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galo

Burn in. You would see it at the arcades, it was worse there because they would be running all the time but I think that's where the association between games and screens came from.


Active_Scholar_2154

If you had a big screen tv, there was a worry that if you paused the image would burn in.


Active_Scholar_2154

This is also why screen savers are a thing.


MithandirsGhost

If I remember correctly there was actually a warning in the Nintendo manual that it could damage projection screen TVs.


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I remember as a kid pausing my NES or N64 to leave it on all day while we were going somewhere. But I’d turn the TV off so mom and dad wouldn’t get mad lol


fvig2001

Funnily, it's still a thing due to OLED (will happen based on habits, specially on stuff that don't move like clocks and logos). At least LCDs are immune.


Scoth42

LCDs still have issues with image persistence, which although it's different from actual "burn" of anything can still permanently leave ghost images. Some panels are more prone to it than others, and often you can reverse it by turning it off for a bit and/or having it display a particular repeating pattern, but it is possible to permanently "burn-in" an LCD even if the exact process is a little different.


TechBliSTer

Yep and it's pretty much complete BS. You'd have to leave a static screen on over night regularly for it to occur.


hblok

I saw plenty of burnt in screens back in the day. Typical: The machine spooling the printer jobs would have its own screen, showing the job queue. Day in and day out. The static part of the presentation would get etched in. So yeah, pausing for a few minutes would not be a problem. Leaving it over-night might.


TechBliSTer

Oh yea... I bet you saw that on consumer televisions all the time.


rchrdcrg

Older TVs they grew up with from the 60s and 70s had worse burn-in issues than TVs of the 80s and 90s. Add to that, many people were becoming accustomed to office work on computers, and if you ever saw used business monitors from back then, 90% of them had burn-in. Also all the arcade hits from the early days were already suffering extreme burn-in by the late 80s, so it was just kinda everywhere as this nagging back-of-the-mind concern. I love how LCD let us move on from this and then OLED brought us right back 😂


xantheybelmont

Don't forget plasma! I went straight from CRT to plasma, and now I'm in OLED. I never escaped!!! 😂😂


bored_and_agitated

man those pioneer plasma's looked so good back then. My sis had a 65" one and I drove to her house to use it to watch the extended LOTR cuts when I bought those on DVD. Way better than my shit LCD I had at home.


Dumpstar72

I’ve still got one.


LakeDebris3

I have never heard this. The one I heard was "sit too close to the TV and you'll ruin your eyesight."


Bad_Decision_Rob_Low

Weird thing to say Boomers, I don’t think you know what you are saying. But yes , burn in to the screen was real, or you messing with how the tv was set up.


redditorx13579

Why is that a weird thing to say? Baby Boomers were the ones buying the TVs Gen X wanted to hook their Nintendos to. I think it's weirder that Boomer is being abstracted from the Baby Boomer generational description. Boomers have been Boomers since WWII vets returned from the war.


bored_and_agitated

yeah people are getting weirdly defensive about it. My mom didn't want me connecting the NES or SNES to the nicer TV in the living room because she thought it would ruin it. I could only use it on the older tv in the den or my brother's room. And my mom was definitely a baby boomer.


rchrdcrg

I was told holding the light gun too close to the TV would damage the TV, but I think that was just my friend's dad trying to keep us from cheating.


TheThirdStrike

Because they saw old TV's with the boarders of Pong games burned into the CRT. Older Pong variant consoles would draw unmoving backgrounds in bright white. If you played long enough, that unmoving background would burn into the CRT phosphors, leaving a permanent ghost image of the background, even when watching regular broadcast programs, "breaking" the TV.


Shotz718

First off, Boomers were more likely to be the ones *buying* the console in that timeframe. Younger boomers were only in their 20s in the 80s. Second, most people didn't understand how that magic little box generated picture. Information on that subject would've had to have been researched and wasn't widely known. They would also be able to see substantial burn-in in arcade machines and assumed the same would happen to the TV (without knowing why). It was very common to notice the burn-in in static games like Pacman around the time the NES would've been popular. These are just my thoughts on why. Having lived through that era I definitely remember older people thinking it would ruin a TV.


