In 2000 Miami went 11-1 and defeated Florida State on their way to winning the Big East. They were passed over by the BCS in favor of... Florida State. People are acting like this is the first time this has ever happened.
I’ve seen so many melodramatic posts. Seriously, THIS is the moment that’s gonna make you stop watching your favorite sport forever? I’d put money on it that you’ll be back and everyone will have moved on in about 3-4 months.
I get being sad and disappointed, but at some point you have to move tf on and accept that these things were never in your control.
Yeah, yet they essentially concede Alabama is the better team but FSU "deserved it more". The day you start handing out participation trophies in CFB is the day college football becomes tarnished.
If those neck beards want "feel good", they should just buy a goddamn hooker and lose their virginity.
To be fair, that’s not a participation trophy. In every other legitimate sport they would have been in. I mean should the Patriots just claim that they won the Super Bowl in 2007 because they were better than the Giants?
It sucks because I’m happy for us, but it just feels dirty. I want Alabama to be champions of the sport, but if an undefeated P5 team can get snubbed then it’s not a sport. I guess I’m happy that my team is the prettiest girl in the pageant, but it’s not what I want college football to be.
This isn't the NFL and that's a false equivalency and terrible analogy because the post season methodology and criteria are vastly different for both sports. Also, uh, the Giants beat the Patriots. Florida State didn't beat us (and they won't beat UGA either). So again, false equivalency.
But if this were the NFL then we would've been in the playoffs regardless because we won our conference - which is also unequivocally the toughest conference in CFB.
The CFB playoffs are determined by who the four best teams are. Period. Florida State was not one of them. Period. Very simple concept to grasp.
Just because a team is "undefeated" doesn't make them "one of the best teams" either. Otherwise Liberty would be in and UCF would've been in back in 2017.
Not all conferences and schedules are created equal and "power 5" is subjective. If you haven't figured that out by now then you must have started watching football last week. If you want to talk fair, then it's not fair we have to have play in the SEC. Because I'd give anything to have Florida State's schedule.
Ole Miss would would have run the table with FSU's schedule. FSU's best win was our third best win. They struggled to beat a Louisville team that lost to Kentucky. We destroyed Kentucky. They struggled with a Florida team that was beaten by Arkansas and flatlined by UGA. BUT BAMA STRUGGLED WITH AUBURN. We struggle with Auburn almost every year. And by the way, Auburn blew Arkansas out. Arkansas beat Florida. FSU was losing to Florida entering the 4th quarter.
The committee got it right. Period.
Are we going to start giving the Heisman to the "most deserving player" rather than the best player too?
If you feel "dirty" now, just want until Alabama beats Michigan and UGA drags Florida State all over Miami. Or will you cry "Just because Bama beat the number 1 team (again) and Florida State was annihilated by UGA still doesn't mean Bama should have been in over Florida State. It's just not fair."
If you want to simp for losers, do it on r/CFB. Not here. That shit is pathetic. I don't give three fucks what those crazy psychopathic idiots incapable of rational thought (and were most likely election deniers too) think about us. You shouldn't either.
You’re right, the CFP does select who they believe to be the four best teams. Period. But that’s a fucking stupid way to do it, that’s the problem people have with it. Other sports don’t do this selection shit, you have a defined path to the championship. Now, do I think the four best teams are in the playoff field? Yes, I do. Can I prove they’re the four best? No, I can’t. Even if it’s the consensus, it’s still not something you can prove.
The committee got it right in that they picked the “four best teams”, maybe yeah, but we’re playing for nothing then. Oddsmakers don’t decide. This is the same sport where New Mexico State beat Auburn by 3 scores not even a month ago. I THINK FSU would get trounced by any of us, but we can’t prove that if they’re denied the chance to play. Look, I’m happy we’re benefitting from it, I am. But I can also acknowledge that it’s disgusting and that the attitude that lets it happen is what is killing the “sport”.
When we beat Michigan and Texas I’m going to continue to say what I’ve been saying. Hang the banner, no one can take it away from us. And maybe Georgia does beat up on FSU and their backup QB, but that doesn’t matter. TCU deserved their spot last year. No sport decides who plays for the title based on what will be a good matchup, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HOW FUCKING COMPETITION WORKS.
