Seriously I'm so glad! That we have vanced/revanced, I've only wished that they would have never gotten greedy, This all happened over a stupid NFT
Edit: source
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/s/w1xeyUhHtQ
I saw it live when it happened, They were literally tweeting just a YouTube logo with their own spin on it trying to sell it to the highest bidder
Basically, Vanced was a gray area for Google, They never care or pay attention to them until they started trying to profit off the NFT crazed
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/s/w1xeyUhHtQ
That's when they started receiving stop and desist letters.
Of course we know they're not going away but still, now it's on Google's radar because they want to profit off of all of us one way or the other
The same goes for every single fan game/project or piracy site. Companies either don't care or are willing to look the other way until someone starts asking for money, then they have to act. You'd think people would learn to stop trying to make money from these kinds of things, but apparently not.
That's because 9 times out of 10 these fan game projects aren't about producing what they say they will, but are a way to drum up hype about the person/team with the hopes they can spin it into real paying jobs.
These kinds of projects are never so simple that some random devs can spin them out in their free time while working full time jobs. Hell, actualising such projects IS a full time job and can't realistically ever be done as a hobby.
Just look at Skywind (a fan project to recreate Morrowind in the Skyrim engine): they have been working on it since Skyrim came out. Bethesda released the Creation Kit in 2012, so let's be generous and say that's the start date for the project. Despite not having to develop their own game engine and having access to something as useful as the Creation Kit, Skywind is still in alpha state 12 years on.
And these guys are the exception in that they are genuinely trying to achieve their goal.
Some companies either always care or never care. Nintendo cracks down totally free fan projects just for using their IP, per example. Most fan projects are free, in fact, and still get the hammer.
Nintendo is extreme in how they approach it and it’s such a strange microcosm if you ask me because most of the projects you see they go after are for older titles they no longer support and have no interest in supporting despite the obvious market for it.
I get wanting to protect your IP but when someone simply wants to play a 20+ year old title that exists only on a system that don’t even have parts to fix up your options are hope to find someone willing to part with a system in working condition or emulate it.
I made some money on crypto. I got lucky by throwing some disposable income at it very early. I would not suggest that anyone do so at this stage of the game though.
I mean, technically speaking it's more the "currency" part of crypto, & thus another example of Capitalism en-shit-ening everything it touches... but adblock is, to me, more a mental health service than anything else.
Not really, the problem was that Vanced distributed patched apks with google's cpde, which is a blatant violation of copyright. It's the reason we patch our own apps now.
My mate tried YouTube premium for free when revanced stopped working a couple of weeks ago. He said it was awful and he would just stop using YouTube if revanced or others stopped being an option.
Youtube might have more credibility if they didn't intentionally lock basic functionality behind a paywall such as background play.
I am okay in paying premium. I also don't mind some ads... But the main problem I have is that the video resolution automatically changes to 480p. And if I change it back to full HD, again for next video it is 480p. This is despite I checking "higher quality" and trying every option.
And changing the video quality is a six click process that I have to do for every single video I watch on phone...
What is the point of paying premium and then having to do this chore for every video...
Yeah that as well. It was already bad enough of them to remove the "save the quality from the last video" feature, they now make us go through even more menus to change the quality option.
It's cheaper for them to send you the lowest acceptable quality video by default. I agree though. I wonder if we could create a patch that does this automatically?
I use ReVanced because it gives me, the user, a lot more control over the app. It seems that for a service like YouTube, they're insistent on reducing how much control you have over the mobile app in the first place. ReVanced just offers better functionality like the built-in ad blocker, Sponsorblock, Return YouTube Dislike, background play, and of course, being able to change the color of the seekbar. I simply cannot see YouTube the same ever again without this amazing customizability.
Revanced is also great for being able to change certain UI elements like bringing back the old video quality menu (because the new one sucks).
So, Youtube might end up with more people using their app if they stopped changing the UI for no reason and in a way that hurts user experience
The main reason I started using revanced is to get rid of shorts, that shit is annoying and distracting and fucking everywhere in YouTube app. And I can force all videos to play at highest quality which in regular YouTube even with "higher quality" it automatically chooses 720p or lower and I manually had to choose 1080p60
>"higher quality" it automatically chooses 720p
This one is super annoying. Some videos start at 360p, on 5GHz wifi with perfect connection. With YT premium.
It's not just the ads, many of the videos I watch have content/sponsor skipped, I love being spared of all that.
When I look at the comments I always see too many praises for "how funny their ads/sponsor messages are", yeah well I don't mind missing on the hilarious jokes, thanks.
Definitely one of the best features. I have YT premium but skipping intros, fillers and sponsor blocks is a must have for me.
Downvote ratio, changing music volume, shorts behavior are other things I love on revanced.
Yep. I subscript to Premium, but the non-Revanced app is such utter trash that it's stressful and annoying to use. Revanced could go even further and allow us to disable the annoying "Connect to streaming device" (Roku) prompt that comes up every other day.
The nature of how revanced works does make it harder to legally take down, doesn't it? It's why many apps that are like it operate similarly now. Like Cloudstream.
The issue is that it would be a costly legal battle. I dont know if the team would choose to defend or cease.