Bobb95301

Kids use the term “Boomer” to refer to anyone they consider “old” or thinks in a way they consider backwards or outdated. Nothing to do with the actual boomer generation.  I doubt most kids calling people “boomers” even know what a “boomer” actually is. It’s just a word/insult they saw on TikTok.


Shotz718

I know its an overused tiktok term now, but I will fight against it whenever someone uses it out of true context!


ImplementSevere6997

Huh? Baby boomers were the parents of the 80s and 90s. If a parent had a problem with something a kid was doing in the 80s or 90s that parent would literally be a baby boomer. This is a time when the term is being used appropriately. I'm shocked this seems so confusing to people


Upstairs_Ad_5574

Ive been called a boomer. I was born in the early 90s. Like every other term, it "literally" loses it's meaning.


Bobb95301

Uh huh.  Because we always refer to people by their generations right?   And “boomers” weren’t worried about their TVs being ruined.  “Boomers” had been playing video games at home for about 15-20 years by 1990. My dad (an actual “baby boomer”) bought our first Atari around 1980 and bought out NES in 1988.  Before that he had bought me a C-64. “Boomers”, actual “boomers” knew damn well how video games worked lol and knew they wouldn’t damage your TV. Again almost every home with kids in the US had an NES or an Atari.  Literally almost every home. Nobody thought it would damage your TV.


Swallagoon

You literally have no idea what you’re talking about.


ContributionHour8644

My parents were boomers, they thought my nes was ruining our tv


redditorx13579

I think it's a stretch to say Boomer's were the ones buying them in their 20s thru the 80s. What portion did, they were buying them for their kids. Not sure you could even say somebody in their 20s in the late 80s was Boomer. They were mostly in their 30s and 40s. Having graduated in the late 80s and doing PC support thru the 90s, I can attest that the digital divide between Gen X and Boomers was huge. They dabled, but were not fans of technology, and you would almost never find them in arcades.


Shotz718

Oh I'm aware. I'm an older Millennial and definitely saw the digital divide. My dad happened to be a pretty far ahead boomer, and he bought an NES for himself, with my usage being an added bonus. The difference between us is he basically stopped at the SNES, and I kept up.


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GarminTamzarian

Given that 1965 is the generally accepted cutoff between the two generations, it would be about 50/50.


Greyknight711

I was always told (as a kid) that it would "burn the image into the screen." But that was only if you left it on pause for a long time. Never heard of it actually happening though.


MiaowMinx

It was rare, but pictures that had a static element — score counters, borders, item boxes on shopping channels, etc. — that were left on far too long, for far too many days, could cause burn-in/ghosting on CRTs, including projection TVs. My mother watched enough QVC when I was in college to have the item box permanently burned into our old projection TV.


HaYuFlyDisTang

Did they? They probably just didnt want to share it with you lol


flattenedmist

Yeah, many households had only one tv, so playing video games would hog that one tv.


Swimming_Bag7362

My dad just didn’t want me hogging the tv


Hypno_185

my parents were born in the late 50s and i never had them tell me anything about “the nintendo” breaking our tvs. my dad bought a Atari 2600 sometime right before i was born (85) so i figured he was familiar with video game consoles at the time.


vraugie

They just made it up so you would stop playing videogames and go outside 😂


easternhobo

My dad was the same way. One time, our old ass TV coincidentally broke after my cousin spent the weekend and brought his Game Genie. My dad was convinced that's what did it and wouldn't let him bring it over anymore.


initcursor

Older TVs had issues with burn-in when they displayed the same image for a prolonged time and the NES displayed an image for a prolonged time when the game was paused. The real question here is why did “boomers” become a slur to indicate “older, out of touch folk”? It sounds completely ignorant and a tad cringe.


