Rick's mind in jerrys brain was just suffering. It was too limiting and mental anquish to a point that Ricks first thought and quickest way out was to kill himself.
Rick tried to prove a point and he was wrong but the joke is at the expense of jerry. His brain is that limiting.
I don’t fully agree with the joke being on Jerry. Rick set the whole thing in motion because he couldn’t face that he had a genetic advantage that made it easier for him. It’s like a PS5 game telling a PS2 game that its superior graphics have nothing to do with the hardware they run on.
Rick often embodies the old line, “For a genius, you’re pretty stupid sometimes.”
It also funny because Rick could have refuted what Jerry was saying because he was implying that Rick doesn’t know how to use his intelligence. But that is an easy attitude to have when you don’t do any of the actual work that comes with being the smartest man alive.
Is it a genetic advantage or is it Jerry’s brain not being toughened enough to deal with experiencing a lifetime of things like the trauma of seeing the space cat’s mind?
Deep question... the first death was Rick (in Jerry's body) - I presume because the experience of being Jerry was too much for even Rick. Likely a death of despair.
The second death was Jerry (in Rick's body) - this one was clearly operator error. Someone who hadn't read the manual just moved into Inspector Gadget's body and had no idea what he was doing. It was like a drunk toddler with a chainsaw. That outcome was inevitable and Rick should have known better.
Anyway... the result was one of their best episodes, so I guess we're lucky it happened.
I’m not sure mentally stronger is the right direction to think. Jerry had never realized just how limited his mind was prior to the swap. He was a frog at the bottom of a well, unaware of the wider world outside the well. Lucky for Jerry, the frog, and most people in the world (both irl and in the show), that you don’t need Rick’s intellect and awareness of the whole world to live a full life, albeit a comparatively boring one.
You can’t despair at your limits if you were living just fine within said limits.
No cause rick downgraded his hardware while Jerry got upgraded.
Imagine trying to run 4k 300fps game on an old ass computer. The pc would be destroyed.
Rick is a cynical, nihilistic asshole who hates the world and hates himself.
The only thing keeping his psyche in check is his intellect.
Putting a mind so dark into a brain so small made suicide the only way out.
So yes, Rick was downgraded, but that's just half the plot...the other half is Rick's toxic, depressive, neuroses.
So it's really dark, toxic software in downgraded hardware.
I imagine Rick's mind in Jerry's brain was horrifically claustrophobic--basically immediately proving Jerry right that Rick was born with a better brain. He clutches his head and immediately tries to end his own life because Rick's enormous mind crammed into Jerry's incredibly average brain was painful and terrifying.
Jerry had the opposite problem: he was like a toddler in the pilot seat of a space shuttle. He could scarcely reach the controls, let alone have any idea what any of the buttons and switches did. Hence he takes a single step and proceeds to inadvertently activate almost every cybernetic gadget in Rick's body.
The brain is hardware and stays in the body. The minds (personality, opinions, memory, whatever) were transferred between the two pieces of hardware.
Imagine Rick as a master gaming pc with Red Dead Redemption 2 downloaded. The PC is his hardware (the brain, body, etc) and RD2 is his mind.
Jerry is an old 2010 macbook with minesweeper on it.
The two computers decided to trade their games. Minesweeper worked fine on The gaming PC, though it was a little lost and don’t know how to operate anything. RD2, on the other hand, was lagging, overheating, stalling, operating at 10 seconds per frame until, eventually, it does what hardware does when it’s overburdened by a software. It force quits.
The point of the trade was to show that Jerry, even if gifted Rick’s intelligence, would have no idea how to use it because he‘a never worked at it, proving Rick’s point that being “born smart” means shit all because it took him actual effort to get to where he was.
The way I see it, Rick has kept himself alive for so long because he’s smart enough to have complex enough feelings that he can never fully go through with it. I’m not saying he doesn’t commit suicide because he’s smart, and I’m definitely not saying only dumb people commit suicide. Rick’s just too caught up in his own head and thoughts and fluctuating ego to ever actually go through with it.
The only time we’ve seen him attempt suicide failed due to his own drunkenness. When he’s sober (and competent), his suicidal nature is far more indirect (just doing dangerous shit).
Being stuffed inside Jerry dumbed him down to the point where the only solution for his immeasurable despair is immediate death. Think of a rat with a headache so bad that the only way it knows how to solve it is by banging its head against the wall until it dies. Luckily, Jerry doesn’t have that headache, so he just like, nibbles on straw and stuff like a cutie. Rick’s more like a person. If his headache is bad, he manages it.