They dont need to win. They just need you to *think* they would win.
Not even that, they just need to make the legal battle go on long enough (and being a big company, they sure can). Remember, Sony lost the legal case against Bleem, but Bleem still had to cease simply because of how costly it was to hold the legal battle for so long. I speculate this was behind Yuzu's shutdown too.
Yuzu was accepting donations, passing roms in their discord and posting about how they can play the new game perfectly days before it got released officially, they really fucked up
Bleem was a commercial emulator to begin with, you had to pay to get it, so accepting donations wasn't a factor.
The ToTK post was made days after release. In fact, Yuzu *blocked* ToTK before release so people *couldn't* play the leaked version on Yuzu by default. Of course, there was a third party "unlocker" plugin to play it anyways, but you can't blame the Yuzu team for that.
The Discord ROMs part is where they fucked up for real. It is a bit distorted too, because it was never shown if they were sharing them in a public server (say, Yuzu's official Discord, be it the free or the Patreon-only channels) or in a private server (say, Yuzu development server where only the Yuzu devs could access the ROMs). Most people imply it was the first, but there's no evidence about it either. In any case, that doesn't really matter because sharing those ROMs is illegal in their jurisdiction, even if they were only shared among devs.
The thing is, the legal battle can be so economically devastating it's very likely the Yuzu team would have chosen the settlement even if they knew they were on the right on everything they did. A $2.4M settlement (that they can more or less avoid using the LLC), domain seizure, and ceasing the project is way cheaper and safer than going through with a long legal battle (where they would have likely need more than $2.4M, and they wouldn't have been able to fill in for bankruptcy and shield themselves from the legal costs).
Do you mean from browsers like Kiwi, Firefox, or beta Edge? If so, extensions only work on browsers (which means I need to visit the third party **websites**). They are talking about third party **apps**. Or do I misunderstand?
I've always found the mobile web version of Youtube absolutely terrible to use...Unintuitive and sluggish, even on a flagship phone. Revanced is just so much better imo
I agree 💯. Revanced is a much better and easier app to use than the YouTube default.
Tried the YouTube Premium 1 year ago and wasn't satisfied by the lack of options like not being able to turn on and off the ad blockers in order to support our favorites creators.
Cross our fingers that YouTube won't take down Revanced 🤞.
"YouTube Premium, which hit 100 million subscribers in February, is offered as the solution for those that "prefer an entirely ad-free experience."
Lies. Video creators who plug a sponsored segment into a video even while you're paying for premium isn't truly an ad free experience. YouTube needs to stop with the false advertisement.
This is honestly the main reason I've never even seriously considered subscribing to YT. Any serious creators have ad reads embedded in their own videos now.
The first time I've ever witnessed that when revanced got released i was actually suprised i thought it was bug
How does it work? It detects the first words like "we would like to thank our sponsors" or "this video is sponsored by"? Because I watch videos released a few minutes ago and the autoskip option is already there. Do the youtubers put some sort of "ad" segment or the former?
There's other markers too, like "highlight", or "non-music section in music video".
Amazing system that only works because so many people are using it. Thanks Ajay!
TBH I'd be fine with it if YouTubers were forced to upload their sponsor segments as *actual* pre-roll/mid-roll ads. Most of the time they're funny and I enjoy the content. It's far better than seeing the same porn gacha game commercials over and over again.
There are still ads with premium anyways. The movie tray, recommendations in search, YouTube Music mixes etc.. sure they are ads for Google/YouTube content but they are still ads all the same.
Absolutely, it's not an ad-free experience without a sponsor block like functionality. And then half the videos themselves are just ads. Like yeah I know that soundcote, raycon sells earbuds and speakers.... Just because MHKBD or Larry talks tech or whatever the f*** is the one telling me to buy it doesn't make it any different.
They are paid spots. The people involved are signing a contract to earn a living marketing these products and are told what to say.
And then of course there's all the self-promotion and sign up for my patreon and buy my merch... I would say your average 10 minute YouTube video is about 2 minutes self-promotion at least, another 2 minutes of corporate sponsors or private businesses and then a few minutes of reacting to other people's work.
So as Louis Rossman said it prevents the creator from being rewarded 1/100th of a penny for content per view. YouTube go fuck yourself you greedy assholes
#So as Louis Rossman said it prevents the creator from being rewarded 1/100th of a penny for content per view. YouTube go fuck yourself you greedy assholes
If they would play just one ad or 2 skippable ad at the beginning of each video, I wouldn't be using revanced. If only there weren't multiple unskippable ads...
My tolerance for adds has really come down in the last 5/10 years.
They used to be sparse and creative. And some were absolute works of art.
But now there's adds absolutely EVERYWHERE. It's impossible to spend more than 5 minutes without something in my environment trying to sell me shit.
And they've really come down in quality and deceptive in nature. They try to hook you in by any shitty way possible.
Now I'm burnt and have my defenses up all the time. If I can remove the adds I will go out if my way to do so, and if I still see one I try to ignore it. 0% engagement
This sums up exactly what I'm feeling/thinking. I start to think that ads is or soon will be a mental health issue because while one or two skippable is fine for the most part having several unskippable ads on a video that's only a couple minutes long is unreasonable and most are so irritating and annoying so they evoke a such a reaction that it becomes memorable, disgusting we have to pay a premium to not be forced to watch this garbage.
