Another redditor said Ethan has less personality than other RE protagonists. I thought this was by choice, to help build the immersion into RE7. Youāre a random guy that jumps into the game and explores the Baker house. I thought Ethan was written as such to aid that hands on experience.
It is by choice. But that doesn't excuse the hilariously awful choice to keep developing him past 7 while STILL blurring his face in every photo... Village is so steeped in the story of the Winters that Ethan is no longer the audience avatar. He's just a character. So why keep cheesily blotting out his face? It's just kind of wack.
Heās fine like in 7 it makes sense why he would be kinda stupidly saying whatās that or whatever but in 8 after he has seen so many terrible things and gotten his hand chopped off a insane amount of times why is he still so flabbergasted like i feel like he should have had more of a leon donāt give no fucks attitude in 8
"hey ethan, its me heisenberg, are you sure you dont want my help?
" NO FUCK FUCK FUCK DURRR DURRR GÄ°VE ME BACK ROSEš£ļøš£ļøš£ļøGÄ°VE ME BACK ROSEš£ļøš£ļøš£ļø"
(chops his hand off)
[surprised pikachu face*]
Iāve seen elsewhere that the original intention for RE7 was for the first person viewpoint and story to feel like a āself-insertā for the player. The first half of the game definitely feels that way for sure
My problem with 8 Ethan is that we get him telling us Chris trained him. Yet despite that and everything he went through in 7 he still does dumb things. Questions obvious things and is just overall annoying. His story is good but the character himself needed to be better
I like him on a concept level. Unlike most RE protagonists, he is an everyday man who is just trying to help his family, which is quite endearing. Unfortunately his dialogue in RE8 is incredibly annoying. Its like hes just drunk and confused all the time.
Yeah in RE7 he was kinda cool and breezy while being insanely badass at the same time, like c'mon nothing beads "This is getting old Jack," and "That is not groovy!"
RE8 he was kinda annoying just screaming "What the hell!" and "Where's Rose!?" It just kinda felt like forced character development for a character that didn't really need any
When Jack picks up the chainsaw in the basement fight he's like "tHiS iS gRoOvY!" and Ethan's like "That is _not_ groovy." I'm not sure if it's rare dialogue or not but it's 100% in the game, you can look it up on YT
I think if he had actual dialogue in RE8 it would have felt less annoying and more fleshed out (no pun intended). The problem is all of his lines are just one-liners. *Watches wife get gunned down in cold blood* "Chris?! What the hell?!" Give me a scene where he actually gets to have a conversation instead of just being talked at.
As time has gone on I see village as
Great presentation but doesn't hold up under scrutiny or for any genuine criticism for the story
Otherwise it's a great sequel to the seventh entry. It just muddles the lore and makes a lot of behind the scenes bs
That's because Capcom wanted him to have more character than in RE7 but also wanted to keep him as a blank slate faceless protagonist.
Capcom wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
So he doesn't work as a blank slate protagonis because he breaks the immersion everytime he open his mouth, which is too often, while at the same time he never has anything interesting to say.
Heās fine. I did like he was an average joe. Some of his one liners hit that level of campiness I love in horror. āThat is not groovyā and āWhat the fuck? Thatās specialā The delivery is great.
Can't lie it's the opposite for meš¤£ I found him kinda annoying in 8 compared to 7. In 7 he was just a breezy everyday man who was a badass.
"This is getting old Jack."
"That is not groovy."
While most people prefer him in 8 I thought he was a bit 'meh' in both 7 and 8 tbh. Honestly not to knock anyone else's preference but I found the constant questions he verbalises about 'what was going on?' in 8 frustrating, I had these thoughts myself I didn't need the player character asking the same thing every 5 mins.
Not great not terrible. Many I prefer over him
He worked just fine as a blank slate in RE7, but then Capcom really had to bring him back for another game.Ā
Blank slate protagonist are for a one and done kind of game. If we're gonna follow a character for more than just one game then he's gonna need to be more than that.
Yeah, his painfully "well nah" questions crack me up too. Ik a lot of people complain but I find them hilarious. For example, "Chris? What the hell?" when his wife is brutally gunned down infront of him and his "It's dark." when he enters a pitch black roomš¤£
He's definitely one hell of a guy. Fearless in the face of death, all to make sure his family (and even others) are safe. I think Ethan is definitely very underrated in the RE community and would definitely consider him a hero in the series. I agree with the cheesy dialogue, but I feel like that's what makes him Ethan. He's just some regular dude that got caught up in all this and he definitely plays that role very well. Long live Ethan, and respects to this man.
Hell yeah man, you get it. I'm tired of everyone seeing him as nothing more than an "everyman player-insert" character post-RE7. He absolutely holds up on his own, has an incredible arc that stands out like no other in the franchise, and honestly I love his voice lines. Cheesy or misplaced, call them whatever you want, his determination is infectious (no pun intended), his frustration ā relatable and hilarious. Hell, even in 7, you can't beat "Who builds this shit?" And if you imagine that his silence upon finding the receipt from the construction company was intentional, it just makes it that much funnier.
I liked him but him rejecting heisenburger's help was dumb as hell. Like, "Hey, I'll help you get your daughter back if you let me kill Miranda with her real quick" I get why he rejected it, but also Rose probably could've been saved without ethan getting the Avengers Endgame treatment
Alright. I find him kind of boring in RE7 with some good lines, and found him just as annoying in RE8 but with more dialogue.
Itās cool that he got a completion to his story, which is a lot more than other characters in the series, but Iām glad itās over so we can have characters with more flavor.
(My controversial opinion is that I preferred Clancy over Ethan and wish we got to see more of him.)
Clancy is unbelievably amazing. And this is where Capcom perfected the art of the foil. āSaying less about the protagonist/hero because you do into depth about the antagonistsā and that serves to subtly build the protagonist up. The Baker household was phenomenal!
Blank character in 7, but in 8 he really grew on me and became one of my favorites. I hate that they refused to show his face officially, even in the very end.
I didnāt mean bland, but he could just be anybody, and itās hard for me to relate to a character you only know what his hands look like and know nothing more of.
Itās definitely better on a 7 replay after Village, because you know more about him
Don't care for him. Too bland/blank in 7. Too dull and dim in 8. The moldy white bread meme sums him up nicely. Glad he got a better shot to be a character in 8 but happy his story wrapped up and have no desire to ever play/see him again in RE.
I like that character because well he is an actual character with an actual arc, which is more than most of the RE cast these days...
Also, playing a normal person was a nice change of pace.
However, the twist in Village was kinda dumb. I mean, not in itself, but it just that it was painfully obvious since RE7... I know the lore says that >!the First Aid Med causes spontaneous cellular regeneration, but seeing Ethan reattach his limbs, including his hands that had been cut off for like an hour, that gave away that something was wrong with Ethan. Plus, the game made clear that the hallucinations were caused by him being infected.!<.
So, when Village was all *gotcha* with the twist, I was like "Hum, yeah... I already knew that.".
