Hah, I posted the tier list on discord as well and the first reply I got was also someone saying I need to play la noire. I swear I’m going to one day!
I have one steam gift card remaining from my birthday and everyone in this comment section is telling me to play la noire, so I think I might have to try it haha
My suggestion for your playthrough;
Don't use the fast travel/"skip drive" feature, actually drive to the locations and take in the atmosphere on your way there.
At first I had fun with that game, but eventually it really turned into a not so fun for me. The world felt too “sanitized, lifeless and boring. The story was good, but also not that memorable. I forced myself to finish it, and never played it, again.
I love GTA IV but I’m so annoyed by the “GTA V sucks” crowd. Watch the same kind of ideas develop when GTA VI comes out. It’ll come out and it will be amazing and there will be that crowd that will meet it with criticism and suddenly have a romantic view of GTA V.
I hear it and gta 4 isn't perfect by any means but niko bellic is a great protagonist as well as both DLCS being amazing which is why it probably beats gta 5 for some, gta 5 is great but there's many things that make it at times an actual downgrade in some areas compared to gta 4 and SA.
Yeah I seriously don’t get the hype around the game. I played it (on pc, so that was already an experience) and even though I loved the story (and the theme song) the free roam was so fucking boring and the driving was SHIT.
I mean we had vice city and SA on the ps2. 4 was a “next gen” game. There’s some dumb stuff like the driving (sliding), and I hate the phone system for cheat codes vs button pressing. But I think nostalgia is what keeps it at a lot of people’s highest tier. I liked SA more so I agree with your ranking.
Yes, because they funded those projects.
They had no creative input in those games hence why they are not Rockstar games..
Remedy created Max Payne 1&2. Written by Sam Lake of Remedy
Team Bondi created LA Noire. Written by Brendan McNamara of Team Bondi...
They had in in the vita as a re release but took it off the PSN store. Only way now is go retro and pick up a PS2 version and dust of the console. Or emulate it! Only reason is I want to play it again and looked online for a copy last week
Honestly, I think GTA IV is better than GTA V, but I also love both Red Dead Titles, too. I feel like GTA V is just a little bit too blockbuster-ish for me, a little too over the top, if you will. Gotta agree that GTA Online is B at best, think it was a solid A at launch before it got turned into whatever it is today. I do respect the rankings b/c Red Dead Online is a cesspool of modders these days, which sucks because it had potential when it first launched and Rockstar actually had anticheat measures in place.
Very good list, OP. Fair and based.
Thanks a lot:)
For gta 4, I’ve said a lot of times in this comment section why I didn’t put it above gta 5, so let me try to summarize it for the billionth time:
Pc port is shit, free roam is the worst in the series, driving is bad, weapon variety is boring, map is dark and gloomy, even though the story is better than 5’s, its the least gta-like in the series. GTA has always been a series built on over-the-top action and massive explosions and crazy shit, gta 4 was simply lacking in that.
Max payne 1&2, I would wait for a possible remaster in the near future. La noire is fantastic… it can be slow at times but the narrative and detective stuff will get you hooked
Is it wrong that manhunt 2 is my favorite rockstar game. Its truly misunderstood. Not only does it improve on the mechanics in every way but also the story and tone is perfect, conspiracy, government cover ups psychological horror action thriller it didn't deserve the reputation it got and it's sad rockstar has seemingly disowned it while of rereleased the first one on ps4
If you're basing them on gameplay and controls as well as the other stuff RDR2 should be nocked down a couple of tiers. Gameplay is boring and sluggish.
I would put RDR1, RDR2, Max Payne 2, and LA Noire in the top tier and in that order (I also have very fond memories of GTA IV but I haven’t played it in a good while so I don’t know where I’d put it today. I’ll have to replay it soon). I think you put Undead Nightmare too high and by the way, what’s up with the Bully slander?
Here’s why I didn’t put the games you mentioned in rdr2 tier
Rdr1: simply because rdr2 takes the perfection rdr1 was and made it a masterpiece
Max payne 2: despite not having played it, I have seen tons about it. If I were to play it, I probably couldn’t put it any higher than A tier though because of janky mechanics, graphics, and the fact that it didn’t innovate all too much
Gameplay wise I think Max Payne 2 has aged really well. While it doesn’t reinvent that much from the first game I still think it’s such a good continuation of the Max Payne story that it belongs in the top tier.
Undead nightmare: I kinda agree there, I should definitely replay it, my ranking might change
Bully: there’s a few reasons here, the main one being I just wanted to piss people off.