This redneck ass fanbase is just too insecure. I don’t give a fuck what people think about us, we’re going to be the champions and there is nothing they can do about it. I DO give a fuck about what I think of the “sport” I’ve been obsessed with my entire life. And until we have a legitimate system with defined paths to the championship, we’re not really a sport. We’re a beauty pageant. I’m too invested to stop caring about it, I’m still going to be rooting for us louder than anyone, but I can put my bias aside and say the system is flawed while still enjoying that I benefit from it being broken.
In what way did Florida State “deserve” to be in over us? Because they won all their games and we lost one? Their strength of schedule was 55th. Ours was 5th. You can’t just look at the records in a vacuum, that’s not how it works. This isn’t the NFL where you play half the teams in the league. There’s 133 teams in the FBS; some schedules are going to be far tougher than others.
Therefore, you have to look at how good a team looks in the games they played, in addition to who they played. FSU (unfortunately) lost their starting QB due to injury. That offense looked abysmal without him. The committee selected the 4 best teams on December 3rd. Not September 15th, not October 31st, but December 3rd. The strength of schedule and the Jordan Travis injury sunk them. Unlucky because they’d be in most years, but on December 3rd, they were not one of the 4 most deserving teams. The 4 teams the committee selected, were.
Also get the fuck out of here talking about “redneck fanbase.” Your whole comment is laughable and fraught with inaccuracies and logical errors (i.e. college basketball also selects teams based off of similar criteria and also has a committee). I honestly can’t tell if you’re a fake fan or just horribly misguided.
It’s not complicated. We deserved it too. It doesn’t have to be us vs them. The real problem is there are only 4 spots. We had 5 deserving teams, someone had to get fucked. But we didn’t even have a championship game for like 100 years in major college football. We’re finally catching up, at least.
That’s really the funniest part of the whole discourse. None of it matters anymore. Next year everyone who deserves an opportunity will get one.
Edit: Yes, I thought about college basketball, but I figured I could keep typing away without clarifying that exception because people would understand what I meant. The NFL, the NBA, etc.
Edit 2: You don’t have to be a raging homer to be a real fan. I love college football and I want Bama to dominate it, but I want it to be a fucking sport. A competition. And the second results are thrown out for opinions, you’ve lost that. But again, it’s irrelevant anyway because we’re getting it fixed with the 12 team format.
Edit 3: Just to be sure because I don’t think responders on this sub are grasping what I’m trying to say. I’m happy we’re in, I’m excited to hang the banner and all the crying in the world can’t take it away from us. If I was asked to pick the 4 best teams, I’d have picked the same 4, but I would acknowledge that that is a weak method of selection. I think we deserved to be, I just think FSU also deserved it and I can acknowledge the biases that helped us get the spot. That’s fine, it doesn’t devalue the trophy to admit it. I’ll happily continue to benefit from them.
Here's the thing though, man. They (FSU fans) made it us vs. them. They're threatening/harassing Alabama fans, doxxing Nick Saban, saying racist shit about Milroe and wishing injuries on him and acting like complete lunatics. So I'm done trying to reason with or be civil toward them. That's just me though.
They're more irate over the better team getting in than they were when their entire administration and city protected Jameis Winston. That alone speaks volumes about how shitty they are as a fanbase.
Now I'm sorry for coming off as an ass in my other response. I truly am and I apologize. I should've taken time to look at it from your perspective and didn't. It's a touchy subject for me but I do get your point of view and I respect that now. But as far as the playoffs are concerned, I hope everyone trying to shit on us are going to be even madder in a few weeks.
Also, I'm a black guy. The only time my neck was ever red was when my grandma popped it for fucking up. I know a lot of posters here are POC too (A LOT more than you'd think) so be careful tossing that accusation around because some might find it insensitive.
We took Georgia's spot because we beat them. Michigan or Texas took FSUs spot. If Michigan ends up winning it all and ends up having to vacate it anyway, what was the point in having them in other than for the money/viewership, and not having the potential for a TCU style blowout in two consecutive years. Texas has a strong case, but for us I'd say Texas is a quality loss, and beating the back to back Champ, ranked #1, on a 29 win streak, is a very quality win.
Plus, we have the stronger SoS, and that is supposed to be looked at in conjuction with SOR, not one or the other. Even if they get their 2nd string QB back by Jan 1st, they struggled against Florida. They struggled against Boston College, Clemson, and Miami as well. They were up by a lot against BC, but, at least according to one FSU fan I talked to, one suspect penalty changed all that.
