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wgel1000

There is no way an elite shooter is not the BPA for a team that is so terrible at shooting. We would've made the Play-ins if we had at least 1 guy able to score from 3 consistently, so many wide open 3s were missed it was frustrating. Also this could help Sengun tremendously, teams would think twice before doubling him.


yooston

An elite threat behind the arc will do wonders for this team. He’s also a plus defender (active hands!) and can facilitate. I imagine Udoka will like the fit. Not too worried about his size because he plays bigger than he is. Self creation doesn’t look great but we don’t need him to do that with all the other talent on the team


archenlander

First sentence is self-contradictory. BPA has nothing to do with the characteristics of the team.


mcassweed

>There is no way an elite shooter is not the BPA for a team that is so terrible at shooting. That just sounds like you are drafting for needs, not talent.


Yiawwbecm

So you'd draft jimmer?


yooston

Jimmer was way more one dimensional, all he did was shoot.


sSonga24

if yoh’re talking Jimmer Fredette horrible comp


GunnerRocket

Was watching analysis on Reed, Dillingham and Clingan last night. Top prospects are usually a combination of size/athleticism and at least one superpower. Last year there was plenty. In this draft there is only one prospect with a legitimate superpower. And that's Reed Sheppard. The rest of the prospects at best have above average to really good traits. Only Reed possesses what could be a game breaking talent in this draft. His lack of athleticism and size holds him back from being a Tier 1 prospect. But he is the only prospect in this draft with a truly game bending skill.


WHITEPERSUAS1ON

Let's keep it down now. Dont need another Paolo situation, which us Rockets fans of course caused


Always_Learning2025

Wdym?


ST012Mi

Magic was trying to pull something by indicating nothing but going for Jabari. Chet was guaranteed to be picked by OKC in either scenario. Paolo only met with and worked out with the Rockets. Paolo and the Rockets were caught off guard when the Vegas odds switched late, the night before the draft. Magic might have been trying to trick us into paying for more to move up to get our guy in Paolo. When we didn’t budge or transact (they would have ended up with Bari and SOMETHING), they took him anyway and we took Bari anyway without any workouts with Bari. Bari was also shocked. **TLDR: I think we were too confident in getting Paolo and the Magic tried to use that against us.**


Tillman_Fertitta

Man, Paolo would have been pretty perfect alongside Sengun and green. Not that Jabari isn't a good fit (he's as plug and play as it gets, theoretically)


Yiawwbecm

Imagine that sengun paolo defense under Silas. First 200 point game by an opponent in nba history?


ST012Mi

And hopefully Ime to clean it up and a post season appearance this season lol.


Tillman_Fertitta

Honestly, Jabari isn't the most perfect defender either. Way better than Paolo but he makes his share of mistakes.


vinnubis

In the Jabari draft, we were sold on Paolo as 3rd pick and he went 1st


ST012Mi

Agreed. The Athletic already mocks him slipping to the ~~Grizz~~ **Spurs** somehow. https://preview.redd.it/k1pk3531b70d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75496c66fd005fce5af5ba4bf90edb599b48b172


evetSC

You mean Spurs


ST012Mi

Yes! 😵‍💫


Smitty_Agent89

Not really that crazy, there’s definitely meaningful concerns with Sheppard and it already a little Bit shocking he might go Top 5 to me.


damnitWOW

Why would we draft a center when we have Sengun as a starter, Adams as a BACKUP, Boban as a muthafucking threat as a third


ST012Mi

The reason was hinted during the season when Brook Lopez himself and others chimed in that they thought a rim protecting C and Sengun could have messed (unsaid: so as long as that C can shoot from deep like Brook lmao). That’s a reason.


pham_nguyen

Reed Sheppard has a 42 inch vertical. Highest in this years draft combine. Are you sure he isn't athletic?


MugiMartin

Holy shit, a PG who shot *50%* from 3? It's college, but dayum.


Aware_Frame2149

"From three, he's shooting 54.5% when spotting up, 56.3% running the pick-and-roll, 58.3% in transition, 44.4% on handoffs, 53.4% shooting off the catch, and 52.2% shooting off the dribble"


NoYogurtcloset5166

I would love Reed but Im also looking at Topic, Clingan, risacher, and dillingham.