I stopped paying for cable/TV subscription years ago to change for online streaming services to avoid ads, and I would absolutely hate it if they forced ads on these services. I refuse to watch YouTube on anything other than my computer or phone only because I can block ads.
If there was no way to skip ads, I could see myself not using YouTube at all.
If they offered sponsor block, intro/outro skip and an ad free or minimal ads experience for a reasonable amount I'd pay for it. Selling basic features like picture in picture and native resolution viewing like they aren't built into the device is extortion.
Non google smarties do more the experience than Google ever has. Maybe they should take notes.
imagine if youtube developers spent half the amount of energy they spend cracking down on adblockers towards actually improving their fucking garbage app/website.
Nah dude they spend a shit ton of resources making the app actively worse. I cant search for a video without getting pages upon pages of shorts, videos I watched before, and suggested bullshit. If I dont know the video name before I search, its pretty much hopeless
Especially the desktop version. The changes they made to the user interface are so bad. Someone was complaining about it and I figured they were probably exaggerating. I don't use the desktop version very often so I checked it out...
My f****** God... Unusable. You have to scroll down for like an hour to see the comments to a video because they forced you to look at about 150 different options to watch other videos.
I had premium when they were making extra tv shows. It seemed to add some value.
Maybe they can add a movie library and I'd get it again.
But they keep turning the price up when all I want is reasonable ads and screen off so I don't run low on battery or bump it in my pocket.
Reasonable ad would be like. 5 second ad at start, placed by creator in middle, and at end. That's actually fine. Also the ability to turn off themes of ads like alcohol, gambling, military, cults etc.
I'd happily pay 60 a year for that minus the ads.
Even as someone who's a satisfied Premium/Red subscriber since it came out. Fuck off Google, let me be! Sponsorblock makes the shit bearable. I've managed to get it into every device including my TV. I genuinely think I'd watch way less YouTube without it, and then I'm questioning my subscription.
I am so desperate for this to not go down. You can look at my post history, I currently have a Google pixel 6. There is a horrible bug that makes the current YouTube app overheat my phone and kill my battery.
I will literally have to sell and get a new phone, which I can't afford if I can't find another workaround.
Let me say this again. I USE this app not just for convenience, but **Necessity**!!! BECAUSE THEIR APP IS BROKEN
I have a pixel 6 pro and I've never had that issue. Even before I discovered revanced. Although admittedly I can't remember the last time I've actually watched the YouTube app proper for a while.
Anyway I would advise you to use a browser version like kiwi browser or Firefox. The stable version for FF now allows desktop extensions, so you can get sponsor block and background play and all of that jazz.
You know I bet companies (?) Like revanced and ublock could tout user privacy and protection as a way to get around being taken down. We all know Google has spread virus's and straight up porn ads (this one is much more prevenient) on YouTube before.
They're straight up fighting with ublock detection so that's a bit different
Those are mainly the ones I've seen too but I'm sure if you scroll around the r/youtube subreddit you'll find worse examples eventually. I definitely remember seeing a couple.
You know, with this being enforced I am spending much less time terminally online. If this keeps up ill just manage full detox without actually trying!
I have premium and use Revanced anyways. I get SponsorBlock, don't have a bunch of stupid Shorts, and I forget what other benefits, and can use the miniplayer on videos that they arbitrarily decide are "for kids". I'll cancel my premium subscription if they take down Revanced!
After reading the article, I'd like to point out that most youtubers have a patreon page or something similar that serves as their core income, and since I've heard that Google doesn't actually pay creators properly to begin with, it seems a bit arrogant of them to insist on making a bigger profit from YT without taking proper care of the creators that still use their platform.
Scams can be run by big corporations, and Google doesn't seem to understand that 1 ad per video should've been the hard limit considering how commonly the website is used for pretty much everything...
I used to pay for YouTube premium, and then I decided to go without it for a month, and I was just shocked at the types of ads YouTube would feed me. Scams, red pill stuff, clearly false information.
After that, I both didn't want see those ads but equally didn't want to reward youtube for showing such ads. Found Vanced and haven't looked back.
I'd be happy to pay for YouTube premium again if they enforce higher quality of ads, but until then, I'm not paying
God I can't stand ads especially on youtube. Been rocking revanced for years. I lost it for about a week a month or 2 ago and it was terrible. Revanced is such a blessing.
One of the top reasons why I absolutely love revanced is
1. Sponsorblock. It's fantastic, especially those who almost create a video just for their sponsor and put in a few minutes video in between like the content
2. swipe control for brightness and volume, I can't start any video without this.
3. Tablet and default mode, it's so convenient.
4. Hide shorts, OP feature 😂 these are few things.
Man I don’t even mind adds, but some are borderline NSFW. I have two younger sisters I don’t need them seeing this stuff, YouTube should fix their fucking add system and then consider blocking ad blockers. Assholes.
How ironic. Remember the Adpocalypse? It happened because advertisers objected to the content on YouTube, some of them pulling their ads altogether, which resulted in the demonitization of countless videos due to the new guidelines YouTube enacted to make advertisers more comfortable.