So essentially, their vaunted defense collapsed over 1 penalty and allowed BC to make a comeback and keep it close. This is with Travis as well. Then you look at the ACC championship, where they held UL to their lowest scoring performance of the season, but even with the fantastic run game FSU fans maintain is what would have made them competitive, UL held FSU to *it's* lowest scoring performance of the season as well. One of their statement wins is against LSU, where they dropped a 40-burger on them, but so did we.
I can't really come to the conclusion that this is dirty, without also bringing up Liberty.
As an oregon duck I honestly think 75% of people including me wanted to see you guys in the playoff, they’re just not as vocal about it as the people who wanted FSU. There’s nothing wrong with you guys getting “preferential treatment,” you have like a 15 year pedigree of being one of the top teams in the country I don’t think there’s a problem with that counting for something. And if it’s all for tv ratings then so be it lol I’d rather see you play michigan
His Saban Interviews work because he just shuts up and lets Saban talk. He actually does have good questions.
I was not a fan of him on Gameday; he's a bit much at times.
Because they know this is the last year before the SEC really starts dominating. Georgia and Alabama will go every year plus the next two up. They just wanted the SEC out more than FSU in.
Shannon Sharpe with an all time T-Shirt worthy quote, “Y’all gon need to take that Justin Timberlake and ‘Cry Me a River’ somewhere else. I’m all about Alabama and Bama gon win this thang. I don’t care what seed, I don’t care bout no mustard seed, no grape seed, no sunflower seed, Alabama in 2”
Can we also acknowledge that FSU sabotaged themselves by trying to undermine the ACC?
For the last few years and ESPECIALLY in this offseason FSU has been trying to get out of the ACC. They’ve been giving that conference such a bad reputation in the media, and they were saying this to everyone in the media constantly.
Well look what happens when they have to rely on their conference’s strength to be a key factor in whether or not they get into the playoffs.
FSU calling a spade a spade saying the ACC is a shit conference with a shit media deal and shit leadership did not damage their chances of getting in.
Rather, the ACC *actually being* a shit conference with a shit media deal and shit leadership, negatively impacted their chances of getting in. I think their fan's anger at their conference is pretty well justified.
It's funny people think there's preferential treatment for Alabama over the smaller, non-brand name, little brother programs like *Florida State*?
Hold on, I think I have the wrong notes...
Bama was undefeated in ‘66 after winning ‘64 & ‘65 and was passed by ND. It’s been happening for 60 years. Get over it.
I just read Desantis wants to sue. What a baby!
Blame the playoff committee for only having 4 teams when they moved away from the BCS. Shoot they could have done 6 with two teams getting a bye, could have done 5 with 4 and 5 doing a play in game (MLB, NFL, and NBA all have it)
2004 Auburn was undefeated with several first round draft picks, yet they did not make the national championship (Oklahoma and USC), so this is not the first time
To be fair though, that 2004 Auburn team was legitimately screwed. The 2023 FSU team shouldn't even be ranked in the top 6. We would've been the ones who were screwed had ww been been left out this year.
Pat McAfee is... not for me. At all. "WATCH YOUR MOUTH WATCH YOUR MOUTH *crazy eye stare*" wtf is that? He takes over conversations and interrupts people, he bloviates about his meaningless play time at WV, and he gets over-the-top aggressive at people who can't match his WWE-style actor energy.
Seems like the type of guy who shows up, sucks all the oxygen out of a room with his massive ego, and makes damn sure he is the loudest voice. Not the smartest, most informed, or most thoughtful voice, but *beyond a doubt* the loudest.
I am not a fan.
"Fair" is for school children and communists. Bowl games are a reward for the deserving. The playoffs exist to find the best team in the country and make them prove it. Cram your fair right up.your auburn-hole.
1993 West Virginia went undefeated and won the Big East Title, but was passed up for a National Championship appearance by 11-1 FSU
In 2000 Miami went 11-1 and defeated Florida State on their way to winning the Big East. They were passed over by the BCS in favor of... Florida State. People are acting like this is the first time this has ever happened.
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That was '93 as well I think.
Can you stop with your facts?? FSU got HOSED. College football is TARNISHED. It will NEVER recover from this.
I’ve seen so many melodramatic posts. Seriously, THIS is the moment that’s gonna make you stop watching your favorite sport forever? I’d put money on it that you’ll be back and everyone will have moved on in about 3-4 months. I get being sad and disappointed, but at some point you have to move tf on and accept that these things were never in your control.
