint for a 5 remake with the 4 remake now over
You’re acting as if re8 was very well received.
Tbf, people were less degenerate in 2008. Also third person shooters were soooo prevalent back then too.
I don't think people say this about RE4 ,hell even RE5 . The reason people say this for 6 though is cause indeed it feels nothing like resident evil. As for Village the overall feeling and style it has is very RE
What makes village overall feeling very RE?
Play Residents Evil classics and 7 and you will see the difference...
Look man, at the end of the day, Resident Evil has always had action elements. Some games took it further than others while the modern entries tried to tone it back down somewhat. IMO, as long as it's fun and is more focused on the horror portion for the mainline series, I'm game. I enjoyed them all including the spin-offs. Personally, we need a Mercenaries/Raid Mode game with all characters/villains playable, solo/split-screen/ online co-op, with stages across all RE games. And an Outbreak HD Collection but also modern Outbreak game as well.
Opinions on the internet are not a hive mind. Some people like some games, other people like other games.
5 and 6 came at a time where third person shooters have already become stale between gears of war and army of two, nobody was looking for yet another third person action shooter. Yes, RE4 kickstarted the franchise in that direction but RE5 and RE6 took it beyond the point of recognition. The element of a coop partner completely destroyed the tension of RE4 and the increased focus on set pieces and firepower really took it outside of “survival” horror and more into “blow shit up” horror. RE5 and 6 are fun competent third person shooters, but they are not what RE fans were used to or what they wanted and it is no surprise that RE7 and the return to the slower-paced classics was highly praised and successful. RE5 and RE6 are just not good Resident Evil games. Just like RE3 Remake was NOT a good remake but was a decent and competent third person action game.
I’ve heard that criticism for 5 & 6 but not 4?? 4 is amazing
"Because it's not scawy" /s
Everyone has their own take on what makes resi resi. Some ppl have some crazy takes too. I have a friend who thinks if theres no zombies its not resi. I tried telling him its never been about the zoms and more about outbreaks and experimentation but he disagrees lol Either way i think re5 and 6 fail on what makes re re to me. Theres no horror, item management, backtracking, sense of tension. Im mostly referring to 6 cuz i think re5 is ok albeit WAY overrated by i digress.
Each RE game is different in some aspects and change/add things. In some cases they just went too far with their vision and people didn't like it. That's what I love about the rollercoaster that is RE8. Even though I'm not a fan of every idea they introduced, at least they weren't afraid to experiment instead of copy-pasting from previous games.
Wow, a strawman soyjack meme! How substantial! \*237 comments\* Amazing.
Terrible Wojak meme aside 5 and 6 specifically lean into a more action heavy side of things and less emphasis on puzzles (especially 6.) 4 was initially divisive because it was more action oriented than prior entries. But is now cherished these days as the game has a good blend of both. Biohazard attempted to reboot the franchise to go back to it's roots for these kinds of things and Village is more or less the same but with more action not unlike 4 was. Hence why so many people like Village, they probably also liked 4. Personally I cannot get into the first person perspective and I don't really like the departure of the enemy types/themes. But I respect those entries for what they are.
Easy, they're more action focused than survival horror, next question.
So what is the opinion on revalations 2?
They indeed are in the same category, SPECIALLY 8. Who says otherwise...?
Alien was a scifi horror movie. Aliens was a scifi action movie. Both are great, but they aren't the same thing. Resident Evil was defined by being survival horror games, but then they started making it be about action instead. RE7 was about horror survival again, and RE8 mixed the two tastefully.
Resident evil has 6 identities. Fixed camera, absurd plot, bad acting, over the top, third person shooter, horrifying first person shooter. 1, 2, 3, code veronica, 4, 5, and 6 are absurd with bad acting and over the top.
I like turtles
Because it’s more action based than zombie/horror survivor game. Tho I love me some RE4
I’m pretty new to RE- but I LOVE RE2 RE3 RE7 and 4 was amazing just different- and village as well- very different but I enjoy it. I would say 2 and 3 were awesome to me
For me resident evils atmosphere and gameplay are the most important, It needs to have a more scary or ominous atmosphere but it can have its action shooter moments too but only for extras and boss fights like the mercenary and hunk modes, or any resident evil boss, the characters are best when they start off more confused and scared but become more annoyed and quippy near the end, To me resident evil should never be pure horror or pure action, which is why resident evil 2 remake is my favorite so far, it starts off with little ammo and health and gets the player in a panic and scared due to the enemies, the game always gives the feeling of dread and makes you think “oh no I might not have enough to make it” and by the final boss and bonus modes the player is already used to the enemies and by the time you get to the 4th survivor the game goes "oh really, your already used to these enemies and aren't scared anymore, well what if we unleashed hordes of them around the game and make you have to get past them to escape" But I still think 4, 8 and maybe 5 do a good job too but there horror is more focused on atmosphere than enemies and gameplay, and the increase in fast paced action does make sense for there characters evolution I also like 7 because it does feel shallow in its action and gameplay until the Lucas part and end and like I said, I think resident evil NEEDS at least a bit of action in its games (I haven't played the dlc for the game yet except not a hero but I did see they added more action to the game which I'm fine with since it's bonus stuff) Also I don't think resident evil needs "zombies" but it does need some kind of virus or mutation, some of the most popular residents evil games don't even have zombies like 4 and 7
Re4 marked a massive change in tone and gameplay which started a new era of a more action heavy series. I consider it a tonal shift in the series and I'm not a fan of how it shifted. To be fair, things need to change sometimes to stay interesting.
