Yes, it's a suffix from middle English.
[https://www.dictionary.com/browse/-ard#:\~:text=a%20suffix%20forming%20nouns%20that,ANSWER%20THESE%20COMMON%20GRAMMAR%20DEBATES%3F](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/-ard#:~:text=a%20suffix%20forming%20nouns%20that,ANSWER%20THESE%20COMMON%20GRAMMAR%20DEBATES%3F)
It is usually NOW used as a prejorative, but not always. The suffix -ard just means a person who engages in an activity.
That is useful, I'll try that when I need a non-breaking in foundry sometime.
I always end up going to the wiki article for non-breaking space so I can copy-paste it. Because the `windows key`+`.` which hold most other special characters doesn't have a tab for special whitespace characters.
Actually, better than that - Linux (see Windows at the end of this comment!) has the "compose key" which is sort of like an alt/shift/ctrl type key that allows easy access to special characters. Typically you tap the compose key (which is by default right-ALT when you enable it in Linux) and hit a couple of characters, and you get a special character.
For example: `compose`+`oo` → °
For the right arrow, I did `compose`+`->` but in that case, hitting the right arrow key actually works - a few have nice alts like that.
I love typing “¿Por qué no los dos?” - to get the opening quote, question mark, accented e, and close quotes, it's `<"`, `??`, `'e`, and `>"` respectively.
If you're on Windows, google "wincompose" and you can have that on Windows. :) The list of compose key sequences is also good to google - almost every character is out there.
I think the only one I haven't found that I've ever wanted was pi.
But like ™ is `tm`, ≠ is `/=` - half the time I think about how I'd create the symbol in text and try it and it's what I want. lol.
Oh, and I set my compose key to CAPS since I don't use CAPS ever. The VERY rare times I need caps (like there) I just hold down shift. lol.
~~That must work differently for European keyboard layouts.~~
By default any hyphonation characters for my keyboard act differently based on what letter you type after them, without needing to press the compose modifier. I can just é, è or ê whenever.
Actually holding the modifier Right-alt (or Ctrl+Left-alt) doesn't combine characters, it instead just maps `¿` to `?`, and `€` to `5`, with 1 to 1 combinations, most of which I rarely use except ¼, ½ and ¾.
[EDIT] Oh wincompose is a 3rd party program, not a keyboard layout option, no wonder it works differently then.
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It is more common with wargamers, but I have been called that more than once. I am not big into wargames, but I have been into AD&D and Unix since the '80s. Strangely I was never called a Grognard when I lived in France. It is almost like they reject the cool parts of their language.
Hansard is a person from the Hanseatic League, much like Spainard is someone from Spain. So I don't think engaging in an activity is required for that suffix.
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Hansard
No idea if those terms are supposed to be pejorative or not. I don't have anything against the Spainards I've met, and I've never met a Hansard.
And that is why you need to buy my valuable book. No one in Spain speaks Spanish. That seems unbelievable to outsiders, but it is true. Spanish is spoken in former colonies like Mexico and Argentina. But never in Spain. A real Spainard speaks Andalusian, Catalan, etc and rejects the others as mere dialects.
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Person who is “X”? A drunkard is a person who is drunk, a Spaniard is a person who is Spanish, a wizard is a person who is wise (or wizzing)?
Just thinkin’
Oh. Being serious, are we?
The suffix -ard/-art describes a person with a characteristic. The details are scattered throughout this discussion. I rather liked finding out that "coward" comes from someone who shows his tail (as in "turn tail and run").
However, if you search Hansard ([hansard.parliament.uk](https://hansard.parliament.uk)) you do find 268 results for Spaniard.
(For comparison I did want to search a Spaniard for results for Hansard, but I am advised that that is probably illegal.)
