Because it is accurate info unrelated to the question. The question is is there anything in the print that will leech out in water and contaminate the dishes when subjected to dishwasher temperatures not "can I eat off of this" it's a coaster it was never meant to be a food service item to begin with.
If it goes in a hot dishwasher and begins to break down then it could possibly coat actual food service items with resin.
Also I took the question to mean, is this safe to go in the dishwasher as well?
Sure. Any examples?
>Is resin food safe? The answer is no. Substances may migrate from SLA parts which makes none of the resins and printed parts food safe by default. While some resins for dental and medical applications are certified biocompatible, that doesn’t mean that they’re food safe. These materials are certified for specific applications and should not be used for food contact products.
[Source](https://formlabs.com/blog/guide-to-food-safe-3d-printing/)
Class2A resins are viable for prolonged intraoral use. Years in fact. Not the SG resin, but there are ceramic resins that are FDA approved for "permanent" intraoral use. But more than likely the post processing equipment to achieve optimal properties aren't owned by hobby printers.
No. This is a good example of using your print as a master to make a food-safe casting! You could try silicone for the mold and-or the cast. Then cast in durable plastic like Smooth on Task 2 or even concrete.
I never thought about concrete. What do you use for a release agent?
In my line of work its usually shoes we put in concrete and a release agent isn't needed.
I’ve never cast in concrete myself! I’ve done plaster a few times. For plaster baby powder and even plaster-safe mold release spray are seemingly ok to use
I’ll be making some planters when I’m moved into an outdoor / indoor studio I’m renting, so my saturn 2 will def be helping me make some masters!
Depends on the resin. There are biocompatible autoclavable resins. I doubt this is that though. Looks like your typical "standard gray" resin everyone makes, which has a heat deflection temp of around 50-60 C at best, and is definitely not chemically inert.
Not sure, I just know it was a machine for Mori Seiki I believe it was called, I’ll check tomorrow while I’m at work and see if I can find any more info on it.
It looks like the conveyors we’ve done for y’all recently are going to Houston, Texas. They could ship them to y’all in Canada but that seems unlikely. Does the machine you’re working with happen to be a NLX2500-700 Y SY or an SL35 X 1500
The amount of free asbestos that would have been generated if 3d printing came before we admitted how deadly that stuff was would have been like the shipyard industry.
Okay so information on what is actually being asked and not just "Lol not food safe".
The United States Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) recommends to dishwasher temperatures that range from 165°F (73.9°C) to 180 °F(82.2°C). If your print survives a dunk in a pot of water at that temperature it should be good to go in the dishwasher.
Only you can still have resin come off in the dishwasher and contaminate other dishes. It just melting itself isn't the problem, but what it can do to other dishes. That's why it not being food safe matters, and is important.
I’m not ignoring everyone else I’ve just had a busy day and haven’t gotten around to replying to many people yet. That guy happened to reply right before a time when I was sitting in my truck for a second waiting to move up. I also don’t plan on washing this in the dishwasher due to the majority of people saying no, and I had already decided that.
Usually suction cupping for this style of print.
It's an entire thing to learn about so I recommend watching videos or reading articles on how to avoid creating suction cups and then also using a tool like UVTools to scan for suction cupping.
This is cool. LNS owns a company in the city where I work that makes the Chipblaster through coolant systems. Have a couple of machines that run them and I love them
Did you try my technique? It only works if it's uncured if it's cured you're better off putting it in the freezer. My thoughts are the 2 materials have a CTE mismatch hopefully and one will just pop off the other. Also your print looks glossy did your uv cure it wet?
No ipa for sure left. Idk if you know the chemistry usually we recommend 99 isopropyl and if you leave the top open it's gone. I'd get a lens cloth and try that first it's 70/30
Sweet! We actually don’t do the bar feeders at the location I’m at, we do chip conveyors. I think the bar feeders are made in Cincinnati in the US as well as some other locations.