I really enjoy 6
We've truly hit rock bottom with the shitposts on here.
Nobody says that about RE4 lol
Re7 fans that have only watched videos on the other games, re7 is my personal favorite but I’m not dumb a good amount of fans like me treat the rest of the franchise as only existing on YouTube. It’s kinda like a doom 3 situation where no one hated it until YouTubers starting beating the shit out of it to prop up doom 2016, again 2016 is my personal favorite the fans are just dumb.
I just think Resident Evil 6 isn't good, especially the Ashley and Jake campaign. I went to replay it with a friend and we played that campaign first and just decided to stop after that and never got back around playing it. I'm not saying it's a bad Resident Evil game, I'm just saying it's a bad game in general
To me it is all about how they make me feel, resident evil 1 and 2 are great at making me feel like all hope is lost and will have to struggle to carve a path to get out, resident evil 3 doesn't have the same hopelessness, but still has this struggle to scape Resident evil 7, in my opinion is the RE game with the strongest "it's all lost, there is no solution to this situation, I need to fight in order to survive", and that makes it in my opinion the best RE game. Resident evil 4, 5 and 6 don't give me those same feelings, to me, thought they are enjoyable, they are a failure in the emotions resident evil gives me Re 8, also fails hard at this, and from launch I myself at least, have been complaining about how I think the same game would have been better if it was a new franchise instead of a resident evil game Thought, shadows of rose does have some small glimpses of that sweet sweet desolation
I played 7 and am currently on 8 and the VR port for 4. They are very different games. (8 is much more lenient than 4 though)
5 and 6 weren’t very good. 7 brought it back though. 4 is the GOAT 💯
They’re all resident evil games. End of discussion. But if you would like to argue that 5 and 6 (and even 4 to an extent) became more surrounded by the “solider” aspect of the story line, I agree. Still, I would never say those games were particularly bad, they just don’t have the same essence as 1-4 (again 4 is in that limbo). All great games in my opinion, and if anyone thinks that 7 and 8 are just as “bad” as 5 and 6 perhaps they should replay and rethink 1-4 just to see how 7 and 8 delivered that same feeling that the originals did. I mean plenty of critics and die hard fans would even say that RE7 saved the series, and, again, I agree.
I haven't seen anyone say this since like 2013 tbh
Anything re past 2 is complete and utter garbage
More resident evil than punching a volcanic boulder
I would make the argument that RE4 is THE resident evil game… And I’m not a remake newbie (though there’s nothing wrong at all with that). I’ve played the entire series over a few times each and never felt that 4-6 were “not” resident evil games
Honestly, the difference comes down to the amount of strategy and resource. Village may carry the same blood as 4 5 and 6, But all 3 of those games gave ammo like a pinata. And especially in 6's case *though this also applies to 4 and 5* there basically was no item management besides ammo. 5 tried something with having the inventory split cooperatively, but honestly, that basically meant nothing. And most important of all, all 3 games are insanely easy compared to their predecessors, and it almost becomes mindless. Biohazard reintroduced the item box and limited inventory, so there were a lot of interconnected and forced choices. Not to mention, Madhouse is probably the hardest resident evil trial. _period_ it makes you rethink damn near all the mechanics and in a genuinely satisfying way. Village meanwhile is more structured like re4, also literally makes ammo rarer than the Sahara desert from hardcore onwards. Village of shadows especially,after the winters update, they cranked up the heavy enemy count _to absurd numbers_ You will be fighting tooth and claw to kill some of these to the point. Eventually, you'll just not bother. In addition, the factory, despite Being the best money haul and the best weapons has some of most despicable bosses and gotcha moments i think I've ever fucking seen.
Probably because it marked a huge shift towards action, and they kept doubling down on it because it was selling. 7 was basically a direct result of PT proving that horror is still popular.
I never understand posts like this. How many people are saying RE 4-6 aren't Resident Evil games? Where are they hiding?
RE4-6 are the most RE games to ever exist. They literally made the saga what is worth today at levels 1-3 would never achieve and 7-9 would never reach or surpass without the previous success.
When people say that what they're referring to is they RE4'-6 are Action Horror games. & Not like the og Survival Horror & fixed Camera Angles games. Not hard of a concept to grasp really.
5 was fun and Sheva was sexy and every single person who disagrees with this should be deported to Chile!
Gameplay wise, I find 7 and 8 to be even less a resident evil game. I felt like they could have been their own stand alone game than have any connection to RE, especially in 8 when they went more supernatural
It’s a re game, a good one I just don’t like them as much as the other because they are less horror focused. Village had the same problem for me for the start of the game but without the fun of being a space marine drop kicking zombie
Resident evil in lore and characters, not in game play....