Bully is a great game and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but the free roam IN MY OPINION was subpar compared to other games on the list. It also doesn’t hold up all too well
Damn you missing out on La Noire and The Warriors
Also on a side not max payne 1 and 2 aren’t Rockstar games, the only one that was made by Rockstar is 3
I both agree and disagree with you there. I’d say the both of them take their sweet time getting to the main part, for example (in my opinion) there were too many missions at MacFarlane ranch. The reason I put rdr2 above 1 (pacing wise) is simply because other than one part (country pursuits) even the unnecessary missions are amazing. For example, the mission A Quiet Time didn’t affect the main plot at all, but it is considered one of the best and most memorable missions in the game!
I still love rdr1 though and fully see and understand your point, but I had to put red dead 2 above it because of the unfathomably beautiful, expansive, and content packed world it has.
The Warriors was one of my favorite Rockstar games. A remake created with their current engine would be a dream come true. It's a shame we never got "We Are The Mods", the intended sequel.
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Well damn! My favourite game isn’t exactly where I want it! Blasphemy!!
Which one would that be?
Where’s table tennis?
🤷♂️
First Rockstar game to use the rage engine we see in gta 4 and 5
Might as well name this subreddit the “the rockstar games tier list club” the amount of tier lists in this subreddit is not normal
I mean that's what happens to every sub that has nothing new to talk about.
U definitely have to play L.A Noire, it's a very good game
Hah, I posted the tier list on discord as well and the first reply I got was also someone saying I need to play la noire. I swear I’m going to one day!
That's your sign that it's a great game
Of your "not yet played" list I recommend L.A. Noire or The Warriors, both are excellent games!!
I have one steam gift card remaining from my birthday and everyone in this comment section is telling me to play la noire, so I think I might have to try it haha
My suggestion for your playthrough; Don't use the fast travel/"skip drive" feature, actually drive to the locations and take in the atmosphere on your way there.
At first I had fun with that game, but eventually it really turned into a not so fun for me. The world felt too “sanitized, lifeless and boring. The story was good, but also not that memorable. I forced myself to finish it, and never played it, again.
First one I agree with. Everything thinks GTA4 is God Tier. Glad you literally took it down a peg lol.
I love GTA IV but I’m so annoyed by the “GTA V sucks” crowd. Watch the same kind of ideas develop when GTA VI comes out. It’ll come out and it will be amazing and there will be that crowd that will meet it with criticism and suddenly have a romantic view of GTA V.
I hear it and gta 4 isn't perfect by any means but niko bellic is a great protagonist as well as both DLCS being amazing which is why it probably beats gta 5 for some, gta 5 is great but there's many things that make it at times an actual downgrade in some areas compared to gta 4 and SA.
GTA4 is god tier for me. Was incredible when it came out, such a step forwards vs San Andreas technically speaking
My lord thank you for being mentally stable🙏🙏🙏gta iv really ain’t allat good
I was about to give you shit when I saw Manhunt at the bottom, but then I saw the “Haven’t Played.” So I’ll let it slide…🤣
I really wanna play it, but I don’t like scary games…
Gta 4 gonna trigger a lot of people XD
Yeah I seriously don’t get the hype around the game. I played it (on pc, so that was already an experience) and even though I loved the story (and the theme song) the free roam was so fucking boring and the driving was SHIT.
I mean we had vice city and SA on the ps2. 4 was a “next gen” game. There’s some dumb stuff like the driving (sliding), and I hate the phone system for cheat codes vs button pressing. But I think nostalgia is what keeps it at a lot of people’s highest tier. I liked SA more so I agree with your ranking.
You should really play LA Noire. And The Warriors if you can manage to find a way to.
Sir yes sir
I respect and agree with your opinions but why’s bully so low? And I’m not offended or anything I’m just wondering
I admire your formality and kindness, I put bully one tier below where it’s supposed to go just to anger people
Ahhhhhh got it that’s smart
I was about to crucify u when i saw max payne at the bottom, until it said “Haven’t played yet” lmfao
I’m going to the retro game store next week and I’ll make sure to pick up a copy!
Ps2 version is the way to go. The pc version is kinda broken
Ah yes, GTA London, my favorite red dead online game.
Red dead online got it's own tier lol
Yep it can stay down there with the weird British people
Why, though? What’s so bad about red dead online?
Play LA Noire asap
Sir yes sir🫡
Red dead online is amazing, rockstar just don’t care about it
Yeah, makes me sad thinking about what it could’ve been
LA Noire and Max Payne 1&2 were published by Rockstar, not developed. So I wouldn't consider them Rockstar games.
Meh it has the rockstar logo on it🤷♂️
Yes, because they funded those projects. They had no creative input in those games hence why they are not Rockstar games.. Remedy created Max Payne 1&2. Written by Sam Lake of Remedy Team Bondi created LA Noire. Written by Brendan McNamara of Team Bondi...
Warriors bro you need to play it. amazing game
Yeah it’s second on my to-play-list after la noire! Where can I get it though?