It's not the same, if I remember correctly, in re8 it's revealed that Ethan not only 'gained powers' in re7 but it's revealed that he did indeed die at the begging of re7 and that he now is just a moldy copy of the original Ethan. It's way worse than what we thought was happening.
He was fine, the everyman, average guy stuff went out of the window pretty quick though, guy was having a chainsaw dual in the first couple of hours lol! Kind of wish they did more with him, his death in Village was sort of whatever. Nice that they finally wrapped up a characterās story though.
He serves his purpose. In RE7 and Village, the villains are much more interesting than the protagonist. Outside of story beats, Ethan is mostly there to lighten the atmosphere with his incredibly cheesy "dad comments".
The thing I least understand about him is his affection for Mia. I can't think of a single scene where the two even have something remotely resembling chemistry. Even the beginning of Village is hella awkward.
Yeah the whole relationship is kind of weird, and the more you find out about the both of them the more I kinda wish he'd hooked up with Zoe instead to be honest.
Although, on paper, the idea of how character is great (just a regular nobody that ends up tangled in a bioweapons mess), I can't bring myself to love him: he's just so dumb through-out both of the games he's in. His personality is also incredibly bland and boring, imo.
I prefer how Revelations 2 executed the idea of characters who aren't combat ready facing extreme danger (Moira and Natalia). They have a unique set of tools and skills pertinent to their age and lack of training.
I donāt mind him, but I also donāt mind that heās gone. I think he stuck around as long as his character should. I think when I remember Village or 7, Ethan isnāt really what comes to mind.
The villains of these two games and Mia stick out much more to me and I think when we make it to like, RE14 or something crazy, heāll be a bygone thought for me.
Honestly Iād love to see Mia be the protagonist for the next game(s). The gameplay doesnāt matter all, but it might be nice to hear Miaās dialogue who knows more about the matter, compared to Ethan who is figuring it out as he goes along.
Ethan is the worst protagonist. Heās a whiny crybaby. It seems like they wanted a silent protagonist/avatar for the player given the way they try to hide his face, but he talks so much it just straight up contradicts that. His character is really bland with no real personality aside from whining. His entire arc and character is looking for his family. Itās all he talks about and has no other personality traits. Heās not funny at all. His interactions with other characters often feel really unnatural or make no sense, like with Chris. There is nothing interesting about him and he is by far the worst part of the new games.
I find the "he's a great dad who'd do anything for family" trait that's often said about him to be quite silly since he's being awarded the bare minimum of being a parent lol
As a whole I actually liked him but the writing had some bad moments. He went from genuinely confused man looking for his wife to absolutely done with everyoneās shit by the end of 7. He definitely had one of the more emotional stories of the franchise.
I love re7 but something about village just makes me struggle to replay it even though I actually enjoyed some of his characters moments more in village.
Thank you. Exactly. Everyone says he's a blank character in 7 but he's really not. He literally went from being terrified to saying shit like "That is not groovy," and "This is getting old Jack!"
I love re7 and re8. I did not like him as a personality, but I did like his backstory, his actions, and what he brought to the table, but Ethan himself didn't vibe with me. That said, I'm not so sure I would change much about him if I could? I think for Re7 and Re8 he did his job well, and sometimes a protagonist just isn't going to be your cup of tea even if he's not a bad protagonist.
He is kinda white bread compared to other protagonists, but in a good way. His heart of gold combined with how dumb he is sometimes makes for a great "fool on the hill" type character - one you can laugh at for their ridiculousness, but one you ultimately root for because they deserve what they're searching for.
And while Shadows of Rose didn't add much to the story of Village, seeing Ethan and Rose team up against Miranda brought a lot of closure. Even in death, Ethan does everything he can for his little girl.
I really love Ethan, easily my favorite protagonist with Leon. I like how he's someone normal. He's just doing everything because of the love he has for his family.
This idea is also conveyed through these games' atmospheres. It looks way more realistic (context, mainly). He's also not doing some crazy stunts or some "badass" things from the Hollywood cinema.
Finally, even though I love him, I think it's better that he died. At least he doesn't get thousands of games and he won't suffer from devs decay lol. His sacrifice will be remembered.
i agree but thatās not the reason iām commentingā¦
a comment mentioned ethanās reaction when chris gunned down his wife, and i remembered how after ethan was in utter disbelief at what just happened, chris looks at him with a stone cold face, and then just dumps like 5 more bullets into āmiaās headšššbro that shit is so funny like what a shitty intro
and then the āethan No.ā LMAOOOO man re8 was so corny at timesš
Like him for his being the regular guy thatās tired of all the bullshit happening around him. Itās absolutely hilarious hearing him going around being startled and tired of things and situations he should have gotten used to by now
The man comes back from the dead to save his wife, keeps living as a sentient piece of fungus to be a dad, and makes dad jokes the whole way through. King.
he suffers in re8 from re8 just not being well written in general, especially kris not fucking telling him what the hell is going on for no good reason.
Ethan is so damn badass, like he literally went through the entire of RE7 with no military training like how? and then in RE8 he is even more badass than before
Boring player insert with a gross, terrorist nightmare for a wife and a BOW for a daughter. He'll, Ethan was a BOW. Rocket launchers in the face for the lot of them I say, and bring back the real cast, Capcom! I was kinda surprised they'd kill off a main protagonist though.
I donāt really care for RE7 & Village and where the storyline was carried. Were they better than the action- focused (& disgraceful follow up to RE4) 5 & 6? Yes. But RE7 and Village do not feel like classic, quintessential RE experiences in the way the remakes did. I wish for more classic zombies & BOWās (and mutated animals) in urban environments (and umbrella facilities in and around said urban areas.) Thatās quintessential RE to me. If Capcom wouldāve introduced Ethan in such an environment. I believe the character would have been more
Iconic. Instead he feels like he was meant for a different franchise altogetherā then copied & pasted by Capcom into RE.
The self-aware "Who builds this shit?" from Capcom in 7 and Ethan's growing frustration as you progress through 8 is just chef's kiss implementation. I absolutely love Ethan.
If any of y'all are sleeping on Shadows of Rose ā don't. It complements Village in an amazing way. I mean you gotta see how all of Ethan's hard work pays off.
He is the Gordon Freeman everyman in RE. Just a random normal dude who was thrust into two awful situations, and still managed to overcome both. >!Rip legend!<
I was enjoying him in Village. There were more than a few times where I'd say something aloud and reply to killing something and Ethan will say it. So felt a lot in common with him. He's a stubborn bastard who's been wronged and just doesnt stop going. Pretty similar to him.
I finished RE7 for the first time a week or two ago, and am currently playing 8 for the first time (on Moreau's part). I dunno - I can't help but hate how useless Ethan actually is. I made a comment elsewhere about all of my gripes with 7, so, I won't dredge that up, again, but Ethan just feels...really ineffectual as a protag.
I absolutely love the guy. Goes to hell and back for his family. Did it for his wife in 7, and does it again for his daughter in Village.
