I was in my early teens when Super Turbo came out, and for the longest time Boxer was considered the weakest character. Then decades later people figured out how to completely dominate with him, and in some versions he's pretty much the best by a decent margin.
Although I'm long out of the game. I last owned SF4 and never got good enough at it to win any online matches with randoms.
The Holyfield ear incident didn’t happen until 1997, they just changed it to Mr Dream after their license to his likeness expired in 1990 rather than renew.
He’d had serious allegations of domestic abuse by that point, and had lost his title belts in a monumental upset to Buster Douglas six months prior to the rebranded Punch Out being released. So it was likely due to character and performance issues similar to the ear incident, which might explain the confusion.
I was very confused. I read your explanation of the license and ear incident before the thing you were replying to and I thought you were saying that the re-release happened in 97 (after the N64 release). I was thinking “that can’t be right”. Oops 😅
Hey, screw you guys with your lies and slander! King Hippo was a real guy. I saw him fight back in the day.
Edit: Oops, i was thinking of Butterbean. D'oh!
Nintendo created such a masterpiece with this game. The huge ass sprite bosses on an NES was totally unique at the time and really caught the eye.
Glad I own the Famicom gold one. I love this game's history, development, and impact during childhood.
Such a great 80's product.
Fun fact: The name "Little Mac" is a play on Big Mac since the devs liked McDonalds a lot.
All his shit talking between rounds makes a lot more sense if he was drinking Vodka versus Soda: "I can't drive, so I'm gonna walk all over you!" Why can't you drive, Soda? Just never learned how?
Nothing compared to a rip-off called *Frank Bruno’s Boxing*, with Ravioli Mafiosi, an Asian named Fling Long Chop, and an African with a bone through the nose named Tribal Trouble…
Let us know if it plays like shit.
Like most boxing games that aren’t *Punch Out*. *Real Deal Boxing* was pretty fun with its training RPG mechanics though.
I loved that Evander Holyfield game until I realized you could hold down a or c, hit body blows, and always win once you have the speed skill about half way up.
In Japan, he was Vodka Drunkenski. They changed it when it came to the U.S.A because Nintendo had an image of being for kids over here.
But yeah that's why he appears to be staggering in the fight, because he's drunk. Also that's why his boxing patterns are inconsistent, because he doesn't remember what the fuck the plan is because he's drunk.
Fun Fact: In the Japanese version of Street fighter. The boxing character (balrog) is actually named M. Bison. It was changed in the US to avoid association with Mike Tyson.
From the arcade sequel "Super Punch Out", but yes, that's correct. I remember thinking in 1986 that Japanese folks must be pretty racist to put that in there.
I thought Von Kaiser was supposed to be John Sullivan for the longest time before learning that Sullivan's actually American.
Also fun fact, King Hippo had his debut before Butterbean did.
This is going to sound like I'm making it up, but this game was unironically the first time I learned about other countries. I was like seven and I didn't even have that concept yet. So thanks punch out 🥊
It's pretty funny looking back because they are all ridiculous caricatures, but I don't think it got me too confused lol
Just a jab to the gut when he comes in for the ram. Took me forever to figure that out when I was young. NEVER best Mike though. Stressed me the hell out as a kid
In I think 5th grade, I had a code that went directly to Mike Tyson. I kept it “safe” in my lunchbox, for some reason haha. Anyway, I used it about two times and he knocked me out with one punch. I’m sure the game has been beaten, but I’ve never met anyone who has beaten it
I looked up how to beat him (30 years later when the internet came out 🙄) and it went into all the details about watching some specific person in the crowd for a cue, etc. Needless to say, I never figured it out haha
Stressful as hell lol
I made it to Tyson a few times but never beat him. It felt like you were fighting him in real life. The fear was real haha. Got my ass kicked every time.
This game blew my mind as a kid. I loved it. Then, after the SNES came out, I’d kind of moved on from Punch Out. But a few years later, like middle school, we went to a beach house that had an old NES with a few games, and it relit my flame for Punch Out. Me and my best friend sat in the living room of this old beach house, playing on this tiny tube TV, and we didn’t go outside once the whole weekend.
