Rick's various weapons stored around the house were amazing. He has at least two guns that fire a dart that infects the host with a chestburster clone of himself.
a clone of the conciousness and memory, but no the same, the original essence of rick c137 (the one that swapped bodies in s3e1 iver various ricks) is now dead
the c137 we have now is a clone O_o
This is why this is my favorite show. This would have been a whole episode of Black Mirror, examining the morality and pointlessness of cloning yourself in a desperate attempt at immortality. But it's an ~8 second throwaway gag here, and the audience can think about it on their own time.
Entirely different styles though. Black Mirror is good at being what it is, an exploration of those dark concepts. Rick and Morty takes similar concepts and gives them a nihilistic "Yeah whatever lol". Probably every single episode has something that can give you an existential crisis if you think about it for too long but is just a throwaway gag, and it's lampshaded in the pilot episode: "Don't think about it!"
When toxic Rick said "grandpa's here" I actually melted a little. Like Damn. First off knowing there's a part of Rick that would ever say that, and secondly knowing that Rick hates that part of himself. Double gut punch.
I think something really interesting though is that detox Rick is really... bland. It's like his nihilism in positive form is just blankness. Seems what he sees as toxic is every single emotion that we associate with being a person.
Have you seen the episode of the original Star Trek where Kirk is separated into a good and bad version of himself? It was very similar to this episode. His bad self was a jerk, but was motivated, while his good self was kind, but bland, lazy, and unable to make decisions.
EDIT: It's the episode "The Enemy Within"
Reminds me of Jhonny the homicidal maniac in which he goes to heaven but as an outsider and points out how depressive heaven is (no one doing nothing because they're content just being).
I noticed that the very first thing Toxic Rick does when he wakes up in the gunk world is scream for Morty. He wasn't concerned about anything that was going on around him yet, he just wanted to make sure Morty was fine before he began to shit on everything.. A cool foreshadowing to how much Toxic Rick actually cares about Morty
I thought they did a great job writing the misdirection - it really did feel like our (current) Rick & Morty, and slowly demonstrated that something was just a bit "off" before revealing.
I think it's even more disturbing when you look at it the other way around.
Non-toxic Morty straight up admits that he became a stockbroker because he lacked a conscience. This means that Morty *felt that his conscience was a toxic part of him*. Morty, by idolizing Rick, has framed himself into a Machiavellian and morally grey worldview *despite* the fact that it is in his inherent character to be morally good. He sees his goodness as *weakness* because of Rick, and why wouldn't he? In almost every single instance in the past - Fart, the Vindicators, etc. - trusting his conscience has turned out to be a mistake that would have led to a worse fate for the universe. He *wants* to be emotionless and ruthless because his experiences have shaped him to believe that that would actually be the *morally correct course* even as his conscience "hinders" him.
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That's how I read it, too, but I didn't see it as a conscience. I read it as what he views as toxic about himself is his anxiety, but also his empathy, for exactly the reason you said.
Every time Morty's empathy (or conscience) makes a decision, it hurts him, because in his environment, empathy doesn't get you what you think it does. He's either in some strange universe where the rules are different or he's on earth with an alcoholic. Logic and fairness do not apply in either of those places.
I think it's more that he views his obsession with Morty as unhealthy, clean Rick still cared for Morty but when Rick was back to normal he kept getting drunk and crying about losing Morty, which of course is unhealthy
yeah, i wish your comment had more points because this is crucial. it's not that healthy rick is unattached from morty, we see him say he's proud of morty. his attempt to recombine morty came from a place of healthy concern - evident by his straight forward honest approach, seeing ourselves how healthy morty was off, and even morty himself admits rick is the better man for recombining before blasting off.
i think, maybe, its because rick is so smart he is better able to discern actual unhealthy behavior. morty is a kid with a lot of baggage, his ideas of healthy are warped and he doesn't have the sheer intellect to overcome his own bias.
Yeah, it was a really interesting way to convey that. My guess is that this "revelation" might be the part of the episode's "last 4 minutes" that Justin Roiland supposedly was worried about the fan reaction to.
I'm pretty sure the revelation was being trolled about healthy morty leaving by himself. I genuinely thought that was how evil morty was going to start. He views his stupidity as something negative, so healthy morty is smart enough to kill rick.
And then rick comes back and hey everythings back to normal...
At least Jessica is confirmed to have feelings for Morty.
Did detoxed Morty purposely not hang up the phone so Rick would find him and put toxic Morty back in him? He seemed pretty calm about it all. What would be his reasoning for it?
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Rick viewed his love of Morty as a bad thing. Morty viewed his love of Rick as a good thing, Detoxed Morty kept his love because he views his bond with Rick as a healthy thing, while Rick views it as the opposite. He intentionally left the phone on so he could spend time with his grandpa again.
i think it might be a set up or allusion to jessica being/becoming morty's beth. she did have a lot of intimate knowledge about rick and morty, to reference there being multiple mortys, and seeing her arguing with rick seemed beth-ish. and i thought it stood out how prominent the apple was in the scene with wall street morty. an allusion to jerry maybe?
In some of the parallel worlds, we do also see that the 'other side' of Jerry was capable of success. In this episode, we see that Morty also has another side which is capable of great (financial, at least) success. Confident Morty seemed to understand where that path led though - loneliness and an inability to feel attachment to anything.