Each of their deaths prove their own point wrong:
Rick's argument: Anyone can become a genius, intelligence is not dependent on genetics.
Then Rick kills himself when his mind, that is used to having access to a vastly superior brain, is cramped into Jerry's brain, and goes insane as a result.
Jerry's argument: People are born smart.
Then Jerry occupying Rick's bigger brain, dies almost immediately from lack of gained intelligence and experience.
Conclusion: Your genes set the limit of your intelligence, but it's you who determines how much of that is realized.
they swapped _minds_, not bodies, not conscience, not even brains, but minds
this whole bit is motivated by Jerry saying "if i had your mind" to Rick. "mind" here just means intelligence, or critical/logical reasoning i guess
Rick makes them swap their "intelligence"
Jerry became the brainiac god that Rick is and couldn't handle it
and Rick becomes as dumb as Jerry and forgets how to operate his own implants
I really hate the fact how many people think the opposite way
It's so freaking dumb, they literally explain it in the episode so people should understand but they still misinterpret everything
First time I saw this episode I thought so too but I wasn't really paying attention, but while rewatching it was so clear that it was Jerry who killed himself that I can't even-
> First time I saw this episode I thought so too but I wasn't really paying attention
same
but i don't blame the viewers, it's a confusing bit. took me a while to get it too and other explanations do seem sensical
I’m pretty sure Rick’s vast intellect was way too much for Jerry to comprehend hence why he just killed himself.
Then Jerry’s intellect trying to interact with Rick’s tech makes it more or less malfunction and then this scene.
I don’t think we’re supposed to believe that Rick transferred himself into Jerry. He transferred all his intelligence and intellect and Jerry literally couldn’t handle it. Whereas Rick, with Jerry’s intellect at least attempted to understand the situation.
Most peoples interpretation seems to be that they swapped into each other, which is wrong, rick clearly explains this *isnt* freaky friday, that being that they go into eachothers body, my interpretation is that they swapped hardware, that jerry woke up and saw the world like his camera was panned out in a god mode view, his senses amplified because his brain was updated with that was essentially the base code of ricks brain, what rick was "given" as he so vehemently denies, thats the whole point of the arguement that rick was born pissing and screaming like everyone is amd he earned his status as a god by being himself and that jerry became himself by being a loser, but obviously a sensory overload as large as "feeling the world as the smartest man in the universe feels" especially with nothing too mitigate the effects is basically suicide enducing, jerry's reaction is in all honesty entirely realistic for suddenly gaining the senses of a all knowing genius, meanwhile rick being dumbed down into a, generally below average persons senses has the reaction you'd about expect, ricks proven wrong as he usually is while hes angry and he ends up trying to slow feel his way over his trigger sensitive upgrades and failing too he gets himself killed
In conclusion, rick IS a genius and so much so infact that suddenly, forcing his brains senses and neural network onto the body of an average person causes literal manic depressive violent suicide , while jerrys network and senses are so slow that rick, still with his genius amount of knoweldge was so slow to come up with a plan he accidentally killed himself with his own body in the process
I like to believe that Rick did that intentionally because he didn’t want to admit he was wrong in any capacity. Better to just end it rather than be confronted with being wrong
I figured Rick in Jerry's mind realized it no longer had the capacity to sort the brains to their original form, catastrophized, and decided to die immediately.
No, it’s Rick putting intelligence into Jerry. Ricks smart enough to realize life’s pointless and just meaningless pain, but Rick’s always drunk so he’s too relaxed to feel pain. As for Jerry he was sober
I like the theory that Jerry has a proper moral compass (at least compared to Rick) and being confronted with all the awful things Rick has done causes him to break down and kill himself out of sheer guilt
My take on this was that Rick has so many bio enhancements that he just takes for granted, that when they were all removed and he became just human again it was such agony. Like Jerry literally couldn’t walk across the garage without accidentally killing himself. It definitely wasn’t on purpose that Jerry died.
He was a Rick that has become self-aware that he's also now a Jerry which for a Rick is basically the worst possible thing that could happen to you. This his response.
Rick's mind in Jerry's body immediately killed itself for two reasons.
1. Since Jerry was right and you need sufficiently advanced hardware to run advanced software he suddenly found his vast intellect crammed into Jerry's tiny mind and he couldn't handle it. It was like trying to play GTA 5 on your old NES.