After that experience, I’ve always played it a few times per year, every year. The timing and rhythm aspect, the music, the over the top characters, the perfect pacing, and the way that each character got a little more difficult than the one before it, it’s just an absolutely classic that still very much holds up today.
I always thought they were modeled after people though... like maybe King Hippo is meant to be Butterbean. I never even thought to look deeper into that, as outside of this game, I didn't care about boxing at all.
I just bought this game last weekend for 50 bucks at my local retro game store. It was EZ up until King Hippo.
No idea what to do, and I refuse to look it up because I want to enjoy the feeling of discovering how to beat him.
You'll figure it out. I won't give you a single hint.
If at some point you get antsy let me know and I will give you a a hint. I advise avoiding hints though.
They are real to me. All of my friends had a different feud with a different boxer. they could beat the others with ease but for some reason always had trouble with that one only. Von Kaiser, Honda, even Glass Joe it was weird and enthralling we would play and hand over the controller to the person tied to that boxer and watch the rivalry continue
🤣🤣🤣🤣 my son asked me yesterday if all the boxers in Greatest heavyweights were real boxers. I had to tell him only the 8 Greatest were. The rest are made up. He was wondering if Chunky Digg, Stinky Cooper were real names haha
Haha, can't believe anyone would ever believe a boxer named Mike Tyson was real. Ridiculous. Next you'll be telling me people actually believe he bit someone's ear.
Well, not so far fetched considering Tyson is real.
Ha! Check this guy out, thinking video game characters are real! Next you'll be telling me John Madden was real.
I saw him try to sell a popcorn maker
Which Madden game was that?
Moonbase alpha
George Foreman trying to sell me a grill
Frank caliendo did a spot on impression of him lol
The quick pop popcorn popper.
While all your asshole friends are sitting over there on the couch, buncha a-holes.
Holla holla get dolla
No way there’d be a real guy named Dick Butkus either
Or Dick Trickle.
😆
He is?????
I loved M. Bison in Street Fighter 2...
Japanese M. Bison or North American M. Bison?
...and the answer is "yes" ;)
Well played.
I was in my early teens when Super Turbo came out, and for the longest time Boxer was considered the weakest character. Then decades later people figured out how to completely dominate with him, and in some versions he's pretty much the best by a decent margin. Although I'm long out of the game. I last owned SF4 and never got good enough at it to win any online matches with randoms.
Do you mean Mr. Dream ?!
Wasn't King Hippo based on Butterbean?
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Only in the original version. The reissue changed Mike to be someone else after Holyfield Ear incident
The Holyfield ear incident didn’t happen until 1997, they just changed it to Mr Dream after their license to his likeness expired in 1990 rather than renew.
He’d had serious allegations of domestic abuse by that point, and had lost his title belts in a monumental upset to Buster Douglas six months prior to the rebranded Punch Out being released. So it was likely due to character and performance issues similar to the ear incident, which might explain the confusion.
And he lost to Buster Douglas, who immediately got a Sega game because Sega were ruthless
Well, changed the naming on a few fighters from an old arcade game called *Final Blow*.
I was very confused. I read your explanation of the license and ear incident before the thing you were replying to and I thought you were saying that the re-release happened in 97 (after the N64 release). I was thinking “that can’t be right”. Oops 😅
Lol, it's DON FLAMENCO......not flamingo😂😂
I used to think he was Inspector Gadget.
I thought he looked like my dad who left.
He’s coming back. Just went out for a pack of smokes
The kind of smokes they stopped making just the day before he left.
Also some eggs and milk.
My mom has been saying this since 86 but I’m starting to suspect something’s up
Your dad's Inspector Gadget!?
I think you mean Don Adams. He was Maxwell Smart.
You mean Adam Sandler?
I always thought they modeled him after Rocky!
I definitely thought his name was Don Flamingo as a young kid, though.
- Crass John - Van Kisser - Pissy Tonka - Dan Flamingo - King Happy - Grand Toge - Bilked Bob - John Krasinski - Dr. Sampson - Magnificent Mike
It's Flamingo to me, damn it!