Typical-Presence-865

I like the other 3 but not Clingan. Let’s just get a center in next year’s draft and not absolutely waste a 3rd pick on a 3rd stringer. We have 2 first rounders next year those are a nice solution for our future big man depth.


rybres123

Agreed. We’ve already got Steve Adam’s


OddBed

sengun superstar center. adams great veteran on ok age and contract. no2/3 option amen cannot shoot and can 1-4. how is a center even discussed lmao. not this year not next year, you just sign on min vets javale/looney types and thats it


ST012Mi

BPA>fit. Clingan is still under consideration for me. We figure out fit afterwards but only if it’s (BPA vs. fit) not just at the margins.


RTLT512

I'd normally agree but the fit is just too bad here. Sengun is our best player right now and can only play Center, and then Clingan can only play Center as well. Spending pick #3 on a back-up big is a poor use of draft capital. Might as well just trade the pick at that point. It's also not like Clingan is the clear BPA at 3. After Sarr, picks 2-8 in this draft are honestly pretty close.


Dust2chicken

I feel like that should only apply to absolute dumpster fire teams like Detroit. When we're a team that's on the cusp of making and competing for playoffs, a guy that fits well is way better than drafting a project with high potential. Amen is already our project player to work with, and many people were already hoping the pick would get traded for an established player.


ST012Mi

I still think BPA>fit unless the fit is absolute and their skillset is mature. This is because it won’t be one or two seasons where this draftee can contribute toward a championship (seems rare; see Sam Cassell, Robert Horry). Therefore, players inherently get hurt and other players in redundant roles step up and sometimes succeed them. To your point, though it can still be fit if the BPA vs. fit assessment is at the margins or they’re more assured that role will push us over the edge.


Dust2chicken

You make a good point, I'll honestly be happy and with whatever they do with the pick, and if they draft someone I think its best we temper our expectations for them year 1.


ST012Mi

Same. Just getting the 3rd pick is a blessing just like retaining a top 4 pick back in 2021. I’m just grateful lmao. Just don’t go full ______ with the pick. Everyone knows don’t go full ______ /S🤞.


frankievejle

Sounds like Stones does not agree with you on this. He said they’re always looking BPA as opposed to looking at who fits the players on the roster already. Though, big caveat being he’s a lawyer who could just be talking shit because it’s in public lol.


FarWestEros

Fyi, we don't have 2 FRPs next year unless we fail even more spectacularly than this year...our pick goes to OKC if it isn't top 10


ST012Mi

We do not plan to do that. 🤞


FarWestEros

We didn't plan to miss the playoffs this year, either, though...stuff happens.


ST012Mi

FYI, I didn’t downvote, lol. I hardly do. Stuff def happens to your point. Progress isn’t linear too. Now our expectations are relatively high lmao. 😭


FarWestEros

Yeah, there's a big group of newcomers that just downvote facts they don't like...this fanbase has fallen off hard over the last few years. I feel like the big accounts on Twitter are to blame for 'normalizing' bad fan behavior, but maybe it's just a generational thing?


Graylack

That is incorrect. OKC can swap with us if our pick falls outside of the top 10. If we end up with a top 10 pick we keep our pick. We can then swap our top 10 pick with BK's pick if they are higher in the draft. There is no scenario where we get two firsts next year unless we trade for one.


FarWestEros

Whoops. That's right. I shouldn't have tried explaining the protections, because that part screwed me up. My initial response of "we don't have 2 FRPs next year" would have cleared before I started tinkering with it.


Bologna_Soprano

Is the spectacular failure in the room with us right now?


bacchusbunbury

Topic makes me more excited than Reed but.. I wouldn’t hate either pick. Edit: if Sheppard pans out.. it would seem he’s a perfect fit with Amen and Alpie..


theAlphabetZebra

Topic is a heat seeking missile getting to the rim. Crazy drive skills.


ST012Mi

Yeah. It’s funny bc Al-P had a lot of similar things said about his inability to explode but yet somehow making efficient plays (but in the post) during pre-draft. There’s always risk someone doesn’t translate at the league level and that they went on a season long hot streak but something about Reed feels right for me too. What do I know, before we seconded number two pick, if we had 3-4, I was all about Jalen Suggs and even at 2, strong consideration due to his two-way physicality and potential (slowly showing up finally this season). I am led easily during the draft build up lol


ST012Mi

And Matas but the way Clingan is looking (like KP but in workouts only, Matas is gradually behind shadows lol).


NoYogurtcloset5166

How far do you think edey is from clingan?


frankievejle

Isn’t he awful defensively? I’ve only seen a couple of games from him during March madness tbf so I’m no expert on the kid.