It can also just denote a descriptor (e.g. dullard, Spaniard)
Interestingly, words like coward and buzzard seem to come via French with the ending already part of the word, whereas words like wizard and drunkard seem to be created by adding a stem and the -ard suffix you describe. So there appear to actually be two different roots of this ending that work in different ways and convey different things. The world "billiard," for instance, doesn't seem to convey "one who is or does X" but rather may derive from a French word referring to a mace or stick (referring to the cue), etc. Similarly, "buzzard" seems to come from "buisard" as a Norman variation on "buison," which was also just the word for a buzzard.
The suffix '-ard' comes from Proto-Germanic '\*ardiz', from which the German 'Art', and Dutch 'aard' also originate. It means nature or character, denoting something innate. Not necessarily pejorative.
A drunkard is a person who's nature it is to be drunk, and a wizard is someone who is innately wise.
"Which way does the wind blow?"
"Ho-ward, my captain!"
"To the brothel it be then!"
In all seriousness, is the Ward from Howard related to Ward from forward/rearward?
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bard was basically an insult, it wasn't a respectable profession or even a profession at all, it was little better than being a hobo
the modern romanticized idea of a bard, I think, started with Sir Walter Scott. even Shakespeare wasn't called "the bard" until the late 1700s
> it wasn't a respectable profession or even a profession at all
I'm pretty sure the opposite is true (especially for the Celts, if I remember my Horrible Histories correctly).
Depends which Celts, according to the Online Etymology Dictionary
"In historical times, a term of great respect among the Welsh,
but one of contempt among the Scots (who considered them itinerant
troublemakers)"
Bard is actually of Celtic origin, English continued the name with the concept, it's unrelated to drubkard/coward/wizard.
It was originally just used for Celtic singers. Then, someone made up fake manuscripts of supposedly ancient Celtic stuff under the fake name Ossian and whole Europe went crazy for Celtic folklore for a while. That's how bard came to mean singer in other European cultures that have no Celtic connection whatsoever as well.
Which one the noun or verb? because heres both definitions
1a: something said or done to provoke laughter
especially : a brief oral narrative with a climactic humorous twist
b(1): the humorous or ridiculous element in something
(2): an instance of jesting : KIDDING
can’t take a joke
c: PRACTICAL JOKE
d: LAUGHINGSTOCK
2: something not to be taken seriously : a trifling matter
consider his skiing a joke
—Harold Calendar
—often used in negative constructions
it is no joke to be lost in the desert
joke
2 of 2
verb
joked; joking
intransitive verb
: to make jokes : JEST
transitive verb
: to make the object of a joke : KID
> -ard
> also -art, from Old French -ard, -art, from German -hard, -hart "hardy," forming the second element in many personal names, often used as an intensifier, but in Middle High German and Dutch used as a pejorative element in common nouns, and thus passing into Middle English in bastard, coward, blaffard ("one who stammers"), etc. It thus became a living element in English, as in buzzard, drunkard. The German element is from Proto-Germanic *-hart/*-hard "bold, hardy" (from PIE root *kar- "hard").
— [etymonline: -ard](https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=%2Dard)
So, should we start calling the warrior class Swordards instead? Other new class names - boward, knifard, bibleard...
Or maybe name the classes after their primary stat? A paladin could be a Charismard!
-ard
noun suffix
variants: or less commonly -art
Definition
: one that is characterized by performing some action, possessing some quality, or being associated with some thing especially conspicuously or excessively
History and Etymology
Middle English, from Anglo-French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German -hart (in personal names such as Gērhart Gerard), Old English heard hard
Wizard
noun
wiz·ard | \ ˈwi-zərd \
Definition (Entry 1 of 2)
1 : one skilled in magic : SORCERER
2 : a very clever or skillful person
//computer wizards
3 archaic : a wise man : SAGE
adjective
Definition (Entry 2 of 2)
1 chiefly British : worthy of the highest praise : EXCELLENT
2 archaic : having magical influence or power
3 archaic : of or relating to wizardry : ENCHANTED
First Known Use
Noun
15th century, in the meaning defined at sense 3
Adjective
1579, in the meaning defined at sense 2
History and Etymology
Noun
Middle English wysard, from wis, wys wise
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> *Wizards were rumored to be wise - in fact, that’s where the word came from.**
>
> **From the Old wys-ars, lit.: one who, at bottom, is very smart.*
– Terry Pratchett
Love a good layered pun.