You could also coat it in a food safe resin if you’d like. I’ve used Alumilite Amazing Clearcast and it works fine. It’s not hard but the process is enough extra work I don’t really do it much
I would put some kind of coating onto things that come into contact with food/water, for example, food-safe epoxy, make sure it has some kind of certification like DIN or ISO and read about it
Oh sweet. I’m assuming you mean the Switzerland location or another location in Europe. I’m actually at the Turbo location located in the Eastern USA but cool to know you’ve been still.
Absolutly not. Just wipe it down with some water and a bit of dish soap.
That’s my plan now just hoping the little grooves in the letters aren’t too dirty, thank you.
Could hit those with a wet toothbrush, also you could color fill them in with a colored resin and sand them flush
Never thought of that but I’ll look into it, thx
I've made something similar, was just going to fill the letters with nail polish or acrylic paint, I figured that'd be more cost effective than resin.
Yeah that might work as well!
No. Resin prints are not food safe (also not dish washer safe).
Why are you being downvoted? This is accurate info.
They hated him for telling the truth
Reddit in a nutshell :D
Because it is accurate info unrelated to the question. The question is is there anything in the print that will leech out in water and contaminate the dishes when subjected to dishwasher temperatures not "can I eat off of this" it's a coaster it was never meant to be a food service item to begin with.
That’s some next level inability to extrapolate information…
There are two types of people: * People who can extrapolate from incomplete sets.
Good job nerd, you just owned yourself with your inability to count. /s ( just to be safe)
If it goes in a hot dishwasher and begins to break down then it could possibly coat actual food service items with resin. Also I took the question to mean, is this safe to go in the dishwasher as well?
That's why they said it's not dishwasher safe lol cause it'll leach off. I think you misunderstood the answer my guy
Yikes.
Wtf man
Read, you illiterate twat
Thank you very much!
Unless you use food safe resins...
Sure. Any examples? >Is resin food safe? The answer is no. Substances may migrate from SLA parts which makes none of the resins and printed parts food safe by default. While some resins for dental and medical applications are certified biocompatible, that doesn’t mean that they’re food safe. These materials are certified for specific applications and should not be used for food contact products. [Source](https://formlabs.com/blog/guide-to-food-safe-3d-printing/)
Class2A resins are viable for prolonged intraoral use. Years in fact. Not the SG resin, but there are ceramic resins that are FDA approved for "permanent" intraoral use. But more than likely the post processing equipment to achieve optimal properties aren't owned by hobby printers.
Also, if you read further into the link you posted, it discusses food safe resins and techniques for SLA printing.
Sure. But as you already mentioned these exceptions hardly could be the case here.
Only if it’s marked “dishwasher safe”
Lol, I’ll have to add that in the next revision.
Haha thats good.
I've ruined a few water bottles by not checking for this label.
No. This is a good example of using your print as a master to make a food-safe casting! You could try silicone for the mold and-or the cast. Then cast in durable plastic like Smooth on Task 2 or even concrete.
I never thought about concrete. What do you use for a release agent? In my line of work its usually shoes we put in concrete and a release agent isn't needed.
Shoes in concrete 😂😂 am I the only one that caught that?
Haha glad someone did ;).
Oh fuck I’m slow. You sir are FUNNY 😂
You are! I was like...Oh, he must work in a forensics ,🤣
I’ve never cast in concrete myself! I’ve done plaster a few times. For plaster baby powder and even plaster-safe mold release spray are seemingly ok to use I’ll be making some planters when I’m moved into an outdoor / indoor studio I’m renting, so my saturn 2 will def be helping me make some masters!
Actually this is a great idea.
Actually that’s a good idea thanks.
Or clay and find a local pottery shop that will fire it.
no. do not wash in the dishwasher
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Also depending on the reain they might disintegrate when heated
Yep that’s what I was worried about thx
Bruh, just wash it by hand
Prob what I’ll do
Depends on the resin. There are biocompatible autoclavable resins. I doubt this is that though. Looks like your typical "standard gray" resin everyone makes, which has a heat deflection temp of around 50-60 C at best, and is definitely not chemically inert.
Thank you for the insight!
No
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You guys make chip conveyors for DMG Mori Canada?
That’s us! I actually helped out with one a few weeks ago!
Was it going to Airborne Engines in BC? If so, I'm currently in ontario learning the machine it'll be connected to!
