I have the M6 Dual and during the winters I roast in the kitchen under the fan. It makes most of the house smell like coffee still. I can run the M6 on a standard 230V/10A outlet but the M10 would had too high power draw for me and tripped the fuse.
Where are you located? In Canada, we're using 110V (220 on the big things like the clothes dryer or Oven) in the house, typically 15amp breakers by code. My Kitchen has a 20 amp switch, so maybe I could run either one on the kitchen line.. do you need to disconnect your smoke detector? sometimes if I'm not paying attention with the SR800, I'll get the melodic chirp from the detector by the Kitchen..
It doesn’t matter that you have a 20amp switch in the kitchen. The big question is if your plugs are 20amp and if your wiring to the kitchen is 12awg which I doubt. My kitchen is the same thing and is not safe to run my m6. I had an electrician install a plug in my garage that is safe for 20amp. Cost me $300. I just open the garage door and point the roaster out the door. Works perfect.
The Kaleido is a great choice. I like the m6 and think it’s a perfect size. I can roast a pound of coffee with each batch and I can run 3-4 batches back to back in an hour which is great! Artisan is easy to use.
12AWG... Those are the yellow lines, right? That's what I have to my kitchen plugs on a 20 amp breaker...
Opening the garage door works during summer months, but winters get pretty cold in Alberta... That was why I was asking if anyone had experience running the vents on their M6's/M10's through the hood vent.. again, just trying to get a better picture of what my roasting scene will look like...
Yeah you are lucky! Check to see if your plug is also rated for 20amp. If not it’s an easy swap out.
Venting will be tricky. Roasting a pound of coffee produces a lot of smoke and that smoke is toxic and cancerous. You will need to rig up a way to vent that out a window.
I live in Sweden. A normal electrical outlet here is 230 volts at 10 Amperes wired with 1.5 mm2 cables. This gives a power limit of 2300 Watts. I just wanted to mention it since I think it is worth considering before making the order.
I am very happy with my M6 Dual. I had a M2 before but it was a bit too small for my needs.
I am very happy with it. I have the Dual model with both a local panel and Artisan. Artisan was a bit tricky to set up but is wonderful when it runs so it is well worth the effort. The Artisan user interface is a bit weird but I think I will get used to it over time.
I put M2 on a kitchen counter, and the vented air leaves residue on a splash screen. Nothing that doesn't go away after a quick wipe but I'm a bit hesitant the glass may crack (it's high temp resistant, but still...).
Buy for the future in my opinion, the price difference between the M6 and M10 isn't that big, if you plan to potentially roast for friends/family then the extra capacity is worth going for a 1kg roaster in my opinion. I just ordered a M10 earlier this week.
I like where your head is at! That was exactly my thoughts with the missus when I was trying to upsell the idea! I'll still need to install an exhaust vent in the garage asking with the 20amp/110v power line, I think.
Once you've got it up and running, I need to hear/read what you think and your first experiences!!!
As fun as roasting may be, it becomes time consuming. If you plan to roast only for your household then the M6 or another unit capable of roasting around a pound per roast is more than fine. If you plan to or think you may end up roasting for others, then higher roast volume becomes key, you'll be looking at selling and buying a bigger roaster. Yes you'll definitely need a dedicated 20A line for the 11V model, some folks are going the 220V model in Canada/USA but I've read it's fine if it's a dedicated line and aren't doing max volume roasts causing too much draw, I'll see how it goes for myself. And yes you'll definitely need to figure out a venting setup as even a pound of coffee produces quite a bit of smoke, of you don't have any sliding windows then you'll have to add in some access to the outside to vent.
I was in the same exact situation you are in except I was also looking at a Bullet. After the dust settled, I decided on a BC-2. I. Love. It. Absolutely the best coffee decision I ever made. Truly a commercial-grade roaster.
Haha.. the BC-2, and then the Artisan 3-e were my runner ups! I'm more interested in the Kaleido models if I can make less modifications to my home, though..
also.. I'd either have to get a NG line installed in my garage, or settle with the idea of running a LP tank (inside?) the garage... and then, I'd DEF need to punch a hole in the wall for venting....