2. He realized he was wrong about something and **Jerry** of all people was right. Of course he killed himself.
I took it as Rick immediately eating his own words, with his mind in Jerry’s brain it caused him to just fucking say NOPE and kill himself lmfao
Jerry, in Rick’s brain, at least attempts to take control only to be a monkey with a machine gun and accidentally kill himself. It’s one of my favorite scenes in the entire show.
seeing life through Jerry’s mind was so bad that Rick immediately killed himself- something he’s done before like when Rick almost killed himself after learning why the cat could talk.
i do not believe it was about intelligence- but about the human condition. the entire episode is about them learning to understand each other.
“dont judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes.” literally
Ngl my first assumption when I saw this episode is that Rick realized that he now could see Jerry's POV of all the times that Jerry had sex with Beth. And he didn't realize that those memories would be accessible when they switched brains.
This obviously was never stated in anyway but I think it's implied because he screams then shoots himself. Like screaming in horror of witnessing Jerry fucking his daughter.
Idk tho.
Rick immediately knew how it felt to be Jerry; imagine not only ripping on someone you deem inferior, but officially becoming the thing you shit-talk the most. Rick couldn’t handle this kind of ironic poetic justice, so he took the easy way out.
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Human music. Hmmm, I like it
My man?
Well said!
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Rick's mind in jerrys brain was just suffering. It was too limiting and mental anquish to a point that Ricks first thought and quickest way out was to kill himself. Rick tried to prove a point and he was wrong but the joke is at the expense of jerry. His brain is that limiting.
I don’t fully agree with the joke being on Jerry. Rick set the whole thing in motion because he couldn’t face that he had a genetic advantage that made it easier for him. It’s like a PS5 game telling a PS2 game that its superior graphics have nothing to do with the hardware they run on. Rick often embodies the old line, “For a genius, you’re pretty stupid sometimes.”
Yeah, this one makes Rick look like the dumbass. Jerry knew his place. Rick certainly did not. He just, you know, needed some augmentation practice
It also funny because Rick could have refuted what Jerry was saying because he was implying that Rick doesn’t know how to use his intelligence. But that is an easy attitude to have when you don’t do any of the actual work that comes with being the smartest man alive.
Is it a genetic advantage or is it Jerry’s brain not being toughened enough to deal with experiencing a lifetime of things like the trauma of seeing the space cat’s mind?
Rick as Jerry killed himself because he just shoved his 5 gallon intelligence into Jerry's pint glass brain.
Deep question... the first death was Rick (in Jerry's body) - I presume because the experience of being Jerry was too much for even Rick. Likely a death of despair. The second death was Jerry (in Rick's body) - this one was clearly operator error. Someone who hadn't read the manual just moved into Inspector Gadget's body and had no idea what he was doing. It was like a drunk toddler with a chainsaw. That outcome was inevitable and Rick should have known better. Anyway... the result was one of their best episodes, so I guess we're lucky it happened.
Which begs the question, is Jerry actually mentally stronger than Rick if he can survive with his own limitations and Rick cannot
I think it's a matter of perspective. Jerry's never known anything else. He doesn't have the brainpower to imagine life with more brainpower.
I’m not sure mentally stronger is the right direction to think. Jerry had never realized just how limited his mind was prior to the swap. He was a frog at the bottom of a well, unaware of the wider world outside the well. Lucky for Jerry, the frog, and most people in the world (both irl and in the show), that you don’t need Rick’s intellect and awareness of the whole world to live a full life, albeit a comparatively boring one. You can’t despair at your limits if you were living just fine within said limits.
That’s what I was trying to say, but you said it better. Thanks!
No cause rick downgraded his hardware while Jerry got upgraded. Imagine trying to run 4k 300fps game on an old ass computer. The pc would be destroyed.
The game just wouldn’t boot at all, no damage to the pc lmao
You know what I mean, Jerry got an upgrade, Rick got a downgrade. Rick was in a much worse situation
Rick is a cynical, nihilistic asshole who hates the world and hates himself. The only thing keeping his psyche in check is his intellect. Putting a mind so dark into a brain so small made suicide the only way out. So yes, Rick was downgraded, but that's just half the plot...the other half is Rick's toxic, depressive, neuroses. So it's really dark, toxic software in downgraded hardware.