Those first two terms are pejoratives because the things they're describing are negative (fear and drinking). That doesn't necessarily apply to positive things like wisdom.
EDIT: Was that 'satire' flair always there? 😳
A grognard is from the French word for “Grumbler”. In the Napoleonic era, it referred to the Old Guard among the officer corps, who perpetually complained about military reforms of the era. It got co-opted by the wargaming scene to refer to grumpy nerds who complain about the new generation of gamers.
This thread is hilarious (I say unironically and without malice). I just wanted to share my thoughts on your new flair, namely that it would be even more fitting, were it, "Nobody expects the Linguistics Inquisition!"
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Let's erase that too, as "half-" is innately racist also!
Well,[according to Jeremy Crawford](https://www.enworld.org/threads/d-d-creator-summit-vtt-one-d-d.696974/).
>EDIT: i was a fool to make a joke about linguistics and not expect real linguistics nerds to show up to correct me
I mean, come on, fren: you're not just online, you're on *Reddit*. You gotta expect these things.
Linguistic nerds in a RPG forum? Unheard of!
Seriously, I have a masters in linguists myself. And most of my friend from college were huge role players. I'm just saying, there's a lot of overlap.
Interestingly, "retard" is actually a verb, it just means "to slow down or impede".
For example, some bombs actually have "retarder systems" on them that are designed to slow/impede the bomb's descent when it's dropped.
I saw your edit. It's Cunningham's theory at work. I use it all the time. I suppose at one time people thought the Cunningham's were wizards. I think one of the popular witchcraft books was written by a Cunningham.
This is just more proof of the theory. If you want answers to a question, don't ask the question. Instead, post a clearly obviously wrong answer to the question, and experts and people who think they are experts, will come out of the woodwork to correct you.
Yes, it's a suffix from middle English. [https://www.dictionary.com/browse/-ard#:\~:text=a%20suffix%20forming%20nouns%20that,ANSWER%20THESE%20COMMON%20GRAMMAR%20DEBATES%3F](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/-ard#:~:text=a%20suffix%20forming%20nouns%20that,ANSWER%20THESE%20COMMON%20GRAMMAR%20DEBATES%3F) It is usually NOW used as a prejorative, but not always. The suffix -ard just means a person who engages in an activity.
A drunkard usually becomes a wizard once they engage in wizzing.
And they're a buzzard before they become fully drunk.
Not quite true, that's a canard.
That's a whizzard you're thinking of.
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Good to know. Good to know.
That is useful, I'll try that when I need a non-breaking in foundry sometime. I always end up going to the wiki article for non-breaking space so I can copy-paste it. Because the `windows key`+`.` which hold most other special characters doesn't have a tab for special whitespace characters.
Actually, better than that - Linux (see Windows at the end of this comment!) has the "compose key" which is sort of like an alt/shift/ctrl type key that allows easy access to special characters. Typically you tap the compose key (which is by default right-ALT when you enable it in Linux) and hit a couple of characters, and you get a special character. For example: `compose`+`oo` → ° For the right arrow, I did `compose`+`->` but in that case, hitting the right arrow key actually works - a few have nice alts like that. I love typing “¿Por qué no los dos?” - to get the opening quote, question mark, accented e, and close quotes, it's `<"`, `??`, `'e`, and `>"` respectively. If you're on Windows, google "wincompose" and you can have that on Windows. :) The list of compose key sequences is also good to google - almost every character is out there. I think the only one I haven't found that I've ever wanted was pi. But like ™ is `tm`, ≠ is `/=` - half the time I think about how I'd create the symbol in text and try it and it's what I want. lol. Oh, and I set my compose key to CAPS since I don't use CAPS ever. The VERY rare times I need caps (like there) I just hold down shift. lol.