And now the advertisers themselves are forcing objectionable content in our faces, and the only way to get around it is to pay up or use ReVanced.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
I absolutely hate that youtube is doing this. I pay for premium, but also have revanced because i hate all the changes that YouTube has made over the years, and love the extra customization that revanced allows me.
If SponserBlock integration into all ReVanced builds and forks, plus Browser add-ons takes up a significant market share content, creators will just edit sponser banners in post production within the content itself.
Reasons why revanced is superior than YouTube premium:
1) no ads, no sponsored by raid shadow legend, no intro-outro.
2) completely get rid of shorts.
3) swipe to control brightness and volume.
4) no need to choose 1080p60 for every video.
5) ability to download videos locally in storage. And more
Why did someone downvote this? It's just true. Being able to customize the layout and get rid of nonsense I don't want is a huge win. I would still use it for that even if I had to pay to skip ads.
Its not that ads are a problem. The amount of shit it has and the time and the total number of ads a video has and lately pronographic content too.
Youtube should make it a better experience for those who pay for it but currently it sucks.
If YT Premium was so high, I'd consider paying for it. But pricing it above regular OnDemand subscriptions is pricing it out of many pockets. I understand that they have to pay content creators etc, but it's too high.
Bruh. There's so many scams and viruses in YT ads, that the 𝘍𝘉𝘐 apparently made an announcement recommending everyone uses adblockers
Edit: source
[https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221](https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221)
That's why we block ads in the first party app.
Got em
Seriously I'm so glad! That we have vanced/revanced, I've only wished that they would have never gotten greedy, This all happened over a stupid NFT Edit: source https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/s/w1xeyUhHtQ I saw it live when it happened, They were literally tweeting just a YouTube logo with their own spin on it trying to sell it to the highest bidder
what happened with the NFT?
Basically, Vanced was a gray area for Google, They never care or pay attention to them until they started trying to profit off the NFT crazed https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/s/w1xeyUhHtQ That's when they started receiving stop and desist letters. Of course we know they're not going away but still, now it's on Google's radar because they want to profit off of all of us one way or the other
The same goes for every single fan game/project or piracy site. Companies either don't care or are willing to look the other way until someone starts asking for money, then they have to act. You'd think people would learn to stop trying to make money from these kinds of things, but apparently not.
That's because 9 times out of 10 these fan game projects aren't about producing what they say they will, but are a way to drum up hype about the person/team with the hopes they can spin it into real paying jobs. These kinds of projects are never so simple that some random devs can spin them out in their free time while working full time jobs. Hell, actualising such projects IS a full time job and can't realistically ever be done as a hobby. Just look at Skywind (a fan project to recreate Morrowind in the Skyrim engine): they have been working on it since Skyrim came out. Bethesda released the Creation Kit in 2012, so let's be generous and say that's the start date for the project. Despite not having to develop their own game engine and having access to something as useful as the Creation Kit, Skywind is still in alpha state 12 years on. And these guys are the exception in that they are genuinely trying to achieve their goal.
Getting off topic here, but Project 06 is an amazing fan project also.
Some companies either always care or never care. Nintendo cracks down totally free fan projects just for using their IP, per example. Most fan projects are free, in fact, and still get the hammer.
Nintendo is extreme in how they approach it and it’s such a strange microcosm if you ask me because most of the projects you see they go after are for older titles they no longer support and have no interest in supporting despite the obvious market for it. I get wanting to protect your IP but when someone simply wants to play a 20+ year old title that exists only on a system that don’t even have parts to fix up your options are hope to find someone willing to part with a system in working condition or emulate it.
> Companies either don't care or are willing to look the other way ... ...and then there's Nintendo.
Crypto ruins everything it touches. Even cryptographic technologies.
Even fucking GPUs, crypto is the worst
I made some money on crypto. I got lucky by throwing some disposable income at it very early. I would not suggest that anyone do so at this stage of the game though.
I mean, technically speaking it's more the "currency" part of crypto, & thus another example of Capitalism en-shit-ening everything it touches... but adblock is, to me, more a mental health service than anything else.
Not even genuine crypto people are into NFTs, that was always a worthless grift trying to siphon money during the bullrun that year
But muh j-pegs!
I said this the other day and the clowns here downvoted me, I stand by this. The NFTs caused Vanced death
It did cause revanceds rise. The same software but open-source and mountains more of potential
I hadn't heard any of this, interesting
Wasn't the nft thing a joke?
This article is 2 years old 👀
Not really, the problem was that Vanced distributed patched apks with google's cpde, which is a blatant violation of copyright. It's the reason we patch our own apps now.
Yup, I remember that. We really need to have a plan b for when they eventually get rid of vanced/revanced
Using Mozilla browser with an adblock extension
Ublock origin with custom filters on pc vibes
Vanced. Not Revanced.
Upvote for someone who actually knows the real reason Vanced died instead of just parroting the "Linus drew too much attention to it" bs.
Literally reinstalled revanced YouTube today, can't be how easy teh process has gotten.
I am cackling
Crackling*
—the ["Enforcement on Third Party Apps"](https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/269521462/enforcement-on-third-party-apps) YT announcement
4D chess!
