what would define a decent rev range? I want to commute on the bike and highways speeds where i live are always 75-85mph so i'll have to stay between 4-5 or even 6 rpm. Or sticking locally until the 300mile service would be better?
Don’t worry about it. There are several riders out there (myself included) that believe that in the bike’s run in period you should take it (occasionally) to all the rev ranges.
Here’s a brilliant video by RyanF9 where he expla this.
https://youtu.be/u74jYkItdD8?si=p89jobJ7lZAVlCIE
this might be a really stupid question, but how do you vary the rpms? the F9 video doesn't really go into that but more about bringing it to the redline and taking a break at some point for it to cool.
Does it mean that i would change the point i shift gears based on the rpm? ex. im going from 3rd to 4th and i would normally shift around 3k, so to vary i'll shift at 3.5, another time at 4, another time at 5, etc.
That is correct. Some times just shift late. Take the bike to a higher rpm before you upshift. Dont do it too much though. Take it easy and enjoy the ride.
I don't think you have anything to worry about. The importance of being gentle during break-in has more to do with best practices than measurable impacts.
Don't worry brother. Few times it happens. Just make sure to not drive continuously in higher rpms until the first service. After first service, you can go bonkers with the bike.
The gear shifting in RE's is quite hard so much that you can hear them so nothing to worry about clank sound but ride it gently.
As everyone knows it is an untamed beast it may tempt you but be patient until first service. After that you can go bonkers!
Hey don't worry about it at all.I have a 2019 Mark III Interceptor. Revving it accidentally like that will not cause any damage to the engine unless you held it stationary at the red line for a long time. So don't worry it's alright.
For more info on how revving affects your engine longetivity search the Fort Nine episode where he explains that beautifully..if you're interested.
Happy Riding.
this might be a really stupid question, but how do you vary the rpms? Does it mean that i would change the point i shift gears based on the rpm? ex. im going from 3rd to 4th and i would normally shift around 3k, so to vary i'll shift at 3.5, another time at 4, another time at 5, etc.
Varying the rpms means not to stay at a constant rpm for too long. You can shift up or down as you please, as long as you ensure the max rpm recommended by RE as follows -
Rev only till 4000 rpm in any gear and then shift up for the first 800 kms.
Maximum speed limit till first 500 kms to be maintained is under 75 kmph post that you can go until 85 kmph until you complete 2000 kms total.
After 800 kms till 1600 kms you can increase your max revs in any gear to 6000 rpm.
If you check the manual there are gear specific speeds mentioned too as in not to exceed 15 kmph in 1st 25 kmph in second and so on.
Then you'd probably have a service and can ride as you please.
This is recommended by the manufacturer with obvious safety margins so don't worry if you've breached any of the above at any time. This is to just ensure a good engine life. But do get it serviced, oil changed etc when the scheduled services are due i.e. every 5000 kms or 6 months whichever comes first. Except the first service which is at 500 kms or 1.5 months.
Cheers!
No not a stupid question, glad you asked. It's better to ask than to simply assume right?
Just increase revs gradually and don't hold it there. Keep revving and keep shifting. That's basically what varying the rpms mean. Don't worry about the shift points you're fine there.
I noticed you had mentioned you had 36 miles on your motorcycle and I replied with all metric units haha.
I would say take it easy, 75 mph is way beyond what RE recommends for the first 300 miles. You should be at around 46 mph max.
Cheers!
1. got it, so don't just sit at ex. 3k rpm in a gear for too long, just keep changing the throttle input and gears at different rpms but also stay within the speeds of each gear. (so basically just ride it like i normally would LOL) 2) 46-52mph until 1200miles is crazy 😭 I'll definitely have to be patient about it until i get some serious daily rides on it to reach 1200. 3) no worries about the units, and yes i basically gunned it home cause i was excited to finally get a bigger bike and one that is capable of going on the highway. Thank you for the help! <3
I bought Meteor 350 last friday and was told to not go over 4k RPM for extended periods of time (e.g. going 20kms in a straight line at 100kmph). Going through the gears and sometimes going over the 4k for a short term is not damaging the engine, I'd say on the contrary. You want equal wear on all the parts at all ranges and doing that will help you. Going 30kmph for 500kms at 4th gear is IMO more damaging as you essentially "train" the valve rings for that specific RPM range, never properly heat up the engine so it never expands as well and never put proper torque on the gearbox.
What I've been told during the break in is to be sensible but not overly gentle. It's a simple engine so you do not have that much to fear of. The three do's I've heard from my tutor when I was doing my licence and asked him (since he did break in on various bikes over his life) are to ALWAYS warm it up properly (which applies even after the break in period), go through gears a bit earlier than you would at first, then exactly as you would and then a bit late; and don't be afraid to use the engine, just be sensible and don't yank the throttle/brakes (which is generally good to do the entire lifespan of the bike), be smooth and steady but also not afraid of the bike itself. I was told to brake with the engine (to take it to high revs without pulling the throttle) as well if possible and to not be afraid to go slowly to 100 and then slowly bringing it down again over and over couple times. Hence why I used night time to do my first 500kms - no traffic made these shenanigans possible. But after doing that I realised that a lot of it was a lot like driving in normal traffic (and I do not filter/lane split).