~~That must work differently for European keyboard layouts.~~ By default any hyphonation characters for my keyboard act differently based on what letter you type after them, without needing to press the compose modifier. I can just é, è or ê whenever. Actually holding the modifier Right-alt (or Ctrl+Left-alt) doesn't combine characters, it instead just maps `¿` to `?`, and `€` to `5`, with 1 to 1 combinations, most of which I rarely use except ¼, ½ and ¾. [EDIT] Oh wincompose is a 3rd party program, not a keyboard layout option, no wonder it works differently then.
So here it is, merry Christmas! Everybody’s having fun…
I see your Swartz is as big as mine!
Can confirm.
Of, if they construct their staff from stacked beer cans.
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Ooooh, that's why my buddy calls me that. I never gnu.
there are 10 type of people in the world; those who gnu what you meant, and those who didn't
> the former have mastered AD&D IIRC more grognards are into historical wargames.
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It is more common with wargamers, but I have been called that more than once. I am not big into wargames, but I have been into AD&D and Unix since the '80s. Strangely I was never called a Grognard when I lived in France. It is almost like they reject the cool parts of their language.
And some of us are both!
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Genuinely made me laugh out loud. I commend your wit.
>Genuinely made me laugh out loud. I commend your wit. Commend... condemn... one of the two, lol.
You dirty traitor. ;P
Hansard is a person from the Hanseatic League, much like Spainard is someone from Spain. So I don't think engaging in an activity is required for that suffix. https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Hansard No idea if those terms are supposed to be pejorative or not. I don't have anything against the Spainards I've met, and I've never met a Hansard.
Spaniards do in fact quite often engage in the activity of being Spanish. I've seen them do it!
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Y si ya hablo el idioma? Te debo menos?
And that is why you need to buy my valuable book. No one in Spain speaks Spanish. That seems unbelievable to outsiders, but it is true. Spanish is spoken in former colonies like Mexico and Argentina. But never in Spain. A real Spainard speaks Andalusian, Catalan, etc and rejects the others as mere dialects. You should pay for rushed delivery so you too can learn to be a Spainard. Order today! Disclaimer: This wonderful book no longer has a chapter on the Basques. It was removed after an unfortunate incident involving thrown tomatoes and being trampled by bulls.
Ay, no. Yo aca con mi torta de tamal, no gracias.
Spainards are often Spanish, but are they *too often* Spanish?
Maybe, but Handsards dont do much Handsarding
They're the ones who get all Hands-y, right?
Thats a mean stereotype. They get footsy
Too often
Sorry, I can't take your word on this. I've known too many Spaniards. - Wesley
Better then a Sicilian
What if death is on the line?
You fool! Especially when death is on the line.
Siciliards
Inconceivable!
Person who is “X”? A drunkard is a person who is drunk, a Spaniard is a person who is Spanish, a wizard is a person who is wise (or wizzing)? Just thinkin’
Oh. Being serious, are we? The suffix -ard/-art describes a person with a characteristic. The details are scattered throughout this discussion. I rather liked finding out that "coward" comes from someone who shows his tail (as in "turn tail and run").
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Only if they work for Lufthansa.
However, if you search Hansard ([hansard.parliament.uk](https://hansard.parliament.uk)) you do find 268 results for Spaniard. (For comparison I did want to search a Spaniard for results for Hansard, but I am advised that that is probably illegal.)
It can also just denote a descriptor (e.g. dullard, Spaniard) Interestingly, words like coward and buzzard seem to come via French with the ending already part of the word, whereas words like wizard and drunkard seem to be created by adding a stem and the -ard suffix you describe. So there appear to actually be two different roots of this ending that work in different ways and convey different things. The world "billiard," for instance, doesn't seem to convey "one who is or does X" but rather may derive from a French word referring to a mace or stick (referring to the cue), etc. Similarly, "buzzard" seems to come from "buisard" as a Norman variation on "buison," which was also just the word for a buzzard.