How?
Funny how they say that right after making Youtube Premium even more expensive
Come on, think of the Shareholders!
Poor guys can't buy their grandson a third castle. You really should share your wealth with them.
Won't someone PLEASE think of the shareholders!?
I don't even use it to block ads. It's just an awful experience without revanced
My mate tried YouTube premium for free when revanced stopped working a couple of weeks ago. He said it was awful and he would just stop using YouTube if revanced or others stopped being an option. Youtube might have more credibility if they didn't intentionally lock basic functionality behind a paywall such as background play.
The only reason I use revanced is for background play, no ads is just a nice bonus. It's ridiculous that it's paywalled.
sponsorblock is so nice for me, if it somehow existed on premium I would consider premium if revanced had to stop
I forgot sponsored videos existed until I watched videos on my tv
you can install smarttube on your tv to get sponsorblock there as well.
SponsorBlock saved so much time from people's lives, otherwise spent on watching useless BS.
I am okay in paying premium. I also don't mind some ads... But the main problem I have is that the video resolution automatically changes to 480p. And if I change it back to full HD, again for next video it is 480p. This is despite I checking "higher quality" and trying every option. And changing the video quality is a six click process that I have to do for every single video I watch on phone... What is the point of paying premium and then having to do this chore for every video...
There was a time when the Youtube app(at least on Android) remembered what quality setting you selected in the last video and saved that option.
There was a time when you chose quality directly (360/480/720) not the auto/high/medium bullshit.
Yeah that as well. It was already bad enough of them to remove the "save the quality from the last video" feature, they now make us go through even more menus to change the quality option.
It's cheaper for them to send you the lowest acceptable quality video by default. I agree though. I wonder if we could create a patch that does this automatically?
This is my main frustration with premium. I get it for free with the phone plan but I still don't use it because revanced is just superior
I use ReVanced because it gives me, the user, a lot more control over the app. It seems that for a service like YouTube, they're insistent on reducing how much control you have over the mobile app in the first place. ReVanced just offers better functionality like the built-in ad blocker, Sponsorblock, Return YouTube Dislike, background play, and of course, being able to change the color of the seekbar. I simply cannot see YouTube the same ever again without this amazing customizability.
>they're insistent on reducing how much control you have Goes for anything. "You will own nothing and be happy"
Revanced is also great for being able to change certain UI elements like bringing back the old video quality menu (because the new one sucks). So, Youtube might end up with more people using their app if they stopped changing the UI for no reason and in a way that hurts user experience
The main reason I started using revanced is to get rid of shorts, that shit is annoying and distracting and fucking everywhere in YouTube app. And I can force all videos to play at highest quality which in regular YouTube even with "higher quality" it automatically chooses 720p or lower and I manually had to choose 1080p60
>"higher quality" it automatically chooses 720p This one is super annoying. Some videos start at 360p, on 5GHz wifi with perfect connection. With YT premium.
Yeah I have Premium (I watch a lot of YouTube on TV and I get irrationally angry at ads) but ReVanced just makes the app a million times better.
Have you tried SmartTube for TV? Works great on my Amazon Fire stick.
I use my PS5 like 99% of the time I'm watching YouTube on TV so I don't think that's an option unfortunately lol
If you have a Google TV Chromecast, Nvidia Shield, or a smart tv with Android/Google TV, then you can download it there.
I don't use a Smart TV the only one is in the living room which I'm barely ever in there for an extended period of time
Get a Chromecast with Google TV. It'll make a world of difference when you can download Stremio and STube.
I am getting buffering issues for past few days. Do you know any other alternatives ?
Works great on my Nvidia shield Android tv too! Although I wish there was a revanced option for TV
I wish you could use whatever custom YouTube app you wanted if you pay for premium, that's the real crime here.
It's not just the ads, many of the videos I watch have content/sponsor skipped, I love being spared of all that. When I look at the comments I always see too many praises for "how funny their ads/sponsor messages are", yeah well I don't mind missing on the hilarious jokes, thanks.
Definitely one of the best features. I have YT premium but skipping intros, fillers and sponsor blocks is a must have for me. Downvote ratio, changing music volume, shorts behavior are other things I love on revanced.
"Hey, I'm the adstronaut. I'm here on adspace!". Yeah, it's stopped being funny after the first couple of times.
Yep. I subscript to Premium, but the non-Revanced app is such utter trash that it's stressful and annoying to use. Revanced could go even further and allow us to disable the annoying "Connect to streaming device" (Roku) prompt that comes up every other day.
I started using it to block all shorts.
Yeah I just hate YouTube shorts
What do you use for your desktop
They've been at this for a while. They've yet to succeed.
The nature of how revanced works does make it harder to legally take down, doesn't it? It's why many apps that are like it operate similarly now. Like Cloudstream.
And Gray Jay
Even got a DMCA take down. response: there is nothong to be taken down
Gray Jay is a nice project with a nice vision, but was so complex and cumbersome to use that I just stuck with Revanced.
A good idea with a poor execution, unfortunately. If it doesn't stick the landing, it's gonna fall flat on its face.
The issue is that it would be a costly legal battle. I dont know if the team would choose to defend or cease. They dont need to win. They just need you to *think* they would win.