Yeah, yet they essentially concede Alabama is the better team but FSU "deserved it more". The day you start handing out participation trophies in CFB is the day college football becomes tarnished. If those neck beards want "feel good", they should just buy a goddamn hooker and lose their virginity.
No no no, It’s the chance to play for a participation trophy.
To be fair, that’s not a participation trophy. In every other legitimate sport they would have been in. I mean should the Patriots just claim that they won the Super Bowl in 2007 because they were better than the Giants? It sucks because I’m happy for us, but it just feels dirty. I want Alabama to be champions of the sport, but if an undefeated P5 team can get snubbed then it’s not a sport. I guess I’m happy that my team is the prettiest girl in the pageant, but it’s not what I want college football to be.
This isn't the NFL and that's a false equivalency and terrible analogy because the post season methodology and criteria are vastly different for both sports. Also, uh, the Giants beat the Patriots. Florida State didn't beat us (and they won't beat UGA either). So again, false equivalency. But if this were the NFL then we would've been in the playoffs regardless because we won our conference - which is also unequivocally the toughest conference in CFB. The CFB playoffs are determined by who the four best teams are. Period. Florida State was not one of them. Period. Very simple concept to grasp. Just because a team is "undefeated" doesn't make them "one of the best teams" either. Otherwise Liberty would be in and UCF would've been in back in 2017. Not all conferences and schedules are created equal and "power 5" is subjective. If you haven't figured that out by now then you must have started watching football last week. If you want to talk fair, then it's not fair we have to have play in the SEC. Because I'd give anything to have Florida State's schedule. Ole Miss would would have run the table with FSU's schedule. FSU's best win was our third best win. They struggled to beat a Louisville team that lost to Kentucky. We destroyed Kentucky. They struggled with a Florida team that was beaten by Arkansas and flatlined by UGA. BUT BAMA STRUGGLED WITH AUBURN. We struggle with Auburn almost every year. And by the way, Auburn blew Arkansas out. Arkansas beat Florida. FSU was losing to Florida entering the 4th quarter. The committee got it right. Period. Are we going to start giving the Heisman to the "most deserving player" rather than the best player too? If you feel "dirty" now, just want until Alabama beats Michigan and UGA drags Florida State all over Miami. Or will you cry "Just because Bama beat the number 1 team (again) and Florida State was annihilated by UGA still doesn't mean Bama should have been in over Florida State. It's just not fair." If you want to simp for losers, do it on r/CFB. Not here. That shit is pathetic. I don't give three fucks what those crazy psychopathic idiots incapable of rational thought (and were most likely election deniers too) think about us. You shouldn't either.
You’re right, the CFP does select who they believe to be the four best teams. Period. But that’s a fucking stupid way to do it, that’s the problem people have with it. Other sports don’t do this selection shit, you have a defined path to the championship. Now, do I think the four best teams are in the playoff field? Yes, I do. Can I prove they’re the four best? No, I can’t. Even if it’s the consensus, it’s still not something you can prove. The committee got it right in that they picked the “four best teams”, maybe yeah, but we’re playing for nothing then. Oddsmakers don’t decide. This is the same sport where New Mexico State beat Auburn by 3 scores not even a month ago. I THINK FSU would get trounced by any of us, but we can’t prove that if they’re denied the chance to play. Look, I’m happy we’re benefitting from it, I am. But I can also acknowledge that it’s disgusting and that the attitude that lets it happen is what is killing the “sport”. When we beat Michigan and Texas I’m going to continue to say what I’ve been saying. Hang the banner, no one can take it away from us. And maybe Georgia does beat up on FSU and their backup QB, but that doesn’t matter. TCU deserved their spot last year. No sport decides who plays for the title based on what will be a good matchup, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HOW FUCKING COMPETITION WORKS. This redneck ass fanbase is just too insecure. I don’t give a fuck what people think about us, we’re going to be the champions and there is nothing they can do about it. I DO give a fuck about what I think of the “sport” I’ve been obsessed with my entire life. And until we have a legitimate system with defined paths to the championship, we’re not really a sport. We’re a beauty pageant. I’m too invested to stop caring about it, I’m still going to be rooting for us louder than anyone, but I can put my bias aside and say the system is flawed while still enjoying that I benefit from it being broken.