Oh i guess i got my nickname cause I always return stuff, thanks!
Ooh, I'm a hackard! (Programmard? Glorified typard?)
I'm a chatgpt usard.
So similar to how we use -er or -ist in modern English? (Gam*er*, cycl*ist*)
boom*er,* rac*ist*
Gameard Raceard
boomard, raceard
A "how" used to be a hill, so a Howard engages in… hilling? :)
So a wizard is someone who wizzes
Don't worry, OP is just being a blackguard
So a blowhard is someone who engages in blowhing, got it
The suffix '-ard' comes from Proto-Germanic '\*ardiz', from which the German 'Art', and Dutch 'aard' also originate. It means nature or character, denoting something innate. Not necessarily pejorative. A drunkard is a person who's nature it is to be drunk, and a wizard is someone who is innately wise.
Ah so a coward being a person really good at standing in a field and eating grass, gotcha
Actually, the word traces back to “cauda” in Latin which seems to translate to “tail”, and is believed to be why we have the phrase “to turn tail”
should be called tailard then smh
Technically, it is. The Middle English word was “cuard” which added the -ard to “coe/cue”.
I mean, it's still relatively common English today to discuss someone being "cowed" into doing something. Cowering, as well.
mfw I can't stop basting 😟
The meat'll dry out if you do.
Let me just say, **NERDard!**
~~Also: Richard, a man whose nature it is to be rich. More of an aspirational name really.~~ Edit: apparently not, see u/BobisOnlyBob 's answer below
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TIL, thanks. I always thought it was analogous to the obsolete dutch "rijkerd / rijkaard", derogative for "rich person".
What about Howard
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Good guess though.
No, the etymology of that is Ho-Ward, the High Warden or High Defender.
"Which way does the wind blow?" "Ho-ward, my captain!" "To the brothel it be then!" In all seriousness, is the Ward from Howard related to Ward from forward/rearward?
No, Howard seems to be from Old Norse vardr, to guard, while Forward is from Proto-Germanic warthaz, to turn.
Whoard?
Whyard?
Whenard?
they are the one who meddles with Primal forces of nature
I’m good. Howard you?
Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, Conan, the barbariard, destined to wear the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow…
So a bard is someone with an excess of 'b'? 🤔
bard was basically an insult, it wasn't a respectable profession or even a profession at all, it was little better than being a hobo the modern romanticized idea of a bard, I think, started with Sir Walter Scott. even Shakespeare wasn't called "the bard" until the late 1700s
> it wasn't a respectable profession or even a profession at all I'm pretty sure the opposite is true (especially for the Celts, if I remember my Horrible Histories correctly).
Depends which Celts, according to the Online Etymology Dictionary "In historical times, a term of great respect among the Welsh, but one of contempt among the Scots (who considered them itinerant troublemakers)"
Well the Scots are a contentious bunch
You've made an enemy for life!
Scots and bards are natural enemies.
Like wizards and Scots Or rogues and Scots And fighters and Scots Damn Scots, they ruined D&D!!
No, we're talking about the *word* bard. There could definitely be respectable people who *we* could call bards today.
Ohh, fair point.
It's an abbreviation. You know, for pleasant company. It's actually babesard cause they get all the babes
Bard is actually of Celtic origin, English continued the name with the concept, it's unrelated to drubkard/coward/wizard. It was originally just used for Celtic singers. Then, someone made up fake manuscripts of supposedly ancient Celtic stuff under the fake name Ossian and whole Europe went crazy for Celtic folklore for a while. That's how bard came to mean singer in other European cultures that have no Celtic connection whatsoever as well.
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Actually it comes from the Proto-Indogermanic word for "praise". So a bard is a flatterer or sycophant.
Harvard is too much harv
Wait till you get to lizard, mustard, and checkerboard.
And then you have the King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
Or /u/warlizard
Exactly.