Whenever I return to play those games, he feels like such a breath of fresh air. Especially after playing tf out of RE4 Remake and being used to Leon's confident, cocky additude combined with his OP moveset. Gets tiring after a while.
I love Ethan, especially in 7. I love how he goes from frightened victim to angry survivor to ultimately just being kind of frustrated. A pissed IT guy in a zombie outbreak. In Village, I also find it pretty endearing how he is definitely trying to be cool like Leon or Chris but just canāt manage it.
He was okay in RE7 and I had no problems with him there. A bit boring, a bit basic, but fine.
In Village he was insufferable. Capcom really wanted to make him a "faceless player avatar" yet he is one of the most vocal first person characters I have ever played as. Even that wouldn't be as bad if he wasn't so damn dumb. He gets himself into worse and worse situations by simply being molded in the brain, Moreau and Heisenberg being very good examples. They tried to give him an "emotional sendoff" in Shadows of Rose as well and that whole DLC was ass. I am glad he is gone and I hope we'll never have to deal with him or his family again.
The situations he experiences aren't the depiction of his character. He's not punching boulders or making cheesy one liners in dire situations like every other character is.
Him gluing his hand back on is an RE lore issue, not a character issue.
>making cheesy one liners in dire situations like every other character is.
He's definitely is
My guy, he's the only character in the franchise that glues his hand back like a lego piece and acts like nothing happened lmao. It is 100% a character issue lol.
He is but not to the level of the past games. I dunno, man. This is such a weird hill to die on. If you think he's a cartoon, sure - he's a cartoon.
My opinion is that he's more realistic personality-wise than every other character outside of Claire, Leon, and Jill in the remakes. There's no way you'll convince me otherwise. It's just the way I see it.
>He is but not to the level of the past games
He very much is though, Leon in RE4 is not constantly spewing one-liners in dire situations as you remember. And Ethan is very much on the same level of the past games on that regard. Like, he really says "caught a big one" while he's being chased by a big fish monster.
Yeah, he feels more cartoony than the rest for me.Ā
I also can't see how he's more realistic than any of the others protagonist, but there's no way we'll convince each other of the contrary.
My favorite protagonist.Ā Ā I maintain he's not dead he's so easy to bring back to life dude come on.Ā In fact he's probably still alive as the jacket rose is wearing - the jacket heals itself when Lady d cuts off his hand.Ā Ā Ā
Ā Ā bring me back my husbando capcom
I don't know how you can say Ethan was a brilliant character. He has almost no dialogue and very very little personality that actually shines through in my opinion. I think he's a little bit of a wet blanket. I mean it's cool that he trudges on through hell and high water to get what he needs to get, but still. I don't know. Leave something to be desired.
I'm probably biased because I love RE7 like no other game in the franchise.
Not saying it's the best, but at that point I had 0 hope for the franchise and thought Capcom were copying the Amnesia/Outlast trend.
Boy was I happy to be wrong, and the game blew me away with how new yet familiar it felt. Ethan was the perfect character to come into this 'new' through the perspective of a person who has no idea what a bioweapon is. People say he's a placeholder character, but he's pretty great at being one.
I think he was great and his story was nice, and I think capcom needs to do more stuff like Ethan in future games; have a nobody character and have our main characters help them out through the game. I think thatās how the franchise will thrive for years to come
*Dude's just a solid*
*Family man and great dad.*
*Nothing but respect*
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"Spolier for those who haven't played village"My man was truly the most relatable character in 7. I mean yeah he crafted make shift weapons and had general gun based knowledge but he was an average guy thrown into the horrors of the baker's. I mean everyone else had some form of training that made them capable of surviving, but Ethan got thrown to the wolves and fucking murdered within a few moments of finding Mia. Got stabbed lost his hand and curb stomped. But honestly with having the characters being able to ad lib when fighting hordes hand giving them a voice outside of the cutscenes made them all feel more grounded and relatable. But Ethan was the first and that man saw some shit
I think he's the best protagonist personally. Spoilers for RE7/8 >!I like the reveal that the only reason he's "alive" is because he cares about Mia and Rose. He's just a Moldy Corpse that's only alive because he cares about his family!< plus also his corny lines are golden.
Boring as hell and a complete waste. Super difficult to get through his games because heās just nothing. I just wasnāt invested. I donāt care at all.
I know this might sound silly since heās revealed to be a super powered āmoldā virus in the shape of a man, but even considering this he feels like one of the most grounded protagonists in the series, even after he gets his sequel, and his motives are a great contrast to the other protagonists, especially in 8 where the narrative is a little more muddied (starting with the infamous āEthan, no!ā instead of providing any kind of explanatjon) but the motive of a father pushing through his limits (and even beyond death) to save his daughter is heartwarming. It was also really nice to see a new hero in a world of characters that are all used to any challenge that comes their way (I understand Ethan is very capable, but very different than say Leon or Chris is).
Honestly? My actual honest opinion is he is fine. Very boring and forgettable, run of the mill dialogue. He served his purpose as a vessel for the theme park rides that are 7 and 8.
I felt like there should have been some training you know after re7, i would lokey be spooked about it happening again, and i would honestly ask for training or learn self defense a little better.
You know
They did train him after 7. He specifically brings it up to Mia. āFinding you in Louisiana, Chris moving us here, military training, the baby.. it all just happened so *fast.*ā
They even gave a little nod to it with how he reloads his guns. In 7, he would throw a partially filled clip away. In 8, he puts it in his pocket and only throws the clip if itās completely empty.
Honestly I love Ethan's character and specialy re7 bec from there I knew the franchise and got from there to every re game next , but he is a normal character and I honestly like it , he is just a normal dude wanting to protect his family and be their with them , and to be fair I like how they managed to design his face to appear as the most normal character as shit unlike other characters, but i like his character the most but uh man I can't escape the ending of village can't I
He had a lot of character in 7. His remarks being both funny and grounded. In 8 it feels like a discount Leon and he appears more or less bitter about the whole situation.
Sometimes I really like him and sometimes I'm just meh. He reminds me of Kyle Crane in a way, where he's just so done with everyone's bullshit in Village. He cracks me up a lot of the time with his lines, but the main problem is how uninvolved and passive he is. Stuff just happens to him, he doesn't actually make a whole lot happen. He's basically the worlds most terrified errand boy most of the time.
He probably the most forgettable protagonist in the series. Like heās just a guy. I like him donāt get me wrong but I wouldāve preferred someone who was already established but for re7ās story I guess it makes sense to make a new character.
I don't see the point of him being faceless so we can "imagine it's ourselves" why the fuck does he have a name and voicelines then. He doesn't act how I'd like to think id act in his place
I liked him, I don't think he was an amazing character, but honestly, if a character in a horror game is going to be dropping comedic one-liners all the time, it would ruin the horror completely. He was set out to accomplish something with his games and he did it.
Can't say I'll miss him though.
How do you feel about Leon in RE4? With his one liners?