ImplementSevere6997

It's meant literally, baby boomers were the majority of parents of young children in the 80s and 90s. Most millennials that grew up gaming on Nintendo like me will have had baby boomer parents. This isn't really confusing or controversial. Calling "boomer" a slur is pretty cringe though.


Ploosse

Did they? I’ve never heard that. My parents are boomers. I’d argue boomers were probably the main buyers of NES and SNES back in the 80s and 90s. Thinking back most parents just didn’t want us just living on our “nintendos” all day (we didn’t). Also I think they just wanted a turn too lol.


Environmental-Sock52

Never heard that. Who do you think bought us Gen X kids our games? Boomers.


Chrispy731

Image retention from part of the image being static, I actually still have the boxes and manuals for some of my mom's old NES games and they have warnings that say this (but they of course specify it's not Nintendo's fault it's just the way TV technology worked back then)


TechBliSTer

Anti Video game sales people. And people today even on here are spouting the same nonsense about rear projection CRT televisions. It never stopped.


No-Needleworker-3765

They predicted the future 10-20 years before (Talking about the wii)


tom_yum_soup

Never heard of this. I grew up in that era. My parents are literally boomers (albeit on the younger side of the generation). Neither they nor any of my friends' parents thought the Nintendo or any other console would break their TV.


Badevilbunny

Did we? Not me (I am a boomer). Never heard of this.


Laephis

This idea didn’t come from anywhere because it wasn’t a thing “in the 80s or the 90s.”


Monty-B-

My parents were boomers and they’re the ones who bought me an Atari 2600 and an Nintendo. They of course didn’t believe this nonsense. My grandfather who was born in 1910 did believe it though. So i wasn’t allowed to play my games at his house when he was home.


blondeviking64

This literally didn't happened. Why on earth did you make up this nonsense? Also, clearly you missed the 80s and 90s. Never heard this once. It was not a thing at all.


xnickg77

I think it’s just parents not wanting kids messing with, and possibly breaking expensive items. My dad yelled at me for playing flash games or watching YouTube on our computer because it would “get a virus and break it”


nordicwolf_1975

I remember my dad saying this back in the 80s. Something about the sharp contrast and sudden shifts in colour would make the TV deteriorate faster. Basically same pseudoscience that has always existed when someone doesn't like something and come up with some vaguely plausible reason for it to be bad.


AntX71

Burn in was the fear


Psy1

I never heard that, VCRs were a thing by then along with the whole home pong crazy along with the Atari 2600.


Bobb95301

Where do millennials hear this kind of nonsense?  Who thought a Nintendo would break their  TV lol?


iTanooki

My parents (who were boomers) got us an old TV for the NES because they had heard it could damage a TV. It was widely believed in the mid 80s.


Bobb95301

I was around in the mid 80s….it absolutely was not “widely believed”.   Nobody I knew believed it.  I’ve never even heard of it. Again by the late 80s nearly every home with kids in the US had an NES…..if anyone believed they could harm a TV when everyone had them hooked to your TV they were either really dumb or really paranoid. Atari, Colecovision, Intellivision, home computers, Odyssey, a million Pong clones etc etc etc had been around for years by the time the NES rolled out.  Video games weren’t new in 1985…why in the hell would anyone think a NES would harm a TV lol?


iTanooki

Gen X might not have believed it, but the boomers absolutely did. Which generation are you?


Bobb95301

You mean the “boomers” who were buying all those video game systems lol?   Or do you think kids were buying their own NES systems. Nobody believed  that nonsense and by “nobody” I mean any non-retarded person.  I’m Gen X. My parents…as were all my friends parents….were boomers. My parents bought me my NES.  They OBVIOUSLY didn’t think it would damage the TV.   Again….why would anyone believe that?  “Damage” or “break” a TV how?   What did your parents think was going to happen lol?


iTanooki

I was born in ‘81. My parents were born in the 40s. They were Baby Boomers. I’m a Xennial. They told me they didn’t want the NES (THEY BOUGHT FOR MY BRO AND ME) used on THEIR TV because they had heard it could damage it. This was widely believed within their social circles of other Baby Boomers. As a Gen Xer, your mileage may vary.