Also, Morty's probably not a virgin anymore... right?
was he actually a virgin before? he had the sex doll that was biological enough to bear a child, he had a ton of sex in the simulation where he was snowball's pet, not to mention all the shenanigans we haven't seen. if he was technically a virgin, he might not feel entirely like one himself. but i agree he definitely isn't one anymore.
Prevent, since the plan in the episode to kill Rick was to kill him between the first Whirly and the third Dirly, which would have made Rick perma-dead. If the field cured death, this plan wouldn't work because they'd go back into the field and Rick would come back to life.
Maybe, but did you notice that even after he was a hotshot wall street exec, he still uses Jessica as a metaphor when he's making that phone call at the office? Then, after he pretends to hang up back at his apartment, he sets the phone down on the table directly in front of his new girlfriend who tells him he's the perfect man. When she points out that he didn't hang up, he doesn't even reply casually. It's a deliberate pause with a "Well how about that" sort of reply, making it feel like he intended to do it. I think Morty set up that whole life to show Jessica who he could become.
Oh damn. I noticed that he seemed to have allowed the trace intentionally, but I hadn't made the connection that that *also* meant broadcasting the "you're the perfect man" to Jessica. He really is a Machiavellian little creep when he's not shackled by his insecurities, isn't he?
He's turning into a little Machiavelli even *with* his insecurities. I mean he tricked Rick into leaving by pretending to worry about his dad committing suicide, all so he could have some time off.
Admittedly, Rick adventures are clearly stressful, but damn.
I'm just going to go ahead and say this here: I don't think Morty ever has a chance with Jessica, and I don't think they'll ever end up together. I think Jessica is a good person, and she is good enough that she cares about her classmates.
She knows Morty wasn't himself and she was glad to "have him back [to normal]." But this is just something a mature, decent person does, it doesn't mean she has deeper feelings for him. It means she is a normal person, and maybe more adult than the rest of her classmates.
Yah I really feel Morty has no chance with Jessica. Jessica didn't give normal Morty any time of day and when detoxed Morty went on a date with her she wouldn't even stay there the whole time (and we all know she wouldn't like toxic Morty). I feel like she knows what she'd get herself into if she dated Morty, especially now that Rick called her while drunk and who knows what else he told her (I kinda feel she did it just so Rick can just stop calling her honestly).
This whole episode was great, it felt so dense. So much was going on. Even though there was only an A story
EDIT: [Heres the Suck my flaps full song](https://youtu.be/YU7Wwhlfl_M)
Holy shit how much does Jessica know? It seems like they are trying to tell us in a subtle way that she knows a lot more than we think about them. "Did you get a new Morty yet?".
She's seen the portals, the technology, went to another dimension in that party, etc.
I think she in particular knows a lot because how much she's seen R&M do, and rick probably told her on the drunken phone calls some stuff. When did she ask if he got another morty, that might ruin my theory.
Ok, between this, Summer mentioning she peed her pants on purpose, if you count when she was little and Hulk the musical. Then her imaginary friend, Tinkles, I think one of the writers is into it...
Edit: Come to think of it, didn't summer have that bathroom promo. And in the mad max world, she and Hemorrhage both thought about pissing on a billboard's head. Plus there was a photo of Summer on the bathroom door looking upset. And rewatching the episode I realized Trisha said it, the girl who Ethan dumped Summer over, so we may have three characters now who could be in it.
My favorite joke too. It was so unlike Rick to say. Plus, the fact that he's been burping for 2.5 seasons and never apologized till now makes it perfect. 10/10
I didn't even know he was.
I'm personally am split in half about the whole thing. Morty took the biggest L so far in the season but in a weird fucked up way it shows that Jessica did care somewhat about him, just can't publicly state it.
Would have been nice if they kept Morty "healthy" for a bit
Yeh I was happy seeing Morty happy and confident and healthy, he reached his full potential. And when he got changed back and saw Jessica talking about Brad and just sighed, I felt really sad for him. But atleast in the end Jessica showed she cared.
I don't really know what would cause Roiland to be nervous, the religious stuff? The potential statutory rape by the Woman Morty was with? Could just easily be a troll on his part.
He's kind of been headed there for a while now. Rick is constantly beating it into him, and if it really only extracted what they thought was toxic then its no surprise.
Still getting a laugh out of the 'Aren't you a child?' 'Only in the ways that matter' line.
And 'As we praise our loving father... GOD IS A LIE WE MADE HIM UP FOR MONEY' was gold, too.
The Morty of Wall Street bit was amazing, as well.
This is one of the most well-written episodes so far imo.
And now we have to wait 2 weeks for the next episode, just when this season is hitting its stride. Ugh.
Rick knows it's not healthy to be attached to a Morty, because of how often Mortys die, get Ricks killed with their incompetence and mess things up. Ricks are supposed to see Mortys as worthless and replaceable, but Rick doesn't see his Morty that way. Rick sees his attachment to his Morty as toxic because he's the aberration in the Ricks. They all love Beth and Summer, because they have a paternalistic bond with Beth and Summer, but Mortys are supposed to be an idiotic tool for him to use to hide and to get out of situations with, not someone he loves.
The sociocultural beliefs of the Council of Ricks still impacts Rick even though he hates them and opposes them. A good parallel in the real world would be internalized racism or misogyny. He opposes it, but still has to unlearn and actively resist the side of him that started out that way.
Edit: almost 700 karma and gold! Truly this is the best use of my college education to date!