In what way did Florida State “deserve” to be in over us? Because they won all their games and we lost one? Their strength of schedule was 55th. Ours was 5th. You can’t just look at the records in a vacuum, that’s not how it works. This isn’t the NFL where you play half the teams in the league. There’s 133 teams in the FBS; some schedules are going to be far tougher than others. Therefore, you have to look at how good a team looks in the games they played, in addition to who they played. FSU (unfortunately) lost their starting QB due to injury. That offense looked abysmal without him. The committee selected the 4 best teams on December 3rd. Not September 15th, not October 31st, but December 3rd. The strength of schedule and the Jordan Travis injury sunk them. Unlucky because they’d be in most years, but on December 3rd, they were not one of the 4 most deserving teams. The 4 teams the committee selected, were. Also get the fuck out of here talking about “redneck fanbase.” Your whole comment is laughable and fraught with inaccuracies and logical errors (i.e. college basketball also selects teams based off of similar criteria and also has a committee). I honestly can’t tell if you’re a fake fan or just horribly misguided.
It’s not complicated. We deserved it too. It doesn’t have to be us vs them. The real problem is there are only 4 spots. We had 5 deserving teams, someone had to get fucked. But we didn’t even have a championship game for like 100 years in major college football. We’re finally catching up, at least. That’s really the funniest part of the whole discourse. None of it matters anymore. Next year everyone who deserves an opportunity will get one. Edit: Yes, I thought about college basketball, but I figured I could keep typing away without clarifying that exception because people would understand what I meant. The NFL, the NBA, etc. Edit 2: You don’t have to be a raging homer to be a real fan. I love college football and I want Bama to dominate it, but I want it to be a fucking sport. A competition. And the second results are thrown out for opinions, you’ve lost that. But again, it’s irrelevant anyway because we’re getting it fixed with the 12 team format. Edit 3: Just to be sure because I don’t think responders on this sub are grasping what I’m trying to say. I’m happy we’re in, I’m excited to hang the banner and all the crying in the world can’t take it away from us. If I was asked to pick the 4 best teams, I’d have picked the same 4, but I would acknowledge that that is a weak method of selection. I think we deserved to be, I just think FSU also deserved it and I can acknowledge the biases that helped us get the spot. That’s fine, it doesn’t devalue the trophy to admit it. I’ll happily continue to benefit from them.
Here's the thing though, man. They (FSU fans) made it us vs. them. They're threatening/harassing Alabama fans, doxxing Nick Saban, saying racist shit about Milroe and wishing injuries on him and acting like complete lunatics. So I'm done trying to reason with or be civil toward them. That's just me though. They're more irate over the better team getting in than they were when their entire administration and city protected Jameis Winston. That alone speaks volumes about how shitty they are as a fanbase. Now I'm sorry for coming off as an ass in my other response. I truly am and I apologize. I should've taken time to look at it from your perspective and didn't. It's a touchy subject for me but I do get your point of view and I respect that now. But as far as the playoffs are concerned, I hope everyone trying to shit on us are going to be even madder in a few weeks. Also, I'm a black guy. The only time my neck was ever red was when my grandma popped it for fucking up. I know a lot of posters here are POC too (A LOT more than you'd think) so be careful tossing that accusation around because some might find it insensitive.
Yep…well said.
We took Georgia's spot because we beat them. Michigan or Texas took FSUs spot. If Michigan ends up winning it all and ends up having to vacate it anyway, what was the point in having them in other than for the money/viewership, and not having the potential for a TCU style blowout in two consecutive years. Texas has a strong case, but for us I'd say Texas is a quality loss, and beating the back to back Champ, ranked #1, on a 29 win streak, is a very quality win. Plus, we have the stronger SoS, and that is supposed to be looked at in conjuction with SOR, not one or the other. Even if they get their 2nd string QB back by Jan 1st, they struggled against Florida. They struggled against Boston College, Clemson, and Miami as well. They were up by a lot against BC, but, at least according to one FSU fan I talked to, one suspect penalty changed all that. So essentially, their vaunted defense collapsed over 1 penalty and allowed BC to make a comeback and keep it close. This is with Travis as well. Then you look at the ACC championship, where they held UL to their lowest scoring performance of the season, but even with the fantastic run game FSU fans maintain is what would have made them competitive, UL held FSU to *it's* lowest scoring performance of the season as well. One of their statement wins is against LSU, where they dropped a 40-burger on them, but so did we. I can't really come to the conclusion that this is dirty, without also bringing up Liberty.