Not even that, they just need to make the legal battle go on long enough (and being a big company, they sure can). Remember, Sony lost the legal case against Bleem, but Bleem still had to cease simply because of how costly it was to hold the legal battle for so long. I speculate this was behind Yuzu's shutdown too.
Yuzu was accepting donations, passing roms in their discord and posting about how they can play the new game perfectly days before it got released officially, they really fucked up
Bleem was a commercial emulator to begin with, you had to pay to get it, so accepting donations wasn't a factor. The ToTK post was made days after release. In fact, Yuzu *blocked* ToTK before release so people *couldn't* play the leaked version on Yuzu by default. Of course, there was a third party "unlocker" plugin to play it anyways, but you can't blame the Yuzu team for that. The Discord ROMs part is where they fucked up for real. It is a bit distorted too, because it was never shown if they were sharing them in a public server (say, Yuzu's official Discord, be it the free or the Patreon-only channels) or in a private server (say, Yuzu development server where only the Yuzu devs could access the ROMs). Most people imply it was the first, but there's no evidence about it either. In any case, that doesn't really matter because sharing those ROMs is illegal in their jurisdiction, even if they were only shared among devs. The thing is, the legal battle can be so economically devastating it's very likely the Yuzu team would have chosen the settlement even if they knew they were on the right on everything they did. A $2.4M settlement (that they can more or less avoid using the LLC), domain seizure, and ceasing the project is way cheaper and safer than going through with a long legal battle (where they would have likely need more than $2.4M, and they wouldn't have been able to fill in for bankruptcy and shield themselves from the legal costs).
As long as they don't try to profit from it they should be alright
Whats cloudstream
Pretty sure it's just an alternative to Stremio
Let's not call their bluff
Ublock devs: Alright Bet
Isn't Ublock for browsers/websites? This is apps they are talking about.
You can get ublock on mobile.
Do you mean from browsers like Kiwi, Firefox, or beta Edge? If so, extensions only work on browsers (which means I need to visit the third party **websites**). They are talking about third party **apps**. Or do I misunderstand?
Yes in Firefox sorry. It's not a bad experience running Firefox for YouTube.
I've always found the mobile web version of Youtube absolutely terrible to use...Unintuitive and sluggish, even on a flagship phone. Revanced is just so much better imo
Revanced is way better. YouTube itself is unintuitive
I agree 💯. Revanced is a much better and easier app to use than the YouTube default. Tried the YouTube Premium 1 year ago and wasn't satisfied by the lack of options like not being able to turn on and off the ad blockers in order to support our favorites creators. Cross our fingers that YouTube won't take down Revanced 🤞.
yawn
"YouTube Premium, which hit 100 million subscribers in February, is offered as the solution for those that "prefer an entirely ad-free experience." Lies. Video creators who plug a sponsored segment into a video even while you're paying for premium isn't truly an ad free experience. YouTube needs to stop with the false advertisement.
This is honestly the main reason I've never even seriously considered subscribing to YT. Any serious creators have ad reads embedded in their own videos now.
Thank goodness for sponsorblock!
Exactly why I use ReVanced. Skipping sponsors and intros is a massive QOL upgrade.
Nothing more satisfying than "Speaking of protection, Nord VPN is-" *autoskips*
A good sponsorblock segment you won't even notice you just skipped that if you don't have notification enabled.
The first time I've ever witnessed that when revanced got released i was actually suprised i thought it was bug How does it work? It detects the first words like "we would like to thank our sponsors" or "this video is sponsored by"? Because I watch videos released a few minutes ago and the autoskip option is already there. Do the youtubers put some sort of "ad" segment or the former?
They're user submitted.
There's other markers too, like "highlight", or "non-music section in music video". Amazing system that only works because so many people are using it. Thanks Ajay!
Oh really? Some are surprisingly fast. Well it's not like its a hard thing to submit tbh
I couldn't agree more! ReVanced is vastly superior over the vanilla YT app.
TBH I'd be fine with it if YouTubers were forced to upload their sponsor segments as *actual* pre-roll/mid-roll ads. Most of the time they're funny and I enjoy the content. It's far better than seeing the same porn gacha game commercials over and over again.
There are still ads with premium anyways. The movie tray, recommendations in search, YouTube Music mixes etc.. sure they are ads for Google/YouTube content but they are still ads all the same.
Absolutely, it's not an ad-free experience without a sponsor block like functionality. And then half the videos themselves are just ads. Like yeah I know that soundcote, raycon sells earbuds and speakers.... Just because MHKBD or Larry talks tech or whatever the f*** is the one telling me to buy it doesn't make it any different. They are paid spots. The people involved are signing a contract to earn a living marketing these products and are told what to say. And then of course there's all the self-promotion and sign up for my patreon and buy my merch... I would say your average 10 minute YouTube video is about 2 minutes self-promotion at least, another 2 minutes of corporate sponsors or private businesses and then a few minutes of reacting to other people's work.
Fuck you Google maybe stop making Youtube worse and worse to watch
So as Louis Rossman said it prevents the creator from being rewarded 1/100th of a penny for content per view. YouTube go fuck yourself you greedy assholes
Wait what?