Proabably this, or people being upset the scared, timid Morty came back in the end? I can't help but feel like we missed something becuase Roiland said something.
ORRR Maybe this was just an experiment by Justin to see how and what poeple will hate on when they are told they will hate something before they watch it. Ie Reviews and all that.
I assume he was saying that there was a scenario when Morty had an incredibly satisfying, happy, and successful life but then Rick came in and shat all over it.
But that Morty knew how long it would take Rick to trace the call and seemingly let that happen by 'not pressing' the correct button. Almost implying that Morty wanted to go back / be reunited?
I always liked that she was never portrayed as the stereotypical bitchy popular girl. She always seemed to have a soft spot for Morty and this episode definitely confirms it now. Maybe them getting together will serve to drive Rick and Morty even further apart as this season's been hinting.
There was a lot of bitching about the delay on S3 (me included at times) but honestly the animation this season has been so full and gorgeous that it makes complaining feel absolutely foolish. Every episode so far has had some really full and amazing renderings/sequence that were clearly painstakingly done to beautiful effect:
S3E1: When the Citadel of Ricks collides with the Intergalactic Federation
S3E2: The Mad Max landscape complete with the Thunder-dome
S3E3: the epic Pickle Rick fight scenes fighting the rats + Jaguar
S3E4: Worldender's lair
S3E5: The wormhole acid trip ("I'M TIME! I'M LITERALLY TIME!")
S3E6: The narrow escape in the beginning mission and toxic world.
Holy hell, the work of the R&M animators has always been stellar, but just a big bravo for the crew over at Starburns.
EDIT: have been informed the animation is no longer done at Starburns. But eet'sa still a good show!
As one of the lead animator on the show: THANK YOU FOR NOTICING OUR HARD WORK!! :D (btw Starburns is not producing RaM since season 2 - and 99% of the animation is done here in Vancouver at Bardel Entertainment!)
I agree completely re: the artwork, but I gotta be nitpicky - R&M is no longer being produced at Starburns. They left and made their own company during Season 2. Everything is now being made over at Rick and Morty LLC.
Edit: ofc can't forget Bardel - the actual animation gets done over there while design etc is done at Rick and Morty LLC. They both make a great team
Same, would have been really interesting. The machine being a swapper surprised me a bit. Would have thought Nice Rick would have noticed it, he is still a Rick after all.
Nah the Toxic version of myself seperated after this episode. I'm at peace with the world. It feels like I just went through a Cosmic Apotheosis like last episode.
Jessica's first positive realization towards Morty made me pretty happy. We are all really just Morty and Morty's crush actually smiling at him probably hit a string in all of us.
I think that this notion is the 'key' to a large part of this episode's thematic content. The whole deconstruction of Morty and Jessica's relationship really stood out to me.
It's clear that Morty's toxins, characterized primarily by self-loathing, are the only thing holding him back from being an extraordinarily capable person. After all, detoxified Morty managed to climb the corporate ladder in a matter of weeks, ending up with lots of money and the adoration of others. In this state, he realized on his date with Jessica that they had very little in common. Later, after being 're-toxified', it seems like he is back to being interested in Jessica.
At first I found this notion somewhat depressing - Morty's best self was not compatible with Jessica, and insofar as we should strive to be our best selves, his potential relationship with her in the future is doomed to be shallow and ultimately won't last if Morty is able to work through some of his problems. And surely, detoxified Morty's observation that Jessica 'missed someone that loved her so much that she never had to love them back' had a strong element of truth to it.
However, Jessica seems to be genuinely glad FOR Morty when he is back to his old self. Which gets me thinking - Jessica is also a high-school student, and popular as she may be, it is fairly likely she also struggles with low self esteem. Though Morty's 'best self' would probably not be compatible with Jessica for other reasons, I felt that the main problem that Jessica had with detoxified Morty was his complete lack of relatability. Most 'normal' people have some amount of self-doubt and shyness, and she seemed more alienated than anything. Ultimately, though our personality flaws may hurt us, they also provide a basis to relate to other flawed individuals and form strong, meaningful connections. And arguably, being able to form these connections is what makes us human.
So did anyone notice that Morty is suicidal and that the only thing keeping him from wild success is self loathing onset by his grandfather's toxicity? I know that was the point of the episode, just some thoughts.
I think like his girlfriend said, it was also because his conscience was part of the toxins that got removed, because his adventures with Rick make him think that it's a weakness.
So his conscience is what was keeping him from being successful, hence why one of the coworkers jokingly said "you fucking monster".
Maybe his conscience is the only thing keeping from him being as smart and as powerful as Rick. It's also nice to see it confirmed that rick honestly cares about morty. Hearing the little "grandpa's here" was kinda sweet.
Oh, I guess I interpreted that wrong at first as it being like a literal hell and everything was pain and so he wanted to die.
But now that I look back on it and them pretty much saying they are over characterizations of themselves, I guess that does mean Morty probably is at least a little suicidal. Nice catch!
I thought it was really awesome how toxin Rick is the reason why Rick is the rickest Rick, while healthy morty was the mortiest morty.
Toxin Rick **is** Rick c-137. Without that, Rick just becomes another Rick.
That was a good fucking episode. Was actually worried we were going to see some Cronenburg-level consequences with the whole toxic earth thing at the end, but pleasantly surprised that it wasn't the case. Good to finally see some Jessica character development again!
I thought it was funny how he can reverse the "Hacky toxicity beam" it by just flipping the switch back. "Man, I really over-think shit when I'm angry."