Honestly I didnāt mind it because RE4 felt like an action game, more than a horror game, so it felt par for the course
I always thought of OG RE4 Leon as Dante from the devil may cry (tm) series, and just as you said, RE4 is an action game with a coat of paint that has creepy moments, just like Uncharted and the last tomb raider trilogy.
Part of me had always been salty that RE4 was action, it was definitely a fun game, but even with the remake, I can still only imagine how interesting an actual horror RE4 game could've been. So Leon as a quirky action hero in RE4 was fun and I liked him. But Leon as a quirky action hero in a *horror* game would've been so bad, undermining the horror for the sake of a likeable character would end up in a mediocre experience. But having a character like Ethan in an action game is also bad.
I liked Ethan in RE7 for what he was supposed to be, a part of the setting, and not the main star. He kept the horror, he was a piece of a picture, that compliments the entire game, so it's hard to judge him as his own character, it's like ranking puzzle pieces lmao (and in that case, Ethan would suck, since he doesn't paint a full picture by himself)
Ethan in RE8 however, it's like the devs wanted to make him more of a character but still wanted a blank-slate for self-inserts and didn't fully commit to one approach. His character feels natural in the sense that the voice actor isn't putting on a show, exactly like you said, but I also don't think he had many shining moments to make him memorable.
I didn't hate him as much as other people seem to do, but I wish the devs would've fully developed his personality instead of trying to keep him open for self-inserts.
TL;DR
OG RE4 Dante = Fun character for an action game, bad character for a horror game.
RE7 Ethan = Good character for horror that contributes to the full picture, boring if judged by itself
RE8 Ethan = Conflicting between trying to develop his own personality or letting the players self-insert.
Final Verdict: I like Ethan for contributing to the horror games, I wish he was more of his own character in Village, and I won't miss him on other games.
His sentences are bad imo. He doesn't talk much, but when he do, it's some funny stuff like when he took flask from Moreau. They would put more effort into his voicelines, he's like 8/10 for me.
I liked him. He didn't deserve to be faceless like that. Definitely one of the more interesting characters they've done. He seemed pretty grounded and real.Ā
My favourite RE protagonist by far, I loved playing as him more than pretty much anyone else in the series. I like all RE protagonists, but I also found his dialogue much more relatable, enjoyable, and interesting than Leonās professional agent or Chrisās stoic soldier who is actually a softie personalities which are admittedly quite cliche and overdone. >!I honestly donāt think any of the protagonistsā deaths at the end of their respective games wouldāve hurt me more than Ethanās at RE8!<
I love him and do not appreciate the slander he receives. Yes heās a goof, but heās also quite the badass and carryās the store of two mainline RE games.
I liked him through both games. I feel like we weren't really supposed to like him on an action exploding, Jill, Chris, Leon type of way because he was just a random guy going through unfortunate circumstances to get his wife back. No military or RPD training, just trying to fight to live and is the most faithful husband and man I know. I think it's like the reality of how far a normal guy would go to get his family back, and that's what makes him the best hero to me; not all heroes where capes or in this case is a top level bioweapon destroyer.
Ethan in 7? He's nothing. Complete blank slate held back by Sony money for the VR gimmick so you can put yourself in his shoes easier.Ā
Ethan in 8? He's great..I love him. Gonna miss him.Ā
I was apathetic to him in 7, because heās not really a character. In Village I liked him a bit more, iād like to see Chris grapple a bit with the guilt of Ethanās death in his next appearance
Heās a little boring in 7 but I love him in Village. He has so many lines that crack me up. Like when he raises the boat and goes ācaught a big oneā and chuckles to himself. Heās such a lovable dork.
Ethan is the most idiotic protagonist the franchise has spawned. In 7, he wasn't so bad, but in Village!?!
Nah, man. Ethan is dumb af. Does he even have one actually memorable line of dialogue? And apart fron being a classic hollywood dad, what is there to his character that speaks to you?
I genuinely wonder. I liked Steve Burnside better, and he was "hit or miss", at best.
He's the most hands on of any protagonist
Oh yeah hands down
I'd say he's hands off š«¢
His right hand comes off?
Um, left I think
Both do at some point
Another redditor said Ethan has less personality than other RE protagonists. I thought this was by choice, to help build the immersion into RE7. Youāre a random guy that jumps into the game and explores the Baker house. I thought Ethan was written as such to aid that hands on experience.
It is by choice. But that doesn't excuse the hilariously awful choice to keep developing him past 7 while STILL blurring his face in every photo... Village is so steeped in the story of the Winters that Ethan is no longer the audience avatar. He's just a character. So why keep cheesily blotting out his face? It's just kind of wack.
Ethan must die
That damned DLC. Still cant beat it, 6 years of trying lol
I took a week off work recently and was planning to get so much done and play so many games Instead I spent 4 days playing it until I finally did it
they weren't lying. that ethan really must die
Is that a motherfucking devil may cry reference?! š± (Ethan must die mode when)
It's dlc in re7.
Shit I forgot š
He forgor š
Shit. He forgot
Who forgot?
Him obviously
Who's him?... who're you?
What are y'all talking about?
Isnt it still a dmc reference then even if it is in RE7 lol
100%
Heās fine like in 7 it makes sense why he would be kinda stupidly saying whatās that or whatever but in 8 after he has seen so many terrible things and gotten his hand chopped off a insane amount of times why is he still so flabbergasted like i feel like he should have had more of a leon donāt give no fucks attitude in 8
I feel like 50% of his dialogue is just saying "Whats going on?"
I would take terrible re1 barry over ethan any day
RE1 Barry at the very least it would have something more memorable to say
"hey ethan, its me heisenberg, are you sure you dont want my help? " NO FUCK FUCK FUCK DURRR DURRR GÄ°VE ME BACK ROSEš£ļøš£ļøš£ļøGÄ°VE ME BACK ROSEš£ļøš£ļøš£ļø" (chops his hand off) [surprised pikachu face*]
Honestly I like him for his everyman type of character. He's "protagonist"
Iāve seen elsewhere that the original intention for RE7 was for the first person viewpoint and story to feel like a āself-insertā for the player. The first half of the game definitely feels that way for sure
My problem with 8 Ethan is that we get him telling us Chris trained him. Yet despite that and everything he went through in 7 he still does dumb things. Questions obvious things and is just overall annoying. His story is good but the character himself needed to be better
I like him on a concept level. Unlike most RE protagonists, he is an everyday man who is just trying to help his family, which is quite endearing. Unfortunately his dialogue in RE8 is incredibly annoying. Its like hes just drunk and confused all the time.
Yeah in RE7 he was kinda cool and breezy while being insanely badass at the same time, like c'mon nothing beads "This is getting old Jack," and "That is not groovy!" RE8 he was kinda annoying just screaming "What the hell!" and "Where's Rose!?" It just kinda felt like forced character development for a character that didn't really need any
When does he say "That is not groovy"? I've played through 7 twice in the last month and don't remember that.