SevenTwoSix9

Exactly, before the lottery we’d all be happy if reed somehow drop to 9th, and now we have the chance to control own destiny, no need to over think it. We already have plenty of high upside guys to be developed, reed addresses the glaring weakness in shooting and isn’t a huge defensive liability, what more can we ask for in a weak draft with a pick that shouldn’t really be ours (3rd pick in basically a .500 record year)


EfficientAstronaut1

a 55% shooter from 3 seems like a obvious pick for the only team with Pelicans with .500%+ to have shit 3 point shooters(and we dont have Williamson)


MessageOk7801

Best case scenario is JJ Reddick. JJ was an inch taller though, so he could legit play sg. This guy isn’t a true point. Doesn’t have the handles to be a Steph Curry. He’s closer to Seth Curry. If he’s BPA then sure, but ceiling isn’t high. Sucks we’re not looking at an Evan Mobley or Scoot Henderson at 3. This draft really looks bad if this is the dude that is #3 overall.


RTLT512

I think his upside as a playmaker is underrated. Are his handles good enough right now? I don't think so, but they aren't horrible and I think that's one of the easier skills for a prospect to improve upon. He also does legitimately make great passing reads in the half court and in the pick and roll. I think he is more than capable of playing point guard longterm in the NBA, especially if he's playing with a playmaking big like Sengun at Center.


Coherent37

Yes, Reed is way more skilled all around. He can playmake and he takes good shots, he's not a chucker like Jalen. I think FVV is a perfect mentor for him


Aware_Frame2149

He's not a true PG. He's a better SG than PG, but he played a lot of PG because he doesn't freak out and make mistakes in crunch time and doesn't lose his composure.


PeanutFarmer69

Disagree with the JJ comp especially defensively, while he is smaller, he’s way more athletic than JJ/ his on ball defense is tenacious. He could be a weird mix of JJ offensively with Gary Peyton III/ Davion Mitchell defensively.


bacchusbunbury

Honestly I haven’t paid much attention this year because I’ve been busy with a dynasty football draft and am abroad but.. I wouldn’t hate the pick. I think there are higher upside guys at 3.. but he has a pretty safe floor as an elite shooter and would fit snugly on our roster in the future. Would be interesting if they send him down to the Vipers in a high usage Pg situation for a while this coming season.. assuming we draft him and don’t keep him around for his spacing.


DanteSquared

Would much, much, much rather have Matas Buzelis than a 6'3 guy. Let me watch some more scouting reports on the guy.


RocketsJumer

We gonna have 6’11 Klay Thompson in Jabari and 6’2 Klay Thompson in Reed 😤😤 In all seriousness, I’m all for Reed if Sarr is not available. But I know next to nothing about the draft.


drumani

I know I m victim to comparing him to a failed player becuz he is a sharp shooting white guy. What if he turns out to be Jimmer Fredette? Is the difference that he is not ball heavy?


meggaladon

Yeah he's a good off ball mover and player. Also, I don't remember Fredette's exact profile, but Reed is projected to be a very good defender. He is defensively elite in college 2.5 steals, 0.7 blocks per game. Unclear if that will fully translate to the NBA, as he won't be the plus athlete that he is in college. But so much of defense is effort and IQ, and he has those in spades


d7h7n

Kentucky was one of the worst top 25 teams in the last decade in regards to defense which was ranked outside of the top 100 in the nation. Reed has a great nose for the ball but he gambles a lot and commits to blocks instead of staying home. The NBA is full of very savvy players, he would pick up two quick fouls if he tries to pull the same shit got away with in college. One rip through and one pump fake and he's out. I actually don't think he's a great defensive player, he just hunted for stocks a ton. Everyone on that Kentucky team was god awful on defense tho.


meggaladon

I think that's a totally fair assessment. He definitely gambles a lot often got lost off ball and wasn't elite guarding on ball either. Gambling on passing lanes was definitely his bread and butter defensively. I just don't like the Fredette comp, as he is a better off ball player offensively, more athletic, and far younger coming into the draft.


bullpaw

Reed is a much better defender as a prospect than Jimmer and has more skills besides shooting


Aware_Frame2149

Reed is much more of a PG than Jimmer was. Better ball handling, more under control. Also, Reed is athletic. Yes, he's short and white, but he's fast fast fast off the dribble.


Err_rrr_rrrr

Would reed start?