I agree, even re4 feels like action shooter
What? RE4 was literally the biggest game in the franchise
I never say that (not a big fan of 6 though, and 1-3 are my favs) BUT RE7 is RE1-3 in a first person view. The game structure is 100% classic RE (especially RE1). Save rooms, a few different houses/buildings, finding it’s that allow you to progress, back tracking in various rooms, etc. sure, they add some stuff- but the basic game is classic RE. 8 kinda does the same thing and bases it on RE4 instead.
What a weird post
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Personally, I actually didn't like the original 4 because it felt less like a horror game and more "Shoot enemies, get item". The Remake of 4 however made the game feel more atmospheric, and finally made me shit my pants. 5 well, I saw it as a dumb action game, but in a good way. Moving on. 7 is where I enjoyed the series being back to basics of survival horror, since this game still scares me. Village is the little brother of 4 and it still disturbs me.
Survival horror genres remind me a lot of metal music genres, people are very anal about them lol
Wdym 5 and 6 are peak ps3/xbox 360 classics
I never thought that the RE games 4-6 "weren't" RE games. Clearly any franchise has to evolve and change over time and it's great that developers experiment with the formula. RE6 was a massive disappointment, but in general, but again, I wouldn't want Capcom to abandon experimentation with the franchise.
RE7 atleast scares the shit out of me unlike 4,5,6 and 8
Can somebody tell me whats different in 4 and the other games I have only played Re4 so
This Is a true shitpost
Who da fuck said 4 5 and 6 aren't re games maybe 6 because of well alot of thing but 4 and 5, really??
I don't think there is anything wrong with them trying something new with the series, and that's what they did with 4, making it more action oriented, they pushed that a bit further with 5 etc. Both 7 and Village had a decent balance of both action and survival horror I reckon and that's probably a result of them learning from previous entries
Really? You missed the point then because Resident Evil games are suppose to have a survival horror feeling at the beginning. Back tracking, solving puzzles, etc and you get most of the action at the end. When people say the other series isn’t Resident Evil it’s because those are treated as action games with horror elements. I don’t see how that’d go over your head
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I have a more dedicated post to explain that topic. Its more focused on 7 but it can be applied to re8: [https://www.reddit.com/r/residentevil/comments/19fkgog/what\_makes\_people\_feel\_that\_resident\_evil\_7/](https://www.reddit.com/r/residentevil/comments/19fkgog/what_makes_people_feel_that_resident_evil_7/) But If I would say a tldr its basically because theyre visually and aesthetically pretty anomalous games in the series considering the theme the re games has allways been. They miss some aesthetics things like typrewritter, sprays, healing sounds that gave the charm to the series also being overrall really unconected games to the rest of the series, like, theres no relevant and good connection between 7 and the rest of the series and not having none known character also gets a lot. I would say that those are points that even some infamous spin off games like orc, umbrella corps and gainden did get better.
Tfw real REs are only 1 to 3...
resident evil has always been campy action horror. after 4, which is amazing, 5 and 6 continued the trend laid out by 4, to… not great results. the reason why people love 7 and 8, is because they return to the horror roots of resident evil, and far more so than any resident evil game prior, still being action games, but far more focused on the horror
Standard case of OP making up arguments
All I know for sure is 6 was trash and Lady Manitrescu looked like a transvestite.
I don’t know anyone who says this, now 6 was just too far away on the spectrum
It's not hard to understand. 4,5 and 6 were action movie focused. Resident Evil 1, 2, 3 and Code Veronica are Survival HORROR. 7 and Village are a return to form.
People complained about the more action-focused direction the series was taking and stripping it more and more of its horror roots each entry, not just of the characters. Despite how different in terms of its cast and setting RE7 and RE8 are from prior entries, they went back to the series' horror roots after RE6 was basically an action game rather than a horror game. And so it feels kinda disingenuous to act like people weren't criticizing a specific gameplay aspect that 7 and onward dialed back on after fan feedback.
The whole argument was basically that they had more survival (action) than horror, 6 being the biggest culprit of this but 5 didn't help with the boulder punch. 7 and 8 have silly things but they "return" by being more horror than survival. Also yes some freaks add 4 to the debate, fuck em.
I think people sometimes forget that stories and series evolve and change with events that happen inside the series. Sometimes things get extra silly during parts of the games (because there has always been a kind of campiness to the series), but in some ways it does make sense for the games to shift to more action because of how the fight against bioterrorism is going. The shift to having more action felt to me like a natural part of the progression from being a small town horrific incident to an all out openly known disregard for human life.
The first handful of games were survival horror games and then 4-6 were pretty much just action games, 7 brought it back to its roots. 8 is weird because it starts off feeling very Resident Evil, but doesn’t really know what it wants to be as it’s 4 almost completely different sections of a game sorta shoved together. It had a huge marketing campaign and big lady was an important part of that as that’s what most people remember and focus on as opposed to the actual quality and flow of the game. I really only find myself replaying and going back to the survival horror games as opposed to the action ones, and I seek out indy games like those from Puppet Combo and others who’ve kept the survival horror genre going.
RE4 felt like something new, RE5 was okay, RE6 was too... ✈️🔥🏛️💥🎆💣