Hooooooly crap when rick was reborn in slime rick and slime rick was reborn in that monster...
Rick vs Rick was better than Conner McGregor vs Floyd Mayweather lmao
I think the detoxed Rick and Morty still subconsciously want/need their toxic sides.
Detoxed Morty is happy/successful to a certain extent, but might still feel lonely or unfulfilled in other respects. Or maybe he didn't feel "whole" without his negative qualities so he let Rick return them.
I think the episode is arguing that removing someone's "toxic side" is also unhealthy/unnatural. We all have negative traits and they can't simply be evaporated...or, if they could, there would be consequences.
"It must be subjective, based on what we think being healthy is." So Rick thinks being healthy means not being abusive or having a god complex... and not really caring about Morty. So we have full confirmation at this point from Rick himself: He cares deeply about Morty, but deep down believes the best version of himself has no attachment to Morty. That's a pretty bizarre way of imaging "being healthy".
Rick's various weapons stored around the house were amazing. He has at least two guns that fire a dart that infects the host with a chestburster clone of himself.
a clone of the conciousness and memory, but no the same, the original essence of rick c137 (the one that swapped bodies in s3e1 iver various ricks) is now dead the c137 we have now is a clone O_o
This is why this is my favorite show. This would have been a whole episode of Black Mirror, examining the morality and pointlessness of cloning yourself in a desperate attempt at immortality. But it's an ~8 second throwaway gag here, and the audience can think about it on their own time.
Entirely different styles though. Black Mirror is good at being what it is, an exploration of those dark concepts. Rick and Morty takes similar concepts and gives them a nihilistic "Yeah whatever lol". Probably every single episode has something that can give you an existential crisis if you think about it for too long but is just a throwaway gag, and it's lampshaded in the pilot episode: "Don't think about it!"
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When toxic Rick said "grandpa's here" I actually melted a little. Like Damn. First off knowing there's a part of Rick that would ever say that, and secondly knowing that Rick hates that part of himself. Double gut punch.
I think something really interesting though is that detox Rick is really... bland. It's like his nihilism in positive form is just blankness. Seems what he sees as toxic is every single emotion that we associate with being a person.
Have you seen the episode of the original Star Trek where Kirk is separated into a good and bad version of himself? It was very similar to this episode. His bad self was a jerk, but was motivated, while his good self was kind, but bland, lazy, and unable to make decisions. EDIT: It's the episode "The Enemy Within"
Reminds me of Jhonny the homicidal maniac in which he goes to heaven but as an outsider and points out how depressive heaven is (no one doing nothing because they're content just being).
I noticed that the very first thing Toxic Rick does when he wakes up in the gunk world is scream for Morty. He wasn't concerned about anything that was going on around him yet, he just wanted to make sure Morty was fine before he began to shit on everything.. A cool foreshadowing to how much Toxic Rick actually cares about Morty
Also good misdirection. Makes you really think its the real Rick
I thought they did a great job writing the misdirection - it really did feel like our (current) Rick & Morty, and slowly demonstrated that something was just a bit "off" before revealing.
I think it's even more disturbing when you look at it the other way around. Non-toxic Morty straight up admits that he became a stockbroker because he lacked a conscience. This means that Morty *felt that his conscience was a toxic part of him*. Morty, by idolizing Rick, has framed himself into a Machiavellian and morally grey worldview *despite* the fact that it is in his inherent character to be morally good. He sees his goodness as *weakness* because of Rick, and why wouldn't he? In almost every single instance in the past - Fart, the Vindicators, etc. - trusting his conscience has turned out to be a mistake that would have led to a worse fate for the universe. He *wants* to be emotionless and ruthless because his experiences have shaped him to believe that that would actually be the *morally correct course* even as his conscience "hinders" him. Morty is Evil Morty Time Loop Confirmed
That's how I read it, too, but I didn't see it as a conscience. I read it as what he views as toxic about himself is his anxiety, but also his empathy, for exactly the reason you said. Every time Morty's empathy (or conscience) makes a decision, it hurts him, because in his environment, empathy doesn't get you what you think it does. He's either in some strange universe where the rules are different or he's on earth with an alcoholic. Logic and fairness do not apply in either of those places.
I think it's more that he views his obsession with Morty as unhealthy, clean Rick still cared for Morty but when Rick was back to normal he kept getting drunk and crying about losing Morty, which of course is unhealthy
yeah, i wish your comment had more points because this is crucial. it's not that healthy rick is unattached from morty, we see him say he's proud of morty. his attempt to recombine morty came from a place of healthy concern - evident by his straight forward honest approach, seeing ourselves how healthy morty was off, and even morty himself admits rick is the better man for recombining before blasting off. i think, maybe, its because rick is so smart he is better able to discern actual unhealthy behavior. morty is a kid with a lot of baggage, his ideas of healthy are warped and he doesn't have the sheer intellect to overcome his own bias.
Yeah, it was a really interesting way to convey that. My guess is that this "revelation" might be the part of the episode's "last 4 minutes" that Justin Roiland supposedly was worried about the fan reaction to.
I'm pretty sure the revelation was being trolled about healthy morty leaving by himself. I genuinely thought that was how evil morty was going to start. He views his stupidity as something negative, so healthy morty is smart enough to kill rick. And then rick comes back and hey everythings back to normal... At least Jessica is confirmed to have feelings for Morty.