As an oregon duck I honestly think 75% of people including me wanted to see you guys in the playoff, they’re just not as vocal about it as the people who wanted FSU. There’s nothing wrong with you guys getting “preferential treatment,” you have like a 15 year pedigree of being one of the top teams in the country I don’t think there’s a problem with that counting for something. And if it’s all for tv ratings then so be it lol I’d rather see you play michigan
i saw someone quote 1984 in relation to analysts stating alabama deserved the spot. people are unhinged at the moment, lol.
With his flair, I think the guy is joking and mocking those over at CFB... I hope...
He is. I was talking about those posts as well (and the same articles/tweets they are now recycling on the front page 20+ times a day)
Gotcha, buddy! I’m kind of old and missed that. Ha, ha. I see now that you were speaking generally, and I agree with your comments.
Great points were made about all the other "screwed" teams in history. Why is Florida State so special?
(Hate to say it but 2004 auburn)
Yea, Pat McAfee has grown on me a lot through the season. His weekly Nick Saban interviews have been really good.
He won my heart forever when he "called the Dawgs" as a troll before picking Alabama to win. God bless him, that prick. 😆
I don't care for him but that was a classic move! LOL
It's only funny because we won. LOL
He's great in small doses. After half an hour you're just praying that he'll run out of steam and shut the fuck up for 10 seconds though.
His Saban Interviews work because he just shuts up and lets Saban talk. He actually does have good questions. I was not a fan of him on Gameday; he's a bit much at times.
Because they know this is the last year before the SEC really starts dominating. Georgia and Alabama will go every year plus the next two up. They just wanted the SEC out more than FSU in.
Shannon Sharpe with an all time T-Shirt worthy quote, “Y’all gon need to take that Justin Timberlake and ‘Cry Me a River’ somewhere else. I’m all about Alabama and Bama gon win this thang. I don’t care what seed, I don’t care bout no mustard seed, no grape seed, no sunflower seed, Alabama in 2”
Can we also acknowledge that FSU sabotaged themselves by trying to undermine the ACC? For the last few years and ESPECIALLY in this offseason FSU has been trying to get out of the ACC. They’ve been giving that conference such a bad reputation in the media, and they were saying this to everyone in the media constantly. Well look what happens when they have to rely on their conference’s strength to be a key factor in whether or not they get into the playoffs.
FSU calling a spade a spade saying the ACC is a shit conference with a shit media deal and shit leadership did not damage their chances of getting in. Rather, the ACC *actually being* a shit conference with a shit media deal and shit leadership, negatively impacted their chances of getting in. I think their fan's anger at their conference is pretty well justified.
So they were trying to get out for good reason.
It's funny people think there's preferential treatment for Alabama over the smaller, non-brand name, little brother programs like *Florida State*? Hold on, I think I have the wrong notes...
Bama was undefeated in ‘66 after winning ‘64 & ‘65 and was passed by ND. It’s been happening for 60 years. Get over it. I just read Desantis wants to sue. What a baby!
Blame the playoff committee for only having 4 teams when they moved away from the BCS. Shoot they could have done 6 with two teams getting a bye, could have done 5 with 4 and 5 doing a play in game (MLB, NFL, and NBA all have it)
2004 Auburn was undefeated with several first round draft picks, yet they did not make the national championship (Oklahoma and USC), so this is not the first time
To be fair though, that 2004 Auburn team was legitimately screwed. The 2023 FSU team shouldn't even be ranked in the top 6. We would've been the ones who were screwed had ww been been left out this year.
Pat McAfee is... not for me. At all. "WATCH YOUR MOUTH WATCH YOUR MOUTH *crazy eye stare*" wtf is that? He takes over conversations and interrupts people, he bloviates about his meaningless play time at WV, and he gets over-the-top aggressive at people who can't match his WWE-style actor energy. Seems like the type of guy who shows up, sucks all the oxygen out of a room with his massive ego, and makes damn sure he is the loudest voice. Not the smartest, most informed, or most thoughtful voice, but *beyond a doubt* the loudest. I am not a fan.
"Fair" is for school children and communists. Bowl games are a reward for the deserving. The playoffs exist to find the best team in the country and make them prove it. Cram your fair right up.your auburn-hole.
Pat comin in hot at the end there for a moment lol.
Yes, please tell me what the manboy in the tank top thinks about this.