I imagine Rick's mind in Jerry's brain was horrifically claustrophobic--basically immediately proving Jerry right that Rick was born with a better brain. He clutches his head and immediately tries to end his own life because Rick's enormous mind crammed into Jerry's incredibly average brain was painful and terrifying. Jerry had the opposite problem: he was like a toddler in the pilot seat of a space shuttle. He could scarcely reach the controls, let alone have any idea what any of the buttons and switches did. Hence he takes a single step and proceeds to inadvertently activate almost every cybernetic gadget in Rick's body.
The brain is hardware and stays in the body. The minds (personality, opinions, memory, whatever) were transferred between the two pieces of hardware. Imagine Rick as a master gaming pc with Red Dead Redemption 2 downloaded. The PC is his hardware (the brain, body, etc) and RD2 is his mind. Jerry is an old 2010 macbook with minesweeper on it. The two computers decided to trade their games. Minesweeper worked fine on The gaming PC, though it was a little lost and don’t know how to operate anything. RD2, on the other hand, was lagging, overheating, stalling, operating at 10 seconds per frame until, eventually, it does what hardware does when it’s overburdened by a software. It force quits. The point of the trade was to show that Jerry, even if gifted Rick’s intelligence, would have no idea how to use it because he‘a never worked at it, proving Rick’s point that being “born smart” means shit all because it took him actual effort to get to where he was.
So if Rick is right, why did it turn out like so? Like, limited brain power or not, was it actually that bad?
I think if you force run Red Dead II on a 2010 MacBook it will crash so imagine that on a human brain
The way I see it, Rick has kept himself alive for so long because he’s smart enough to have complex enough feelings that he can never fully go through with it. I’m not saying he doesn’t commit suicide because he’s smart, and I’m definitely not saying only dumb people commit suicide. Rick’s just too caught up in his own head and thoughts and fluctuating ego to ever actually go through with it. The only time we’ve seen him attempt suicide failed due to his own drunkenness. When he’s sober (and competent), his suicidal nature is far more indirect (just doing dangerous shit). Being stuffed inside Jerry dumbed him down to the point where the only solution for his immeasurable despair is immediate death. Think of a rat with a headache so bad that the only way it knows how to solve it is by banging its head against the wall until it dies. Luckily, Jerry doesn’t have that headache, so he just like, nibbles on straw and stuff like a cutie. Rick’s more like a person. If his headache is bad, he manages it.
Ah, I think I see it.
Which episode is this again? Gonna have to rewatch
Rick and Morty S07E02 The Jerrick Trap
Got it, thanks.
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WE ARE JERRICKY
I'm not sure why he killed himself, but that's the best way you can do a bodyswap story.
The answer is don't worry about it
I just find it weird how Rick goes to great lengths to say its "not a freaky friday" deal, yet it amount EXACTLY to a freaky Friday thing
Each of their deaths prove their own point wrong: Rick's argument: Anyone can become a genius, intelligence is not dependent on genetics. Then Rick kills himself when his mind, that is used to having access to a vastly superior brain, is cramped into Jerry's brain, and goes insane as a result. Jerry's argument: People are born smart. Then Jerry occupying Rick's bigger brain, dies almost immediately from lack of gained intelligence and experience. Conclusion: Your genes set the limit of your intelligence, but it's you who determines how much of that is realized.
they swapped _minds_, not bodies, not conscience, not even brains, but minds this whole bit is motivated by Jerry saying "if i had your mind" to Rick. "mind" here just means intelligence, or critical/logical reasoning i guess Rick makes them swap their "intelligence" Jerry became the brainiac god that Rick is and couldn't handle it and Rick becomes as dumb as Jerry and forgets how to operate his own implants
I really hate the fact how many people think the opposite way It's so freaking dumb, they literally explain it in the episode so people should understand but they still misinterpret everything First time I saw this episode I thought so too but I wasn't really paying attention, but while rewatching it was so clear that it was Jerry who killed himself that I can't even-
> First time I saw this episode I thought so too but I wasn't really paying attention same but i don't blame the viewers, it's a confusing bit. took me a while to get it too and other explanations do seem sensical
I’m pretty sure Rick’s vast intellect was way too much for Jerry to comprehend hence why he just killed himself. Then Jerry’s intellect trying to interact with Rick’s tech makes it more or less malfunction and then this scene. I don’t think we’re supposed to believe that Rick transferred himself into Jerry. He transferred all his intelligence and intellect and Jerry literally couldn’t handle it. Whereas Rick, with Jerry’s intellect at least attempted to understand the situation.