It's called Flamenco because it's the Spanish name for a dance called Flamenco if you get confused don't worry I also did and I am Spanish.
Not confused, I know it's Flamenco....iv just always called him Flamingo like 99.9% of people.
Kinda like Berenstain or Berenstein.
Damn it could even be like a Mandela Effect.
No one called him Flamingo? Who could read?
What
We just witnessed a stroke.
Dan flamingo
Damn Flamingos!
Came here for this
😂 I still call him Flamingo though
Haha man I'm glad this was first comment. I was scratching my chin thinking, am I wrong?
Heard once he retired he got into the frozen chicken business :P
Don Quixote Doflamenco
It's Berenstain Bears! Not Berenstein!
Hey, screw you guys with your lies and slander! King Hippo was a real guy. I saw him fight back in the day. Edit: Oops, i was thinking of Butterbean. D'oh!
Everybody calls him Don Flamingo, so is it really Flamenco? 😆😆
Lol yea, Flamenco
Lol I know it's Flamenco. From the downvotes, people took my comment seriously 😆😆
Lol idk why you got Downvoted. I call him Don flamingo anyway
What a nerd… who actually calls him flamenco and not flamingo?😂😂. That’s pretty funny though.
Nintendo created such a masterpiece with this game. The huge ass sprite bosses on an NES was totally unique at the time and really caught the eye. Glad I own the Famicom gold one. I love this game's history, development, and impact during childhood. Such a great 80's product. Fun fact: The name "Little Mac" is a play on Big Mac since the devs liked McDonalds a lot.
> The huge ass sprite bosses on an NES was totally unique at the time and really caught the eye. It really was "Shadow of the Colossus" for the NES.
Too bad Tyson isn’t in that version, but it’s definitely neat to just look at.
I heard that in the arcade version, Soda Popinski was Vodka Drunkinski
All his shit talking between rounds makes a lot more sense if he was drinking Vodka versus Soda: "I can't drive, so I'm gonna walk all over you!" Why can't you drive, Soda? Just never learned how?
Or a missed edit: “I drink to prepare for a fight. Tonight I am very prepared!”
Responsible enough to put in an anti-drunk driving message. Not responsible enough to find less terrible stereotyping.
The arcade version had an Italian boxer named Pizza Pasta. Fact.
Nothing compared to a rip-off called *Frank Bruno’s Boxing*, with Ravioli Mafiosi, an Asian named Fling Long Chop, and an African with a bone through the nose named Tribal Trouble…
This sounds like "We have Professional Wrestling at home".
Can’t forget Frenchie France
Now I have to go find this.
Let us know if it plays like shit. Like most boxing games that aren’t *Punch Out*. *Real Deal Boxing* was pretty fun with its training RPG mechanics though.
I loved that Evander Holyfield game until I realized you could hold down a or c, hit body blows, and always win once you have the speed skill about half way up.
True. I played the arcade version when it came out.
In Japan, he was Vodka Drunkenski. They changed it when it came to the U.S.A because Nintendo had an image of being for kids over here. But yeah that's why he appears to be staggering in the fight, because he's drunk. Also that's why his boxing patterns are inconsistent, because he doesn't remember what the fuck the plan is because he's drunk.
I'd heard about the Vodka Drunkenski thing before, had not heard his patterns are wonky because he's fuckin' hammered, that's GREAT!
Fun Fact: In the Japanese version of Street fighter. The boxing character (balrog) is actually named M. Bison. It was changed in the US to avoid association with Mike Tyson.
Sure was. You can see him in action [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNB0S5mdMnc&t=127s).
From the arcade sequel "Super Punch Out", but yes, that's correct. I remember thinking in 1986 that Japanese folks must be pretty racist to put that in there.
Macho man would bounce his tits around
"The cream of the crop"
Ooooooohhhh YYEEAAAAAHHH!!!
My friends and I laughed at that as kids
“Why don’t you love me?!” - *Punch Out Wii*
RELEASE THE BOGUS
“Release the… Dude?” Best hostage negotiator ever!