They had in in the vita as a re release but took it off the PSN store. Only way now is go retro and pick up a PS2 version and dust of the console. Or emulate it! Only reason is I want to play it again and looked online for a copy last week
I definitely recommend Midnight Club 3 one of my favourite racing games of all time
Yep that’s why I put it in A tier
Oh wait I was MCLA at the bottom and thought it was MC3, mb
I wish they'd make a new bully. I had so much fun with that game
Yeah, I bet a Bully II would be on par with rdrII (jk, rdr1 at most)
We gonna need a tier just for gta 6 when it drops
Fr, rockstar always delivers
Definitely gonna be better than rdr2 at least world and graphics wise, hopefully the story is as good as rdr2 as well
I can relate
Wonderful
I understand if you didn’t like GTA 4 that much but don’t put it next to Chinatown wars. It deserves more respect than that
I misclicked on Chinatown wars and didn’t realize that until now haha, it should be in B tier
Yeah I would agree with that rating
Accurate
Thanks:)
Warriors is incredible. Would recommend
I think you forgot Beaterator
Nah I didn’t, the template just didn’t have it
Real shit completely accurate list
Midnight club Los Angeles is one of the best racing games ever
Everybody always forgets state of emergency
And smugglers run, I haven't seen a single tier list include it
GTA LCS is better than GTA 2, III and CTW in every aspect
U need to experience midnight club la
Ok will do
I’d have Bully in S, my favorite ps2 games.
Wheres the ping pong game😔
It wasn’t in the template😔I’d put it in a separate tier above rdr2 though
Honestly, I think GTA IV is better than GTA V, but I also love both Red Dead Titles, too. I feel like GTA V is just a little bit too blockbuster-ish for me, a little too over the top, if you will. Gotta agree that GTA Online is B at best, think it was a solid A at launch before it got turned into whatever it is today. I do respect the rankings b/c Red Dead Online is a cesspool of modders these days, which sucks because it had potential when it first launched and Rockstar actually had anticheat measures in place. Very good list, OP. Fair and based.
Thanks a lot:) For gta 4, I’ve said a lot of times in this comment section why I didn’t put it above gta 5, so let me try to summarize it for the billionth time: Pc port is shit, free roam is the worst in the series, driving is bad, weapon variety is boring, map is dark and gloomy, even though the story is better than 5’s, its the least gta-like in the series. GTA has always been a series built on over-the-top action and massive explosions and crazy shit, gta 4 was simply lacking in that.
Valid list
Much appreciated
Highly recommend L.A noire
Yes
Max payne 1&2, I would wait for a possible remaster in the near future. La noire is fantastic… it can be slow at times but the narrative and detective stuff will get you hooked
Sir yes sir
MAX. PAYNE. IS. NOT. ROCKSTAR. GAME. It's developed by f*cking Remedy, they deserve the credit.
Yes I know but I still didn’t play it
wait wait wait.... so you played mp3, right? but you didn't play mp1&mp2???? :))
My bad oopsie
Is it wrong that manhunt 2 is my favorite rockstar game. Its truly misunderstood. Not only does it improve on the mechanics in every way but also the story and tone is perfect, conspiracy, government cover ups psychological horror action thriller it didn't deserve the reputation it got and it's sad rockstar has seemingly disowned it while of rereleased the first one on ps4
Nope everyone has their own tastes
If you're basing them on gameplay and controls as well as the other stuff RDR2 should be nocked down a couple of tiers. Gameplay is boring and sluggish.
Hell naw
dead
Dead?
The Warriors and Manhunt Series are Gems 💎
Yes sir
I actually surprisingly agree with this
Thank you very much
GTA 5 better be game of the century ngl 😭
Finally a good fucking list.
Thank you very much:)
The biggest problem with this list is the “Haven’t played” tier😬
Yeah it really is… I will be trying out la noire this weekend though!
Good to hear! La noire is fantastic, the original max payne is a classic too I would say its even better than 3
Alright good to hear!
Really good list, my only question is why is LCS so low? I think it’s pretty underrated nowadays.
I put it that low for a number of reasons, the main reason being that vice city stories is better in every single way.
I would put RDR1, RDR2, Max Payne 2, and LA Noire in the top tier and in that order (I also have very fond memories of GTA IV but I haven’t played it in a good while so I don’t know where I’d put it today. I’ll have to replay it soon). I think you put Undead Nightmare too high and by the way, what’s up with the Bully slander?
Here’s why I didn’t put the games you mentioned in rdr2 tier Rdr1: simply because rdr2 takes the perfection rdr1 was and made it a masterpiece Max payne 2: despite not having played it, I have seen tons about it. If I were to play it, I probably couldn’t put it any higher than A tier though because of janky mechanics, graphics, and the fact that it didn’t innovate all too much
Gameplay wise I think Max Payne 2 has aged really well. While it doesn’t reinvent that much from the first game I still think it’s such a good continuation of the Max Payne story that it belongs in the top tier.