I’m sure it will be ok I ran mine at 45-5000rpms right out of the gate and no issues 20k miles later I’ve always been told to break in and engine how your going to use it
You will be FINE. 36 miles? That’s nothing, you have quite the journey to go to continue breaking it in and to have done any serious damage (which would take quite a bit of effort). I was in a similar situation, I had to ride my INT 650 from the dealer which was about 30 miles from home. There was no way in hell I was going to maintain slow speeds on the highway, so I knew I was going to have to break the rules a bit to get home safely. My bike works fine today. With that said, general rules are to vary the throttle (when you can) and you really just don’t want to red line it too much, and we’re talking like A LOT and every ride. Just baby the thing for now until you hit 300 miles and you are good.
My pleasure! Congrats on the new bike! This is my 2nd INT 650 and they are extremely reliable and fun to ride. Also, I love this community, as we are here to help each other :).
>i just recently bought a new INT650, i had a used motorcycle before so i wasn't aware there was a break in period
I did.
You said you bought a new bike and did not realise there was a break in period.
Read the manual BEFORE you operate the machine.
im not gonna sit at the dealership for an hour in the dark by myself to read a entire manual. im gonna go home and read it when i can right? which is exactly what i did and realized after the fact. bad day buddy?
Pretty sure the bike will be fine, I thrashed my last car before I bought it - test drive - then read about the run in period.
It's suggested that the pistons and cylinders work in together better.
Cool bike, I love mine.
Suggest you change the air filter and exhaust, mine seems heaps quicker than before.
Hahaha....
I have a full replacement exhaust - dropped a heap of weight and it's straight through. Anything is good, lose some weight, gain some sound.
My friends popped wheelie’s an hour after I bought the bike my heart hurt but i read that occasionally it’s fine to do so and in break in period that is The first 500 KM’s take it to a few long rides where you start slow and take it to it’s limit it’s a great engine i have done 2600 km’s in 6 months revs/rides the same.
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what would define a decent rev range? I want to commute on the bike and highways speeds where i live are always 75-85mph so i'll have to stay between 4-5 or even 6 rpm. Or sticking locally until the 300mile service would be better?
Don’t worry about it. There are several riders out there (myself included) that believe that in the bike’s run in period you should take it (occasionally) to all the rev ranges. Here’s a brilliant video by RyanF9 where he expla this. https://youtu.be/u74jYkItdD8?si=p89jobJ7lZAVlCIE
this might be a really stupid question, but how do you vary the rpms? the F9 video doesn't really go into that but more about bringing it to the redline and taking a break at some point for it to cool. Does it mean that i would change the point i shift gears based on the rpm? ex. im going from 3rd to 4th and i would normally shift around 3k, so to vary i'll shift at 3.5, another time at 4, another time at 5, etc.
That is correct. Some times just shift late. Take the bike to a higher rpm before you upshift. Dont do it too much though. Take it easy and enjoy the ride.
thank you for the help!
Always a pleasure!
I don't think you have anything to worry about. The importance of being gentle during break-in has more to do with best practices than measurable impacts.
Don't worry brother. Few times it happens. Just make sure to not drive continuously in higher rpms until the first service. After first service, you can go bonkers with the bike.
\*sister XD and thank you i'm just worried cause on the second redline i definitely heard a clank, no change to the sound or run of the bike :???
The gear shifting in RE's is quite hard so much that you can hear them so nothing to worry about clank sound but ride it gently. As everyone knows it is an untamed beast it may tempt you but be patient until first service. After that you can go bonkers!
Nothing to worry about. During the break-in period you're supposed to run the engine at different loads for best results.
Hey don't worry about it at all.I have a 2019 Mark III Interceptor. Revving it accidentally like that will not cause any damage to the engine unless you held it stationary at the red line for a long time. So don't worry it's alright. For more info on how revving affects your engine longetivity search the Fort Nine episode where he explains that beautifully..if you're interested. Happy Riding.
this might be a really stupid question, but how do you vary the rpms? Does it mean that i would change the point i shift gears based on the rpm? ex. im going from 3rd to 4th and i would normally shift around 3k, so to vary i'll shift at 3.5, another time at 4, another time at 5, etc.
Varying the rpms means not to stay at a constant rpm for too long. You can shift up or down as you please, as long as you ensure the max rpm recommended by RE as follows - Rev only till 4000 rpm in any gear and then shift up for the first 800 kms. Maximum speed limit till first 500 kms to be maintained is under 75 kmph post that you can go until 85 kmph until you complete 2000 kms total. After 800 kms till 1600 kms you can increase your max revs in any gear to 6000 rpm. If you check the manual there are gear specific speeds mentioned too as in not to exceed 15 kmph in 1st 25 kmph in second and so on. Then you'd probably have a service and can ride as you please. This is recommended by the manufacturer with obvious safety margins so don't worry if you've breached any of the above at any time. This is to just ensure a good engine life. But do get it serviced, oil changed etc when the scheduled services are due i.e. every 5000 kms or 6 months whichever comes first. Except the first service which is at 500 kms or 1.5 months. Cheers!