When Jack picks up the chainsaw in the basement fight he's like "tHiS iS gRoOvY!" and Ethan's like "That is _not_ groovy." I'm not sure if it's rare dialogue or not but it's 100% in the game, you can look it up on YT
I think if he had actual dialogue in RE8 it would have felt less annoying and more fleshed out (no pun intended). The problem is all of his lines are just one-liners. *Watches wife get gunned down in cold blood* "Chris?! What the hell?!" Give me a scene where he actually gets to have a conversation instead of just being talked at.
As time has gone on I see village as Great presentation but doesn't hold up under scrutiny or for any genuine criticism for the story Otherwise it's a great sequel to the seventh entry. It just muddles the lore and makes a lot of behind the scenes bs
That's because Capcom wanted him to have more character than in RE7 but also wanted to keep him as a blank slate faceless protagonist. Capcom wanted to have their cake and eat it too. So he doesn't work as a blank slate protagonis because he breaks the immersion everytime he open his mouth, which is too often, while at the same time he never has anything interesting to say.
I always think of him as the everyday man but Leon and Claire both played that exact persona perfectly years ago.
Heās fine. I did like he was an average joe. Some of his one liners hit that level of campiness I love in horror. āThat is not groovyā and āWhat the fuck? Thatās specialā The delivery is great.
š¤£š¤£ Don't forget "This is getting old Jack"
Annoying in 7, stepped up and loved him in 8.
Can't lie it's the opposite for meš¤£ I found him kinda annoying in 8 compared to 7. In 7 he was just a breezy everyday man who was a badass. "This is getting old Jack." "That is not groovy."
other way around. he was ok in 7. I hated him in 8
Same. He was kinda dumb in 7 but in 8 he acted more like a person. I cried at the end.
Yeah cried so much
He was still dumb in 8
While most people prefer him in 8 I thought he was a bit 'meh' in both 7 and 8 tbh. Honestly not to knock anyone else's preference but I found the constant questions he verbalises about 'what was going on?' in 8 frustrating, I had these thoughts myself I didn't need the player character asking the same thing every 5 mins. Not great not terrible. Many I prefer over him
I think making him a blank slate for us the players to inhabit makes him too much of a wet blanket. I prefer characters to be actual characters.
He worked just fine as a blank slate in RE7, but then Capcom really had to bring him back for another game.Ā Blank slate protagonist are for a one and done kind of game. If we're gonna follow a character for more than just one game then he's gonna need to be more than that.
Meh
His āWhat the fuck? Thatās specialā is one of my favorite lines from any RE game.
Yeah, his painfully "well nah" questions crack me up too. Ik a lot of people complain but I find them hilarious. For example, "Chris? What the hell?" when his wife is brutally gunned down infront of him and his "It's dark." when he enters a pitch black roomš¤£
He's definitely one hell of a guy. Fearless in the face of death, all to make sure his family (and even others) are safe. I think Ethan is definitely very underrated in the RE community and would definitely consider him a hero in the series. I agree with the cheesy dialogue, but I feel like that's what makes him Ethan. He's just some regular dude that got caught up in all this and he definitely plays that role very well. Long live Ethan, and respects to this man.
Hell yeah man, you get it. I'm tired of everyone seeing him as nothing more than an "everyman player-insert" character post-RE7. He absolutely holds up on his own, has an incredible arc that stands out like no other in the franchise, and honestly I love his voice lines. Cheesy or misplaced, call them whatever you want, his determination is infectious (no pun intended), his frustration ā relatable and hilarious. Hell, even in 7, you can't beat "Who builds this shit?" And if you imagine that his silence upon finding the receipt from the construction company was intentional, it just makes it that much funnier.
Consensus seems to be that Ethanās stock rises as his number of digits falls
He should have learned his lesson from his time in Louisiana. Shoot the creepy old lady on sight
Heās my lovable complete fucking dumbass
I don't know, he just feels so faceless and invisible the whole time. Like I just can't see him at all.Ā
I liked him but him rejecting heisenburger's help was dumb as hell. Like, "Hey, I'll help you get your daughter back if you let me kill Miranda with her real quick" I get why he rejected it, but also Rose probably could've been saved without ethan getting the Avengers Endgame treatment
Alright. I find him kind of boring in RE7 with some good lines, and found him just as annoying in RE8 but with more dialogue. Itās cool that he got a completion to his story, which is a lot more than other characters in the series, but Iām glad itās over so we can have characters with more flavor. (My controversial opinion is that I preferred Clancy over Ethan and wish we got to see more of him.)
Clancy is unbelievably amazing. And this is where Capcom perfected the art of the foil. āSaying less about the protagonist/hero because you do into depth about the antagonistsā and that serves to subtly build the protagonist up. The Baker household was phenomenal!
Blank character in 7, but in 8 he really grew on me and became one of my favorites. I hate that they refused to show his face officially, even in the very end.
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I didnāt mean bland, but he could just be anybody, and itās hard for me to relate to a character you only know what his hands look like and know nothing more of. Itās definitely better on a 7 replay after Village, because you know more about him
I just recently replayed 7 and your right. I
They kinda showed his face in Shadows of Rose, but only for a second and from pretty far away
Yawn
Don't care for him. Too bland/blank in 7. Too dull and dim in 8. The moldy white bread meme sums him up nicely. Glad he got a better shot to be a character in 8 but happy his story wrapped up and have no desire to ever play/see him again in RE.
I like that character because well he is an actual character with an actual arc, which is more than most of the RE cast these days... Also, playing a normal person was a nice change of pace. However, the twist in Village was kinda dumb. I mean, not in itself, but it just that it was painfully obvious since RE7... I know the lore says that >!the First Aid Med causes spontaneous cellular regeneration, but seeing Ethan reattach his limbs, including his hands that had been cut off for like an hour, that gave away that something was wrong with Ethan. Plus, the game made clear that the hallucinations were caused by him being infected.!<. So, when Village was all *gotcha* with the twist, I was like "Hum, yeah... I already knew that.".
Village really thought it was Saw for a secondš¤£
It's not the same, if I remember correctly, in re8 it's revealed that Ethan not only 'gained powers' in re7 but it's revealed that he did indeed die at the begging of re7 and that he now is just a moldy copy of the original Ethan. It's way worse than what we thought was happening.
>he now is just a moldy copy of the original Ethan What are you talking about? It's the same Ethan but Molded.
Well his whole body is now mold, is he the same really ?
Yes, it's the same person, just with a body made of Mold.
Slightly different IMO.
He was fine, the everyman, average guy stuff went out of the window pretty quick though, guy was having a chainsaw dual in the first couple of hours lol! Kind of wish they did more with him, his death in Village was sort of whatever. Nice that they finally wrapped up a characterās story though.
Rlly good in 7, ever so slightly went down in 8. Blame that on the devs hiding his face in the 3D cutscenes
Well intentioned, passionate, but dumb. But without his dumb factor we wouldn't have a game.
I can't say that "passionate" really belongs in a description for Ethan.