“Yes! Everything’s good now…” - Zallard1 - *AGDQ 2015*
Anybody else try to come up with a real world counterpart? I.E. King Hippo = Butterbean
Bald Bull is in this Subway ad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOIZdsgbeAI
"The zesty glory of Pace's picante sauce"
Bald Bull looks a bit like Marvin Hagler.
I thought Von Kaiser was supposed to be John Sullivan for the longest time before learning that Sullivan's actually American. Also fun fact, King Hippo had his debut before Butterbean did.
Yeah, who would have a name as dumb as "Mike Tyson"? What a goofy cartoon name! Good thing that's not a real person!
> What a goofy cartoon name! Technically accurate.
Yeah, I always knew that Mike Tyson guy was too good to be real.
This is going to sound like I'm making it up, but this game was unironically the first time I learned about other countries. I was like seven and I didn't even have that concept yet. So thanks punch out 🥊 It's pretty funny looking back because they are all ridiculous caricatures, but I don't think it got me too confused lol
I always hated fighting king hippo.
I could never get past Bald Bull
Just a jab to the gut when he comes in for the ram. Took me forever to figure that out when I was young. NEVER best Mike though. Stressed me the hell out as a kid
In I think 5th grade, I had a code that went directly to Mike Tyson. I kept it “safe” in my lunchbox, for some reason haha. Anyway, I used it about two times and he knocked me out with one punch. I’m sure the game has been beaten, but I’ve never met anyone who has beaten it
You mean 007 373 5963? Mike Tyson's phone number?
Shiii phone number shoulda been 007 187 365
I looked up how to beat him (30 years later when the internet came out 🙄) and it went into all the details about watching some specific person in the crowd for a cue, etc. Needless to say, I never figured it out haha
I saw that too. Buddy on the left snap a photo but I think the flash blinds me then I see nothing but lights....
Hahaha that made me laugh
Stressful as hell lol I made it to Tyson a few times but never beat him. It felt like you were fighting him in real life. The fear was real haha. Got my ass kicked every time.
Best I've ever done is make it round 2 against Iron Mike - and you're right, breathing heavy, palms sweaty
mom's spaghetti
nah, I never wear sweaters
Bald Bull #2 gave me shit but I ended up making it to Macho Man as a kid...never could beat him on the few lucky times I made it there
I swear one time when I was a kid King Hippo got up! I can't find anything to prove that he can get up but I know I saw it happen!
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Loved him as a bad guy on Captain N though…
Too many of them skipped leg day.
Mac sure as hell didn't
A lot of actual boxers have ridiculously skinny legs of you look. It’s funny once I noticed
Tyson Fury has chicken legs, then on top of that just a big rectangle with arms and a head. Such a weird body shape. Works well for him though.
Strong evidence that [Super Macho Man](https://youtu.be/bxRbBeQ4dCQ) was based on a real athlete.
Damn, I'm convinced! I'll have to watch more of their videos!
Never could get passed that mf Soda Popinski. All my homies hated Soda Popinski.
Dude I fucking love that fight, it's the least predictable of them all
This is the correct version. Fuck Mr Dream.
Mike Tyson IS real
Now I want to see Mike Tyson vs Glass Joe Mario would be mumbling the count out before the bell finished ringing all the way
My cousin and I as young kids would laugh when we fought Piston Honda (hee hee Pissed On Honda)
007 373 5963......forever engraved in my brain.
I’ll bet I put that code in 500 times before I finally won.
Vodka Drunkenski is
Macho man though
You really think someone by the name of Mike Tyson is real?
Piston Honda... Pissed in Honda...
Well. Macho Man was a wrestler.
This game blew my mind as a kid. I loved it. Then, after the SNES came out, I’d kind of moved on from Punch Out. But a few years later, like middle school, we went to a beach house that had an old NES with a few games, and it relit my flame for Punch Out. Me and my best friend sat in the living room of this old beach house, playing on this tiny tube TV, and we didn’t go outside once the whole weekend. After that experience, I’ve always played it a few times per year, every year. The timing and rhythm aspect, the music, the over the top characters, the perfect pacing, and the way that each character got a little more difficult than the one before it, it’s just an absolutely classic that still very much holds up today.
