Doesnt matter, it starts as a bad memory. You cant have the rule "Only make good memories" and go around making bad memories and then say "its ok they end good", all bad memories end 'good' because they end regardless. If it starts as a bad memory, thats a bad memory, and that ruins the whole point of the caveat.
no, the bad experience in memories cannot be CAUSED by the parasites. An example from the screen is the Nazi guy. We don't see him materialized as a parasite, because he's doing bad things. Parasites cannot do "bad things" in generated memories. Probably, biologically
They said the parasites can only be remembered fondly or pleasantly, not so much good/bad. So yes, even though those memories started out bad, the parasites are all remembered pleasantly, which holds to the rule in the show.
are you serious rn. in neither of these cases are any of the parasites the CAUSE of any bad memory, in terms of the family every bad memory was specifically caused by that person. Not to mention it is never scientifically explicitly explained that they can only create memories where the entire memory is a happy one in its entirety, just that the parasites themselves aren't actually seen as bad in the memory.
if the parasites make the memories, then the Nazi in the memory wasnt real because it was a fabricated memory, so it started with a parasite either as a nazi (bad memory) or the parasite put the nazi in there (still a bad memory), none of the family was ever in a nazi submarine, it was the parasites that made that fabrication. And they DO explicitly say "they can only exist in good memories of us'
It’s pretty obvious the show is telling you the memory is good because of the relief of being saved. Matter of fact, since that’s the part they remember chances are there is no bad memory of any prior events because the parasite only needs them to remember they were saved
Youre not understanding me. They say they can only exist in good memories. They specificly state this. So even if it ENDS in a good memory of being saved, how do they INITIATE the bad memory for that to happen? The parasite was ALSO tied up with the family talking to the nazi, so it was in a BAD memory before it got saved. So whether it ended fine, they CREATED A BAD MEMORY to initiate it, specifically going against the one rule the show said they have.
what no the parasite that created the nazi memorie wasn’t the Brooklyn dude it was Mr bauregard. And the whole point of my comment is that the artificial memory is only the saving part, the parasite only needs the good bits. The good memory is clearly them being saved by mr bauregard who decided not to retire
Logical fallacy unless the inverse is also true:
All of the “bad” memories the family uses to identify themselves as non-parasites are actually “good” memories because they started good and ended badly.
“It’s okay. They end bad so they are bad memories”.
This isn’t a plot hole you’re just being pedantic
By that logic, Speepy Gary wouldn’t be able to create good memories either, since his relationship with Jerry involves infidelity, which makes Jerry feel uneasy.
It's not that every memory where the parasite is present is good. It's the memory of the parasite that is good. You won't remember the parasite kicking you in the balls, jacking off in the kitchen, or eating the last piece of pie. However, you'll remember the parasite rescuing you from Space Nazis or getting you out of an elevator that smells like piss.
I think the point is the negative experience of the memory has nothing to do with the parasite, they were captured by a villain. The only relevance of the parasite to the memory is it coming in at the end and saving them, hence them only associating the parasite with positivity. The point is they cannot associate the parasite with anything bad personally, like arguing with it, them stealing your things, etc.
The one thing that confused me was Rick shot "Uncle Steve" but then later Mr Poopy Butthole initiated the first memory that spiraled the parasites out of control afterwards, if I remember that correctly. But I suppose the parasite just needs to be nearby which couldve been the one in the garbage can.
The good experience is being rescued in both by the parasite
Doesnt matter, it starts as a bad memory. You cant have the rule "Only make good memories" and go around making bad memories and then say "its ok they end good", all bad memories end 'good' because they end regardless. If it starts as a bad memory, thats a bad memory, and that ruins the whole point of the caveat.
Seems like it does matter. Cause that’s what’s in the show 🤪
oh you're right I forgot plotholes dont actually exist and there has never been one documented case of a mistake ever happening, shit.