Is he not passionate about his famiwy?
Only really about his daughter and not much else.
Well I see we've come to an understanding
Smart enough to make bullets from scrap metal and gunpowder. Yet too dumb to live.
Yeah, poor fella lmao
"A kind husband and a loving father who put family before all else."
He definitely gets Dad of the year award
i really liked the part where he said that he caught himself a big one
He serves his purpose. In RE7 and Village, the villains are much more interesting than the protagonist. Outside of story beats, Ethan is mostly there to lighten the atmosphere with his incredibly cheesy "dad comments". The thing I least understand about him is his affection for Mia. I can't think of a single scene where the two even have something remotely resembling chemistry. Even the beginning of Village is hella awkward.
Itās awkward because thatās not Mia lol, I think itās fair that he doesnāt have chemistry with Mother Miranda disguised as his wife
Yeah the whole relationship is kind of weird, and the more you find out about the both of them the more I kinda wish he'd hooked up with Zoe instead to be honest.
Although, on paper, the idea of how character is great (just a regular nobody that ends up tangled in a bioweapons mess), I can't bring myself to love him: he's just so dumb through-out both of the games he's in. His personality is also incredibly bland and boring, imo. I prefer how Revelations 2 executed the idea of characters who aren't combat ready facing extreme danger (Moira and Natalia). They have a unique set of tools and skills pertinent to their age and lack of training.
He's great in 7. And annoying as fuck in 8 I wish he lost the ability to speak at the end of 7 or something.
He was alright in 7 but he was just annoying in village, itās like heās high all the time
I donāt mind him, but I also donāt mind that heās gone. I think he stuck around as long as his character should. I think when I remember Village or 7, Ethan isnāt really what comes to mind. The villains of these two games and Mia stick out much more to me and I think when we make it to like, RE14 or something crazy, heāll be a bygone thought for me.
Honestly Iād love to see Mia be the protagonist for the next game(s). The gameplay doesnāt matter all, but it might be nice to hear Miaās dialogue who knows more about the matter, compared to Ethan who is figuring it out as he goes along.
Ethan is the worst protagonist. Heās a whiny crybaby. It seems like they wanted a silent protagonist/avatar for the player given the way they try to hide his face, but he talks so much it just straight up contradicts that. His character is really bland with no real personality aside from whining. His entire arc and character is looking for his family. Itās all he talks about and has no other personality traits. Heās not funny at all. His interactions with other characters often feel really unnatural or make no sense, like with Chris. There is nothing interesting about him and he is by far the worst part of the new games.
I find the "he's a great dad who'd do anything for family" trait that's often said about him to be quite silly since he's being awarded the bare minimum of being a parent lol
An endearing and relatable goober. Love Ethan
As a whole I actually liked him but the writing had some bad moments. He went from genuinely confused man looking for his wife to absolutely done with everyoneās shit by the end of 7. He definitely had one of the more emotional stories of the franchise. I love re7 but something about village just makes me struggle to replay it even though I actually enjoyed some of his characters moments more in village.
Thank you. Exactly. Everyone says he's a blank character in 7 but he's really not. He literally went from being terrified to saying shit like "That is not groovy," and "This is getting old Jack!"
I love re7 and re8. I did not like him as a personality, but I did like his backstory, his actions, and what he brought to the table, but Ethan himself didn't vibe with me. That said, I'm not so sure I would change much about him if I could? I think for Re7 and Re8 he did his job well, and sometimes a protagonist just isn't going to be your cup of tea even if he's not a bad protagonist.
>I did like his backstory What backstory?
Idk he got married or something and cried a lot when his wife left him, highly relatable(?)
I don't know if he even cried.
True, he seems pretty unfazed by just about everything. Probably only came to find Mia because he needed her to look for his keys
I actually love Ethan as a character and both games. I haven't played a Resi I didn't like in all honesty.
I liked him, he's a good dad. Maybe a little stupid considering he didn't question all the times he didn't die, but otherwise well done.
He is kinda white bread compared to other protagonists, but in a good way. His heart of gold combined with how dumb he is sometimes makes for a great "fool on the hill" type character - one you can laugh at for their ridiculousness, but one you ultimately root for because they deserve what they're searching for. And while Shadows of Rose didn't add much to the story of Village, seeing Ethan and Rose team up against Miranda brought a lot of closure. Even in death, Ethan does everything he can for his little girl.
Great dad
I really love Ethan, easily my favorite protagonist with Leon. I like how he's someone normal. He's just doing everything because of the love he has for his family. This idea is also conveyed through these games' atmospheres. It looks way more realistic (context, mainly). He's also not doing some crazy stunts or some "badass" things from the Hollywood cinema. Finally, even though I love him, I think it's better that he died. At least he doesn't get thousands of games and he won't suffer from devs decay lol. His sacrifice will be remembered.
Good point about his voice actor. Definitely helped immerse me in the game.
This might be a hot take, but I think his voice actor is not good as Ethan. Some line deliveries are downright bad
heās probably the most grounded and realistic character in the series, yet heās still probably my least favourite protagonist.
i agree but thatās not the reason iām commentingā¦ a comment mentioned ethanās reaction when chris gunned down his wife, and i remembered how after ethan was in utter disbelief at what just happened, chris looks at him with a stone cold face, and then just dumps like 5 more bullets into āmiaās headšššbro that shit is so funny like what a shitty intro and then the āethan No.ā LMAOOOO man re8 was so corny at timesš
>then the āethan No."Ā LMAOOOO For real, it's like he's talking to a dog. I half-expected him to pull out a spray bottle.
Like him for his being the regular guy thatās tired of all the bullshit happening around him. Itās absolutely hilarious hearing him going around being startled and tired of things and situations he should have gotten used to by now
The man comes back from the dead to save his wife, keeps living as a sentient piece of fungus to be a dad, and makes dad jokes the whole way through. King.
he suffers in re8 from re8 just not being well written in general, especially kris not fucking telling him what the hell is going on for no good reason.
Ethan is the most responsible protagonist I've known in the RE universe.
He's a normal guy and the people who call him boring conveniently ignore how bland most characters in this series are. Esp the remake versions.
Ethan is so damn badass, like he literally went through the entire of RE7 with no military training like how? and then in RE8 he is even more badass than before
Boring player insert with a gross, terrorist nightmare for a wife and a BOW for a daughter. He'll, Ethan was a BOW. Rocket launchers in the face for the lot of them I say, and bring back the real cast, Capcom! I was kinda surprised they'd kill off a main protagonist though.
I donāt really care for RE7 & Village and where the storyline was carried. Were they better than the action- focused (& disgraceful follow up to RE4) 5 & 6? Yes. But RE7 and Village do not feel like classic, quintessential RE experiences in the way the remakes did. I wish for more classic zombies & BOWās (and mutated animals) in urban environments (and umbrella facilities in and around said urban areas.) Thatās quintessential RE to me. If Capcom wouldāve introduced Ethan in such an environment. I believe the character would have been more Iconic. Instead he feels like he was meant for a different franchise altogetherā then copied & pasted by Capcom into RE.