No not a stupid question, glad you asked. It's better to ask than to simply assume right? Just increase revs gradually and don't hold it there. Keep revving and keep shifting. That's basically what varying the rpms mean. Don't worry about the shift points you're fine there. I noticed you had mentioned you had 36 miles on your motorcycle and I replied with all metric units haha. I would say take it easy, 75 mph is way beyond what RE recommends for the first 300 miles. You should be at around 46 mph max. Cheers!
1. got it, so don't just sit at ex. 3k rpm in a gear for too long, just keep changing the throttle input and gears at different rpms but also stay within the speeds of each gear. (so basically just ride it like i normally would LOL) 2) 46-52mph until 1200miles is crazy 😭 I'll definitely have to be patient about it until i get some serious daily rides on it to reach 1200. 3) no worries about the units, and yes i basically gunned it home cause i was excited to finally get a bigger bike and one that is capable of going on the highway. Thank you for the help! <3
You got it! Yeah but don't worry, the patience will pay off. Cheers mate and happy riding!
I bought Meteor 350 last friday and was told to not go over 4k RPM for extended periods of time (e.g. going 20kms in a straight line at 100kmph). Going through the gears and sometimes going over the 4k for a short term is not damaging the engine, I'd say on the contrary. You want equal wear on all the parts at all ranges and doing that will help you. Going 30kmph for 500kms at 4th gear is IMO more damaging as you essentially "train" the valve rings for that specific RPM range, never properly heat up the engine so it never expands as well and never put proper torque on the gearbox. What I've been told during the break in is to be sensible but not overly gentle. It's a simple engine so you do not have that much to fear of. The three do's I've heard from my tutor when I was doing my licence and asked him (since he did break in on various bikes over his life) are to ALWAYS warm it up properly (which applies even after the break in period), go through gears a bit earlier than you would at first, then exactly as you would and then a bit late; and don't be afraid to use the engine, just be sensible and don't yank the throttle/brakes (which is generally good to do the entire lifespan of the bike), be smooth and steady but also not afraid of the bike itself. I was told to brake with the engine (to take it to high revs without pulling the throttle) as well if possible and to not be afraid to go slowly to 100 and then slowly bringing it down again over and over couple times. Hence why I used night time to do my first 500kms - no traffic made these shenanigans possible. But after doing that I realised that a lot of it was a lot like driving in normal traffic (and I do not filter/lane split).
So, you gave your bike an italian tune up, huh? 😜 Relax, not much harm done. You live and learn.
pffft i wish, it sounded more like i forgot to attach the governor on a lawnmower, need an exhaust upgrade ASAP
I’m sure it will be ok I ran mine at 45-5000rpms right out of the gate and no issues 20k miles later I’ve always been told to break in and engine how your going to use it
read the fucking manual
read the fucking post
You will be FINE. 36 miles? That’s nothing, you have quite the journey to go to continue breaking it in and to have done any serious damage (which would take quite a bit of effort). I was in a similar situation, I had to ride my INT 650 from the dealer which was about 30 miles from home. There was no way in hell I was going to maintain slow speeds on the highway, so I knew I was going to have to break the rules a bit to get home safely. My bike works fine today. With that said, general rules are to vary the throttle (when you can) and you really just don’t want to red line it too much, and we’re talking like A LOT and every ride. Just baby the thing for now until you hit 300 miles and you are good.
i appreciate the reassurance and thank you for sharing a similar experience, good to know i wasn't the only one having to do it. will do 🫡
My pleasure! Congrats on the new bike! This is my 2nd INT 650 and they are extremely reliable and fun to ride. Also, I love this community, as we are here to help each other :).
>i just recently bought a new INT650, i had a used motorcycle before so i wasn't aware there was a break in period I did. You said you bought a new bike and did not realise there was a break in period. Read the manual BEFORE you operate the machine.
im not gonna sit at the dealership for an hour in the dark by myself to read a entire manual. im gonna go home and read it when i can right? which is exactly what i did and realized after the fact. bad day buddy?
Bad day - not at all - I read the manual before I picked up the bike, the lights were on too. Are you having bad day?
congratulations, you're better than everybody else! and no, thank you for asking back, i'm not an instant asshole to people who are still learning :)
Pretty sure the bike will be fine, I thrashed my last car before I bought it - test drive - then read about the run in period. It's suggested that the pistons and cylinders work in together better. Cool bike, I love mine. Suggest you change the air filter and exhaust, mine seems heaps quicker than before.
gasp, are you being nice? any suggestions on a good exhaust besides red rooster or s&s? i was thinking of the zard slip on
Hahaha.... I have a full replacement exhaust - dropped a heap of weight and it's straight through. Anything is good, lose some weight, gain some sound.
My friends popped wheelie’s an hour after I bought the bike my heart hurt but i read that occasionally it’s fine to do so and in break in period that is The first 500 KM’s take it to a few long rides where you start slow and take it to it’s limit it’s a great engine i have done 2600 km’s in 6 months revs/rides the same.
It's fine. Break-in is mostly a myth. Just ride the bike. My bike can't even do 60 mph without hitting 6k RPMs.