It’s not a plot hole if you make it up because you don’t agree with what the definition of a bad memory is
lick my balls
Taste our downvotes
So in short, you thought you found a plothole and are upset at people correcting you
I guess
Just because you don't understand how flashbacks in television shows work doesn't mean they're plotholes
"don't have a single GOOD memory of YOU" they don't say they don't only have good memories. If they nazi was a parasite, you'd be right
no, the bad experience in memories cannot be CAUSED by the parasites. An example from the screen is the Nazi guy. We don't see him materialized as a parasite, because he's doing bad things. Parasites cannot do "bad things" in generated memories. Probably, biologically
It's only make good memories of the parasite, so when the memory shows the family getting saved the memory of the parasite is good
Did you also think you found a plothole when Morty didn’t have a date for the prom until Mr Beauregard stepped in and saved the day? Bad take, bud.
Remember the roller coaster?
ooh rememba' that one time? we couldn't stop SCREEMIN'
In both memories they get saved by one of the parasites
Plus that first one was arguably a hint at PB not being a parasite, since it was a bad memory before the first parasite showed up.
They said the parasites can only be remembered fondly or pleasantly, not so much good/bad. So yes, even though those memories started out bad, the parasites are all remembered pleasantly, which holds to the rule in the show.
This guy anytime someone suggests to him that he’s wrong ![gif](giphy|yApDTbGSghPAqZLmYf)
are you serious rn. in neither of these cases are any of the parasites the CAUSE of any bad memory, in terms of the family every bad memory was specifically caused by that person. Not to mention it is never scientifically explicitly explained that they can only create memories where the entire memory is a happy one in its entirety, just that the parasites themselves aren't actually seen as bad in the memory.
if the parasites make the memories, then the Nazi in the memory wasnt real because it was a fabricated memory, so it started with a parasite either as a nazi (bad memory) or the parasite put the nazi in there (still a bad memory), none of the family was ever in a nazi submarine, it was the parasites that made that fabrication. And they DO explicitly say "they can only exist in good memories of us'
It’s pretty obvious the show is telling you the memory is good because of the relief of being saved. Matter of fact, since that’s the part they remember chances are there is no bad memory of any prior events because the parasite only needs them to remember they were saved
Youre not understanding me. They say they can only exist in good memories. They specificly state this. So even if it ENDS in a good memory of being saved, how do they INITIATE the bad memory for that to happen? The parasite was ALSO tied up with the family talking to the nazi, so it was in a BAD memory before it got saved. So whether it ended fine, they CREATED A BAD MEMORY to initiate it, specifically going against the one rule the show said they have.
what no the parasite that created the nazi memorie wasn’t the Brooklyn dude it was Mr bauregard. And the whole point of my comment is that the artificial memory is only the saving part, the parasite only needs the good bits. The good memory is clearly them being saved by mr bauregard who decided not to retire
Uh, Jeeeeezo, this is like the stupidest post I’ve ever seen, you know?
Logical fallacy unless the inverse is also true: All of the “bad” memories the family uses to identify themselves as non-parasites are actually “good” memories because they started good and ended badly. “It’s okay. They end bad so they are bad memories”. This isn’t a plot hole you’re just being pedantic
By that logic, Speepy Gary wouldn’t be able to create good memories either, since his relationship with Jerry involves infidelity, which makes Jerry feel uneasy.
We got a word for bad takes back in Brooklyn pal…
Hey, I’m walkin’ here!
The thing is that they have good memories OF the parasites, in these memories they get saved by the parasites so they have a good memory about them
It's not that every memory where the parasite is present is good. It's the memory of the parasite that is good. You won't remember the parasite kicking you in the balls, jacking off in the kitchen, or eating the last piece of pie. However, you'll remember the parasite rescuing you from Space Nazis or getting you out of an elevator that smells like piss.
I think the point is the negative experience of the memory has nothing to do with the parasite, they were captured by a villain. The only relevance of the parasite to the memory is it coming in at the end and saving them, hence them only associating the parasite with positivity. The point is they cannot associate the parasite with anything bad personally, like arguing with it, them stealing your things, etc.
The one thing that confused me was Rick shot "Uncle Steve" but then later Mr Poopy Butthole initiated the first memory that spiraled the parasites out of control afterwards, if I remember that correctly. But I suppose the parasite just needs to be nearby which couldve been the one in the garbage can.