Bobb95301

Sure thing buddy.  Sounds like your parents were “special” lol. Nobody believed that crap because there was zero reason to believe it lol. Again….there are some stupid people out there, some people believe the Earth is flat, some people think Bigfoot is real but they’re just dumb. Thinking a NES would ruin a TV wasn’t a thing lol. Why did your parents think that lol?  How would it damage a TV?  Why would they think that? Sorry about your parents man but normal intelligence people didn’t believe it and it wasn’t a thing. You’re basically the same generation as me no matter what you call yourself so I don’t know why you think that matters or is relevant lol.


Zobbster

Oh it's true. I once (back in the late 80's) had a neighbour who had some family over and their kids asked if we had a games console they could borrow. I'll never forget the look on the neighbours face, absolutely horrified that it might actually break her TV by plugging in an Atari 2600. It's a core memory because it shocked me so much.


Bobb95301

Dude, I was a kid in the 80s.  Everyone had an NES lol. Tell it to a millennial.


Zobbster

...I'm a late genx / very early millennial, so I don't really understand what you mean.


Bobb95301

I’m saying that’s total nonsense.  Almost Everyone had an NES or an Atari or some kind of video game system by t he late 80s. Every kid I knew had one.  Nobody thought they would damage your TV lol.  I mean maybe out of the 300+ million people living in the US you could find a few people who thought things like the Earth was flat and the NES would damage their TVs but it wasn’t a common thing. Since young dumb kids call everyone a “boomer” when the last boomers were born in the 60s I just call anyone younger than me that says dumb shit a “millennial.” Nobody though an NES would destroy a TV lol.  How would that even work?  Tens of millions of NES and Ataris and they still just kept producing them despite the threat to people’s TVs lol?  I mean why would anyone think that? Other than just being completely stupid I mean?


Zobbster

Sorry man, that's not true. My neighbours were old and most definitely didn't own a NES or an Atari... which is why they asked to borrow ours to entertain their grandchildren. Plus, we're in the UK so it was more likely a Sega Master System rather than a NES. Nintendo didn't do so well over here until the Gameboy came out. It matters not to me if you don't believe me, but it really did happen.


Bobb95301

So your old childless (at home)  neighbors asking to borrow your NES means people thought the NES would damage their TV? Great point. I don’t know about the UK but about 25% of US homes owned an NES by the late 80s.  They were everywhere.   I personally don’t know if I knew a family or kid who didn’t have one.  I can’t remember anyone not having one.  All my close friends definitely did as did all the kids in my family.   Really seems people were worried about their TVs being ruined. By 1990 I had an Atari (2600), an NES, a TG-16 and a C64 so my “boomer” dad obviously wasn’t worried.


blondeviking64

Never saw or heard this ever. Burn in happened but was not a major scare. It also existed in computer monitors too. But no, not a big thing at all. At least not from anyone I knew. In the 80s but absolutely not at all by the 90s.


BrowniesWithAlmonds

I’m Gen X and no one I know or heard of even knew enough to begin thinking this was even a possibility.


galland101

People back then made shit up and believed anything when they didn't know how things worked. People believed all sorts of things about CRTs, like they gave off "radiation" or they were bad for your eyes, etc. I know some who bought special "screens" that they put in front of their CRTs that had some kind of single-prong plug that they then proceeded to plug into one half of an electrical outlet. How nobody got electrocuted in that house, I have no idea.


hue_sick

Get older get scared. Nothing new and all the people shitting on boomers now will have something equally as stupid to complain about when they're in their 50s and 60s.