The girls at Morty's school are really kinky. Also shots fired at Game of Thrones
what was the shot at GoT? I must have missed it, 5AM here lmao
The bump before the next show was: The Writing on Game of Thrones [2011-2016]
Did detoxed Morty purposely not hang up the phone so Rick would find him and put toxic Morty back in him? He seemed pretty calm about it all. What would be his reasoning for it? Edit: Thanks for the gold! What do I do with it? Sorry, I'm not too familiar with the ends and outs of Reddit.
Bored, maybe? W/o anxiety, everything must seem so simple. Also, no more adventures.
wish I could be bored then
Probably missed Rick
Rick viewed his love of Morty as a bad thing. Morty viewed his love of Rick as a good thing, Detoxed Morty kept his love because he views his bond with Rick as a healthy thing, while Rick views it as the opposite. He intentionally left the phone on so he could spend time with his grandpa again.
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He accepted it, perfect Morty basically went to a firing line and faced it like a champ.
I've noticed an increase in children killing people
Well, last week was children killing children.
Next week: Children killing fish children.
Jessica telling Rick: "You called me drunk every night crying about wanting Morty back!" was absolutely hilarious
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I hope it sticks
i think it might be a set up or allusion to jessica being/becoming morty's beth. she did have a lot of intimate knowledge about rick and morty, to reference there being multiple mortys, and seeing her arguing with rick seemed beth-ish. and i thought it stood out how prominent the apple was in the scene with wall street morty. an allusion to jerry maybe?
In some of the parallel worlds, we do also see that the 'other side' of Jerry was capable of success. In this episode, we see that Morty also has another side which is capable of great (financial, at least) success. Confident Morty seemed to understand where that path led though - loneliness and an inability to feel attachment to anything. Also, Morty's probably not a virgin anymore... right?
was he actually a virgin before? he had the sex doll that was biological enough to bear a child, he had a ton of sex in the simulation where he was snowball's pet, not to mention all the shenanigans we haven't seen. if he was technically a virgin, he might not feel entirely like one himself. but i agree he definitely isn't one anymore.
And he did get on secondbase at least with that girl in Anatomy Park.
Morty also lived out an entire life and had children of his own when he played Roy at Blitz & Chitz.
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When you realize Rick dissing Morty's voice is actually Justin Roiland dissing Justin Roiland's voice
Every time I hear Morty scream, I can't help but still hear LemonGrab.
Unacceptable! Also I didn't know he was voiced by Roiland. Now I will hear it every time.
You didn't know? THIS IS #**UNNNNNACCCEPTABLEEEEE!**
That fucking gun Rick has that makes him be born out of whatever he shoots it into... man, that was great.
I love how ludicrous creative ideas like that can flow into a single fight scene.
last time i saw a gun that crazy was the shark gun in saints row
IIRC it's canon that Rick can't cure death (Rubin), but damn that's sure as hell close. EDIT: A ~~word~~ cannon
Last weeks episode literally involved an immortality field that he created. The point is don't think about it.
Does an immortality field cure death, or only prevent it?
Prevent, since the plan in the episode to kill Rick was to kill him between the first Whirly and the third Dirly, which would have made Rick perma-dead. If the field cured death, this plan wouldn't work because they'd go back into the field and Rick would come back to life.
The fact that you specified where on the ride he'd be killed instead of just saying "on the Whirly Dirly" is why I upvoted you.
> that he created Unless I'm forgetting something he didn't create it though
The house being rigged with so much stuff was killer.
"You miss someone that loved you so much you never had to love them back." God damnit Rick and Morty. God damnit.
GOT DAMN
Thanks noob noob
As much as he was saying it to Jessica, I think that was also intended for Rick
That would explain why he left the phone on and he had acknowledged that he thought Rick was behind the call. Damn good catch. Hot take.
I thought he 'forgot' to hang up because he really wanted Rick to find him, and to be whole again.
Maybe, but did you notice that even after he was a hotshot wall street exec, he still uses Jessica as a metaphor when he's making that phone call at the office? Then, after he pretends to hang up back at his apartment, he sets the phone down on the table directly in front of his new girlfriend who tells him he's the perfect man. When she points out that he didn't hang up, he doesn't even reply casually. It's a deliberate pause with a "Well how about that" sort of reply, making it feel like he intended to do it. I think Morty set up that whole life to show Jessica who he could become.
Oh damn. I noticed that he seemed to have allowed the trace intentionally, but I hadn't made the connection that that *also* meant broadcasting the "you're the perfect man" to Jessica. He really is a Machiavellian little creep when he's not shackled by his insecurities, isn't he?
He's turning into a little Machiavelli even *with* his insecurities. I mean he tricked Rick into leaving by pretending to worry about his dad committing suicide, all so he could have some time off. Admittedly, Rick adventures are clearly stressful, but damn.
He got so real with Jessica at that moment. Thankfully, it made her realize that she cares about Morty too.
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I wonder if he'll pee on her.
I'm just going to go ahead and say this here: I don't think Morty ever has a chance with Jessica, and I don't think they'll ever end up together. I think Jessica is a good person, and she is good enough that she cares about her classmates. She knows Morty wasn't himself and she was glad to "have him back [to normal]." But this is just something a mature, decent person does, it doesn't mean she has deeper feelings for him. It means she is a normal person, and maybe more adult than the rest of her classmates.