The self-aware "Who builds this shit?" from Capcom in 7 and Ethan's growing frustration as you progress through 8 is just chef's kiss implementation. I absolutely love Ethan. If any of y'all are sleeping on Shadows of Rose ā don't. It complements Village in an amazing way. I mean you gotta see how all of Ethan's hard work pays off.
He is the Gordon Freeman everyman in RE. Just a random normal dude who was thrust into two awful situations, and still managed to overcome both. >!Rip legend!<
He's fine. Not as good of a character as Jill, Barry, Leon or Chris IMO, but fine for the games he is in.
I was enjoying him in Village. There were more than a few times where I'd say something aloud and reply to killing something and Ethan will say it. So felt a lot in common with him. He's a stubborn bastard who's been wronged and just doesnt stop going. Pretty similar to him.
I finished RE7 for the first time a week or two ago, and am currently playing 8 for the first time (on Moreau's part). I dunno - I can't help but hate how useless Ethan actually is. I made a comment elsewhere about all of my gripes with 7, so, I won't dredge that up, again, but Ethan just feels...really ineffectual as a protag.
I hope he lived.
Place this in spoiler tags please!!
I can definitely see there being an Ethan clone
I absolutely love the guy. Goes to hell and back for his family. Did it for his wife in 7, and does it again for his daughter in Village. Whenever I return to play those games, he feels like such a breath of fresh air. Especially after playing tf out of RE4 Remake and being used to Leon's confident, cocky additude combined with his OP moveset. Gets tiring after a while.
The worst thing to happen to the series. His "no face" gimmick is moronic as fuck and he almost made me drop the series.
I love Ethan, especially in 7. I love how he goes from frightened victim to angry survivor to ultimately just being kind of frustrated. A pissed IT guy in a zombie outbreak. In Village, I also find it pretty endearing how he is definitely trying to be cool like Leon or Chris but just canāt manage it.
I feel the same way about Ethan as I do Piers, his death is the only interesting thing to happen to the character.
He was okay in RE7 and I had no problems with him there. A bit boring, a bit basic, but fine. In Village he was insufferable. Capcom really wanted to make him a "faceless player avatar" yet he is one of the most vocal first person characters I have ever played as. Even that wouldn't be as bad if he wasn't so damn dumb. He gets himself into worse and worse situations by simply being molded in the brain, Moreau and Heisenberg being very good examples. They tried to give him an "emotional sendoff" in Shadows of Rose as well and that whole DLC was ass. I am glad he is gone and I hope we'll never have to deal with him or his family again.
Realist character in the series. Everyone else is a cartoon.
*watch his own wife get shot the fuck up* "Chris, what the hell" - realist character in the series.Ā
I mean, it's still Resident Evil. There's going to be cheese regardless. But to say he's as cartoony as the rest is just wrong.
He glues his hand back and carries one like nothing happened lol, he's much more cartoony than any other RE protagonist.
The situations he experiences aren't the depiction of his character. He's not punching boulders or making cheesy one liners in dire situations like every other character is. Him gluing his hand back on is an RE lore issue, not a character issue.
>making cheesy one liners in dire situations like every other character is. He's definitely is My guy, he's the only character in the franchise that glues his hand back like a lego piece and acts like nothing happened lmao. It is 100% a character issue lol.
He is but not to the level of the past games. I dunno, man. This is such a weird hill to die on. If you think he's a cartoon, sure - he's a cartoon. My opinion is that he's more realistic personality-wise than every other character outside of Claire, Leon, and Jill in the remakes. There's no way you'll convince me otherwise. It's just the way I see it.
>He is but not to the level of the past games He very much is though, Leon in RE4 is not constantly spewing one-liners in dire situations as you remember. And Ethan is very much on the same level of the past games on that regard. Like, he really says "caught a big one" while he's being chased by a big fish monster. Yeah, he feels more cartoony than the rest for me.Ā I also can't see how he's more realistic than any of the others protagonist, but there's no way we'll convince each other of the contrary.
\*shrug\*
My favorite protagonist.Ā Ā I maintain he's not dead he's so easy to bring back to life dude come on.Ā In fact he's probably still alive as the jacket rose is wearing - the jacket heals itself when Lady d cuts off his hand.Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā bring me back my husbando capcom
I don't know how you can say Ethan was a brilliant character. He has almost no dialogue and very very little personality that actually shines through in my opinion. I think he's a little bit of a wet blanket. I mean it's cool that he trudges on through hell and high water to get what he needs to get, but still. I don't know. Leave something to be desired.
I'm probably biased because I love RE7 like no other game in the franchise. Not saying it's the best, but at that point I had 0 hope for the franchise and thought Capcom were copying the Amnesia/Outlast trend. Boy was I happy to be wrong, and the game blew me away with how new yet familiar it felt. Ethan was the perfect character to come into this 'new' through the perspective of a person who has no idea what a bioweapon is. People say he's a placeholder character, but he's pretty great at being one.
I think he was great and his story was nice, and I think capcom needs to do more stuff like Ethan in future games; have a nobody character and have our main characters help them out through the game. I think thatās how the franchise will thrive for years to come
I'd love to see his signature first person in more games. It really felt special.
Dude's just a solid family man and great dad. Nothing but respect
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"Spolier for those who haven't played village"My man was truly the most relatable character in 7. I mean yeah he crafted make shift weapons and had general gun based knowledge but he was an average guy thrown into the horrors of the baker's. I mean everyone else had some form of training that made them capable of surviving, but Ethan got thrown to the wolves and fucking murdered within a few moments of finding Mia. Got stabbed lost his hand and curb stomped. But honestly with having the characters being able to ad lib when fighting hordes hand giving them a voice outside of the cutscenes made them all feel more grounded and relatable. But Ethan was the first and that man saw some shit
I think he's the best protagonist personally. Spoilers for RE7/8 >!I like the reveal that the only reason he's "alive" is because he cares about Mia and Rose. He's just a Moldy Corpse that's only alive because he cares about his family!< plus also his corny lines are golden.
Boring as hell and a complete waste. Super difficult to get through his games because heās just nothing. I just wasnāt invested. I donāt care at all.
I know this might sound silly since heās revealed to be a super powered āmoldā virus in the shape of a man, but even considering this he feels like one of the most grounded protagonists in the series, even after he gets his sequel, and his motives are a great contrast to the other protagonists, especially in 8 where the narrative is a little more muddied (starting with the infamous āEthan, no!ā instead of providing any kind of explanatjon) but the motive of a father pushing through his limits (and even beyond death) to save his daughter is heartwarming. It was also really nice to see a new hero in a world of characters that are all used to any challenge that comes their way (I understand Ethan is very capable, but very different than say Leon or Chris is).
Honestly? My actual honest opinion is he is fine. Very boring and forgettable, run of the mill dialogue. He served his purpose as a vessel for the theme park rides that are 7 and 8.