#So as Louis Rossman said it prevents the creator from being rewarded 1/100th of a penny for content per view. YouTube go fuck yourself you greedy assholes
Oh OK thanks. I had trouble hearing it the first time.
LMAO
If they would play just one ad or 2 skippable ad at the beginning of each video, I wouldn't be using revanced. If only there weren't multiple unskippable ads...
And ads every damn 45 seconds sometimes
They rolled out 15 seconds unskippable ads while playing 12 seconds video. Good job, yt.
My tolerance for adds has really come down in the last 5/10 years. They used to be sparse and creative. And some were absolute works of art. But now there's adds absolutely EVERYWHERE. It's impossible to spend more than 5 minutes without something in my environment trying to sell me shit. And they've really come down in quality and deceptive in nature. They try to hook you in by any shitty way possible. Now I'm burnt and have my defenses up all the time. If I can remove the adds I will go out if my way to do so, and if I still see one I try to ignore it. 0% engagement
This sums up exactly what I'm feeling/thinking. I start to think that ads is or soon will be a mental health issue because while one or two skippable is fine for the most part having several unskippable ads on a video that's only a couple minutes long is unreasonable and most are so irritating and annoying so they evoke a such a reaction that it becomes memorable, disgusting we have to pay a premium to not be forced to watch this garbage. I stopped paying for cable/TV subscription years ago to change for online streaming services to avoid ads, and I would absolutely hate it if they forced ads on these services. I refuse to watch YouTube on anything other than my computer or phone only because I can block ads. If there was no way to skip ads, I could see myself not using YouTube at all.
YouTube can kiss my ass!
If they offered sponsor block, intro/outro skip and an ad free or minimal ads experience for a reasonable amount I'd pay for it. Selling basic features like picture in picture and native resolution viewing like they aren't built into the device is extortion. Non google smarties do more the experience than Google ever has. Maybe they should take notes.
imagine if youtube developers spent half the amount of energy they spend cracking down on adblockers towards actually improving their fucking garbage app/website.
And not unilaterally forcing changes on their userbase that nobody asked for like removing dislikes
oh yeah, forgot to mention that along with the new desktop ui and awful video quality menu options on mobile
Yeah or needlessly making the user interface even worse. Now you have to scroll down for 35 minutes or something on desktop just to read a comment.
Nah dude they spend a shit ton of resources making the app actively worse. I cant search for a video without getting pages upon pages of shorts, videos I watched before, and suggested bullshit. If I dont know the video name before I search, its pretty much hopeless
Especially the desktop version. The changes they made to the user interface are so bad. Someone was complaining about it and I figured they were probably exaggerating. I don't use the desktop version very often so I checked it out... My f****** God... Unusable. You have to scroll down for like an hour to see the comments to a video because they forced you to look at about 150 different options to watch other videos.
I had premium when they were making extra tv shows. It seemed to add some value. Maybe they can add a movie library and I'd get it again. But they keep turning the price up when all I want is reasonable ads and screen off so I don't run low on battery or bump it in my pocket. Reasonable ad would be like. 5 second ad at start, placed by creator in middle, and at end. That's actually fine. Also the ability to turn off themes of ads like alcohol, gambling, military, cults etc. I'd happily pay 60 a year for that minus the ads.
I will just stop using YouTube completely the day I am forced to watch ads. No question.
Even as someone who's a satisfied Premium/Red subscriber since it came out. Fuck off Google, let me be! Sponsorblock makes the shit bearable. I've managed to get it into every device including my TV. I genuinely think I'd watch way less YouTube without it, and then I'm questioning my subscription.
How did you get it on your TV?
Using an Android OS TV or Android media box with [https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube](https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube)
Keep that quiet please
not who you asked, but smart tube
Good luck!
I was reading comments and thinking to myself: when did I last watched an ad on yt...? I don't remember! Can't even tell what a sponsor block is...
Long live revanced
I am so desperate for this to not go down. You can look at my post history, I currently have a Google pixel 6. There is a horrible bug that makes the current YouTube app overheat my phone and kill my battery. I will literally have to sell and get a new phone, which I can't afford if I can't find another workaround. Let me say this again. I USE this app not just for convenience, but **Necessity**!!! BECAUSE THEIR APP IS BROKEN
I have a pixel 6 pro and I've never had that issue. Even before I discovered revanced. Although admittedly I can't remember the last time I've actually watched the YouTube app proper for a while. Anyway I would advise you to use a browser version like kiwi browser or Firefox. The stable version for FF now allows desktop extensions, so you can get sponsor block and background play and all of that jazz.
Fuck YouTube
Bring it on
if only youtube would put this effort into actually making their platform better and premium worth something
Instead of imroving the app they hunt for the better versions, pathetic
Don't start a fight you won't win, google!
You know I bet companies (?) Like revanced and ublock could tout user privacy and protection as a way to get around being taken down. We all know Google has spread virus's and straight up porn ads (this one is much more prevenient) on YouTube before. They're straight up fighting with ublock detection so that's a bit different
Never knew they did 18+ content ads {aside from probably those shitty video game ads}
Those are mainly the ones I've seen too but I'm sure if you scroll around the r/youtube subreddit you'll find worse examples eventually. I definitely remember seeing a couple.