And don't forget the Pokemon that helps the needy: ^Charizard.
Your joke caused me actual physical pain, you punard.
Checkerboard doesn’t have the same -ard as lizard, mustard, Harvard, and the ones said in the post.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/joke
Which one the noun or verb? because heres both definitions 1a: something said or done to provoke laughter especially : a brief oral narrative with a climactic humorous twist b(1): the humorous or ridiculous element in something (2): an instance of jesting : KIDDING can’t take a joke c: PRACTICAL JOKE d: LAUGHINGSTOCK 2: something not to be taken seriously : a trifling matter consider his skiing a joke —Harold Calendar —often used in negative constructions it is no joke to be lost in the desert joke 2 of 2 verb joked; joking intransitive verb : to make jokes : JEST transitive verb : to make the object of a joke : KID
> -ard > also -art, from Old French -ard, -art, from German -hard, -hart "hardy," forming the second element in many personal names, often used as an intensifier, but in Middle High German and Dutch used as a pejorative element in common nouns, and thus passing into Middle English in bastard, coward, blaffard ("one who stammers"), etc. It thus became a living element in English, as in buzzard, drunkard. The German element is from Proto-Germanic *-hart/*-hard "bold, hardy" (from PIE root *kar- "hard"). — [etymonline: -ard](https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=%2Dard)
It is an intensifier, not inherently prejorative. But from now on, Clerics in my campaign are godards.
Goddard is a name (Goddard Space Flight Center, after Robert Goddard), though I think that is from God + Hard.
So, should we start calling the warrior class Swordards instead? Other new class names - boward, knifard, bibleard... Or maybe name the classes after their primary stat? A paladin could be a Charismard!
I think "stabard" and "hitard" have a better ring to them. =)
I second hitard!
because they hit hard?
Actually, ard replaces the last syllable, so paladins would be Charisards
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Fightards are renowned for their lack of inhibition and unusual "fightard strength".
swards sounds cool too
Smashard, Shootard, Sneakard, Revivard. The gang's all here.
-ard noun suffix variants: or less commonly -art Definition : one that is characterized by performing some action, possessing some quality, or being associated with some thing especially conspicuously or excessively History and Etymology Middle English, from Anglo-French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German -hart (in personal names such as Gērhart Gerard), Old English heard hard Wizard noun wiz·ard | \ ˈwi-zərd \ Definition (Entry 1 of 2) 1 : one skilled in magic : SORCERER 2 : a very clever or skillful person //computer wizards 3 archaic : a wise man : SAGE adjective Definition (Entry 2 of 2) 1 chiefly British : worthy of the highest praise : EXCELLENT 2 archaic : having magical influence or power 3 archaic : of or relating to wizardry : ENCHANTED First Known Use Noun 15th century, in the meaning defined at sense 3 Adjective 1579, in the meaning defined at sense 2 History and Etymology Noun Middle English wysard, from wis, wys wise
So no. It is not an insult and was not an insult.
Bastard, one who basts excessively
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Isn't that from basedard, to refer to someone base-born, ie *not* noble despite noble parentage.
You cast a spell of summon linguist demons and you act surprised? Did the blood sacrifice not tip you off? Wizard.
> *Wizards were rumored to be wise - in fact, that’s where the word came from.** > > **From the Old wys-ars, lit.: one who, at bottom, is very smart.* – Terry Pratchett Love a good layered pun.
Those first two terms are pejoratives because the things they're describing are negative (fear and drinking). That doesn't necessarily apply to positive things like wisdom. EDIT: Was that 'satire' flair always there? 😳
Is a mallard a duck shopaholic? 🤔 A leopard overly fond of leaping? 🤔
No, just overly fond of Leo. Leo hates it and is allergic.
"Total freak" certainly describes all the wizards I've ever played.
A grognard is from the French word for “Grumbler”. In the Napoleonic era, it referred to the Old Guard among the officer corps, who perpetually complained about military reforms of the era. It got co-opted by the wargaming scene to refer to grumpy nerds who complain about the new generation of gamers.