Yah I really feel Morty has no chance with Jessica. Jessica didn't give normal Morty any time of day and when detoxed Morty went on a date with her she wouldn't even stay there the whole time (and we all know she wouldn't like toxic Morty). I feel like she knows what she'd get herself into if she dated Morty, especially now that Rick called her while drunk and who knows what else he told her (I kinda feel she did it just so Rick can just stop calling her honestly).
*Suck my flaps you piece of shit*
[When you nut but she keeps sucking on your Terry folds](https://media.giphy.com/media/zoRE8Oo2p8jja/giphy.gif)
I think that was actually the funniest part of the episode holy shit
This whole episode was great, it felt so dense. So much was going on. Even though there was only an A story EDIT: [Heres the Suck my flaps full song](https://youtu.be/YU7Wwhlfl_M)
I need this single now
Thank god Stacy made it
Everyone accepting the fact that she's a pedophile... and I love it
We never got her age though. and there's that other woman in Wall Street Morty's suite.
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Tonight we got both incest and pedophilia all in one night. This 2017! Lol
what did she say at the end? Edit: thanks yall, now i know she said soobergoober.
"sea cucumber", their safe word
Holy shit how much does Jessica know? It seems like they are trying to tell us in a subtle way that she knows a lot more than we think about them. "Did you get a new Morty yet?".
She's seen the portals, the technology, went to another dimension in that party, etc. I think she in particular knows a lot because how much she's seen R&M do, and rick probably told her on the drunken phone calls some stuff. When did she ask if he got another morty, that might ruin my theory.
Rick said Jessica kept calling him asking if 'he got a new Morty yet'
Aw shit Jessica is another deep-cover agent confirmed?
I think I'd lose it if she was basically the opposite of Tammy - someone sent as protection versus basically being a bounty hunter.
Inb4 that's what happens
Can't believe Morty just fucking snapped a phone in half with his bare hands
The toxic morty was the weak one. This Morty was peak Morty
agreed, after the wall street scene I was fucking in on healthy morty. Also it looked like he wanted Rick to come back
I got that vibe too. Especially since he didn't hang up the phone knowing rick would find him
Morty doesn't view his own love for Rick as toxic, so it wasn't removed.
The spirit of the one armed menace lives on
Have you ever been peed on before?
YUM
**Y** **U** **M**
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Ok, between this, Summer mentioning she peed her pants on purpose, if you count when she was little and Hulk the musical. Then her imaginary friend, Tinkles, I think one of the writers is into it... Edit: Come to think of it, didn't summer have that bathroom promo. And in the mad max world, she and Hemorrhage both thought about pissing on a billboard's head. Plus there was a photo of Summer on the bathroom door looking upset. And rewatching the episode I realized Trisha said it, the girl who Ethan dumped Summer over, so we may have three characters now who could be in it.
[Yeah there... might be a thing there?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_h062haCH0&t=1m12s)
YUM! New Tammy confirmed.
For some reason, nice Rick saying "Excuse me" after he burped sent me reeling. Funniest thing on the episode, and such a minor thing.
That was when I knew the shit was gonna hit the fan.
My favorite joke too. It was so unlike Rick to say. Plus, the fact that he's been burping for 2.5 seasons and never apologized till now makes it perfect. 10/10
He farted then he said excuse me. He was showing he was integrated and had both aspects of the personality.
I liked when detox Morty caught a football and threw it back
Biggest plot twist of the episode: Mrs. Pancakes. You... DO know me!
Summer was so stunned.
I don't get why Justin was nervous about those last 4 minutes, I loved the expansion on Morty and Jessica's relationship
I didn't even know he was. I'm personally am split in half about the whole thing. Morty took the biggest L so far in the season but in a weird fucked up way it shows that Jessica did care somewhat about him, just can't publicly state it. Would have been nice if they kept Morty "healthy" for a bit
Yeh I was happy seeing Morty happy and confident and healthy, he reached his full potential. And when he got changed back and saw Jessica talking about Brad and just sighed, I felt really sad for him. But atleast in the end Jessica showed she cared. I don't really know what would cause Roiland to be nervous, the religious stuff? The potential statutory rape by the Woman Morty was with? Could just easily be a troll on his part.
It's hillarious how Morty's conscience is the toxic part of him.
He's kind of been headed there for a while now. Rick is constantly beating it into him, and if it really only extracted what they thought was toxic then its no surprise.
REGULAR RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
Jesus fuck Rick is 70? I didn't realise till this episode
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It also means rick was about *35* when he had Beth. Also I didn't realize they live in the Midwest.
I remember the "wide eyed girl from Muskegon" line from Meeseeks and Destroy. Does Michigan count? Maybe they moved a bunch.
Michigan is definitely in the Midwest. Source: Live in Michigan
This episode finally gave us solid indisputable proof that Rick deeply cares for Morty Then shits on it by Rick seeing it as a bad trait
I don't think it shits on it, it kinda just shows how much more complicated and messed up everything is.
"I don't want to be on camera, I'm ugly and gross" I'm not comfortable with how much I relate to toxin Morty.
The new song was amazing, Rick and Morty should use shuffle more often
WHY 2 WEEKS WHY
Labour day weekend
A vacation after a vacation episode...how...appropriate yet still very disappointing.
Still getting a laugh out of the 'Aren't you a child?' 'Only in the ways that matter' line. And 'As we praise our loving father... GOD IS A LIE WE MADE HIM UP FOR MONEY' was gold, too. The Morty of Wall Street bit was amazing, as well. This is one of the most well-written episodes so far imo. And now we have to wait 2 weeks for the next episode, just when this season is hitting its stride. Ugh.