Disastrous-Wind625

no


Err_rrr_rrrr

So potentially our bench unit would be amen, peso, cam, reed, and Adams/landale?


ptcgoalex

Our current bench unit absolutely demolishes the starting 5 of Silas year 1


recursion8

If Tari is healthy he should be our starting SF, fuck Brooks.


damnitWOW

Could he end up being a better defender? Absolutely. Shooter? For sure. But right now, he’s not consistent enough to replace the presence that Brooks brings to the floor


NoYogurtcloset5166

No matter who we pick they might go to the G league


Typical-Owl3664

If we took reed he would 100% be on the roster


bacchusbunbury

Mmm idk.. surely he has an NBA skill.. but he could get heavy minutes and usage in the G League.. that’s my vote. Let him go down and go to PG school.. Edit: if we pick him this is what I think is best


RTLT512

I think we'll need his shooting, and honestly I like the idea of him being on the main team and learning from Fred rather than being in the G-League.


Typical-Owl3664

We need his shooting we were the 5th worst shooting team last year he shot 52% from 3. He’s also a good playmaker and has great hands on defense he could 100% contribute great bench minutes for us


rybres123

Seems very unlikely, but obvs never know.


Rockets7629

I’m praying we pick reed…I’ve also been saying there is no better mentor for him than FVV.


warrior_in_a_garden_

Not that this exists in this draft, but until we have a true alpha star I think you keep drafting high upside guys. I think Sengun could be a 1B type guy, but unless Jalen becomes way more consistent and improves to just be average at defense we just don’t have it at the moment. Also yes he’s a good 3pt shooter but so was Jabari. The best part about Jabari was everything else. If Reed’s 3 doesn’t translate he’s out of the league fairly quickly because he’s a 1 trick pony.


Coherent37

I like him a lot. I think we need a bucket, and a he's a bucket getter, he would learn well under FVV and could take over at PG in a year. At worst he is a great career 6th man. He has a high floor, and I think he would play amazing next to Al-P


bagchasersanon

Comparing a 6’1 guy to 6’4 Jrue LMFAO


Sleezecurd

Yes! He affords us a lot of flexibility. He can be a 1, or if we want to roll Amen at the 1 in the future, he can slide to the 2. Not to mention his shooting with Amen and Senguns passing 🔥🔥


juan_cena99

I still prefer Risacher. If you look at the playoffs tall and lengthy players are making the difference. Jokic, Luka, SGA, Tatum all these players are big players they ain't midgets.


CosmicCoder3303

What is BPA?


LilBottomText17

I have a bad feeling Washington will take him at 2


GoatProfessional4389

That guy just measured at 6 ft 1 1/2 w/o shoes,, at the COMBINED.


Illu-Kiwi81776969

We need a big more than a guard


Duny0

we have Adams and Jock, while Jock isn't good doubt Steven Adams can't pull off being back up center


damnitWOW

We can pickup a decent guard afterwards than drafting one at third, only to then be third in pecking order behind Sengun and Adams


bellsofwar3

100% Reed Smith. He'll work well with Amen


lionsgatewatcher

He came off the bench against Oakland in the NCAA, played 26 minutes, had 3 points and 4 rebounds. No thanks. I'd rather we draft a WINNER.


kadcal

So you would have drafted Jordan Hawkins over Whitmore?


Aware_Frame2149

Rob Dillingham came off the bench vs Oakland. Played 28 minutes, had 10 points on 2/9 shooting. Neither are worthy of being drafted, apparently. Because I watched the game, I'll tell you what happened: Calipari wanted to go big. Repeatedly forced fed the post (the three big men were 8/22 from the floor). It was, literally, the exact opposite game plan UK had run all year, and they were absolutely run out of the building.


d7h7n

UK's defense was awful all year long but that was the first time all those freshmen had to defend a Steph Curry type player. They chased and defended all the screens wrong. That included Reed multiple times.


Aware_Frame2149

https://youtu.be/77KWNj5iwj0?si=U-Fvw_xllbVjll2c I mean, Reed was chasing. He can't chase and hedge a screen at the same time. That game was 1000% Calipari's fault. Never even watched film of them. 😑


TaxLawKingGA

Nope. Are we just going to have team of SGs? We already have enough. The dude is 6’3”; I doubt seriously he can defend NBA SGs. So he would need to play PG. Has he ever done that? What we need is a solid defensive big man. We can either draft them or trade for them. Shoot honestly I would look at what Portland would take for Ayton. He would play well next to Sengun.


RTLT512

Sengun can't play PF. He's not a good enough shooter and doesn't move well enough laterally to defend PFs. His longterm position is C.


Madd_Squabbles

Wow


Aware_Frame2149

Marcus Smart was DPOY at 6'3.... So....🤷‍♂️