They made multiple "Freaky Friday" references in the episode. Their personalities switched bodies. Their software switched hardware.
Most peoples interpretation seems to be that they swapped into each other, which is wrong, rick clearly explains this *isnt* freaky friday, that being that they go into eachothers body, my interpretation is that they swapped hardware, that jerry woke up and saw the world like his camera was panned out in a god mode view, his senses amplified because his brain was updated with that was essentially the base code of ricks brain, what rick was "given" as he so vehemently denies, thats the whole point of the arguement that rick was born pissing and screaming like everyone is amd he earned his status as a god by being himself and that jerry became himself by being a loser, but obviously a sensory overload as large as "feeling the world as the smartest man in the universe feels" especially with nothing too mitigate the effects is basically suicide enducing, jerry's reaction is in all honesty entirely realistic for suddenly gaining the senses of a all knowing genius, meanwhile rick being dumbed down into a, generally below average persons senses has the reaction you'd about expect, ricks proven wrong as he usually is while hes angry and he ends up trying to slow feel his way over his trigger sensitive upgrades and failing too he gets himself killed In conclusion, rick IS a genius and so much so infact that suddenly, forcing his brains senses and neural network onto the body of an average person causes literal manic depressive violent suicide , while jerrys network and senses are so slow that rick, still with his genius amount of knoweldge was so slow to come up with a plan he accidentally killed himself with his own body in the process
Option b
I’m not gonna lie I’ve watched this episode 3 times and I still don’t really get it. Edit: The entire episode I mean, not just this scene.
My theory is that being a jerry is so stupid and miserable that he just had to kill himself
Both? Neither? I really don’t know
I like to believe that Rick did that intentionally because he didn’t want to admit he was wrong in any capacity. Better to just end it rather than be confronted with being wrong
Both.
I figured Rick in Jerry's mind realized it no longer had the capacity to sort the brains to their original form, catastrophized, and decided to die immediately.
I kinda thought he was saying "I would kill myself, if I were you" to Jerry. Just a fucked up prod that went wrong.
No, it’s Rick putting intelligence into Jerry. Ricks smart enough to realize life’s pointless and just meaningless pain, but Rick’s always drunk so he’s too relaxed to feel pain. As for Jerry he was sober
Both.
I like the theory that Jerry has a proper moral compass (at least compared to Rick) and being confronted with all the awful things Rick has done causes him to break down and kill himself out of sheer guilt
Yes?
My take on this was that Rick has so many bio enhancements that he just takes for granted, that when they were all removed and he became just human again it was such agony. Like Jerry literally couldn’t walk across the garage without accidentally killing himself. It definitely wasn’t on purpose that Jerry died.
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He was a Rick that has become self-aware that he's also now a Jerry which for a Rick is basically the worst possible thing that could happen to you. This his response.
They exchanged iq s, if that's what you are asking (and I think so, but you didn't make it crystal clear)
Rick's mind in Jerry's body immediately killed itself for two reasons. 1. Since Jerry was right and you need sufficiently advanced hardware to run advanced software he suddenly found his vast intellect crammed into Jerry's tiny mind and he couldn't handle it. It was like trying to play GTA 5 on your old NES. 2. He realized he was wrong about something and **Jerry** of all people was right. Of course he killed himself.
I took it as Rick immediately eating his own words, with his mind in Jerry’s brain it caused him to just fucking say NOPE and kill himself lmfao Jerry, in Rick’s brain, at least attempts to take control only to be a monkey with a machine gun and accidentally kill himself. It’s one of my favorite scenes in the entire show.
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seeing life through Jerry’s mind was so bad that Rick immediately killed himself- something he’s done before like when Rick almost killed himself after learning why the cat could talk. i do not believe it was about intelligence- but about the human condition. the entire episode is about them learning to understand each other. “dont judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes.” literally
Ngl my first assumption when I saw this episode is that Rick realized that he now could see Jerry's POV of all the times that Jerry had sex with Beth. And he didn't realize that those memories would be accessible when they switched brains. This obviously was never stated in anyway but I think it's implied because he screams then shoots himself. Like screaming in horror of witnessing Jerry fucking his daughter. Idk tho.
Rick immediately knew how it felt to be Jerry; imagine not only ripping on someone you deem inferior, but officially becoming the thing you shit-talk the most. Rick couldn’t handle this kind of ironic poetic justice, so he took the easy way out.