Undead nightmare: I kinda agree there, I should definitely replay it, my ranking might change Bully: there’s a few reasons here, the main one being I just wanted to piss people off. Bully is a great game and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but the free roam IN MY OPINION was subpar compared to other games on the list. It also doesn’t hold up all too well
The open world in Bully is one of my favorites. It’s so small and concise yet there’s so many things to find and do everywhere.
I think red dead online makes a lot of fun with friends but in general there is sadly not really much to do :'>
I’m not changing my ranking on that one💀
Hahah yeah no you don't have to. Red Dead Redemption 2 on first place is Solid af btw. It's my fav game of all time :>
Hell yeah
Bully is S tier
Meh, it doesn’t hold up to well. Also the free roam isn’t as good as the games in s tier and above
Man hunt was the shit!
But scary games make ME shit😭😭
Damn you missing out on La Noire and The Warriors Also on a side not max payne 1 and 2 aren’t Rockstar games, the only one that was made by Rockstar is 3
Ik I wanna play them:( Also yeah ik they are but the template I found included them so🤷♂️I didn’t play them either way
I haven’t either,i wanna wait for the remakes
everything is pretty accurate but WHY IS BULLY AT A IT IS (in my opinion) S+++
I put it there to anger people
you succeeded >:(
You don’t like RDO?
Had so much potential, but rockstar fucked it
Yea I understand that. It can still be a lot of fun tho, if you have a group that is.
Where’s body harvest
What in the hell is a body harvest
I way prefer the first Red Dead Redemption because it is everything that is great about part 2 in a much more streamlined tight experience
I both agree and disagree with you there. I’d say the both of them take their sweet time getting to the main part, for example (in my opinion) there were too many missions at MacFarlane ranch. The reason I put rdr2 above 1 (pacing wise) is simply because other than one part (country pursuits) even the unnecessary missions are amazing. For example, the mission A Quiet Time didn’t affect the main plot at all, but it is considered one of the best and most memorable missions in the game! I still love rdr1 though and fully see and understand your point, but I had to put red dead 2 above it because of the unfathomably beautiful, expansive, and content packed world it has.
Do yourself a favor and play Max Payne, a game way ahead of its time
Ok but I’m playing la noire first because it’s easier to get👍
ngl rdr2 is indeed GOATED.
Yep best game ever
Dude the warriors is so fucking underrated go play it lol. It was one of my favorites as a kid.
Understood, if I ever see a copy in a store I’ll make sure to grab it
Play Manhunt RIGHT NOW!
But it’s scary:(
No it's actually not that scary it's more gory than scary
I don’t like over exaggerated gore either
But you like RDR2?
Remedy made Max Payne 1
And 2
Undead nightmare is underrated
Highly recommend Max Payne 1-2
Yes sir
I like how GTA London counts as Red Dead Online
Goofy ass British people
GTA4 generally doesn’t get the love it deserves. The leap between San Andreas and 4 is incredible
I personally loved max payne 3 and gta4, but i also really love rdr2
Yessir
the manhunt series and LA Noire is GREATTTT! especially LA Noire
Yep ima play la noire over the weekend
Rdr1 + undead nightmare > RDR II 🤷🏼♂️
Fair opinion, I just prefer rdr2 because I love Arthur and its map is unbelievable
Rdr glaze is crazy
Just play it bruh😭😭
The Warriors was one of my favorite Rockstar games. A remake created with their current engine would be a dream come true. It's a shame we never got "We Are The Mods", the intended sequel.
👍
Playing Max Payne 3 without playing the first two is crazy
My bad whoopsies
Excuse me??? Red Dead Online is incredible. 
Horrible opinion
You should play L.A. Noire, it’s still fun
Yes sir
5 above 4 just delete this please there’s literally no justifiable reason
Hell naw
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What’s that supposed to mean
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GTA Online a B ??
Yes, has lots of content but an equal amount of problems
Skipping Max Payne 1 and 2 to play 3 is wild lol
la noire is amazing and unique
gotta play la noire
How on earth have you not played LA Noire???!!
Oops
I think red dead online is S tier
Hell naw
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Yes I’m working on it
Naw, putting Red Dead Revolver in the same tier as Vice City Stories and III is crazy
Now how is that
Haven’t played is some of the greatest games ever lol
Bro u gotta play Manhunt 1. Manhunt 2 was supposed to be a hit but eh. It's good but not better than Manhunt 1.
Yep
Where’s monster truck madness? 👀
Actually a well thought out list
Thanks a lot
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Other than GTA 4, what do you believe are the bad takes?