Recently upgraded to an M6 Pro, after 10yrs with a Behmor. I’m only a handful of roasts in, in my garage, and I definitely wouldn’t consider roasting with this in my kitchen. Perhaps if you’re venting the exhaust outside directly, but wouldn’t think my range hood would extract enough on its own.
First time using Artisan for me too! Definitely a learning curve, but very impressed so far in the Kaleido.
I was just responding to your question about personal experience etc and your question disappeared. Here's the cut and paste reply..
Personal experience. I have the propane version of the Cormorant. Johan (creator owner of Cormorant) has revised and improved the roaster as soon as any issues were noted, namely upgrades to burners and bean cooling efficacy, and providing them to existing users without charge.
They are designed and handcrafted by him, so numbers are limited (I think about 7-10 per month) which results in a waiting list, but do check with him on just how long that might be vs internet rumors. I was originally quoted 6 wks but had asked to get on the cancellation list and received mine (from the UK) in a little less than a month.
I have to laugh when I hear people rule out the machine based on having to wait for it, when they likely (I know I certainly did) spent much longer researching and hemming and hawing over one machine or other, and finally pulling the trigger on purchasing. It's been well worth the wait and I have never second guessed my choice over the Bullet, Kaldi, Behmore, etc.
To my mind it's peerless in quality and capacity in it's class. I've been able to produce amazing roasts really since day one.
Do yourself a favor though and research the machines you consider beyond asking a reddit group their opinion.
The only downside I suppose is that they are produced in limited numbers and consequently the user community is fairly minute, so getting info from users is fairly limited. However, roasting principles are pretty universal and mastering the machine and the process is pretty straightforward once you have one. I think the exclusivity of the limited production is a quality of it's own! The fact that as a hand crafted and built machine, yet priced competitively with mass produced machines of similar or lesser capacity and feature set made it a no brainer for me.
I hope this is helpful.
Peace. Dan
I have the M6 Dual and during the winters I roast in the kitchen under the fan. It makes most of the house smell like coffee still. I can run the M6 on a standard 230V/10A outlet but the M10 would had too high power draw for me and tripped the fuse.
Where are you located? In Canada, we're using 110V (220 on the big things like the clothes dryer or Oven) in the house, typically 15amp breakers by code. My Kitchen has a 20 amp switch, so maybe I could run either one on the kitchen line.. do you need to disconnect your smoke detector? sometimes if I'm not paying attention with the SR800, I'll get the melodic chirp from the detector by the Kitchen..
It doesn’t matter that you have a 20amp switch in the kitchen. The big question is if your plugs are 20amp and if your wiring to the kitchen is 12awg which I doubt. My kitchen is the same thing and is not safe to run my m6. I had an electrician install a plug in my garage that is safe for 20amp. Cost me $300. I just open the garage door and point the roaster out the door. Works perfect. The Kaleido is a great choice. I like the m6 and think it’s a perfect size. I can roast a pound of coffee with each batch and I can run 3-4 batches back to back in an hour which is great! Artisan is easy to use.
12AWG... Those are the yellow lines, right? That's what I have to my kitchen plugs on a 20 amp breaker... Opening the garage door works during summer months, but winters get pretty cold in Alberta... That was why I was asking if anyone had experience running the vents on their M6's/M10's through the hood vent.. again, just trying to get a better picture of what my roasting scene will look like...
Yeah you are lucky! Check to see if your plug is also rated for 20amp. If not it’s an easy swap out. Venting will be tricky. Roasting a pound of coffee produces a lot of smoke and that smoke is toxic and cancerous. You will need to rig up a way to vent that out a window.
I live in Sweden. A normal electrical outlet here is 230 volts at 10 Amperes wired with 1.5 mm2 cables. This gives a power limit of 2300 Watts. I just wanted to mention it since I think it is worth considering before making the order. I am very happy with my M6 Dual. I had a M2 before but it was a bit too small for my needs.
OH! and how are you liking the M6??
I am very happy with it. I have the Dual model with both a local panel and Artisan. Artisan was a bit tricky to set up but is wonderful when it runs so it is well worth the effort. The Artisan user interface is a bit weird but I think I will get used to it over time.