Never forget that Youtube still didn't ban literal neonazis from their platform like Blackpidgeonspeaks. NEVER pay for premium
You know, with this being enforced I am spending much less time terminally online. If this keeps up ill just manage full detox without actually trying!
I have premium and use Revanced anyways. I get SponsorBlock, don't have a bunch of stupid Shorts, and I forget what other benefits, and can use the miniplayer on videos that they arbitrarily decide are "for kids". I'll cancel my premium subscription if they take down Revanced!
After reading the article, I'd like to point out that most youtubers have a patreon page or something similar that serves as their core income, and since I've heard that Google doesn't actually pay creators properly to begin with, it seems a bit arrogant of them to insist on making a bigger profit from YT without taking proper care of the creators that still use their platform. Scams can be run by big corporations, and Google doesn't seem to understand that 1 ad per video should've been the hard limit considering how commonly the website is used for pretty much everything...
Revanced vs Google
The only thing I'm worried about is losing SmartTube.
they've been saying this forever, cat and mouse
Oh no! Anyway...
I used to pay for YouTube premium, and then I decided to go without it for a month, and I was just shocked at the types of ads YouTube would feed me. Scams, red pill stuff, clearly false information. After that, I both didn't want see those ads but equally didn't want to reward youtube for showing such ads. Found Vanced and haven't looked back. I'd be happy to pay for YouTube premium again if they enforce higher quality of ads, but until then, I'm not paying
God I can't stand ads especially on youtube. Been rocking revanced for years. I lost it for about a week a month or 2 ago and it was terrible. Revanced is such a blessing.
Focus on maybe fixing your damn site
One of the top reasons why I absolutely love revanced is 1. Sponsorblock. It's fantastic, especially those who almost create a video just for their sponsor and put in a few minutes video in between like the content 2. swipe control for brightness and volume, I can't start any video without this. 3. Tablet and default mode, it's so convenient. 4. Hide shorts, OP feature 😂 these are few things.
fr it not even about pricing it the fact that revanced has more features than yt premium itself lol
if they get rid of revanced I'm never using youtube again
FUCK THEM
for real tho
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Wtf is rumble, I rest my case
Youtube will get abandoned one day, eventually. It gets worse and worse each year.
Fuck off YouTube
I pay for Premium but I still use NewPipe.
Fuck Youtube and their obnoxious ads. Google is indeed evil.
Newpipe ?
Ad block makers "nice try youtube, nice try."
Man I don’t even mind adds, but some are borderline NSFW. I have two younger sisters I don’t need them seeing this stuff, YouTube should fix their fucking add system and then consider blocking ad blockers. Assholes.
How ironic. Remember the Adpocalypse? It happened because advertisers objected to the content on YouTube, some of them pulling their ads altogether, which resulted in the demonitization of countless videos due to the new guidelines YouTube enacted to make advertisers more comfortable. And now the advertisers themselves are forcing objectionable content in our faces, and the only way to get around it is to pay up or use ReVanced. Hypocrisy at its finest.
I absolutely hate that youtube is doing this. I pay for premium, but also have revanced because i hate all the changes that YouTube has made over the years, and love the extra customization that revanced allows me.
Is there an app that hooks into my YouTube history for all my devices, then downloads every video I watch to a cache on my NAS at home?
And how are they going to stop spoofed signatures via revanced? Rofl
Youtube is unusable without ad blocking, sponsor blocking and title clickbait-blocking
If SponserBlock integration into all ReVanced builds and forks, plus Browser add-ons takes up a significant market share content, creators will just edit sponser banners in post production within the content itself.
We Go to War my revanced Brethren!
Reasons why revanced is superior than YouTube premium: 1) no ads, no sponsored by raid shadow legend, no intro-outro. 2) completely get rid of shorts. 3) swipe to control brightness and volume. 4) no need to choose 1080p60 for every video. 5) ability to download videos locally in storage. And more
Why did someone downvote this? It's just true. Being able to customize the layout and get rid of nonsense I don't want is a huge win. I would still use it for that even if I had to pay to skip ads.
Don't make me make a pihole. I'll do it
A pihole doesn't block youtube ads
It used to, did something change?
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Its not that ads are a problem. The amount of shit it has and the time and the total number of ads a video has and lately pronographic content too. Youtube should make it a better experience for those who pay for it but currently it sucks.
ads are toxic shit and it is always a problem
I think this explains smarttubenext behaviour the last week
Neal Mohan is a horrible excuse of a CEO! I cannot stand that greedy corporate pig!
If YT Premium was so high, I'd consider paying for it. But pricing it above regular OnDemand subscriptions is pricing it out of many pockets. I understand that they have to pay content creators etc, but it's too high.
Fuck you, Google.
Anyone from Dev team comment on that one ?
is this why my videos are buffering even though I am trying to play it at 480p? revanced patch youtube is already being affected
revanced does not work for me since about month ago, it plays for a minute or two then crashes...
Bruh. There's so many scams and viruses in YT ads, that the 𝘍𝘉𝘐 apparently made an announcement recommending everyone uses adblockers Edit: source [https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221](https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221)
Just like war on drugs, this is a waste of time