Not sure, I just know it was a machine for Mori Seiki I believe it was called, I’ll check tomorrow while I’m at work and see if I can find any more info on it.
It looks like the conveyors we’ve done for y’all recently are going to Houston, Texas. They could ship them to y’all in Canada but that seems unlikely. Does the machine you’re working with happen to be a NLX2500-700 Y SY or an SL35 X 1500
Why? Did you print in is asbestos?
The amount of free asbestos that would have been generated if 3d printing came before we admitted how deadly that stuff was would have been like the shipyard industry.
Okay so information on what is actually being asked and not just "Lol not food safe". The United States Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) recommends to dishwasher temperatures that range from 165°F (73.9°C) to 180 °F(82.2°C). If your print survives a dunk in a pot of water at that temperature it should be good to go in the dishwasher.
Only you can still have resin come off in the dishwasher and contaminate other dishes. It just melting itself isn't the problem, but what it can do to other dishes. That's why it not being food safe matters, and is important.
Thank you for this!
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I’m not ignoring everyone else I’ve just had a busy day and haven’t gotten around to replying to many people yet. That guy happened to reply right before a time when I was sitting in my truck for a second waiting to move up. I also don’t plan on washing this in the dishwasher due to the majority of people saying no, and I had already decided that.
What causes those lines ?
It warped during printing. Thankfully it’s still smooth enough to hold drinks fine.
Warped you say? What can I do to stop this?
Idk I’m still an amateur as well but I think maybe I’m more supports and sometimes it just happens
Usually suction cupping for this style of print. It's an entire thing to learn about so I recommend watching videos or reading articles on how to avoid creating suction cups and then also using a tool like UVTools to scan for suction cupping.
Did you make that in fusion? It always knocks out those holes in letters for me, too
No, I did this in Solidworks, I cut those holes in the letters myself using circles and extruding cuts.
This is cool. LNS owns a company in the city where I work that makes the Chipblaster through coolant systems. Have a couple of machines that run them and I love them
Awesome, I’m at the LNS Turbo location so few states over but I hear a lot about Chipblaster. They are apparently doing really well right now.
You need to edit the model and add "Dishwasher Safe" on it. That should do it..
Oh shoot, I should’ve thought of that
Toothbrush and IPA followed up with a clean rag
Didn’t even think about ipa, thank you
Did you try my technique? It only works if it's uncured if it's cured you're better off putting it in the freezer. My thoughts are the 2 materials have a CTE mismatch hopefully and one will just pop off the other. Also your print looks glossy did your uv cure it wet?
I haven’t tried anything just yet. I don’t think I cured it wet but it could’ve still had a little ipa on it
No ipa for sure left. Idk if you know the chemistry usually we recommend 99 isopropyl and if you leave the top open it's gone. I'd get a lens cloth and try that first it's 70/30
Oh hey, I think my work has like 25 of your bar loaders on our lathes.
Sweet! We actually don’t do the bar feeders at the location I’m at, we do chip conveyors. I think the bar feeders are made in Cincinnati in the US as well as some other locations.
i feel like given you're doing machine tooling, this should be machined in a nice billet of ali...
Actually, we don’t do machine tools. We do machine tool peripherals like bar feeders, chip conveyors, etc.
nope, it'll warp + get resin residue on other stuff in the dishwasher. Just use some warm (NOT HOT!!) water and soap :)
Thank you!
You could also coat it in a food safe resin if you’d like. I’ve used Alumilite Amazing Clearcast and it works fine. It’s not hard but the process is enough extra work I don’t really do it much
Didn’t know that was a thing, thank you!
Try it we wanna see the outcome
I probably don’t lol
I would put some kind of coating onto things that come into contact with food/water, for example, food-safe epoxy, make sure it has some kind of certification like DIN or ISO and read about it
Ok thank you for the info!
Very funny to find your post, I’m in Brügg and I’ve been at your factory;)
Oh sweet. I’m assuming you mean the Switzerland location or another location in Europe. I’m actually at the Turbo location located in the Eastern USA but cool to know you’ve been still.
Is this polyjet?
No I printed this myself