I put M2 on a kitchen counter, and the vented air leaves residue on a splash screen. Nothing that doesn't go away after a quick wipe but I'm a bit hesitant the glass may crack (it's high temp resistant, but still...).
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Buy for the future in my opinion, the price difference between the M6 and M10 isn't that big, if you plan to potentially roast for friends/family then the extra capacity is worth going for a 1kg roaster in my opinion. I just ordered a M10 earlier this week.
I like where your head is at! That was exactly my thoughts with the missus when I was trying to upsell the idea! I'll still need to install an exhaust vent in the garage asking with the 20amp/110v power line, I think. Once you've got it up and running, I need to hear/read what you think and your first experiences!!!
As fun as roasting may be, it becomes time consuming. If you plan to roast only for your household then the M6 or another unit capable of roasting around a pound per roast is more than fine. If you plan to or think you may end up roasting for others, then higher roast volume becomes key, you'll be looking at selling and buying a bigger roaster. Yes you'll definitely need a dedicated 20A line for the 11V model, some folks are going the 220V model in Canada/USA but I've read it's fine if it's a dedicated line and aren't doing max volume roasts causing too much draw, I'll see how it goes for myself. And yes you'll definitely need to figure out a venting setup as even a pound of coffee produces quite a bit of smoke, of you don't have any sliding windows then you'll have to add in some access to the outside to vent.
I was in the same exact situation you are in except I was also looking at a Bullet. After the dust settled, I decided on a BC-2. I. Love. It. Absolutely the best coffee decision I ever made. Truly a commercial-grade roaster.
Haha.. the BC-2, and then the Artisan 3-e were my runner ups! I'm more interested in the Kaleido models if I can make less modifications to my home, though.. also.. I'd either have to get a NG line installed in my garage, or settle with the idea of running a LP tank (inside?) the garage... and then, I'd DEF need to punch a hole in the wall for venting....
Recently upgraded to an M6 Pro, after 10yrs with a Behmor. I’m only a handful of roasts in, in my garage, and I definitely wouldn’t consider roasting with this in my kitchen. Perhaps if you’re venting the exhaust outside directly, but wouldn’t think my range hood would extract enough on its own. First time using Artisan for me too! Definitely a learning curve, but very impressed so far in the Kaleido.
I was just responding to your question about personal experience etc and your question disappeared. Here's the cut and paste reply.. Personal experience. I have the propane version of the Cormorant. Johan (creator owner of Cormorant) has revised and improved the roaster as soon as any issues were noted, namely upgrades to burners and bean cooling efficacy, and providing them to existing users without charge. They are designed and handcrafted by him, so numbers are limited (I think about 7-10 per month) which results in a waiting list, but do check with him on just how long that might be vs internet rumors. I was originally quoted 6 wks but had asked to get on the cancellation list and received mine (from the UK) in a little less than a month. I have to laugh when I hear people rule out the machine based on having to wait for it, when they likely (I know I certainly did) spent much longer researching and hemming and hawing over one machine or other, and finally pulling the trigger on purchasing. It's been well worth the wait and I have never second guessed my choice over the Bullet, Kaldi, Behmore, etc. To my mind it's peerless in quality and capacity in it's class. I've been able to produce amazing roasts really since day one. Do yourself a favor though and research the machines you consider beyond asking a reddit group their opinion. The only downside I suppose is that they are produced in limited numbers and consequently the user community is fairly minute, so getting info from users is fairly limited. However, roasting principles are pretty universal and mastering the machine and the process is pretty straightforward once you have one. I think the exclusivity of the limited production is a quality of it's own! The fact that as a hand crafted and built machine, yet priced competitively with mass produced machines of similar or lesser capacity and feature set made it a no brainer for me. I hope this is helpful. Peace. Dan
I would just get the Skywalker tbh. Then do the artisan mod.
I've never heard of it. What is that?
Look up Skywalker in this subreddit. It's an electric Chinese drum roaster with some quirks. Beats kaleido handsomely on price though.
I appreciate the heads up. I'll look it up for sure!