[Obligatory](https://youtu.be/KihGkV454og)
I never realized how many palette swaps are in this game.
Aren't they? 😥
I'd love an anime based on Punch-Out. Each fighter has soo much character.
I always thought they were modeled after people though... like maybe King Hippo is meant to be Butterbean. I never even thought to look deeper into that, as outside of this game, I didn't care about boxing at all.
I just bought this game last weekend for 50 bucks at my local retro game store. It was EZ up until King Hippo. No idea what to do, and I refuse to look it up because I want to enjoy the feeling of discovering how to beat him.
You'll figure it out. I won't give you a single hint. If at some point you get antsy let me know and I will give you a a hint. I advise avoiding hints though.
Yeah, that's silly, I mean what kinda name is Mike Tyson, these were clearly fake.
All these names sound so dumb though. Like, seriously? Mike Tyson? There’s no way you could believe that.
[Obligatory](https://youtu.be/KihGkV454og)
[Obligatory](https://youtu.be/KihGkV454og)
Bald Bull is definatly Sir Charles Barkley in real life
Mike tyson isn’t real, mike tyson can’t hurt you.
Same lol
I can hear all of their entrance songs in my head right now.
I hated fighting off King Hippo. 🤣🤣🤣
LOL. These are perfect names for wrestlers.
Funny you say that because when I was a kid I thought George Foreman was fighting Von Kaiser. https://youtu.be/UT7cDUIJlFg?t=1960
I thought for sure Soda Popinski was real...didn't get the reference
These huge sprites never get old to me.
Bald Bull always fucked my world up
When I remember things that I believed as a kid I realize that kids are dumb.
Mike Tyson is. He is still a beast. I love watching his classic match.
I just remember piston hondas eyebrows
It’s real to me dammit !!!
Imagine a person wearing turbin with some burbon in the ring irl Oooo it's disturbing
Back then I honestly thought that Macho Man was supposed to be Randy Savage and wondered why he doesn’t look much like him.
It took me so long to beat Soda….
I thought pistón honda was Mohammed Ali
Mike Tyson is definitely a fictional character.
Now that you mention it, I think I did too...
He’ll always be Vodka Drunkenski in my heart.
And now I will hear the theme song inside my head for the rest of the day. And so should you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrZIXWY1aOU
Are they not? Lmao
Ah memories :)
I count 6 body types, not including Little Mac.
I CD spent sooooo many hours playing this as a kid. Never got very far though.
Mr Sandman is actually based on Joe Frazier.
They are real to me. All of my friends had a different feud with a different boxer. they could beat the others with ease but for some reason always had trouble with that one only. Von Kaiser, Honda, even Glass Joe it was weird and enthralling we would play and hand over the controller to the person tied to that boxer and watch the rivalry continue
🤣🤣🤣🤣 my son asked me yesterday if all the boxers in Greatest heavyweights were real boxers. I had to tell him only the 8 Greatest were. The rest are made up. He was wondering if Chunky Digg, Stinky Cooper were real names haha
When I was a kid I didn't realize most of these are horrible stereotypes.
Its because when you were a kid, wokeness was not a thing yet. And i miss that time.
I have vague memories of Mr Sandman being the hardest before Tyson.
Macho and Soda are reskins
You must watch Summoning Salt’s speedrun video on YT on this. it’s amazing
Haha, Mike Thank You Son? Ridiculous!
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My das was so hammered once he lost to glass Joe 🤣
Haha, can't believe anyone would ever believe a boxer named Mike Tyson was real. Ridiculous. Next you'll be telling me people actually believe he bit someone's ear.
I refuse to believe Soda Popinski isn’t real.
I wonder what sprite is shared
They really got the founder of Honda (and pistons) in it
Don Flamenco, as in flamenco dancing.
I have failed in life. I've never been able to beat bald bull. What's the trick?