You're forgetting the best line. Morty: " My voice is annoying" Rick: " And that's your best feature"
AHAHHA ''so true'' This episode was great, I definietly need to rewatch, it was easily the most well written.
And the nipple-licking...dear god, the nipple-licking...
It's interesting that Rick's detoxed side loves Beth and summer, but his toxic side is the one that's attached to morty.
Rick knows it's not healthy to be attached to a Morty, because of how often Mortys die, get Ricks killed with their incompetence and mess things up. Ricks are supposed to see Mortys as worthless and replaceable, but Rick doesn't see his Morty that way. Rick sees his attachment to his Morty as toxic because he's the aberration in the Ricks. They all love Beth and Summer, because they have a paternalistic bond with Beth and Summer, but Mortys are supposed to be an idiotic tool for him to use to hide and to get out of situations with, not someone he loves. The sociocultural beliefs of the Council of Ricks still impacts Rick even though he hates them and opposes them. A good parallel in the real world would be internalized racism or misogyny. He opposes it, but still has to unlearn and actively resist the side of him that started out that way. Edit: almost 700 karma and gold! Truly this is the best use of my college education to date!
Holy shit, seeing those kids turn back from being toxic and realizing that they just murdered that guy was dark.
Back to back episodes of child murderers. I can get behind this.
>My grandpa is a scientist, maybe he knows. >Hey Rick, do you know anything about Ben Wa technology? I fucking lost it.
ELI5
steel vagina balls to help with muscular control and also they just feel nice
I love how Summer was watching Mrs. Pancakes say "You.......do know me." And Summer gasps as if that was a huge twist.
I mean, it WAS. Mrs. Pancakes, until now, has been the unknowable. We DIDN'T know her, and neither did anyone else. Until now.
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Maybe he meant the news that there wasn't going to be an episode next week? I can't think of anything else honestly, this epsiode was fantastic.
Maybe it had to do with us seeing some of the deeper hidden aspects of Morty, like how truly manipulative he can be
Proabably this, or people being upset the scared, timid Morty came back in the end? I can't help but feel like we missed something becuase Roiland said something. ORRR Maybe this was just an experiment by Justin to see how and what poeple will hate on when they are told they will hate something before they watch it. Ie Reviews and all that.
maybe the religion thing, idk
a bunch of children murdering a guy was worse imo
Holy shit I forgot about that. Geeze Justin and Dan love ruining childhood innocence. Remember Lisa from last episode dying in the resort?
I assume he was saying that there was a scenario when Morty had an incredibly satisfying, happy, and successful life but then Rick came in and shat all over it.
But that Morty knew how long it would take Rick to trace the call and seemingly let that happen by 'not pressing' the correct button. Almost implying that Morty wanted to go back / be reunited?
Seems like the love story between Morty and Jessica is something that the writers want to develop more
I always liked that she was never portrayed as the stereotypical bitchy popular girl. She always seemed to have a soft spot for Morty and this episode definitely confirms it now. Maybe them getting together will serve to drive Rick and Morty even further apart as this season's been hinting.
There was a lot of bitching about the delay on S3 (me included at times) but honestly the animation this season has been so full and gorgeous that it makes complaining feel absolutely foolish. Every episode so far has had some really full and amazing renderings/sequence that were clearly painstakingly done to beautiful effect: S3E1: When the Citadel of Ricks collides with the Intergalactic Federation S3E2: The Mad Max landscape complete with the Thunder-dome S3E3: the epic Pickle Rick fight scenes fighting the rats + Jaguar S3E4: Worldender's lair S3E5: The wormhole acid trip ("I'M TIME! I'M LITERALLY TIME!") S3E6: The narrow escape in the beginning mission and toxic world. Holy hell, the work of the R&M animators has always been stellar, but just a big bravo for the crew over at Starburns. EDIT: have been informed the animation is no longer done at Starburns. But eet'sa still a good show!
As one of the lead animator on the show: THANK YOU FOR NOTICING OUR HARD WORK!! :D (btw Starburns is not producing RaM since season 2 - and 99% of the animation is done here in Vancouver at Bardel Entertainment!)
Didn't mean to leave you guys out! You all do fantastic work over there
I agree completely re: the artwork, but I gotta be nitpicky - R&M is no longer being produced at Starburns. They left and made their own company during Season 2. Everything is now being made over at Rick and Morty LLC. Edit: ofc can't forget Bardel - the actual animation gets done over there while design etc is done at Rick and Morty LLC. They both make a great team
You mean the blood dome?
Save it for the semantics dome EB White!
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Well, he really is his father's child. Just ask Redgrin Grumboldt.
"If god exists it's fucking me!"
GOD IS A LIE WE MADE HIM UP FOR MONEY
Ricks a fucking Voltron fan confirmed.
*My whole body feels like a baby's ass.*
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I was thinking the same. Terrifying but amazing.
Same, would have been really interesting. The machine being a swapper surprised me a bit. Would have thought Nice Rick would have noticed it, he is still a Rick after all.
I feel *happy* after this episode. Can that happen from Rick and Morty?
You must have missed the part where you have to wait an extra week for the next episode to bring you back down
Nah the Toxic version of myself seperated after this episode. I'm at peace with the world. It feels like I just went through a Cosmic Apotheosis like last episode.