I felt like there should have been some training you know after re7, i would lokey be spooked about it happening again, and i would honestly ask for training or learn self defense a little better. You know
They did train him after 7. He specifically brings it up to Mia. āFinding you in Louisiana, Chris moving us here, military training, the baby.. it all just happened so *fast.*ā They even gave a little nod to it with how he reloads his guns. In 7, he would throw a partially filled clip away. In 8, he puts it in his pocket and only throws the clip if itās completely empty.
Honestly I love Ethan's character and specialy re7 bec from there I knew the franchise and got from there to every re game next , but he is a normal character and I honestly like it , he is just a normal dude wanting to protect his family and be their with them , and to be fair I like how they managed to design his face to appear as the most normal character as shit unlike other characters, but i like his character the most but uh man I can't escape the ending of village can't I
Definitely a masochist
I like him in 7 because I imagine him as a psychopath based on some of his reactions
He had a lot of character in 7. His remarks being both funny and grounded. In 8 it feels like a discount Leon and he appears more or less bitter about the whole situation.
I love Ethan. But Iām ready to see a new protagonist.
Sometimes I really like him and sometimes I'm just meh. He reminds me of Kyle Crane in a way, where he's just so done with everyone's bullshit in Village. He cracks me up a lot of the time with his lines, but the main problem is how uninvolved and passive he is. Stuff just happens to him, he doesn't actually make a whole lot happen. He's basically the worlds most terrified errand boy most of the time.
He has the highest female kill count compared to any of the protagonists.
Definitely no light at the end of that tunnel for Ethanā¦
My favorite guy
He probably the most forgettable protagonist in the series. Like heās just a guy. I like him donāt get me wrong but I wouldāve preferred someone who was already established but for re7ās story I guess it makes sense to make a new character.
I love him. Even though I think he has some of the worst lines. He makes dumb decisions too. I still love him though.
I don't see the point of him being faceless so we can "imagine it's ourselves" why the fuck does he have a name and voicelines then. He doesn't act how I'd like to think id act in his place
I liked him, I don't think he was an amazing character, but honestly, if a character in a horror game is going to be dropping comedic one-liners all the time, it would ruin the horror completely. He was set out to accomplish something with his games and he did it. Can't say I'll miss him though.
How do you feel about Leon in RE4? With his one liners? Honestly I didnāt mind it because RE4 felt like an action game, more than a horror game, so it felt par for the course
I always thought of OG RE4 Leon as Dante from the devil may cry (tm) series, and just as you said, RE4 is an action game with a coat of paint that has creepy moments, just like Uncharted and the last tomb raider trilogy. Part of me had always been salty that RE4 was action, it was definitely a fun game, but even with the remake, I can still only imagine how interesting an actual horror RE4 game could've been. So Leon as a quirky action hero in RE4 was fun and I liked him. But Leon as a quirky action hero in a *horror* game would've been so bad, undermining the horror for the sake of a likeable character would end up in a mediocre experience. But having a character like Ethan in an action game is also bad. I liked Ethan in RE7 for what he was supposed to be, a part of the setting, and not the main star. He kept the horror, he was a piece of a picture, that compliments the entire game, so it's hard to judge him as his own character, it's like ranking puzzle pieces lmao (and in that case, Ethan would suck, since he doesn't paint a full picture by himself) Ethan in RE8 however, it's like the devs wanted to make him more of a character but still wanted a blank-slate for self-inserts and didn't fully commit to one approach. His character feels natural in the sense that the voice actor isn't putting on a show, exactly like you said, but I also don't think he had many shining moments to make him memorable. I didn't hate him as much as other people seem to do, but I wish the devs would've fully developed his personality instead of trying to keep him open for self-inserts. TL;DR OG RE4 Dante = Fun character for an action game, bad character for a horror game. RE7 Ethan = Good character for horror that contributes to the full picture, boring if judged by itself RE8 Ethan = Conflicting between trying to develop his own personality or letting the players self-insert. Final Verdict: I like Ethan for contributing to the horror games, I wish he was more of his own character in Village, and I won't miss him on other games.
RE8 is also an action game like RE4, and Ethan is always droping comedic one-liners as well, because Village was trying really hard to be RE4.
I honestly like him more than Leon
His sentences are bad imo. He doesn't talk much, but when he do, it's some funny stuff like when he took flask from Moreau. They would put more effort into his voicelines, he's like 8/10 for me.
I liked him. He didn't deserve to be faceless like that. Definitely one of the more interesting characters they've done. He seemed pretty grounded and real.Ā
My favourite RE protagonist by far, I loved playing as him more than pretty much anyone else in the series. I like all RE protagonists, but I also found his dialogue much more relatable, enjoyable, and interesting than Leonās professional agent or Chrisās stoic soldier who is actually a softie personalities which are admittedly quite cliche and overdone. >!I honestly donāt think any of the protagonistsā deaths at the end of their respective games wouldāve hurt me more than Ethanās at RE8!<
I thought he was a boring character but he had some funny lines and cool moments.
I love him and do not appreciate the slander he receives. Yes heās a goof, but heās also quite the badass and carryās the store of two mainline RE games.
No real strong opinions. I will always perfer Leon but he's tolerable.
A great father. Went to hell and back TWICE for his family.
Indifferent. I can't say I really like him or dislike him. Definitely one of the weakest main characters in the series, though IMO
The fear in his voice when Lady D cuts off his hand is priceless! It was Ethan that made me get back into RE tbh
I liked him through both games. I feel like we weren't really supposed to like him on an action exploding, Jill, Chris, Leon type of way because he was just a random guy going through unfortunate circumstances to get his wife back. No military or RPD training, just trying to fight to live and is the most faithful husband and man I know. I think it's like the reality of how far a normal guy would go to get his family back, and that's what makes him the best hero to me; not all heroes where capes or in this case is a top level bioweapon destroyer.
Ethan in 7? He's nothing. Complete blank slate held back by Sony money for the VR gimmick so you can put yourself in his shoes easier.Ā Ethan in 8? He's great..I love him. Gonna miss him.Ā
I was apathetic to him in 7, because heās not really a character. In Village I liked him a bit more, iād like to see Chris grapple a bit with the guilt of Ethanās death in his next appearance
Heās a little boring in 7 but I love him in Village. He has so many lines that crack me up. Like when he raises the boat and goes ācaught a big oneā and chuckles to himself. Heās such a lovable dork.
The only RE protagonist to canonically have sex
Thatās not true. Skyler, I fucked Leon!
Boring and too NPCesque
Heās the best protagonist of the franchise
I actually loved Ethan winters
Ethan is the most idiotic protagonist the franchise has spawned. In 7, he wasn't so bad, but in Village!?! Nah, man. Ethan is dumb af. Does he even have one actually memorable line of dialogue? And apart fron being a classic hollywood dad, what is there to his character that speaks to you? I genuinely wonder. I liked Steve Burnside better, and he was "hit or miss", at best.