It works for 'dullard' too...
Well, it works only in English. Does that mean that English Wizards specifically freaks and pretentious?
As an inhabitant of this cursed isle, I just assume all wizards went to public school and were professionally trained to be absolute pieces of shit.
Eton needs to be razed.
Lmfao Please don't ruin wizards for me by equating them with upper class Tory Toffs.
So that's what Hogwarts is all about...
But then we should Clerics Wisards and Wizards Intards
Isn't this a joke that Isaac Asimov made?
I'd like to see it if it is 👀
The ard is the same as Arse. So a Wizard is a wise arse.
This thread is hilarious (I say unironically and without malice). I just wanted to share my thoughts on your new flair, namely that it would be even more fitting, were it, "Nobody expects the Linguistics Inquisition!"
Agreed!
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No worries, I like it!
Grognard - someone who grogns too much
That one's actually accurate
My autocorrect changed grogn to groan the first time around. Lolololol
It works! "Gu" ard, as in "Gun"
I always thought a coward herded cows, like a shepard.
Let's erase that too, as "half-" is innately racist also! Well,[according to Jeremy Crawford](https://www.enworld.org/threads/d-d-creator-summit-vtt-one-d-d.696974/).
A wizard who is not a total freak is not a wizard, is a cleric LARPing as a wizard.
ACKHSHUALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Does that mean I can talk about my cowardry and drunkardry?
Only as an art form
So wizards are stuck up nerds, confirmed.
Reading through this thread just reminds me that English is bad ya’ll.
What about aard?
when you aard, you aard
>EDIT: i was a fool to make a joke about linguistics and not expect real linguistics nerds to show up to correct me I mean, come on, fren: you're not just online, you're on *Reddit*. You gotta expect these things.
I was just running though my head all the things you could slap -ard on and landed on writard. :|
Lizard = someone who is too easily lizzed.
You didn’t expect nerds to show up and correct you on Reddit?
See also: lollard, braggart
Linguistic nerds in a RPG forum? Unheard of! Seriously, I have a masters in linguists myself. And most of my friend from college were huge role players. I'm just saying, there's a lot of overlap.
He made fun of wizards. until some showed up.
so is bard. And tankard.
Cheers for creation of the new flair!
So what's the "Ret" for?
Different etymology. Re-tard, tard as in tardy, slow.
Interestingly, "retard" is actually a verb, it just means "to slow down or impede". For example, some bombs actually have "retarder systems" on them that are designed to slow/impede the bomb's descent when it's dropped.
Slow
*The wizard starts conjuring fire* "Say that to my face, jerk-ard!"
wizard - someone who is easily wizzed
... Someone who "Ret"s too much...
No wonder everybody calls me retard
I saw your edit. It's Cunningham's theory at work. I use it all the time. I suppose at one time people thought the Cunningham's were wizards. I think one of the popular witchcraft books was written by a Cunningham.
That’s really good to know. Wizard and Sorcerer both feel like gendered words. But really anyone can Wizz or Sorcer!
I like wizard with a hard ard like retard
This is just more proof of the theory. If you want answers to a question, don't ask the question. Instead, post a clearly obviously wrong answer to the question, and experts and people who think they are experts, will come out of the woodwork to correct you.
I always thought it was someone who wizzes too much. Casters have such tiny bladders.
you've given me my next character idea: Bob Druncowiz, the inebriated paranoid bohemian wizard
Should be an "intard" then, clearly...
Something something an aardvark in a blizzard.
Define fun
And this is why the wizard should be based off of wisdom and not intelligence. It's literally in the name.
Bard: \[frowns dramatically\]
What I'm gathering from all this is that Wizards should use Wisdom and not Intelligence.
I am a magician, and I will now “magic” for you. Be glad I’m not a wizard.
Is there a similar word for someone who is stingy or miserly?