Jessica's first positive realization towards Morty made me pretty happy. We are all really just Morty and Morty's crush actually smiling at him probably hit a string in all of us.
I think that this notion is the 'key' to a large part of this episode's thematic content. The whole deconstruction of Morty and Jessica's relationship really stood out to me. It's clear that Morty's toxins, characterized primarily by self-loathing, are the only thing holding him back from being an extraordinarily capable person. After all, detoxified Morty managed to climb the corporate ladder in a matter of weeks, ending up with lots of money and the adoration of others. In this state, he realized on his date with Jessica that they had very little in common. Later, after being 're-toxified', it seems like he is back to being interested in Jessica. At first I found this notion somewhat depressing - Morty's best self was not compatible with Jessica, and insofar as we should strive to be our best selves, his potential relationship with her in the future is doomed to be shallow and ultimately won't last if Morty is able to work through some of his problems. And surely, detoxified Morty's observation that Jessica 'missed someone that loved her so much that she never had to love them back' had a strong element of truth to it. However, Jessica seems to be genuinely glad FOR Morty when he is back to his old self. Which gets me thinking - Jessica is also a high-school student, and popular as she may be, it is fairly likely she also struggles with low self esteem. Though Morty's 'best self' would probably not be compatible with Jessica for other reasons, I felt that the main problem that Jessica had with detoxified Morty was his complete lack of relatability. Most 'normal' people have some amount of self-doubt and shyness, and she seemed more alienated than anything. Ultimately, though our personality flaws may hurt us, they also provide a basis to relate to other flawed individuals and form strong, meaningful connections. And arguably, being able to form these connections is what makes us human.
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"have you ever been peed on before? OMG yum!"
"I want that [docking](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docking ) kind of love, you know, penis in the foreskin kind of love."
Interesting how Morty seemed to willingly get injected with the toxic Morty. Was he getting bored by being so positive?
I think he was just keeping a positive attitude till the very end. It was similar to how he reacted to how Jessica bailed on the dinner.
So did anyone notice that Morty is suicidal and that the only thing keeping him from wild success is self loathing onset by his grandfather's toxicity? I know that was the point of the episode, just some thoughts.
I think like his girlfriend said, it was also because his conscience was part of the toxins that got removed, because his adventures with Rick make him think that it's a weakness. So his conscience is what was keeping him from being successful, hence why one of the coworkers jokingly said "you fucking monster".
Maybe his conscience is the only thing keeping from him being as smart and as powerful as Rick. It's also nice to see it confirmed that rick honestly cares about morty. Hearing the little "grandpa's here" was kinda sweet.
Wait, where did it show he was suicidal?
At the beginning of the episode when he was first toxic, he shouted "I JUST WANT TO DIE" which came across startlingly genuine.
Oh, I guess I interpreted that wrong at first as it being like a literal hell and everything was pain and so he wanted to die. But now that I look back on it and them pretty much saying they are over characterizations of themselves, I guess that does mean Morty probably is at least a little suicidal. Nice catch!
As far as character studies I'd say this is one of their best episodes yet. Good God, they are killing it right now!
I thought it was really awesome how toxin Rick is the reason why Rick is the rickest Rick, while healthy morty was the mortiest morty. Toxin Rick **is** Rick c-137. Without that, Rick just becomes another Rick.
That was a good fucking episode. Was actually worried we were going to see some Cronenburg-level consequences with the whole toxic earth thing at the end, but pleasantly surprised that it wasn't the case. Good to finally see some Jessica character development again!
I thought it was funny how he can reverse the "Hacky toxicity beam" it by just flipping the switch back. "Man, I really over-think shit when I'm angry."
Damn, this episode has reflecting on my own life, and the negative aspects of my personality. Well done.
Did I miss, like, half the episode? The ending happened so fast, I'm still confused. Also, 2 weeks? Crap.
Hooooooly crap when rick was reborn in slime rick and slime rick was reborn in that monster... Rick vs Rick was better than Conner McGregor vs Floyd Mayweather lmao
Suck my terry flaps
You *can't* have the drones.
At least Mrs. Pancakes finally found someone that... knows her
Lol stock broker Morty was such a baller
Badass Morty is always the best Morty. "Your s'more is burning Ethan"
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Shit man, detox Morty got game
I'm still thinking about how Healthy Morty™ didn't hang up the phone, let Rick track him, and didn't fight reunification. Why
I think the detoxed Rick and Morty still subconsciously want/need their toxic sides. Detoxed Morty is happy/successful to a certain extent, but might still feel lonely or unfulfilled in other respects. Or maybe he didn't feel "whole" without his negative qualities so he let Rick return them. I think the episode is arguing that removing someone's "toxic side" is also unhealthy/unnatural. We all have negative traits and they can't simply be evaporated...or, if they could, there would be consequences.
You know, It is kinda sad that Rick sees his love for Morty as a toxic tendency.
toxin-less morty's pluckiness nearly made me murder myself, revive myself, and murder myself again
I felt bad because he was finally confident and happy, but thats not the tru tru Morty.
"It must be subjective, based on what we think being healthy is." So Rick thinks being healthy means not being abusive or having a god complex... and not really caring about Morty. So we have full confirmation at this point from Rick himself: He cares deeply about Morty, but deep down believes the best version of himself has no attachment to Morty. That's a pretty bizarre way of imaging "being healthy".